Anything or anyone who has this much reach would be outed, humiliated, and/or dead by now. There's no way in hell almost 5000 posts were allowed to happen if they had any way to stop it. No way in hell. Logic 101. Come on, man!
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'all for a larp?' is the memetic kill shot as you say. Why so much coordinated and expensive effort for years to denigrate something that isnt real.
Seriously. And Trump would just flat out deny Q
He didn't flat out deny. He questioned. It was brilliant.
Why would trump deny Q when we support him? He loves his supporters, always has. Does trump deny his Jewish followers because they believe differently than he does?
Sorry dude, but logically approach this. There is still the possibility Q is a pysop to keep us contained long enough they get the control they want.
They’re not afraid to lie and pretend to be something they’re not.
I genuinely hope Q is an instrument of God, but to blindly put faith in Q is more than dangerous.
Compare our numbers to overall conservatives. We aren't nearly as many, though no one who follows q is a normie, but plenty of conservatives are still out of touch or watching fox news.
What I fear is that we’re the 6-10%…
Well we've been celebrating anything as a win at times, so I don't blame you. Not sure what to think anymore, but questioning is usually met by "If you don't see that we're winning, you're blind or a shill."
My opinion fluctuates as time.drags on and only nominal happenings are seen, and still no key arrests. Yeah some CEOs stepped down and CNN fired Cuomo and a pedophile, but we need to see a lot bigger things to consider ourselves truly winning. Not a vaxxed military, police chiefs stepping down "due to conscience" allowing commies to get appointed.
This will drag on whether white hats are in control or not. Audits are leading nowhere.
Exactly. We call everything a win. Basically giving ourselves participation trophy’s. If trump wins a case it is a win, if he loses, it is a win. Convenient. Strange how much complaining there is around here about given all of the “winning” we are doing.
We COULD win if we could have this conversation.
But every attempt by anyone here is downvoted to hell and sometimes even banned for buzzkilling hopium, it's an actual sidebar rule.
Many of the people who wanted this discussion and who didn't necessarily want to give up Q, actually not at ALL - most merely wanted to use the discussion to strengthen us... have left this board and are on Telegram and other places now.
Exactly! Critical thinking is what got most of us here. If we stop using our God-given brains to analyze, we may as well give up.
In any case, winning or losing, it is always good to get one's self in shape and prepping/planning a bit regardless.
I can’t stress how much I pray that there is a plan, Q and Trump are instruments of God.
I love my family too much to not consider the alternatives.
Don’t give up faith in God. Just don’t be blinded and distracted by pure hope.
Whether or not Q is white hat, I 100% believe there are white hats out there fighting the good fight. We have to become the strongest version of ourselves as well. God wins.
with certainty. Q seems like our best non-violent option.
I pray every night before bed about a variety of topics. But one I keep returning to, is for Q, the white hats, and all us pedes to be the instrument God uses to smash this evil cabal.
It’s tough watching a shadow war because what we know rounds down to zero. I’m amused when someone posts a good decode and some think they should keep it private because the DS may see, or get it to Trump because he needs to see.
It’s like we’re watching a sporting event from a mile away. We have a faint idea that something big happens now and then, but are otherwise clueless. The two sides duking it out in the shadows know 10^6 more than we do.
Whether or not Q is white hat, I 100% believe in the yin and Yang concept. And for every shadow black hat, I believe there is a shadow white hat. That this is a shadow war, not a shadow beat down.
i'm pretty active on 2 diff chats.
1 has been a pro Trump n PRO Q from the beginning, 2015. i'd say we're pretty much ALL boomers . we post info everywhere where we're not ban, send out emails etc. i'm thinking that digital warriors r a wayyyy bigger group than any of us can imagine.
and i personally thx all of u anons for posting decodes, proofs, theories etc. w/o u millions of us would never know what we do know today! u r the backbone of the GREAT AWAKENING!!
Nope, Trump would have warned us to ignore Q if that were true. His relative silence speaks volumes.
