Firewood, fuel, blankets, warm clothing. I’m just paranoid that they’re going to take out the electricity which happened a few years ago and we had little heat, no water, no light. You could see your breath in the house. It was fricken cold & depressing. I know they’d love to do that again.
30mls of methanol will boil 2 cups of water with little regard for surrounding temps and an alcohol stove can be made from a single soda can. You can burn any alcohol, isopropyl works, but is dirty... on the other hand 'HEET' antifreeze from your automotive section is literally just methanol, burns clean, is cheap, is perfect. Stock up before the normies realize and clean it out. Much more cost effective and just as capable as any camping stove setup you might over pay on.
Alternatively a tea light can heat 2-3 cans of soup though you need to be patient, like, hours patient, and that presumes a normal 'room temp'. But it absolutely works.
A $200 generator from walmart can give you 1000w continuous watts - enough to run an electric toaster oven to bake in using fuel you stockpiled, or whatever gas you syphon from your car's tank after things go south.
LED lights are very low power consumers and you can get string lighting to plug into the generator to keep as much of the house minimally lit as you're happy buying and storing. Think christmas but the walls of the house is the tree.
We have a generator but who's to say they won't shut down the gas pipeline. If the electricity goes down, gas pumps won't work or they'll work on a generator until the fuel runs out. Have a feeling though that with the chaos, stores and stations would stay closed. Who wants to be in the middle of looting?
I bought a solar generator, no need to worry about gas. But, it wasn't cheap. I also bought a few other solar items. Check out the survival sites (4Patriots, My Patriots Supply, etc.)
None can say. So it's worth keeping a fuel can or two topped off / in rotation.
Gas generators aren't for long term electricity production though, only to get you through emergency outages with daylight on the other end. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
If you want electricity without relying on the grid you need solar and a major battery pack setup so you have the juice to make it through the night even if the previous days was cloudy or rainy. And that's many many many thousands of an investment so honestly just plan for the temporary. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
LOL, we'll go quad fuel, solar, natural gas, gasoline, and propane. To get 10,000 watts using solar would mean 5 units and cost between 11,000 -12,000 dollars.
Think I'll start reading the nitty gritty on solar units and get my husband to help me build one. There are tons of links. Here's the first site I found in case anyone else is interested in a DIY unit. It's a 3000 watt unit, not a 2000 and would cost 1/2 of an off the shelf solar generator.
Good to know about the transformers. Will ask my husband about a propane tank. We live in a hurricane prone area and have both a gasoline powered generator and one powered by natural gas.
Another point is to congregate in an interior room, which can be heated (not super hot) with just a candle. I have an interior bathroom that I go to when the heat goes out (not often). I bring a bunch of bedding, candles, etc., into the room and go out only when I need to. The bigger the room, the more "fuel" needed to heat it.
I don't need to have done it to do math. I can get 2 cups of water to boil out at cold as fuck in the morning off 30mls with more to spare, and once at boil I only need 10 minutes for pasta. Another 15 mls ought to do that.
Yet for some reason you're skeptical that a stove capable of boiling water ... can maintain water at boiling(?) I'm just confused.
I'll add to that by saying you may want to focus on filling the pantry with things that are shipped in from other nations (or from California, which is basically the same thing).
For example, Rice, Corn, Potatoes and Wheat will always be here. Those things are grown domestically, we had a good harvest this year and there is abundance for all Americans.
The U.S. is the leading soybean producer and exporter in the world and we fully produce our own vegetable oils.
The U.S. is one of the world’s largest producers of sugar and other sweeteners from sugarcane, sugarbeets and high fructose corn syrup.
The U.S. is a top producer of pulses (beans, peas, legumes, and peanuts) and we produce a huge variety of vegetables.
The U.S. is a top producer of tree nuts like almonds, pecans, walnuts, hazelnuts, and pistachios.
What you MAY consider, in filling that pantry, is that the U.S. does NOT produce Coffee or Cocoa. That is imported. If imports are cut off, then coffee and chocolate becomes an issue. :>( 50 percent of U.S. agricultural imports are horticultural products: fruits, foreign vegetables, tree nuts, wine, essential oils, and hops, but also include sugar, cocoa, coffee, natural rubber, etc... .
