She probably brown-nosed her way to the top. Where I used to work we had a young guy who had gotten hired in after me who did this. He was literally a butt kisser and now I hear he is plant manager. These people can't be stopped. They all need to lose their jobs and be put on the bottom of the ladder and made to run those machines that we have/had to run in order to know how our jobs are stressful enough without a mask on.
Sorry, wish I could help. Other than crapping on a few masks, wrapping them for Christmas and sending them anonymously; I don't know. God bless and have a great day. Sorry I got caught up in the flesh with that answer.
Great idea. And when they continuously work around the pigs, the scent of pig crap will sink into the pores of their skin and they'll smell it for months. Thanks , that's where they need to be.
I got fired from a job because they hired some guy like that. Very passive aggressive Napoleon type, "respect your elders" since he is 5 years older, "everybody here loves me because a customer thanked me", will gladly tell someone with a beer belly or skinny arms that they are too fat or too skinny "because he cares about health" but won't dare tell the VY Canis Majoris sized boss that he needs to lose weight, etc.
Started out as a decent guy, then he found out I didn't believe in flat earth and that I was younger than him but more liked by other employees, so he became more and more passive aggressive. It didn't help that our department manager got mad at me so he put me on a graveyard shift and allowed this guy to make up whatever he wanted to about me and I would get in trouble for it. Guy thought I was nuts because while he was talking about how literal the Bible needs to be taken and flat earth etc, I suggested that civilization in the time of Noah might have looked similar to ours (basically flat earth exists and DNA isn't real = not nutty, Noah was real but the story is little bit off = nutty)
To give anyone an idea of this guy, when we were sitting around talking about military stuff and experiences, the only thing this dude said he enjoyed was about how he used to look for the rank on people's uniform and, if they were a lower rank than him, he would chew them out and make them do pushups for no good reason. The way he kept saying 'his drill sergeant buddies' made me ask if he was a drill sergeant, "nah, private first class". A real winner.
I finally got fired because the lies this dude kept telling built up and I wasn't really allowed to fight against them (I also got written up for clocking in too early when my time clock showed me clocking in a minute or two early, and got a final warning for clocking in seconds too late or a couple of minutes, there is usually a queue for the clock), especially not against a stubborn old man who didn't like me but loved faux drill sergeant Napoleon. It also didn't help that I, like the other employees, didn't throw a parade everytime the same sweet old lady comes in and thanks us when she leaves, but guess who did?
Hopefully part of the great awakening will be an end to this kind of shitty business running, but unless there is a huge spiritual shift or every single big business collapses then I don't see it happening. What I would give to be a fly on the wall of VY Canis Majoris's office when Napoleon finally decides that since he is literally the best employee ever, he should deserve $30 an hour. I imagine it's similar to what Patriots in our government see, that the whole ladder is completely rotten and deserves to crumble so long as the Patriots get to build a new one without any of the old rungs.
Are you sure he's not related to Hillary? Sounds like a douche; excuse my language. There are and will always be those who given a little authority let it go to their heads. I believe in my heart that when WE get to Heaven, God will make them answer for the things they've done to us and others. God bless you friend.
And I know of a UPS employee who has to use C-PAP every night but they want him to mask. Have them sign liability acceptance since this is against my medical professional's advice.
How about messages on the mask:
I wear a mask because My boss stinks.
In order to preserve your continued employment, I would suggest a solution like "FakeMask Double Incognito" that gives the appearance of compliance while still allowing you to breathe. Alternatively, start looking for other work. I don't mean that you should quit. You shouldn't. But there is a real chance of being fired due to taking this stand, so you'll want to have a plan in case that happens.
Eh, give them an inch, they'll take a round trip on a plane to another country while screaming about climate change.
Just don't comply is the answer. Either people lose their jobs now, or their livelihood later.
I get your point though, don't go overboard with things. Just simply say no, I have a freedom of choice as well. You want to be a blue haired faggot and I dont.
The response they have for this is pretty simple, they just say that it's not about keeping you from getting COVID, it's about limiting the spray of spit droplets from each persons mouth. None of the articles mention that, and they've thought around it.
Actually I think at least one of them did. It's been about a month since I went through the PDF but there is at least one article that talked about this.
Let them send you home and file a grievance daily based on your missing guaranteed time. If your part time that's 3.5 hrs daily, or 8 hrs full.
They can't keep you from punching in but they can send you home for any reason. Good thing their reason isn't mentioned in the current iteration of the union book.