I would've said this same thing a year ago. But here we are and Trump is still promoting a vaccine that is ineffective at stopping a virus and is actually killing or severely injuring thousands. There are also thousands that are losing their jobs because they are refusing it. Yet he is still promoting the vaccine?
I also question him because we are here well over a year later, and nothing has changed. Things continue to get worse. If the Military was too swamp and wouldn't listen to him, why didn't Trump call on the American people to rise up? Why didn't he call on us to take up arms as a militia and take back our country? As of right now based on the information we have, he failed his duty to the Constitution as Commander in Chief. And don't give me excuses about how we wouldn't be able to win a hot war. There is a reason why our domestic enemies today employ 5th gen warfare (psychological, misinformation, confusion, etc), because they have ran simulation after simulation and they lose every single time against 10s of millions of armed citizens that are employing 4th gen warfare (guerilla warfare, controlling critical transportation routes, controlling all small towns, controlling food supply, etc).
Another thing that bugs me is Trump removed regulations from Wall Street, which was a horrible idea. Wall Street Hedgefunds and Bankers became wildly record-levels wealthier than prior to Trump. Trump removed regulations that allow Wall Street to run wild with crime, corruption, and counterfeiting essentially. And it's all about to implode our entire economy, likely sending millions upon millions into severe poverty/depression/hunger/suicide.
It's all very confusing because it's completely not like Trump as we know him.
Then again Reagan did some great things for the economy, said some nice things that we wanted to hear, and then began the flooding of illegals across the southern California border, turning California blue forever which has completely turned the state from being beautiful to a giant trash cesspool.
We need to keep in mind that Satan & His Banker Minions have been playing this game for hundreds of years. They plan their moves century or decades in advance.
Unfortunately I'm with you on that. Wish I was more optimistic, but it would work very well for containment. On other days I see the hand of God there. I flip flop a lot on this.
same
I agree, Patriots are definitely in control. otherwise we would already know who Q is...and we still have quite a bit of freedom.
Then why so much negativity about the current Whitehouse resident?
because it's a movie, and they're acting. people need to expand their thinking to 'see' what's really going on. Q is huge, they've been planning for decades, so things are not as they appear to be/it's an illusion.
So, everyone on this board who dislikes Biden is acting too?
no, they dislike the 'character' of Biden, and that's done on purpose to destroy the old guard. many people here think he's an actor/being told what to do. remember Q's post about the 'puppets'...
Your reasoning does not take into account one thing...
If Q is a deep state Psyop.
Trump would have denounced it. He never would have allowed his name be attached if there was any issue. Come on. We know GEOTUS better than that.
Most of us do not know Trump personally. Your argument is dangerous, because it attempts to shame anyone who doesn’t agree with you.
Right now the evidence leans either way, Q could be a white hat or a larp. I hope Q is a white hat, but we could be getting played and until it’s proven we’re not, it must always be a consideration.
Yes, but the point is that if we ARE getting played it is by Q AND Trump......If Trump is fucking us then we literally NEVER had a chance to begin with.
I agree. It must be considered. If I’m going to be sent to a camp or lined up against a ditch I’d rather see it coming.
I think Q and the plan is real. I say this for no other reason than Trump won. Trump could have stayed in his high-rise luxury penthouse and let hillary steel the election from whomever ran against her. We would have all been in chains within months, if not weeks. We weren't organized or informed or even questioned what was happening in the world. Most had never heard of the deep state. Comet Pizza would have been covered up and never made the news. Never mind all the corruption and pedo stuff uncovered. Because of Q and Trump, people are getting involved and doing their own research and demanding change instead of just accepting the word of the MSM. I have complete faint in Q, Trump and most importantly GOD because they are all we have left. I'm not worried about our future. God is on our side.
My argument is dangerous? You been on the liberal Kool-aid? INFORMATION IS power! Arguments/discussions intellectually furthering humanity. Hiding creates weaklings. Argue! Exchange ideas! Stand for something or fall for anything.
I am. You are blindly placing your faith in one man.
I hope he’s an instrument of God, I genuinely do.
No my fren, I am placing my faith in the American people. That was the plan.
My faith is in God.
People can let you down when you need them the most.