I wouldn't worry too much about stocking things that are in abundance, especially things grown in the South or Midwest. I would stock up more on those things that are imported from 10,000 miles away and have to go through port facilities.
I think you make good points. I can't say I know everything that is domestic or outsourced and I'm just waking up, but what you wrote makes me wonder how much should we worry about foreign goods, my opinion coffee and chocolate are not a big deal.
On the other hand, many reports local farmers are being payed to destroy their own goods for government subsidies.
Perishables are as well. Wheat ships easily, fruits not so much. Get a dehydrator and go to town, vit c from a pill works, but something about getting it from a dried plum hits all the right neuro transmitters.
I always cringe a bit when people suggest stocking up on coffee and cocoa to prepare for the end of the world. Not because these items won’t have trading value, but precisely because they will.
Reminds me of the great toilet paper pandemic of 2020
A water distiller is the gift that keeps on giving; clean drinking water without: toxic fluoride to calcify your seat of the soul pineal gland, hormones to feminize and reduce sperm counts, parasites to fuel big pharma, etc.
Berkey Filters have worked well for my family. Removed 99.9% of iron when we were having really bad hard water issues at our old house, and at the house we lived in before that one we had city water and who knows what's in that so we filtered it too. He don't have a place to set it up at our current home otherwise we would. But small city municipal water doesn't have all the bad stuff big city water does. Last time a water guy was here he tested the filter just to see and said that it reduces nearly every contaminant to undetectable levels (except trace minerals).
I couldn't find a made in USA one under $500 so I bought a stainless Xhina one for $80. You also need citric acid to keep cleaning after each use, but cost at 15c /kWh everything still costs half of buying distilled gallons for 88c. Also being reliant on grid water only seems like a bad plan.
Pur water filters found at thrifts @ 10 cents on the dollar, stocked up enough to last a couple years (each filter lasts 90 to 100 days) Filtered water in 89 ounce bottles and 1 gallon bottles.. stored away from sunlight.
If you have little ones, you'll still want get some type of Christmas present. Think about how hard our ancestors worked to make sure their kids had some semblance of normalcy during hard times.
I have a feeling everyone will need a bit of a morale boost by Christmas. There is nothing happier than seeing little ones open presents.
Give dirt and seeds as gifts.
Give distilled or purified spring water.
Give a blanket, throw, or my pillow.
Enclose a red pill with it, or put a red pill on the bow.
Buy more ammo. Buy another guy. Buy canned foods and provisions. By all means be prepared.
But don't skip Christmas. And don't skimp on Christmas. Spend time with your family, spend money on them and enjoy a happy traditional Christmas. The elite want to destroy the nuclear family, and preventing us from celebrating traditional holidays with those that we love is one of their goals.
I’m not buying the cheap plastic, made in Chyna decor or gifts but check out local shops, handmade stuff and support your local artisans if you can. It really bugs the shizz out of me that the big box stores have their Xmas decor out already and it isn’t even Halloween. Fukkin Mickey Mouse... yeah we will see a lot of that this year for their anniversary. Wish I could shoot those inflatables lol. This neighbor has a Halloween Mickey right by the edge of his property and it has a death wish.
I like buying books for people for Xmas. Boring, I know but I figure out what hobby or interest they have and get them something I think they might enjoy. Plus a gift card or whatever. But someone mentioned My Pillows. Excellent idea.
I worry the thing to get will be medicines. I dont take any but my dog takes anti-seizure meds and I'm pretty sure it comes from India likes most meds. So I would add some Doxycycline to the list as well as maybe your everyday vitamins/minerals etc
Firewood, fuel, blankets, warm clothing. I’m just paranoid that they’re going to take out the electricity which happened a few years ago and we had little heat, no water, no light. You could see your breath in the house. It was fricken cold & depressing. I know they’d love to do that again.