PBS Documentary on 1918 Flu Pandemic (Spanish Flu)
"All of America, it seemed, put on masks. At last, many thought, they were safe. But masks didn't help. They were thin and porous -- no serious restraint to tiny microbes. It was like trying to keep out dust with chicken wire."
"A resolution shot through Congress, giving the Public Health Service a million dollars to fight the flu. Biochemists around the country worked feverishly to develop a vaccine. [...] But even vaccines didn't help."
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/#transcripthttp://archive.today/IYjlo
Send emails, and ONLY accept email communication. Print them out.
Anytime they have a verbal conversation, SEND AN EMAIL summarizing what was said by both/all parties.
GET IT ALL IN WRITING.
Then, you will have some ammo later, if necessary.
My first email would go something like this:
You and I had a conversation on [day/date]. You asked me to wear a facemask. I told you [whatever it was]. So and so also got involved in the conversation. The end result was [whatever].
I am still not clear on something. Why do you want me to wear a facemask?
[Note: You want to get THEM to make claims of why you MUST do something. And get it in writing. That way, you can later come back above their head to the boss and start asking why these demands are being made when there is no factual basis for it (no law, no science, etc.). Keep a record of what they claim, in writing, so they can't lie about it later.]
I even brought it up that no one wears a mask for 90% of the shift every day and only put them on at the end when a particular upper management guy is coming in. I said "it's clearly not about health, is it?"
"Well they should all wearing them al the time" fuck this slimy POS, he is fully aware that's how they've been dealing with the mask issu, even before I started working there. Hell, ** it's management themselves that pass the masks out towards the end of shift** so they are 100% aware they dont wear them most of the time. They tried using "its company policy" excuse but again, management themselves arent following this policy so how can they legally try to make an example out of me?
I finally had a conversation last Friday with my plant manager about masks and why I won't wear one. I flat out told him it was for religious reasons. He asked what religious reasons and I briefly thought about if I should or not and then I just thought, fuck it and said it was because masks were satanic and that we are created in God's image and covering one's face (sans health reasons) is an affront to God. Masks are used in satanic rituals and are also used as a demoralization and control device etc. and I will not bow down to any satanic stuff.
He went on the health angle and I then unloaded on him everything I have learned about how the masks don't work on viral particles per actual disclaimers on the box, the PCR tests and its inventor (Kerry Mullis) saying they should never be used for viral diagnoses, the pumping up the "positive" numbers by the cycles ran and that it is NOT about health.
He then said just wear the mask for a few minutes during a daily meeting out in the warehouse. Just a few minutes he said. I wouldn't budge, I said I can't for the religious reason. Didn't give an inch. If I had done so, it would negate my stance on the religious aspect. They can't touch that, he even said so.
I don't think it is over, but he did say in parting that my arguments gave him things to think about.
UPS was a union job when I was there. The Teamsters. There should be another employee there that is the team leader, I forget what the actual title is called, but try to find them. There's probably a good chance they work in small sort. Unless the commies got to the teamsters, which wouldn't be totally shocking, they should help you out. Don't talk to ANY supervisor about it.
Well if you are paying dues you are union....Should have had a union rep sitting there in a meeting prior to leaving! Get everything in writing and go from there!
I discovered that the mask mandates are linked to potential lawsuits. Corporations are afraid of being sued by people who contract the coof and possibly die while at their place of business. Following CDC guidelines is a form of risk management being practiced. Not saying it's right just pointing out how we ended up here. Until there is some form of legislation removing the potential liability, corporations will continue to follow recommendations. Follow the money.
Don't fight it. Understand that for this brief period of time it is its turn. BUT the aftermath will all be ruinous. When, Trump regains control. A lot of these fail whales will adapt and fail.
Well for what it’s worth fren: great job standing up to those limp tards. In the end, after all is said and done, you are a proud, beautiful sovereign of these United States and dammit you deserve to be treated fairly. As for rainbow Godzilla, she is nothing, was never anyone useful, has no spine, will fall over if pressure is applied, has no clue what honor or true pride is. You do! We love you for it too! Keep being froggy my fren and, um, fuck their feelings! Bring them down…
you could record a short video of your supervisor every time you see them without their mask. If the higher up person wants to send you home, show him the videos and say the supervisor has to be sent home as well. if they have a policy and want to enforce it, they can't selectively enforce it - all or none. I bet you wont be sent home then. but they will probably just try to find something else to nit pick about till they can get you fired.
