I just talked to a lawyer and I am depressed. He literally told me to get the vaccine. I asked him the crime, if it was , to fake a vax card under duress ? Crickets. “ It’s probably a crime. “. He told me there was an FDA approved vaccine, we were almost arguing for a half hour.
We all need to remember that our religious exemptions are not us requesting permission but instead it is us informing our employers that we will not be participating in this Vaxx shit.
Exemptions just kick the can down the road. They may accept it today, but they'll change the rules later and treat you as a second citizen anyways. Sad to say, but that's the truth.
When the Government can decide what is and isn't male/female they can easily decide what is and isn't a "religion."
Just saying, if your company is really like that, you may want to consider selling your labor to a different company, quit supporting the bad behavior and find one more based.
No point the company who is punishing you should flourish. Right now in rural America, you can make $32/hr starting. Just saying.
Actually, yes, at least those in our private group who have been granted exemptions are now requesting to be exempt from the n95 mask wearing and weekly testing, they are refusing to play along with this bullshit. I don't know anyone who has been exempted from those requirements but since I am permanently remote, I don't have to participate, yet.
Be slow in answering and when you need to, just say no, or say it is against your religion and you are simply invoking your Religious rights that by law there is no inquisition for determining my faith. Think about this for a moment.
If you were unaware that fetal cells were used in testing and you took the product, how does that void your religious beliefs. It doesn't. I never take ibuprofin and tylenol for other reasons. Aspirin is quite a bit older than aborted fetal cell lines, but there are claims it is also fetal cell associated. That's like claiming Henry Ford is responsible for drunken driving or John Moses Browning responsible for armed robberies? It's ridiculous, but indicative of the crazy times we live in.
It's better to avoid the argument completely to not get sucked into a trap.
Yep. Agreed. Verbalize it in the strongest words. "It is an unconditional religious conviction". Or it is a "uncapitulating religious decree and conviction."
Salycin, yes. A naturally occurring substance from Willow bark that has zero side-effects for adults*, mild on the stomach and has been used for centuries for pain relief.
*Not recommended for children up to 16yrs as it may induce Reye's Syndrome.
First of all, that's great advice for such a weird angle to come back at everybody with. Don't be specific, you have a religious exemption and that's that.
Secondly, are fetal cells IN those other medications? Cause that's horrifying. Why would we ever need that in Tylenol?!?! I need to look that up now.
I'm trying to do more natural things to fight inflammation like eating salmon once a week which has natural anti-inflammatory properties and include more things like turmeric, etc. But now, it may be all natural, all the way. LOL
Maybe the fetal cells needs to be left out of the letters and just go with my body is a temple, although then I suppose they'd ask you if you ever ate any junk food. At times, I just can't comprehend what is going on and that we're even having this discussion.
We should not state our reason.
It's personal and against your faith.
Keep it general and broad enough.
For me.
I am going to say because my conscious is telling me.
There are evil and sinster forces behind this whole vaccine push.
There are plenty of stories in the bible that warn about this.
Therefore it hurts your inner soul by going along with this.
Next they will ask if you eat NABISCO products (I Don't) for the same reason. Do you know if it is all of the generics that use the same process also? Thanks for the heads up.
Does a priest have a sincere religious belief? Do they sin? Can they? Can they ask for forgiveness? What if they molested a boy? Does that nullify their priesthood?
How's that compare to taking an advil?
Mine said that I stand under the protection of title 7 of the 1964 civil rights.....and any additional information will be done only in confidential communication with only those necessary. All communication will be forwarded to councel.
I haven't heard shit in a month. Everyone else has.
If forced, answer every question with the law that is protecting you. You do not have to justify a right. Not that it would stop them from terminating you anyways. I'm not an attorney so seek legal advice always.
Ask your employer if he takes HIV meds, viagra, birth control pills, cialis, etc. You have as much right to ask him those questions as he does to ask you what you are taking. Is he a health professional now?