30mls of methanol will boil 2 cups of water with little regard for surrounding temps and an alcohol stove can be made from a single soda can. You can burn any alcohol, isopropyl works, but is dirty... on the other hand 'HEET' antifreeze from your automotive section is literally just methanol, burns clean, is cheap, is perfect. Stock up before the normies realize and clean it out. Much more cost effective and just as capable as any camping stove setup you might over pay on.
Alternatively a tea light can heat 2-3 cans of soup though you need to be patient, like, hours patient, and that presumes a normal 'room temp'. But it absolutely works.
A $200 generator from walmart can give you 1000w continuous watts - enough to run an electric toaster oven to bake in using fuel you stockpiled, or whatever gas you syphon from your car's tank after things go south.
LED lights are very low power consumers and you can get string lighting to plug into the generator to keep as much of the house minimally lit as you're happy buying and storing. Think christmas but the walls of the house is the tree.
We have a generator but who's to say they won't shut down the gas pipeline. If the electricity goes down, gas pumps won't work or they'll work on a generator until the fuel runs out. Have a feeling though that with the chaos, stores and stations would stay closed. Who wants to be in the middle of looting?
I bought a solar generator, no need to worry about gas. But, it wasn't cheap. I also bought a few other solar items. Check out the survival sites (4Patriots, My Patriots Supply, etc.)
Thanks, off to those sites right now!
None can say. So it's worth keeping a fuel can or two topped off / in rotation.
Gas generators aren't for long term electricity production though, only to get you through emergency outages with daylight on the other end. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
If you want electricity without relying on the grid you need solar and a major battery pack setup so you have the juice to make it through the night even if the previous days was cloudy or rainy. And that's many many many thousands of an investment so honestly just plan for the temporary. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
LOL, we'll go quad fuel, solar, natural gas, gasoline, and propane. To get 10,000 watts using solar would mean 5 units and cost between 11,000 -12,000 dollars.
Think I'll start reading the nitty gritty on solar units and get my husband to help me build one. There are tons of links. Here's the first site I found in case anyone else is interested in a DIY unit. It's a 3000 watt unit, not a 2000 and would cost 1/2 of an off the shelf solar generator.
https://www.modernsurvivalists.com/how-to-build-a-2000-watt-solar-generator-part-1/
Good to know about the transformers. Will ask my husband about a propane tank. We live in a hurricane prone area and have both a gasoline powered generator and one powered by natural gas.
You can bet that if "they" take down the electrical grid, they'll also take down natural gas pipelines as well.
What do you mean “Heat” antifreeze?
Had no idea this was even an option so explain as if I am dumb, lol.
Sorry, HEET, my brain just autocorrected me
It's just methanol, the perfect clean burning alcohol fuel for small alcohol stoves (won't leave soot on your cooking gear, or create a smell)
Yellow bottle HEET only not red bottle unless you like soot.
Yes, big point.
I often forget that other bottle exists. Yellow bottle only.
That’s gas tank antifreeze the bottle is branded “heet”
Another point is to congregate in an interior room, which can be heated (not super hot) with just a candle. I have an interior bathroom that I go to when the heat goes out (not often). I bring a bunch of bedding, candles, etc., into the room and go out only when I need to. The bigger the room, the more "fuel" needed to heat it.
Methanol does not have the same BTU as propane which means less you will burn more of it to do the same amount of work -
https://afdc.energy.gov/files/u/publication/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf
Aside, at that price those are 2-stroke machines. You'll need to mix oil into the gas, plan accordingly.
HEET is cheaper and you'll heat more with it per dollar than you will with propane. I won't do the math, but you can feel free to.
Lol, get back to me when you can boil a pasta pot with a can stove.
Uh, you absolutely can.
My soda can alcohol stove can boil pasta no problem. I bet 45mls would do it easy.
You've either done it or not. "I bet" says you've not.
I don't need to have done it to do math. I can get 2 cups of water to boil out at cold as fuck in the morning off 30mls with more to spare, and once at boil I only need 10 minutes for pasta. Another 15 mls ought to do that.