Why would he? We support him and he loves his supporters. He did not denounce Alex Jones or Kanye West. What makes you so sure that trump would intentionally alienate a large group of his loyal followers?
Q is militaristic, Jones and such are not...anonymous vs regular folks. Nope. Q is wayyyyyy too much info against them and it fired us up.
Fired up to “trust the plan” do nothing but convince yourself that everything is a win. Makes perfect docile sheep that are busy researching the information that Q provides
Because if he wasn't running it/had no control over it, it could be literally used to destroy everything hes ever worked for.
You dont give away all your power to someone you dont know because they say nice things.
What has he given up? Q has only made loyal followers for trump that are willing to trust the plan. From trump’s perspective there is no downside
If trump didnt know who was running Q that's a MASSIVE risk. What if it was his enemies trying to create controlled opposition? Would it be wise then for him not to condemn it ASAP to prevent them from killing him off and controlling his movement through Q?
the deep state psy op never made sense ro me. Why would the create a massive group that is 100% against the deep state? Why tell us to research on our own?
If it were to start a civil war, Q wouldnt have denounced violence and would have made calls for war.
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the pacification op is a non starter. The group that follows Q wouldnt have risen up and taken arms against the government. Personally I dont believe this war will go hot unless they try to take our guns, try to send us to camps, or shut us out of banking making us destitute. This woupd happen with or without Q
My statement was simply a direct answer to the main argument that "proves Q is real". But since you commented.
Before Q, there was already a building movement against the Deep State. What better way to control that movement than a Q psyop "Everything is under control, follow the plan". A Q psyop would push the group away from Civil War, again "The Plan". Once they get to the point of disarming us it will be to late for a hot war, they would have full control over us. We are now in a position were we can only react, they will always be a step or two ahead of our reactions.
Once again this is if there are no White Hats and no Q.
I just dont believe the Q is a deep state psy op theory has any more legs than q is a basement dwelling internet troll. Both are logically flawed theories.
I dont think if there was no q the war woild have gone hot by now. If a small fringe group got violent they would be taken out fast. The massrs arent in for war, they have shown that as they comply with every mandate down to the mayoral level.
I think the only logical argument is that the Q team is what they say. The only concern I have ever had is if the white hats lost the war.
I am not pushing that Q is a psyop.
But the intro statement of "proof that Q is real because..." can be challenged by my simple statement.
It therefore is not "proof" of anything.
I am not judging your belief here. You are playing devil's advocate. I am debating that I don't believe a Q DS psyop makes logical sense. Therefore removing it as an option. If it was a DS psyop they made a yuuuge miscalculation. Once they figured it out, they would not have ended the drops the way it ended, they would have twisted it into something else. They also wouldn't have put out so much info against themselves.
If I can discredit the psy op enough it further proves OP's statement.
If Q was a psy op it would have to be orchestrated by Trump or Trump allies. Which if true would mean it was an orchestrated effort by a group trying to overturn the cabal that may or may not have been military intelligence. This is an interesting theory to me, but I still don't buy it.
Anyway, my purpose was to debate and logically disprove the DS psy op narrative, not to attack you in any way.
I like these debates. We can lend our opinions and all learn. It's all good!
I agree, it's these debates are a lot different here than on voat. On voat it would be less information and opinion and more fuck you and faggots throughout. :) while the other is fun in short spurts, I like it better here.
If the white hats lose, I suspect a sizable number of Americans won't stand for it. There's a good chance it'll be 1776 again with an army of 80+ million armed patriots. It would be chaotic and horrific and I hope it doesn't come to that.
at some point yes, but it would take some kind of action from the deep state that would trigger the masses. Forced jabs, gun confiscation, concentration camps. The cabal knows this, that is the problem they will go back to the slow drip and slowly take rights away, I don't think they will full on trigger us to war unless they are on the brink of losing everything, otherwise if the white hats are out of the way they will go back to the slow road to communism, probably via republicans for a little while.
Considering where we're at, are you sure about this? I feel like people losing their jobs and being ostracized for their Vax status would make people fight
Exactly this. The main message of Q is to trust the plan. Just be a good little quiet citizen and politely trust the plan. Must have the deep state quaking in their boots.
