I'm glad it helped you. I used it as medicine as well for sleep, but my body wasn't having it. Just be aware. I'm not saying it is bad, THC can be used as medicine. So this isn't an attack, it is just for people to be aware.
I know this one girl who injected over 38 bongs of marinaras directly into her jugular and her pancreas exploded... meat chunks everywhere... good thong she has two!
I think she was using one of those military grade reefers, she said the strain was called "dog fart cat puke". 1 bong injection I can understand but over 38 bongs??? Thats not safe. I am not sure how she did it but people should know the dangers of injecting too many bongs.
Never experienced this. I've been a regular Cannabis user for almost 20 yrs now. Consume THC multiple times daily with no problems. It's better I consume than not. Helps in dealing with chronic pain from a fusion of L5-S1, my anxiety/depression, and my PTSD, and TBI. Helps me even out to better control the rage problems I have. Family prefers me using THC than not. So does my psychologist AND my psychiatrist. Doc @ the V.A. agrees, too. Benefits do outweigh any potential risks or side effects. Without it l, I don't sleep due to the recurring nightmares and memories of me Navy EOD days.
Plus, I take Kratom to help minimize the pain in my back, hips, and legs. This helps immensely, too.
Never heard of the condition you've experienced. I pretty much only consume the flower, or bud, smoked out of a pipe. Don't do edibles too often because they don't work as well for me.
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it was the edibles themselves. They probably had a very high THC count and very low CBD count. The higher the THC level, usually over 70-75%, mixed with a low, or even 0 CBD count will cause severe anxiety, psychoactive behavioural issues, and will heavily alter a person's mood, though patterns, and can even cause mania (one half of bipolar disorder).
So, I'm thinking it was the near constant consuming of edibles that caused this issue.
Probably doesn't apply to you since it hasn't happened yet, but I've consumed THC for 15 years before this happened. And I wasn't an all day smoker or eating edibles every night. Every other night only at bedtime. Really strange...
Just letting you know just in case it comes on like it did for me.
There is no terpine or cannabinoid in existence that will do that to you. Period, end of story. The entourage effect will not do that to you. Combustible plant material will not do that to you.
You're WRONG and you need to look further into it, redditboy
"According to a study conducted by the Philadelphia PA, it can take up to 16 years before symptoms occur; the patient who experienced symptoms most rapidly was found to have CHS after three years of daily heavy cannabis use."
This is a fake as fuck syndrome dude. Wake up. Of course the pharmacy wants people to believe the cannabinoids cause any sort of the symptoms but dude the terpenes and the cannabinoids in the Entourage effect specifically are meant to Target symptoms such as these so there's no possible way in hell that they could cause symptoms that they're supposed to leave yet it makes zero sense. Think about how the medical industry doesn't benefit from cannabis in any way shape or form and then think of the ways that they might try to take advantage of the people that are getting sick from smoking tainted shit.
Not trying to fight with you dude but ive grown for 15 years and I'm a medical mj caregiver and I've NEVER heard of something negative that persists or is directly caused or attributed to thc. No way in hell man.
You are in denial. Are you seriously coming to that conclusion after searching around for it?
What you're telling me is that what I experienced was BS? That the doctor was wrong. That all of these people on facebook, reddit, etc in literal hell are BSing?
You're not very data or common sense oriented man.
That's a made up fuckin thing for when you get too high and get the sweats. It happened to me on my first hit of extract. I'm not saying it doesnt happen, I'm just saying the "syndrome" obviously was derived from you not being able to handle your weed bro.
Admit you've smoked once In your life, you had a bad time and got the spins, then you threw up cause you probably were drinking beer too, and then we can all move on.
You trust the CDC and then trust some made up "syndrome" that needed to exist so doctors could put a price tag on the treatment when you go into the ER cause you go in complaining that "your sick, and time is going by really really really slowly"
I never heard of it either until it happened to me. Even more frightening when you have no idea of what the hell is happening. I used weed for about that long too, it just happened all of a sudden. Just be aware of it is all I wanted. It really is something that all thc users should be aware of, and it is fucking horrific. Like one of the worst things I've ever experienced ever. Top 3 for certain.
There are stories about people going through this for YEARS, spending thousands on hospitals, specialists, etc. The only solution is to quit, which sucks, but that is the only cure.
Perfectly logical: i never even heard of anyone having covid that didn't seem to have a flu. Likewise i have never heard of your thing here. Both align suspiciously with existing nefarious agendas of control
Ok, so you're going to do libtard things like not look it up, use your feelings, and if you've "heard of it"?
