Look at the people that speak truth - Trump, Lynn, Lindell, Dr. Shiva, Dr. Zelenko, etc. These people are ostracized by society, and lose money for standing up and speaking truth.
Joe, Tim Pool, Russell Brand - they sit on the fence because it's financially convenient.
Financially convenient = complicity.
Complicity = "I'll throw your ass under the bus and switch sides when it's convenient."
Throw your adoration and loyalty where it may, but use your head. It ain't 4d chess, its holographic checkers.
Fair point but the awakening comes in waves. Not everyone is at the same point at the same time. Fence sitting or not either way the fact that a very mainstream guy is talking about these things Carries mega weight and impacts a lot of sleeping sheep. I’ll take it.
Agreed. Normies/skeptics need to be able to accept and digest bite sized pieces before drinking from the firehose. And let’s face it, realizing the pandemic and vaccine program was a classic problem>reaction>solution scam perpetrated in unison by all our most trusted institutions is a MASSIVE revelation for most people. And MAYBE folks like JR, RB, TP etc are going through their own organic awakening and simply commenting on it from their vantage point, though I tend to think they probably know much more than they’re letting on about. Either way, the point is that humans are waking up in droves now and that’s a GOOD thing.
Or, with MSM dying and people turning away from corporate media, these people are being allowed to stay on certain platforms where you and i saying these thing would get us banned instantly and scoop up eyeballs looking for a new home.
Then they can at the very least control what topics they cover and therefore where the eyeballs are looking.
For all of the great subjects they do cover, think of all the really important issues they never touch. Keeping you focused in one specific direction.
The fact that these people are freely allowed to post to cabal media platforms even once they gain millions of followers should tell you all you need to know.
would not say that Tim Poole is a fence sitter. It's more like he understands the game he is playing with the tech billionaires. in one of his podcasts, he talks about the game of trying to tell the news and having guests on that have been de-platformed for having messages that the mainstream media suppresses. suggest people actually try a membership for one month and watch the stuff he can't put up with ou risking his YouTube channel
a Shil presents a view that someone tells them to have.... I believe that Tim is his own person... Hannity is a corporate shill, if someone controls your content in media you are a Shil. Every one that works at Tim cast is a shill because they are paid to help Tim Poole present his view. Luke who appears on his show is not a Shil. He is not paid by Tim and operates his own business... nothing wrong being a Shil but a Shil is more likely to be wrong
Thanks fren for the splanation. I was using “shill” in a looser definition as someone not speaking his true thoughts bc of monetary interests. He may not have corporate overlords but that YouTube metrics algo shit got his balls. So same dif in my book.
just my flawed view.... I find the term Shil overused and abused with people claiming every point of view they disagree with being that of Shil would. I don't think the metric controls TIM pooles' content, but it does influence it. There are YouTube content creators that it does control best example is Jeremy from Geeks and gamers or Jeremy who runs the channel the Quartering. both those guys brag about how the algorithm influences what they will make, Jeremy from geeks and gamers made hundreds of hours of content about his hatred of actor Bree Larson because the algorithm for that content gave him eyeballs. he only stopped when the algorithm changed.
A hesitance voice is better than a silent one. No way to get your message out if you go full Alex Jones. Just because someone makes money doesn’t make them the enemy. That’s money out of enemy hands, going to a good message. Someone has to capitalize in this environment, I’d rather spend my money listening to them, than Vausch.. or any of those fucks.
I think he still has a way to go before that happens. A couple of months ago he watched that HBO show about Q, and he's convinced (or was at the time) that CodeMonkey confessed to being Q, and that anyone who believes that there is anything valid or real about Q is an idiot. I can't remember which episodes included his thoughts on the documentary, but there were a couple, and it was just after it dropped.
I do think he's waking up, slowly. And I do think that he's very useful in bringing a whole lot of normies with him in the process.
Totally. I think a year or two before the election he mentioned Q. And he was never on the show again during 2020 maybe even 2019. Ever since the rona he hasn’t been on. But he also is a flat earther so that dampens the umph.
I will agree he has balls to say out loud what he thinks. I’ve seen the flat earther video explanations. Not convinced it makes sense though so that’s where I’m at.