That’s the Operation Trust 2.0 scenario…
Well said. It stops people from getting agitated and has sews division.
Trump becoming president clearly polarized the country. Some people were polarized left and it has helped the ushering in of the NWO, but some people were polarized to the right, and then there were the people who already were aware of deep state, the vaccine scam.
What better thing for the deep state to do than to allow Trump to become president to get so many people to take up the NWOs ideals, by polarizing them to the left.
But to stop the right wing from getting agitated you've got the Q psyop. It pacified alot of would be revolutionaries, and has sewn division in the red pilled community which is equal to reducing our numbers. Things like revolution can be Quelled by sewing division. Critical mass will never manifest, organization will never happen. Mobilization won't happen.
In Europe and Australia the critical mass was there, and the unity so there are massive protest.in the US you have the red pilled being told to stay home and let the govt sort it out, just watch, and "let us tell you what you are looking at'
If Hilary had become president those same people who are pacified by Q would have revolted by now. There would be a unified red pilled community that would not stand for such tyranny from Hillary fucking Clinton. Can you imagine if Q didn't exist and Hilary did all that to us???
If Hilary had been the one to put us on lockdown and mandated masks instead of Trump. And if Hilary had rushed 3 vaccines through saftey trials instead of Trump those same people pacified by Q would have stood up to the tyranny . If there were no Q, and Trump wasn't president it's not unlikely that millions of armed Americans might have taken the country back and started a full on global revolution.
Trump didn't fire fauci, but fauci paired with Hilary would have been way too evil for anyone to handle, or stand for.
Fauci starts talking about getting a vaccine in two years and America starts saying "no way, that's too soon"!and then Trump suggests we go with what the pharma execs suggest which was to take the vaccine that they invented in one day and they could have it tested and ready for production in just a couple of months Wich everyone said was way too soon. Fauci said" you wouldn't have a vaccine, you'd have something ready for trials. The soonest we can have a vaccine tested and ready is a year and a half to a year." And people suddenly thought that that timeframe was reasonable, and then Trump created warp speed to facilitate that, but imagine if Hilary had said all the same things and then Fauci made her compromise to just a year???
No one would have allowed that.
So there are Definitly different movies we could all be watching here, and it wouldn't be crazy or without cause if the one with Q is actually a govt psyop to Quell the revolution before it ever even gets close to starting.
At this point that actually is feeling like the most likely.
I tend to think websites like this are part of the psyop.
People get banned for bringing up different ideas. There is a narrative that has formed here at GAW about Trump and the vaccines which is total BS that does not match up with the actual past events but you can get banned for even arguing against it.
If you don't go with the narrative that formed here that has nothing to do with anything Q even said you can get banned for "dooming".
So dooming is a concept they've come up with that they can use to control the nearrative in forums like this.
Then you have people afraid to speak up or post something like this post even.
I'm only playing devil's advocate however presenting a very plausible scenario in a context where someone questioned what motive was there for the govt to create a Q psyop, but I could get banned for it or at the very least down voted to oblivion.
Either way all they have to do is slip in believable narratives into a for like this and then maintain it as the narrative by banning and negative social credit scores and suddenly you have what would be the begining s off an uprising but instead the would be revolutionist are controlling themselves for the deep state.
This could all Definitly be a psyop. I
Nailed it. This is some front page material here
Very good post. Healthy debate is good for all. Hopefully, one day we can look back on all this with a victory on our side.
It IS a psyop. Question is, who is behind it.
Some of your logic makes perfect sense. But I can’t see the DS slowing down their agenda (though that’s probably the smart play, but I see them getting impatient). Why would the DS shine a light on their own Luciferianism? Why would they want more and more free thinkers? I can’t understand these moves.
Unless Q represents a faction of black hats that isn’t as evil but still vying for power. When I discuss with people and they bring up this possibility I have no counter.
I had specified that in the case I presented that Q was a psyop to pacify a certain social group.
I've heard that narrative before
What do you mean slow down the narrative?