I too also work at a UPS Store and my manager won't even fight me because almost all UPS stores are franchise and privately owned, and they're not actually working with UPS corporate directly, really only have to be corporate standard when there is another official in the store, and so most of them don't want to lose their valuable staff. In fact I haven't been wearing a mask at all, all year, and he just tells everybody that the whole store is vaccinated. I don't think he wants me to get legal. He knows I know the ways.
She probably brown-nosed her way to the top. Where I used to work we had a young guy who had gotten hired in after me who did this. He was literally a butt kisser and now I hear he is plant manager. These people can't be stopped. They all need to lose their jobs and be put on the bottom of the ladder and made to run those machines that we have/had to run in order to know how our jobs are stressful enough without a mask on.
Sorry, wish I could help. Other than crapping on a few masks, wrapping them for Christmas and sending them anonymously; I don't know. God bless and have a great day. Sorry I got caught up in the flesh with that answer.
What they need is to be sent to pig farms where they'll pitch pig sh** for months on end. That'll humble anyone.
Great idea. And when they continuously work around the pigs, the scent of pig crap will sink into the pores of their skin and they'll smell it for months. Thanks , that's where they need to be.
I got fired from a job because they hired some guy like that. Very passive aggressive Napoleon type, "respect your elders" since he is 5 years older, "everybody here loves me because a customer thanked me", will gladly tell someone with a beer belly or skinny arms that they are too fat or too skinny "because he cares about health" but won't dare tell the VY Canis Majoris sized boss that he needs to lose weight, etc.
Started out as a decent guy, then he found out I didn't believe in flat earth and that I was younger than him but more liked by other employees, so he became more and more passive aggressive. It didn't help that our department manager got mad at me so he put me on a graveyard shift and allowed this guy to make up whatever he wanted to about me and I would get in trouble for it. Guy thought I was nuts because while he was talking about how literal the Bible needs to be taken and flat earth etc, I suggested that civilization in the time of Noah might have looked similar to ours (basically flat earth exists and DNA isn't real = not nutty, Noah was real but the story is little bit off = nutty)
To give anyone an idea of this guy, when we were sitting around talking about military stuff and experiences, the only thing this dude said he enjoyed was about how he used to look for the rank on people's uniform and, if they were a lower rank than him, he would chew them out and make them do pushups for no good reason. The way he kept saying 'his drill sergeant buddies' made me ask if he was a drill sergeant, "nah, private first class". A real winner.
I finally got fired because the lies this dude kept telling built up and I wasn't really allowed to fight against them (I also got written up for clocking in too early when my time clock showed me clocking in a minute or two early, and got a final warning for clocking in seconds too late or a couple of minutes, there is usually a queue for the clock), especially not against a stubborn old man who didn't like me but loved faux drill sergeant Napoleon. It also didn't help that I, like the other employees, didn't throw a parade everytime the same sweet old lady comes in and thanks us when she leaves, but guess who did?
Hopefully part of the great awakening will be an end to this kind of shitty business running, but unless there is a huge spiritual shift or every single big business collapses then I don't see it happening. What I would give to be a fly on the wall of VY Canis Majoris's office when Napoleon finally decides that since he is literally the best employee ever, he should deserve $30 an hour. I imagine it's similar to what Patriots in our government see, that the whole ladder is completely rotten and deserves to crumble so long as the Patriots get to build a new one without any of the old rungs.
Are you sure he's not related to Hillary? Sounds like a douche; excuse my language. There are and will always be those who given a little authority let it go to their heads. I believe in my heart that when WE get to Heaven, God will make them answer for the things they've done to us and others. God bless you friend.
I don't see flesh.
U P S brown nose, no way!
I try to do what God asks of me, but I got a little crazy with the crappy mask. Haha. Glad you didn't see anything. God bless.
Reminds me of that girl walking her dog and using her mask to pick up the dog's 💩. Then putting it back on of course... God I hope that was fake
Yuck! I remember that. I think it was real or they stopped the video and swapped masks. EW....
Put mask on as directed, have medical event, repeat.
This is what I do.
And I know of a UPS employee who has to use C-PAP every night but they want him to mask. Have them sign liability acceptance since this is against my medical professional's advice.
How about messages on the mask: I wear a mask because My boss stinks.
Why does UPS wear brown? POOP.
In order to preserve your continued employment, I would suggest a solution like "FakeMask Double Incognito" that gives the appearance of compliance while still allowing you to breathe. Alternatively, start looking for other work. I don't mean that you should quit. You shouldn't. But there is a real chance of being fired due to taking this stand, so you'll want to have a plan in case that happens.
Eh, give them an inch, they'll take a round trip on a plane to another country while screaming about climate change.