I really don’t get the flat earth theory hate. We tend to agree that we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING, correct? NASA is a big part of the EVERYTHING we’ve been lied to about. Not saying I believe it but I don’t outright dismiss it either.
Personally I’m open to the possibility. I don’t hate them. But so far I haven’t seen anything that made sense to me is all. I just mention that bc at this moment if you as a celebrity or influencer came out as a flat earther, you lose all credibility with most people. Maybe flat earth is a disinformation campaign used precisely for this reason. Who knows.
Oh absolutely I fully understand that it’s a leap too far for most people. I also understand we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING (or so we are told). I also understand NASA has given us a bunch of fakery and composit pictures of the earth and that if you google photos of the earth from space, you’ll see the continents varying wildly in size from one “photograph” to the next. I also understand credentialed and qualified FE researchers cannot find a measurable curve at all, much less one that should be apparent given the known and accepted circumference of the earth. So whether it’s a disc or an infinite plane or a globe, we are being deceived about it somehow for some reason. My most honest conclusion is that I just don’t know.
We've still got a ways to go. Still a large number of morons totally asleep. But good on Joe for stepping up on his platform to say the important parts out loud.
If people as huge as Joe would take a stand the easily manipulated and influenced people will wake up sooner. Honestly a lot of people are like fucking zombies. They still get a vote. Those people need good leaders and it is probably the majority of the population sadly.
Kennedy said it 60 years ago out loud and in detail to the entire press. He got shot for that... it would do everyone good to listen to or read his words.
Probably after he cured himself of covid and they told the world he was just eating horse paste he got a taste of what its like to be on receiving end of the fake news.
He tells some truth and people listen to him so i figure joe is a good thing overall.
Ive always thought he was positive overall even when not serving our interests directly because he’s the only big personality telling normies to make their own opinions when the rest are literally issuing commands.
How is he a fence sitter? This type of attitude about shit doesn’t win anyone over to our point of view. People will wake up at their pace. Not everyone who wakes up is going to start wearing a Trump hat and quoting Q like it’s scripture.
Joe’s a self made multimillionaire who is curious and asks hood questions.
and just recently, the multimillionaire was referring to Q and Trump supporters as a CULT. I’m excited to see him finally coming around…but one episode does not make him a believer. I realize this will take time. Listeners and advertisers alike need to be handled gently. The next few weeks should be very exciting.
I feel like Joe has very obviously known this for years and years. Maybe he got “talked out of it” awhile back. Maybe it’s just now safe enough for him to say it out loud. I dunno. I’m glad he’s saying it though. 200,000,000 is a lot of eyes/ears.
I wish people would stop prefacing ostensibly pro Trump statements with 'I don't xyz Trump, but...'
Joe is learning, but he isn't awake, yet. When he says, "Look you dumbass retards...Trump is the best thing that has happened to us since the founding " Then I'll agree he's awake. Right now he's just less retarded.
It would be much too jarring to his moderate audience if he just came out swinging like that. But its important that a huge media figure actually speaks about Trump in a reasonable light, because most in his position have absolutely shit on MAGA/Trump in every conceivable fashion and at every available opportunity.
Use of the same game plan that got President Nixon, except Nixon played into a coverup. Who ordered the break-in at the Watergate? To this day we still do not know.
I don't hate on flat earthers. I don't agree with them. But honestly science, and NASA are liars/deceivers.
I think the publics understanding of space and Earth has been completely controlled. And controlled by untrustworthy people. In my opinion at least flat earthers don't just buy whatever is being fed to them.
There are some crazy flat earthers. But then there are just "conspiracy theorists" who have gone down that particular rabbit whole and came out the other side thinking the way they do.
Start looking into flat earth on telegram and soon you'll see a ton of stuff you've never seen before. Like Tartaria. A whole country that was around just a couple hundred years ago and got wiped from our history.
"Judah and Benjamin combined to become the Jews. The rest of them became Tartarians."
Lame. Nobody is perfect and that doesn't need to be said at all. I wish Joe would stop catering to the dumbest out there by first knocking Trump so he can then compliment him. It's so dumb.
At the same time though it allows trump haters to swallow the truth easier by acknowledging trumps not perfect but he wasn’t wrong. We can be right or we can be effective. I think he played it just right for his left leaning audiences and trump haters.