And what do you call free thinking? What you call free thinking is a ginger bread house. Come in have all the candy you want, but your getting kicked into the oven and baked like a cake .
If they can round up all the "free thinkers" into one false belief and then demonize everyone in that group then no one will believe anything they say as soon as the person mentions Q.
You can tell someone all about the govt agenda to make everyone get a vaxx passport and with all the compelling evidence, but the second you mention Q, or the flat earth all of the truth you told them will get tossed out while they laugh t you and dismiss the facts as nonsense just like the rest.
The fact that you don't understand these moves and so dismiss the notion
I admit most of GAW is not considered ‘free thinkers’. I’m thinking of those who attempt Jordan Hall’s (and other members of the IDW) exercise in forgetting everything one knew, going back to the basics, and only trusting information gathered in human to human interactions, as well as lived experience.
I don’t understand why the DS would shine a light in places Q has shine a light. Why would they break a group out of their programming? I believe Q is either a separate faction of black hats or white hats. But I (and everyone on this site) have no way of knowing. Time will tell.
Read up on controlled opposition
I know what controlled opposition is. Are you implying that the DS would create Q as a psy op? This would be monumentally stupid. So instead of having a fringe movement that they have no control of they create a massive group of adversaries, that are against them, that are told to research for yourselves? The theory doesn't hold water.
The theory I cant counter is that Q is a separate faction of black hats, but not as evil. If you have ideas to counter I’m all ears.
interesting. another evil cabal trying to take out the existing evil cabal. I have thought about this. Like the current cabal is the first beast, and the 2nd cabal is the 2nd beast. I have thought about Trump being the leader of the 2nd beast. We will know this is true if the death jab kills 30% he takes power and says it is good they are gone now we can create the world we want.
It is good to go down all of these paths, it means our minds are open to real thought.
Agreed. “Question everything.”
It does when you control the information available to research and tell them to “trust the plan”
but they don't control the information available. They control big tech, they don't control the entirety of the internet
They control the Q drops and that is what we consider to be dogma. That is a lot of power
the drops that say research yourself? Why would they say that? It doesn't make sense
Trust the plan
They would have, without the reassurance from Q that patriots were in control.
I disagree completely, Americans are too fat and happy to throw their current life away and stand up to fight. If they did the group would have been so small it would have had zero effect.
This movement has grown exponentially due to Q. There is no logical reason a deep state psy op would want to exponentially grow their adversaries.
People talk the talk, and say they are ready to fight. Sure many of us are ready with regards to weapons and prepping, but the reality is there will not be a hot war with or without Q unless they cross some major red lines. Not the kind of red lines that we discuss, the kind of red lines that the masses will see. Examples would be gun confiscation, physically forced jabs, concentration camps, etc. Until those things actually happen we will continue to wait for a non violent solution.
Sure there is. Complacency and tracking. It could be easily said that those sealed indictments are for us. And those red lines are happening already around the world. Gun confiscation is already on the table, and the red flag laws are the start.
What I am saying is with no Q, they would slow roll their plan as designed. There would be no major violent resistance. People aren't going to give up their families and their lives if they outlaw bump stocks. Being on the table doesn't start war. Red flag laws will not start war. War wouldn't start until mass confiscation or mass imprisonment of law abiding citizens for wrong think.
The one thing the DS is very good at is the slow road to tyranny. They would not speed up that road unless they were in danger of being removed from power. Sure there are a small group that might have done or do something with arms, but they would be quelled quickly. If there was no Q many would still be fighting for the turtle to regain power, the D and the Rs would still be looked at differently. The DS already had their controlled opposition, it was called the republican party. They have lost that now, why would they want to lose that.
At 20,000 feet the DS psy op narrative makes a little sense, but when you get into the weeds of it, it falls flat.
This is assuming that Trump was even part of it. He may have been chosen, approached, or used without his knowledge. He may have even just did things that made sense, and that is why the DS plans got sped up, assuming the DS/central banks have to reset their system every few decades at all costs. In which case they need to go ahead and accelerate because Hillary didn't win, and because she didn't win, they needed to come up with a plan to keep masses at bay. Look at France, Italy, and the rest. Even we aren't in the streets right now. Why? Because we were told of a plan.