Just don't comply is the answer. Either people lose their jobs now, or their livelihood later.
I get your point though, don't go overboard with things. Just simply say no, I have a freedom of choice as well. You want to be a blue haired faggot and I dont.
From a previous post
Below are 42 masks don’t work articles. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049528v1.full.pdf https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779801/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/ https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.10720.pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/15459620903120086 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30029810/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30029810/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30035033/ https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577 http://scielo.isciii.es/pdf/neuro/v19n2/3.pdf https://www.jimmunol.org/content/177/8/4962 https://europepmc.org/article/PMC/3420330 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047217v2 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342 https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744 https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577.long https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.10.1.34 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/ https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD002929.pub2/full https://europepmc.org/article/med/25294675 https://journals.lww.com/jbjsjournal/Abstract/2014/09030/Surgical_Attire_and_the_Operating_Room__Role_in.11.aspx https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0141076815583167 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-16836/v1 https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744 https://europepmc.org/article/med/11760479 http://www.advancesinpd.com/adv01/21Figueiredo.htm https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/751a/cd427c20c8dc7d1fbc1b45eead104286f481.pdf https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/113/6/1447/9572/Is-Routine-Use-of-a-Face-Mask-Necessary-in-the https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1445-2197.2009.05200.x https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1157412/ https://europepmc.org/article/med/7379387 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ccd.1810170306 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01658736 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0310057X0102900402 42 articles that masks don’t work: https://greatawakening.win/p/12i3uVmFmc/i-could-cite-at-least-30-peerrev/c/ Helicopter Footage Sandy Hook. https
Nooo! Where's the helicopter footage of Sandy Hook??
Also
PDF TEMPLATE TO PRINT OUT AND QR CODE WITH 30+ PUBLISHED RESEARCH PAPERS SHOWING MASKS ARE USELESS AGAINST COVID!!! POST EVERYWHERE IN PUBLIC!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/yjnhtf.pdf
I need to update this PDF if you have more links to add.
The response they have for this is pretty simple, they just say that it's not about keeping you from getting COVID, it's about limiting the spray of spit droplets from each persons mouth. None of the articles mention that, and they've thought around it.
Actually I think at least one of them did. It's been about a month since I went through the PDF but there is at least one article that talked about this.
I'd like to see that one because everything I've read has been very consistently saying that.
In the preamble to the final Respiratory Protection Standard, OSHA discussed extensively its rationale for requiring that employees breathe air consisting of at least 19.5 percent oxygen. https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2007-04-02-0
Let them send you home and file a grievance daily based on your missing guaranteed time. If your part time that's 3.5 hrs daily, or 8 hrs full.
They can't keep you from punching in but they can send you home for any reason. Good thing their reason isn't mentioned in the current iteration of the union book.
This resource is a gold mine. Start by printing the CDC flyer that clearly states "do not use facemasks" and go from there.
https://pastebin.com/5xEMa5P7
And this:
PBS Documentary on 1918 Flu Pandemic (Spanish Flu) "All of America, it seemed, put on masks. At last, many thought, they were safe. But masks didn't help. They were thin and porous -- no serious restraint to tiny microbes. It was like trying to keep out dust with chicken wire." "A resolution shot through Congress, giving the Public Health Service a million dollars to fight the flu. Biochemists around the country worked feverishly to develop a vaccine. [...] But even vaccines didn't help." https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/#transcript http://archive.today/IYjlo
UPS is a WEF partner so I'm not surprised.
If more people took a stand, this mask nonsense would be over.
MAIN POINT: Get it ALL IN WRITING.
Send emails, and ONLY accept email communication. Print them out.
Anytime they have a verbal conversation, SEND AN EMAIL summarizing what was said by both/all parties.
GET IT ALL IN WRITING.
Then, you will have some ammo later, if necessary.
My first email would go something like this:
You and I had a conversation on [day/date]. You asked me to wear a facemask. I told you [whatever it was]. So and so also got involved in the conversation. The end result was [whatever].
I am still not clear on something. Why do you want me to wear a facemask?
[Note: You want to get THEM to make claims of why you MUST do something. And get it in writing. That way, you can later come back above their head to the boss and start asking why these demands are being made when there is no factual basis for it (no law, no science, etc.). Keep a record of what they claim, in writing, so they can't lie about it later.]
This right here ^^^
I even brought it up that no one wears a mask for 90% of the shift every day and only put them on at the end when a particular upper management guy is coming in. I said "it's clearly not about health, is it?"