Joe's not "waking up" or playing any kind of chess. He's always been awake, but can't be honest about it because there are certain truths the public is not ready to accept. So he knows what not to say at one point, and when to say it at a later point. Most public figures have this instinct.
Or was he awake the whole time and maneuvering himself into a position where he could say exactly what he thought and not get fired for it?
Damn dude. Joe rogan playing 4d chess? Never woulda thunk it, but makes sense
You don't get the kind of following he has only to throw it away. He knows wtf is up.
He shouldn't be the last to see it
He ain't playing nothing but his audience.
Look at the people that speak truth - Trump, Lynn, Lindell, Dr. Shiva, Dr. Zelenko, etc. These people are ostracized by society, and lose money for standing up and speaking truth.
Joe, Tim Pool, Russell Brand - they sit on the fence because it's financially convenient.
Financially convenient = complicity.
Complicity = "I'll throw your ass under the bus and switch sides when it's convenient."
Throw your adoration and loyalty where it may, but use your head. It ain't 4d chess, its holographic checkers.
Fair point but the awakening comes in waves. Not everyone is at the same point at the same time. Fence sitting or not either way the fact that a very mainstream guy is talking about these things Carries mega weight and impacts a lot of sleeping sheep. I’ll take it.
Agreed. Normies/skeptics need to be able to accept and digest bite sized pieces before drinking from the firehose. And let’s face it, realizing the pandemic and vaccine program was a classic problem>reaction>solution scam perpetrated in unison by all our most trusted institutions is a MASSIVE revelation for most people. And MAYBE folks like JR, RB, TP etc are going through their own organic awakening and simply commenting on it from their vantage point, though I tend to think they probably know much more than they’re letting on about. Either way, the point is that humans are waking up in droves now and that’s a GOOD thing.
Russel Brand is growing massively as well. It feels like major voices are maneuvering to help the awakening movement.
Yeah as someone who subs to his channel, imo it's not fair at all to say he rides the fence.
Brand is definitively not a fence sitter. You would only have to watch like 3 of his videos to conclude he isn't.
Or, with MSM dying and people turning away from corporate media, these people are being allowed to stay on certain platforms where you and i saying these thing would get us banned instantly and scoop up eyeballs looking for a new home. Then they can at the very least control what topics they cover and therefore where the eyeballs are looking.
For all of the great subjects they do cover, think of all the really important issues they never touch. Keeping you focused in one specific direction.
The fact that these people are freely allowed to post to cabal media platforms even once they gain millions of followers should tell you all you need to know.
would not say that Tim Poole is a fence sitter. It's more like he understands the game he is playing with the tech billionaires. in one of his podcasts, he talks about the game of trying to tell the news and having guests on that have been de-platformed for having messages that the mainstream media suppresses. suggest people actually try a membership for one month and watch the stuff he can't put up with ou risking his YouTube channel
Yea Tim’s not a fence sitter. I agreee. He’s a borderline shill.
a Shil presents a view that someone tells them to have.... I believe that Tim is his own person... Hannity is a corporate shill, if someone controls your content in media you are a Shil. Every one that works at Tim cast is a shill because they are paid to help Tim Poole present his view. Luke who appears on his show is not a Shil. He is not paid by Tim and operates his own business... nothing wrong being a Shil but a Shil is more likely to be wrong
Thanks fren for the splanation. I was using “shill” in a looser definition as someone not speaking his true thoughts bc of monetary interests. He may not have corporate overlords but that YouTube metrics algo shit got his balls. So same dif in my book.
just my flawed view.... I find the term Shil overused and abused with people claiming every point of view they disagree with being that of Shil would. I don't think the metric controls TIM pooles' content, but it does influence it. There are YouTube content creators that it does control best example is Jeremy from Geeks and gamers or Jeremy who runs the channel the Quartering. both those guys brag about how the algorithm influences what they will make, Jeremy from geeks and gamers made hundreds of hours of content about his hatred of actor Bree Larson because the algorithm for that content gave him eyeballs. he only stopped when the algorithm changed.