This is crazy. If this goes on much longer then all large companies will go bust with the lawsuits when/if things finally turn around. Don't we need some of them to (you know) make things when all is said and done? Or do we all simply revert to subsistence farming and a taste of cannibalism?
Most employers are rubber stamping religious exemptions because they don't want to lose double percentages of their work force. But if they ask about your medical history like what meds do you or have you taken that's illegal and they can get in trouble for it.
Your lawyer is accurate. Mine is asking people all sorts of shit.
The more questions you answer the more likely you get to a rejection.
You don't even have to say what your religion is.
Religious exemption is not a request, it's a statement of your rights.
That’s exactly what the attorney told me.
In addition it might be wise to counter with something similar to
"..are you asking me questions about my medical history, are you sure you want to do that?..."
"...are you sure you are allowed to ask me that question? I thought prying into a persons medical history was not legal..."
"You aren't my doctor..."
"Um, I'm not comfortable with you asking me about medications or any of my medical history, maybe we should take this to HR..."
Document every encounter where they probe with possible medical questions. Share with lawyer.
Exactly this. They will take what ever you give them, pass it to their legal team and see if they deny you if it will be upheld in court.
The more details you give (that they are not entitled to) the the bigger the chance they find a way to turn you down.
Tbis is especially powerful.in at willemployment states where religion is normally a "protected class".
I don't even think you have to answer anything anyway.
I submitted mine blank, and they said, "Sorry, we can't approve this because you have to explain in more detail."
I just talked to a lawyer and I am depressed. He literally told me to get the vaccine. I asked him the crime, if it was , to fake a vax card under duress ? Crickets. “ It’s probably a crime. “. He told me there was an FDA approved vaccine, we were almost arguing for a half hour.
We all need to remember that our religious exemptions are not us requesting permission but instead it is us informing our employers that we will not be participating in this Vaxx shit.
By all rights, just arguing criminal coercion should be enough.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/25/11.406
Exemptions just kick the can down the road. They may accept it today, but they'll change the rules later and treat you as a second citizen anyways. Sad to say, but that's the truth.
When the Government can decide what is and isn't male/female they can easily decide what is and isn't a "religion."
I agree zero consent is the key.
Just saying, if your company is really like that, you may want to consider selling your labor to a different company, quit supporting the bad behavior and find one more based.
No point the company who is punishing you should flourish. Right now in rural America, you can make $32/hr starting. Just saying.
Not a bad call. Good luck pede! 👍🇺🇸
Actually, yes, at least those in our private group who have been granted exemptions are now requesting to be exempt from the n95 mask wearing and weekly testing, they are refusing to play along with this bullshit. I don't know anyone who has been exempted from those requirements but since I am permanently remote, I don't have to participate, yet.
Just tell them no. Aside from the gayness of playing their "examption game" wtf, put the burden of proof on them to prove you take tylenol.
Right!
Be slow in answering and when you need to, just say no, or say it is against your religion and you are simply invoking your Religious rights that by law there is no inquisition for determining my faith. Think about this for a moment.
If you were unaware that fetal cells were used in testing and you took the product, how does that void your religious beliefs. It doesn't. I never take ibuprofin and tylenol for other reasons. Aspirin is quite a bit older than aborted fetal cell lines, but there are claims it is also fetal cell associated. That's like claiming Henry Ford is responsible for drunken driving or John Moses Browning responsible for armed robberies? It's ridiculous, but indicative of the crazy times we live in.
It's better to avoid the argument completely to not get sucked into a trap.
Yep. Agreed. Verbalize it in the strongest words. "It is an unconditional religious conviction". Or it is a "uncapitulating religious decree and conviction."
Ginger the natural aspirin from a plant.
Salycin, yes. A naturally occurring substance from Willow bark that has zero side-effects for adults*, mild on the stomach and has been used for centuries for pain relief.
*Not recommended for children up to 16yrs as it may induce Reye's Syndrome.
“Not since I became aware of that fact.”
“When did you become aware.”
“In the past. Hard to say.”