"Well they should all wearing them al the time" fuck this slimy POS, he is fully aware that's how they've been dealing with the mask issu, even before I started working there. Hell, ** it's management themselves that pass the masks out towards the end of shift** so they are 100% aware they dont wear them most of the time. They tried using "its company policy" excuse but again, management themselves arent following this policy so how can they legally try to make an example out of me?
I finally had a conversation last Friday with my plant manager about masks and why I won't wear one. I flat out told him it was for religious reasons. He asked what religious reasons and I briefly thought about if I should or not and then I just thought, fuck it and said it was because masks were satanic and that we are created in God's image and covering one's face (sans health reasons) is an affront to God. Masks are used in satanic rituals and are also used as a demoralization and control device etc. and I will not bow down to any satanic stuff.
He went on the health angle and I then unloaded on him everything I have learned about how the masks don't work on viral particles per actual disclaimers on the box, the PCR tests and its inventor (Kerry Mullis) saying they should never be used for viral diagnoses, the pumping up the "positive" numbers by the cycles ran and that it is NOT about health.
He then said just wear the mask for a few minutes during a daily meeting out in the warehouse. Just a few minutes he said. I wouldn't budge, I said I can't for the religious reason. Didn't give an inch. If I had done so, it would negate my stance on the religious aspect. They can't touch that, he even said so.
I don't think it is over, but he did say in parting that my arguments gave him things to think about.
got any articles about the mask being used as control?
Here is one article on masks being used as a control.
https://www.hennessysview.com/masks-to-control-you/
Are you not Union?
If it's by default then ye. If I had to sign up for it specifically then no.
UPS was a union job when I was there. The Teamsters. There should be another employee there that is the team leader, I forget what the actual title is called, but try to find them. There's probably a good chance they work in small sort. Unless the commies got to the teamsters, which wouldn't be totally shocking, they should help you out. Don't talk to ANY supervisor about it.
Well if you are paying dues you are union....Should have had a union rep sitting there in a meeting prior to leaving! Get everything in writing and go from there!
Fren, being terminated for "non-compliance" is a plus on your resume.
They legally can't enforce masks because it is considered practicing medicine to prescribe a mask.
From a previous post...
Below are 42 masks don’t work articles. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049528v1.full.pdf https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779801/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/ https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.10720.pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/15459620903120086 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30029810/ https://
PDF TEMPLATE TO PRINT OUT AND QR CODE WITH 30+ PUBLISHED RESEARCH PAPERS SHOWING MASKS ARE USELESS AGAINST COVID!!! POST EVERYWHERE IN PUBLIC!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/yjnhtf.pdf
I need to update this PDF if you have more links to add.
I discovered that the mask mandates are linked to potential lawsuits. Corporations are afraid of being sued by people who contract the coof and possibly die while at their place of business. Following CDC guidelines is a form of risk management being practiced. Not saying it's right just pointing out how we ended up here. Until there is some form of legislation removing the potential liability, corporations will continue to follow recommendations. Follow the money.
You, sir, are the hope of UPS.
Don't fight it. Understand that for this brief period of time it is its turn. BUT the aftermath will all be ruinous. When, Trump regains control. A lot of these fail whales will adapt and fail.
Here is some Gilbert and Sullivan I hope it helps.
Need a 3D printer for most effective way to share information.
I recommend you watch the movie strangers on a train and then act accordingly.
Good luck!
Well for what it’s worth fren: great job standing up to those limp tards. In the end, after all is said and done, you are a proud, beautiful sovereign of these United States and dammit you deserve to be treated fairly. As for rainbow Godzilla, she is nothing, was never anyone useful, has no spine, will fall over if pressure is applied, has no clue what honor or true pride is. You do! We love you for it too! Keep being froggy my fren and, um, fuck their feelings! Bring them down…
Hold the line. STAND and PRAY. God will bless you for it
you could record a short video of your supervisor every time you see them without their mask. If the higher up person wants to send you home, show him the videos and say the supervisor has to be sent home as well. if they have a policy and want to enforce it, they can't selectively enforce it - all or none. I bet you wont be sent home then. but they will probably just try to find something else to nit pick about till they can get you fired.
I too also work at a UPS Store and my manager won't even fight me because almost all UPS stores are franchise and privately owned, and they're not actually working with UPS corporate directly, really only have to be corporate standard when there is another official in the store, and so most of them don't want to lose their valuable staff. In fact I haven't been wearing a mask at all, all year, and he just tells everybody that the whole store is vaccinated. I don't think he wants me to get legal. He knows I know the ways.