Yet for some reason you're skeptical that a stove capable of boiling water ... can maintain water at boiling(?) I'm just confused.
I'll add to that by saying you may want to focus on filling the pantry with things that are shipped in from other nations (or from California, which is basically the same thing).
For example, Rice, Corn, Potatoes and Wheat will always be here. Those things are grown domestically, we had a good harvest this year and there is abundance for all Americans.
The U.S. is the leading soybean producer and exporter in the world and we fully produce our own vegetable oils.
The U.S. is one of the world’s largest producers of sugar and other sweeteners from sugarcane, sugarbeets and high fructose corn syrup.
The U.S. is a top producer of pulses (beans, peas, legumes, and peanuts) and we produce a huge variety of vegetables.
The U.S. is a top producer of tree nuts like almonds, pecans, walnuts, hazelnuts, and pistachios.
What you MAY consider, in filling that pantry, is that the U.S. does NOT produce Coffee or Cocoa. That is imported. If imports are cut off, then coffee and chocolate becomes an issue. :>( 50 percent of U.S. agricultural imports are horticultural products: fruits, foreign vegetables, tree nuts, wine, essential oils, and hops, but also include sugar, cocoa, coffee, natural rubber, etc... .
I wouldn't worry too much about stocking things that are in abundance, especially things grown in the South or Midwest. I would stock up more on those things that are imported from 10,000 miles away and have to go through port facilities.
I think you make good points. I can't say I know everything that is domestic or outsourced and I'm just waking up, but what you wrote makes me wonder how much should we worry about foreign goods, my opinion coffee and chocolate are not a big deal.
On the other hand, many reports local farmers are being payed to destroy their own goods for government subsidies.
Coffee and cocoa are very good ideas
Perishables are as well. Wheat ships easily, fruits not so much. Get a dehydrator and go to town, vit c from a pill works, but something about getting it from a dried plum hits all the right neuro transmitters.
I always cringe a bit when people suggest stocking up on coffee and cocoa to prepare for the end of the world. Not because these items won’t have trading value, but precisely because they will.
Reminds me of the great toilet paper pandemic of 2020
Yeah, no way can you brew anything good from tp-it's designed to crumble..
Just bought some emergency meal sets from https://mypatriotsupply.com
I wish I could buy ammo and guns.sadly I need to beg for permission to enjoy my right.
So,ill stack more silver instead. Nobody deserves presents anyways they caved to government.
Guns will be easy to come by.
They'll be laying next to all the dead UN soldiers you blew up with your IED that you made from stuff you can buy from any hardware store.
Gotta protect your silver somehow
Get a 3D printer. All you need is to be a better shot than the Antifa soy boy who got his Soros-funded AR
What if the gift is a gun or a couple boxes of ammo ?
I said frivolous gifts, not the BEST. GIFT. EVA.
That would be a front row ticket to the hanging of Fauci or to see Nancy or Killary being burned at the stake. Nonetheless, great gift indeed.
Best gift ever is Jesus Christ don't forget that. We fight for Christ!
A water distiller is the gift that keeps on giving; clean drinking water without: toxic fluoride to calcify your seat of the soul pineal gland, hormones to feminize and reduce sperm counts, parasites to fuel big pharma, etc.
Do you have a good one you recommend?
Berkey Filters have worked well for my family. Removed 99.9% of iron when we were having really bad hard water issues at our old house, and at the house we lived in before that one we had city water and who knows what's in that so we filtered it too. He don't have a place to set it up at our current home otherwise we would. But small city municipal water doesn't have all the bad stuff big city water does. Last time a water guy was here he tested the filter just to see and said that it reduces nearly every contaminant to undetectable levels (except trace minerals).
https://www.berkeyfilters.com/
FYI, That is a filter, not a distiller...
Still a damned good one, but a distiller heats the water and the steam condenses into a collector.
I couldn't find a made in USA one under $500 so I bought a stainless Xhina one for $80. You also need citric acid to keep cleaning after each use, but cost at 15c /kWh everything still costs half of buying distilled gallons for 88c. Also being reliant on grid water only seems like a bad plan.