First of all, that's great advice for such a weird angle to come back at everybody with. Don't be specific, you have a religious exemption and that's that. Secondly, are fetal cells IN those other medications? Cause that's horrifying. Why would we ever need that in Tylenol?!?! I need to look that up now.
I'm trying to do more natural things to fight inflammation like eating salmon once a week which has natural anti-inflammatory properties and include more things like turmeric, etc. But now, it may be all natural, all the way. LOL
I just paid $100 for a half hour … he told me to get the shot. I’m serious, it’s a sad state of affairs.
Maybe the fetal cells needs to be left out of the letters and just go with my body is a temple, although then I suppose they'd ask you if you ever ate any junk food. At times, I just can't comprehend what is going on and that we're even having this discussion.
I don't recall
Ibuprofen? What is it?
Tylenol? Never heard of it.
Now, back to my Religious exemption...
They are lying. The drugs listed predated the fetal cell line. Please refer to this:
https://creativeminorityreport.com/blog/2021/09/02/not-so-fast-the-very-misleading-article-by-a-priest-on-drugs-and-abortion-testing/
I agree.
We should not state our reason. It's personal and against your faith.
Keep it general and broad enough.
For me.
I am going to say because my conscious is telling me. There are evil and sinster forces behind this whole vaccine push. There are plenty of stories in the bible that warn about this. Therefore it hurts your inner soul by going along with this.
I'm going to share this advice...too many out there boxing themselves into this very corner.
Ugh. And I just posted how encouraged I was that some judges are ruling in favor of the exemptions. This is a war Frens. Fight fight fight.
https://media.communities.win/post/4pr9Rt9M.png
Next they will ask if you eat NABISCO products (I Don't) for the same reason. Do you know if it is all of the generics that use the same process also? Thanks for the heads up.
Here's a great example for religious exemption: https://apologiachurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Medical-Statement.pdf
Tell them no you haven’t taken them. What are they gonna do? Test you for past intake of Tylenol and ibuprofen?
Less is more.
Does a priest have a sincere religious belief? Do they sin? Can they? Can they ask for forgiveness? What if they molested a boy? Does that nullify their priesthood?
How's that compare to taking an advil?
Mine said that I stand under the protection of title 7 of the 1964 civil rights.....and any additional information will be done only in confidential communication with only those necessary. All communication will be forwarded to councel.
I haven't heard shit in a month. Everyone else has.
Mine said the same thing!
If forced, answer every question with the law that is protecting you. You do not have to justify a right. Not that it would stop them from terminating you anyways. I'm not an attorney so seek legal advice always.
Your employer is a faggot power tripping commie. Really thats the only kind of commie there is.
Tell that faggot to pound sand.
Semonyx...
Please pass along this paper
"Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19"
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
Here's an interview: https://www.bitchute.com/video/VA2Fv9cwSP7K/
Just tell them this looks suspiciously like a precursor to the Mark of the Beast.
Ask your employer if he takes HIV meds, viagra, birth control pills, cialis, etc. You have as much right to ask him those questions as he does to ask you what you are taking. Is he a health professional now?
Well today I learned something! Good thing I don't use that shit, either.
This is crazy. If this goes on much longer then all large companies will go bust with the lawsuits when/if things finally turn around. Don't we need some of them to (you know) make things when all is said and done? Or do we all simply revert to subsistence farming and a taste of cannibalism?
Most employers are rubber stamping religious exemptions because they don't want to lose double percentages of their work force. But if they ask about your medical history like what meds do you or have you taken that's illegal and they can get in trouble for it.
i want to sue if they really used fetal cells for ibuprofen and tylenol ... they have never stated that and warned anyone
Who and where so you even apply for a religious exemption?
That's BS. There are lots of things we do, until we learn the truth and then it violates our conscience. You can change your mind whenever you want. Besides, it was not just "an abortion" - it was infanticide that created the HEK293T cells used in Pfizer. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/exclusive-pfizers-nervousness-covid-vaccines-origins-conceals-horror-story/