No matter how high or low you look, all we have is speculation for either argument. I'd argue that there is no better time than now to drop all the info they have and make their moves. At this point the only ones left to still be fully asleep are the ones that would cheer the government purging us. The other fence sitters may just be swayed if they see the information.
true it is all speculation. I have tried just can't make the logical argument why DS would create Q. Unless it was a big mistake.
I am with you, I am all for dumping the info now and cleaning up the mess.
We are in the streets in NYC, where they are behaving like Europe, not to the extent of Europe. If we are complacent it is b/c we are fat and happy and we have guns. Just having guns makes us think we have power.
But yes, I am ready for this movie to end, one way or the other, either we win, or we lose and go down swinging.
Yep. Remember how often President Trump would say he’s not one to give away his military secret habbenings.. it would make zero sense to acknowledge the Q operation until the Job’s finished. Even then he still may not and I have a feeling we’re all going to be just fine with that.
True, yet at the same time one could make the EXACT same arguement IF this were a DS psyop.
Im saying that I obviously believe or I would not be here, but THIS is NOT proof of anything excect someone made about 5k posts.
Trump would have denounced it.
Agree with this
You have a point, I never thought about it like this............
didn't some senators try and out Q and were stopped by not having the security clearance to do so?
Never heard anything like that confirmed.
As I recall 3 senators tried to file a subpoena, I think it was in 17.
I concur. I mean look at all the sites and social media accounts they shut down. If the black hats were truly in power Q would be wiped from the “public Internet”, maybe not dark web corners but definitely the public side. So yeah, good guys are in control.
I look at what happened to lulzsec.
They were a hodge podge group of hackers having a great time going after huge companies. And generally not messing up too much real world stuff.
Q went after the US govt.
There was significant pull for political manipulation and yet Q has not been found.
Winner winner chicken dinner! This corrupt POS government would know exactly who Q is if they could...
It wasn’t for lack of trying
Watch CNN Jake Tapper report on the Q Group in 2013. There are also several articles written same time. Side note: Q group went off radar after DJT took office in 2017. https://www.bitchute.com/video/DZQnVMrmJHPx/
I know the Q group. Thx.
Yep. Been saying for a while now MSM would have doxxed q by now if it was just a kid like they claim.
Truinderdashdubbadapresher
Logic proofs are the best proofs
Ones that require no belief, faith, or hope
Like the OP
Like Trump the All-Time King of Revenge leaving office quietly after the coup without revealing the crimes of the deepstate and without conceding...must be up to something because we know his healthy ego is pinned to his legacy and GETTING EVEN
Like the day Q changed his 10-digit tripcode on 8chan (randomly comprised of upper and lowercase letters, digits, and punctuation)...
...posted the new one...
...and then TEN SECONDS LATER, Trump put out a tweet that just happened to contain ALL TEN CHARACTERS of the new tripcode...
...except for the letter q
Qeq I love that one
And like Trump, Scavino, Pompeo and Flynn constantly putting out messages with Q-cues in them and hinting at Trump's return...they would need to have suddenly become sadistic sociopaths to lead on their most diehard patriot fans this way if there were no Plan
Trump being quiet after leaving office is a big deal, I agree.
The one argument I can’t counter when brought up in conversation is that Q could represent a faction of black hats that is less evil but nonetheless vying for power.
Any thoughts on that? I’m sincerely interested because I’d like a response next time it comes up.
IMHO this violates any sense of logic or rational thought. Proof is simple as 1-2-3:
"Less" evil? Qeq there is no such thing for black hats. They're either maximally evil or aiding and abetting those who are.
Purpose of black hat psy op (stipulated to be evil) = demoralize, debilitate, destabilize, discourage your enemy; destroy their energy and hope; diminish their chances of organizing, coalescing into a force against you. It is impossible to point to any part of the Q canon that does ANY of that. Prove me wrong. :)
Further, Q goes above and beyond the call of duty in doing the exact opposite of that negative stuff. Consistently and without exception, reminding millions of patriots worldwide of God's and America's goodness, never injecting the slightest hint of doubt or weakening our commitment to patriotism, to President Trump, to smashing the pedophiles and deepstate, etc.