Come on man, I made this post to help someone figure it out if they haven't. Or if they know someone who is having to problems to help them. Because most people haven't heard of it, which is exactly the point of why I made this post.
I really don't care if you believe it or not. Just be aware that it exists, good?
I get like this If I hold for too long or already coughing and trying to clear a bowl. I started walking outside to get better oxygen while i heave and ho like that. Only if i cannot breath through my nose will i blow chunks. Otherwise Elite tier breathing exercises. fo free!
and relax with the word addiction. there are only two things that anyone can really enjoy. dopamine and serotonin. we are all addicts to our own goo. what do you do for yours?
You shouldn't need to hold the hit for long (my lungs have been a bit fucked since birth so I can't do big hits, nor hold for long). The party weedtubers like to do that sort of stuff just for the image and the clouds. Most of the medical ones will admit that it's just for show and it's better to just draw, hold for a second, release.
Holding for too long is depriving yourself of oxygen, so you're doing the same thing as the "choking game" that went viral a few years back. You might also be swallowing some of the smoke which I've done on rare occasions, usually when I crossfade (drunk+high at the same time, I abhor drinking though and only do it on celebratory type occasions). Thrown up a couple times from that before.
CHS is more prolonged everyday usage to where you take your tolerance far above its norm (where you'd normally green out/weed hangover if you've been sober for a month). It persists and if you continue using because "I'm sick and need to eat but don't want to" it makes it worse, so you keep going on a downward spiral. I've got a post about my personal experiences with it on this thread.
holding is mostly for the oxygen dep, kicks off a little better on a "day" than a quick hit. ciggs do the most for the breathable depletion. i got the asthma too, i r very smrt, you see. used to live to get cross faded which is why other drugs probably never seemed worthwhile . give me a beer and a joint and the experience is far greater than anything else. the only death i ever came back from, lol. used to drink till i would blackout too and mixing would make it impossible to get that drunk.
this has me curious though as often i am "sick" in the am but i mostly believe it has more to do with the tub of frozen dairy my lacto ass decided it wanted to speed run before bed and not from the weed. if i don't go ape shit on the groceries i seem to be a lot better off in the am.
i do not think i am privileged enough to experience CHS, i can't afford that kind of smoking :p
How much weed were you eating. I've smoked multiple times a day for 40 years and I haven't reached my limit. Must be different than sushi, it only takes one of those to give me those exact symptoms.
Not everyone gets it, so I guess you're lucky. But just be on the look out if it does happen to you. A lot of people smoked for years before this happened to them. Being aware is all I want for users on here.
Seems like you’re body started rejecting it. As soon as it became legal in my state, I stopped caring for it. Really weird. I have a medical card but I’ve used it 3 times in the last two years. I still smoke every now and then but if it’s not around, no biggie
Good. Yes, it still did after I quit for awhile. Not the first hit, but after 3 days, I can feel it coming on. Just quit after it started happening again because it is FAR FAR from worth going through that again.
CHS is real, but I believe you are blowing it a bit out of proportion.
IF YOU ARE UNDER 25, IT IS BEST TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS AND OTHER DRUGS IN A RECREATIONAL SENSE AS YOUR CEREBELLUM HAS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND IT COULD ALTER SOME DEVELOPMENT, SO PLEASE STAY SOBER IN SPITE OF PEER PRESSURE. That being said, there is Druvet syndrome, Krohns disease, other digestive diseases, some nerve conditions, and a variety of other things that cannabis may help eliminate or would be better for use as opposed to some form of opiate/prescription drug, so parents should weigh their options for their children, and adults can make their own mind up. I mention this because I will bring up my youth usage.
In my young years when it was still illegal in my area I rarely used, few times a month since it was all allowance based/side hustles. When I hit 18 I decided I wasn't going to be mixed up in illegal things and was stone cold sober except for caffeine. I didn't use again until after I was 32 during that time it became legal for medical in my area and when I ran into some issues I decided to look into it. I had watched some documentaries about the subject and out of all the shit I put through my system in my rebellious teen years it was the one thing that made me happy and hungry, my idols were all advocates for it and even though they talked about coke/meth/etc they never advocated for those, only weed.