Pur water filters found at thrifts @ 10 cents on the dollar, stocked up enough to last a couple years (each filter lasts 90 to 100 days) Filtered water in 89 ounce bottles and 1 gallon bottles.. stored away from sunlight.
You know you're in the right place when people say "Buy another gun" and not "Buy a gun".
One at a time? God, I hope not!
If you have little ones, you'll still want get some type of Christmas present. Think about how hard our ancestors worked to make sure their kids had some semblance of normalcy during hard times.
I have a feeling everyone will need a bit of a morale boost by Christmas. There is nothing happier than seeing little ones open presents.
I plan on buying exactly zero cheap china crap this Christmas season.
I have 15 my pillows to give away to family, lol.
Excellent idea fren
Nothing wrong with buying food, guns and ammo. Also gonna enjoy Christmas to the max, same as every year, because nothing pisses off commies worse.
If possible, buy gifts from your local patriots. If you can’t do that, go to https://www.mypillow.com/mystore
We should set up a link here with some websites so we can support each other this Christmas.
Q said that measures have been taken to ensure every American will stay safe.
Don’t do this to your kids. Buy them Christmas gifts.
Yup stop buying junk from Ch-y-na!
This exactly Mike will be BUSY this year!
Who doesn't love a soft warm blanket? Makes a great gift and thrift stores often have a nice selection of them.
That's terrible advice.
Can't fit anymore guns in my safe.
Give dirt and seeds as gifts. Give distilled or purified spring water. Give a blanket, throw, or my pillow. Enclose a red pill with it, or put a red pill on the bow.
Buy gold and silver, invest in real estate.
Do not buy cars these can lose value when we all run out of fuel to supply ourselves
I disagree.
Buy more ammo. Buy another guy. Buy canned foods and provisions. By all means be prepared.
But don't skip Christmas. And don't skimp on Christmas. Spend time with your family, spend money on them and enjoy a happy traditional Christmas. The elite want to destroy the nuclear family, and preventing us from celebrating traditional holidays with those that we love is one of their goals.
bro... we're getting a tree.. we're cooking a huge ham... There will be tradition and Christmas music. Gifts under the tree..
How did you take such a dower message from this submission?
Key word is FRIVOLOUS
lol lighten up
Trade gifts of MREs and ammo. Heck id be a happy camper if that were in my stocking!
Merry Christmas fellow filthy animals!
I've been eyeballing and American made barbell for the wife.
On the third day of Christmas my true love gave to me:
Three flashlights
Two cans of gas
And a camo AR-15
Oh yes, we talked as a family about that. We are pooling resources and thanksgiving is going to be our big holiday.
better: have Christmas AND buy supplies....most could fund a basic food, ammo and medicine cache by giving up cable tv and fast food for a year
I’m not buying the cheap plastic, made in Chyna decor or gifts but check out local shops, handmade stuff and support your local artisans if you can. It really bugs the shizz out of me that the big box stores have their Xmas decor out already and it isn’t even Halloween. Fukkin Mickey Mouse... yeah we will see a lot of that this year for their anniversary. Wish I could shoot those inflatables lol. This neighbor has a Halloween Mickey right by the edge of his property and it has a death wish.
I like buying books for people for Xmas. Boring, I know but I figure out what hobby or interest they have and get them something I think they might enjoy. Plus a gift card or whatever. But someone mentioned My Pillows. Excellent idea.
My gift to all of you is more rice and beans in my pantry. Merry Christmas!
Kraft dinner is the only ammo up in Canada.
I got a pillow for my gun rack
I worry the thing to get will be medicines. I dont take any but my dog takes anti-seizure meds and I'm pretty sure it comes from India likes most meds. So I would add some Doxycycline to the list as well as maybe your everyday vitamins/minerals etc
Where are you finding ammo frens?
Local surplus store,or big box sporting goods store on delivery day.
Gun shows-pricy
If you can, buy silver, too.
Absofuckinglooooooooootly THIS.
Do you one better, buy your loved ones guns ammo, n food this year.