Those are some good points.
My understanding of Revelations and similar prophecies is that the church of the devil, the white of all the earth, will eat it’s own - and that will be a major part of its demise (though none greater than Christ’s return). However, those prophecies also mention things getting to the extremes - you’re either with Christ or you’re with Satan, no middle ground. A counter is that the separate faction is equally evil but has less to lose by outing certain Luciferians.
I mostly agree, which is why I don’t think the DS psyop argument makes sense. I’m thinking of dueling villains - one that worships Satan, the other is focused purely on money or maybe revenge. I’m not saying that IS the case, I’m saying I have no way to reason through that point. It’s possible the underdog money villain wouldn’t mind shining a light on Luciferianism to fracture the DS plans - it’s possible a black hat could do it out of spite, simply for revenge. I just don’t know.
This is harder for me to counter, but I think a spiteful black hat could still do something like this (though it’s unlikely).
Q as a white hat is the most likely explanation, IMO, but there is so much going on that we don’t know about.
Remember the Ever Given!
Well we haven't had any new posts for quite some time.
Food for thought.
"Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years."
That's a tually a better argument for Q not being what we think and hope it is. If he were really revealing information to the public he would have been ousted.
One.miight argue that it is obviously a CIA psyop to keep the red pilled community complacent and that's why he was never ousted
Nope. Trump would have immediately denounced it.
On what grounds do you base your opinion? On the grounds that there is a ton of shit he doesn't denounce or ever even talk about?He would not denounce such a large portion of his support group, just like Flynn wouldn't for a while.trump was always blvery careful never to embrace or even accept Q because the public would make a mockery of him. He also never denounced him because that is what he got alot of his support about.
The person I first met who told me about Q is actually highly intelligent. He absolutely hated politics, was not. Republican, but because of Q he became a trump supporter and actually voted for the first time because of it.
Trump never confirmed or denied it because it was both good, and bad for him so he tried to keep it without ever having to affirm it.
Flynn tried to act supportive of it because it meant guaranteed votes, but once the election was stolen, and it became obviois nothing was going to be done about it he started saying that " the people are the plan" trying to wake up all the pacified Q supporters to call them to action because he believes the "plan" is BS and has since gone on to say so. You can say he said Qanaon and not Q, but that was in passing on a phone call. When I'm talking to people, just like others here I will sometimes say Qanon because it's become common in language.
Trump hasn't denounced alot of things that if Q were true he would have and he's lost support and is losing support because of it, such as the vaccines. So he says I'm glad you didn't get vaxxed in passing on a trailer for an interview so people will worship that single statement and right off the fact that he ushered us into the greatest oppression and tyranny (besides slavery) nation has ever been under as a whole and has never actually addressed that except to praise himself for it .he has not denounced alot of things, so millions of votes are not going to be the first things he denounces get real.
Wow. Angry much? I do not expect to nor do I claim to know everything. This is one subject of countless. However, Trump would have denounced it and the rest of my post is as stated. Small subject. That is all.
Not angry. I don't know what would make you say that. I was just using your statement that what I said was ridiculous and using the same terminology as you did saying that yes it's ridiculously us.
It sounded like you were saying it was riding cous meaning that I My claim was in accurate when actually it was accurate. Just agreeing with you that bit was ridiculous, but it actually did happen and that is what's ridiculous.
"I don't know much about the movement, other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate," -DJT
Unless he's in on it the same way he's touting vaccines.
Not only is Q real and easily provable, but Q threads like this really bring out the shills and doomers with ease. u/#Coup
President Trump has never denounced Q. With all the stories and criticism etc online, labeling us as right wing extremists and such-he would have said “listen, idk anything about Q but it’s nonsense and crazy. Don’t get caught up in it.” Something like that. But he didn’t.
Why hasn’t this site been brought down? Why do I keep meeting people who follow it? Just hold the fukkin line, ok? And I don’t say it lightly.