A hesitance voice is better than a silent one. No way to get your message out if you go full Alex Jones. Just because someone makes money doesn’t make them the enemy. That’s money out of enemy hands, going to a good message. Someone has to capitalize in this environment, I’d rather spend my money listening to them, than Vausch.. or any of those fucks.
4d kicky-punch
Many multi-dimensional chessmasters in our midst rn, even a few celebs that aren’t total pieces of dogshit.
I will be impressed if he starts quoting Q posts.😉
I think he still has a way to go before that happens. A couple of months ago he watched that HBO show about Q, and he's convinced (or was at the time) that CodeMonkey confessed to being Q, and that anyone who believes that there is anything valid or real about Q is an idiot. I can't remember which episodes included his thoughts on the documentary, but there were a couple, and it was just after it dropped.
I do think he's waking up, slowly. And I do think that he's very useful in bringing a whole lot of normies with him in the process.
He’s almost there. Wait till he gets Eddie bravo back on.
Is Eddie on the q train?
Totally. I think a year or two before the election he mentioned Q. And he was never on the show again during 2020 maybe even 2019. Ever since the rona he hasn’t been on. But he also is a flat earther so that dampens the umph.
I think Eddie got quite after ANTIFA burned down his business in SoCal last year during the riots. It felt targeted.
Yikes. That sucks.
Flat earth gives him respect. It takes balls to say that everything you've ever been taught is a lie.
What was the first thing Elon musk said after launching a tesla into "space"?
"That looks fake as hell" or something to that end.
Flat earth n Vincent fusca discredits Q bc the masses simply won't believe they've been that savagely lied to.
I will agree he has balls to say out loud what he thinks. I’ve seen the flat earther video explanations. Not convinced it makes sense though so that’s where I’m at.
Think of the sun and moon as a positive and negative charge from a battery.
The earth is exactly as it s described in the Bible with water above and water below. The map the UN uses on its flag is true.
Hebrew has a world for sphere the ancients don't use it to describe earth.
The light of the moon is not a reflection of the light from the sun. Some things can only grow in moonlight.
Enjoy the rabbit hole fren.
I really don’t get the flat earth theory hate. We tend to agree that we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING, correct? NASA is a big part of the EVERYTHING we’ve been lied to about. Not saying I believe it but I don’t outright dismiss it either.
Personally I’m open to the possibility. I don’t hate them. But so far I haven’t seen anything that made sense to me is all. I just mention that bc at this moment if you as a celebrity or influencer came out as a flat earther, you lose all credibility with most people. Maybe flat earth is a disinformation campaign used precisely for this reason. Who knows.
Oh absolutely I fully understand that it’s a leap too far for most people. I also understand we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING (or so we are told). I also understand NASA has given us a bunch of fakery and composit pictures of the earth and that if you google photos of the earth from space, you’ll see the continents varying wildly in size from one “photograph” to the next. I also understand credentialed and qualified FE researchers cannot find a measurable curve at all, much less one that should be apparent given the known and accepted circumference of the earth. So whether it’s a disc or an infinite plane or a globe, we are being deceived about it somehow for some reason. My most honest conclusion is that I just don’t know.
Or the ship is sinking and the rat has been given the green light to jump ship.
I think it means the end is near when the talking mouthpieces start being more vical to things they werent before.
I have suspected this many times. I often found myself thinking "Joe's too wise to be so naive!" when he talks about certain topics.
We've still got a ways to go. Still a large number of morons totally asleep. But good on Joe for stepping up on his platform to say the important parts out loud.
If people as huge as Joe would take a stand the easily manipulated and influenced people will wake up sooner. Honestly a lot of people are like fucking zombies. They still get a vote. Those people need good leaders and it is probably the majority of the population sadly.
This is the zombie apocalypse
That would make things much easier
Kennedy said it 60 years ago out loud and in detail to the entire press. He got shot for that... it would do everyone good to listen to or read his words.
You can tell for a loooong time Joe has not been speaking his true mind. And still is not fully.
You can also tell that when he did come around to Trump, it was because he woke up and was like “holy shit”.
Probably after he cured himself of covid and they told the world he was just eating horse paste he got a taste of what its like to be on receiving end of the fake news.
He tells some truth and people listen to him so i figure joe is a good thing overall.