Why would he? "I don't know much about the movement, other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate," -DJT
He would because he knows what the msm, the fags, I mean feds and politicians have been saying about it. Calling us right wing, violent extremists. I have faith he wouldn’t let that shit fester and not come out and say it’s a larp and for us to remove ourselves from it.
I respect your faith, but I place no faith in men, for that I need evidence
At this point it seems that Q is realer than my own being
WTF does it mean - for Q to be "real"?
Does anyone deny that someone (or maybe multiple people) posted messages as Q, and those messages have played a significant role in our current situation?
We also know from experience that Q messages have played fast and loose with timing - and in some ways it's like the Spanish language where the present tense is often used to describe something that's likely to be happening in the future. And Q posts have acknowledged that disinformation is sometimes necessary, so it's impossible to tell why certain details were included.
But still, there's a significant movement that acknowledges the value of Q's posts, and I find more honesty, truth, and varied and realistic perspectives within this movement and on this message board, than anywhere else.
I agree that Q is “real”, and I believe Q represents white hats.
The counter argument I can’t deny is that Q represents a faction of black hats that are less evil, but nonetheless vying for power. Thus, they out the Luciferians and cannot be outed themselves because they in fact don’t worship Satan - but are still power hungry. Sort of the gentlemanly villain.
If you have a counter to that, please share.
I am 100% convinced in the idea of opposition in all things, the yin and the yang, etc. I believe that just as there are shadowy “bad guys” we don’t know about, there are good guys in the shadows, fighting back.
Unless disinformation were necessary....
C'mon man. The only thing you've "proven" is that you're blinded by your own pre-suppositions. Obviously, you failed logic 101, and likely the rest of your courses as well.
Don't quit your day job.
Remember this my Frens. The smaller tje hoise you grew up in. The closer you communicTed.
Could be an insider game, q being the shepherd leading the sheep to the slaughter?
All the circumstances that allowed Q to be seen. Must be recognized as divine channels. They must remain active for as long as we can save that type of free community.
I was at my desk, lunch time 12:44 pm MST and was bored so I kept refreshing. Then the transmission came.... Yep still here.
I was perplexed at first, the suspense for those days till the end of the month drove me nuts.
Me too. I Quit drinking that first couple of weeks so I could concentrate on research. I think a lot of us changed that first month. It saved my life.
what 's funny is that we have this same conversation about every 6 months.
I was never a big 4 Chan person, so I did not start following it till about 2-3 weeks after the first post. I stumbled across it when looking into wiki leaks info and pizza gate. still not to sure if Q is good or bad, I just know that it is serious and should not be ignored.
When it all started I was days into being laid off so I spent a lot of time online job searching and on 4chan - lucky to catch Q just a few posts in. I remember watching early decodes on YouTube. Jerome Corsi was a big one till he went rogue. It’s been a wild ride and have no clue where this roller coaster goes next….
I started seeing references to Q in the comments section to Conservative Treehouse in January 2018. Then I was somehow led to CBTS on Reddit, and after that was yanked, Great Awakening(?) on Reddit, and when that was yanked VOAT QRV. I can't even begin to know how many hours I have spent reading and researching since.
Do you all think Voat was ended to bring the discussion to .win because it's a little more mainstream?
Voat was ended because the funding to keep it going was not there and the constant attacks on the web site made it impossible to run. The site was only kept up till the end of the election because of a secret donor that was not interested in it past the election.
ya never know where n when we'll reach someone... i was on CTH early on posting Q stuff n was soon banned for doing so.
I remember FBIAnon. I think someone provided info on CTBS. Seemed almost like a beta launch.
my journey sounds a lot like yours, including fbianon
Yeah, the ride has been wilder than I ever expected in the beginning.
I read my first Q posts in January 2018.
I'm still a believer and my wife is still telling me I'm crazy.
I bet I'm right.
Complacent. I never understood anyone saying that about Q. I've never been busier or more proactive in my life and half of us would still be asleep if it wasn't for Q, so nope. Trump would have been all over that shit to stop it. Using his name and all...
“Trust the plan”