Ive always thought he was positive overall even when not serving our interests directly because he’s the only big personality telling normies to make their own opinions when the rest are literally issuing commands.
Careful Joe, fence sitters get fresh splinters in their asses. Glad to hear him coming along.
How is he a fence sitter? This type of attitude about shit doesn’t win anyone over to our point of view. People will wake up at their pace. Not everyone who wakes up is going to start wearing a Trump hat and quoting Q like it’s scripture.
Joe’s a self made multimillionaire who is curious and asks hood questions.
and just recently, the multimillionaire was referring to Q and Trump supporters as a CULT. I’m excited to see him finally coming around…but one episode does not make him a believer. I realize this will take time. Listeners and advertisers alike need to be handled gently. The next few weeks should be very exciting.
I feel like Joe has very obviously known this for years and years. Maybe he got “talked out of it” awhile back. Maybe it’s just now safe enough for him to say it out loud. I dunno. I’m glad he’s saying it though. 200,000,000 is a lot of eyes/ears.
Yup even if it’s 1% of his audience. It’s still 2 mil people.
I wish people would stop prefacing ostensibly pro Trump statements with 'I don't xyz Trump, but...'
Joe is learning, but he isn't awake, yet. When he says, "Look you dumbass retards...Trump is the best thing that has happened to us since the founding " Then I'll agree he's awake. Right now he's just less retarded.
Agreed
It would be much too jarring to his moderate audience if he just came out swinging like that. But its important that a huge media figure actually speaks about Trump in a reasonable light, because most in his position have absolutely shit on MAGA/Trump in every conceivable fashion and at every available opportunity.
Use of the same game plan that got President Nixon, except Nixon played into a coverup. Who ordered the break-in at the Watergate? To this day we still do not know.
Everytime i hear of Nixon I either think of Futurama or the Nixon and Agnew Reviews youtube channel lol cant take him seriously anymore xD
I don't hate on flat earthers. I don't agree with them. But honestly science, and NASA are liars/deceivers.
I think the publics understanding of space and Earth has been completely controlled. And controlled by untrustworthy people. In my opinion at least flat earthers don't just buy whatever is being fed to them.
There are some crazy flat earthers. But then there are just "conspiracy theorists" who have gone down that particular rabbit whole and came out the other side thinking the way they do.
Start looking into flat earth on telegram and soon you'll see a ton of stuff you've never seen before. Like Tartaria. A whole country that was around just a couple hundred years ago and got wiped from our history.
"Judah and Benjamin combined to become the Jews. The rest of them became Tartarians."
https://youtu.be/r2eqmTY2N_Q?t=498
And q.
He has good security just saying some ex mil ..maybe knows more than saying always but also friends w AJ so not sold on anyone
Lame. Nobody is perfect and that doesn't need to be said at all. I wish Joe would stop catering to the dumbest out there by first knocking Trump so he can then compliment him. It's so dumb.
At the same time though it allows trump haters to swallow the truth easier by acknowledging trumps not perfect but he wasn’t wrong. We can be right or we can be effective. I think he played it just right for his left leaning audiences and trump haters.
Trump haters aren't independent thinkers.
But I get that angle as well.
A dead man you say, Joe?
Basically this isn’t rogan “coming around” this is rogan “feeling safe to say the obvious”
Either it’s because politically we’re winning or joe just has enough money and security that he believes he’s protected.
Doesn’t matter tho: the Overton window is moving and cannot be reversed.
Joe's not "waking up" or playing any kind of chess. He's always been awake, but can't be honest about it because there are certain truths the public is not ready to accept. So he knows what not to say at one point, and when to say it at a later point. Most public figures have this instinct.
Again, Alex Jones was right…this time about Rogan
He knew damn well. He has been friends with Alex for almost 30 years. He finally feels safe enough to talk about it.
"And they got it, with a dead man..."
Yoooo shots fired! Lol.
Joe, yes of course Trump knows what he speaks of with the Deep State. He rubs shoulders with DS and even hires DS (Acosta, Derschowitz, William Barr)
What guy is perfect and what idiot requires perfection in people? just looknwhatbtrumpmdid inthe past 6 years. Many of 7snwoyld be dead.already. .