I'm always a nighttime consumer, as I work during the day and never believe in working under the influence unless it's something I have to do at home on the computer. Even on the weekends I still just consume at night as I use for medical reasons, the recreational sides are just a benefit. After the first couple years of consuming I went from a few times a week to daily consumption. When I first encountered it, I thought I just "greened out" (weed hangover) or had a nasty cold. Would wake up groggy, headache. Still kept consuming. Couple days later no improvement. Then I woke up and felt pretty bad and after a few hours of being awake I threw up. After the second day of that happening, I decided I was going to quit consuming for a bit as I knew my tolerance was already very high and it wasn't helping me in the way that it should.
That's when I began to research and found out about CHS. I've never heard of it being permanent. Joe Rogan claims a friend of his ate an edible and was never the same. These things may be true, but I've never seen any studies that show that. I know it's illegal in America and nearly impossible to study due to its schedule 1 status, but Israel is at the forefront of cannabis studies and trials. I don't recall ever reading about any deaths, most of the reports I read just involved going in for hospitalization for the vomiting which causes dehydration. If I'm vomiting for more than 3 days in a row it's time for me to go see a doctor as I've never had a flu or food poisoning that has lasted that long and figure it's something bad.
As a daily medical user for many years, I'll usually do a couple of weeks tolerance break every 4-5 months. I'll take vacation at the same time. As my tolerance resets my edible tolerance will go from ~60mg back down to ~20mg, then it gradually builds back up, that's when I decide it's time for a break again. Tolerance varies person to person. This break saves me money because I'm consuming less, also stops me from experiencing CHS, which sneaks up and gradually gets worse. I'm not one of those sorts that takes weed everywhere, it goes from dispensary to my home to my body.
I believe federal legalization will help on the diagnosis and educational front. People are still afraid to talk to corporate/gov/doctors about their weed consumption because of the legal stigma. If deaths do actually happen, I suspect this is the main culprit. Ignorance and bashfulness about being open with doctors.
My favorite weedtuber Josh/Straincentral covered the topic as well as a few others in the weedtube arena. Youtube then banned a whole lot of them, but restored some of them including Straincentral. So another reason BigTech is asshoe.
I know people are skeptical. But it is permanent. Not right away or one hit after detox, but you will get it way easier once you go through the symptoms. I tried it multiple times, and like clockwork, it would come back within a week or so if I continued to use.
You can look at the subreddit and search around. Many people have gone through it, went back to weed, and got it again and again.
Not enough research on it yet, but I bet it will be researched soon because a lot of people are getting it. Not as common as cancer, but it does need to be mainstream.
I just put this here for awareness in case it might help someone. Obviously it isn't glaringly common, but it does happen regularly. Especially in legalized states.
I read somewhere many of the effects of cannabinoids and endocannabinoids are mediated by two G protein-coupled receptors (GPCRs), CB(1) and CB(2), although additional receptors may be involved. CB(1) receptors are present in very high levels in several brain regions and in lower amounts in a more widespread fashion. Without getting too deeply, there are medicinal properties of cannabinoids having low THC levels that are very beneficial to epileptics.
Of course all medicines should be used very sparingly and with vigilance. If you think of optimal balance, the human body always attempts to achieve this. It will continue to achieve optimal balance under the influence of a medicine or drug.
One example of this is steroid use. It is well known that anabolic steroids mimic testosterone and long term use causes reduced testosterone production. The condition can be permanent. Many body builders have found this out the hard way.
Another condition is called Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS). Finasteride is marketed with the brand names Propecia and Proscar for treatment in men with male pattern hair loss and prostate issues. Use of finasteride works by decreasing the amount of the hormone dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in your body. DHT is a metabolite of testosterone. It has similar but much stronger effects. DHT is estimated to be three to six times more powerful than testosterone. Both hormones are classified as androgens.
Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) acts in many ways as steroids do and is often a permanent infliction in which causes reduced testosterone levels. Many individuals have to receive testosterone drugs for the rest of their lives.
The condition in the human body is always one of optimal balance. Alcoholics suffer from years of abuse whereby dopamine production becomes exhausted.
Cannabinoid Hypermesis Syndrome sounds like it may be a result of a similar infliction, in which optimal balance has been altered. The question is what has the Cannabinoid replaced in the body?
Alcoholics also have gaba system damage, which is the worst.
Not enough research on CHS yet to determine what is the exact situation. But the only cure is to quit, which seems like it fits because that is only way you can get rid of this horrendous shit.
Everything in moderation. I'd like to add that this condition only happens to a very small group of people but, yes, it can happen and the vast majority survive it. In a nutshell, it's not for everyone.
You also need to consider who you get your product from and the fertilizers/nootz that are being used. Organically-grown product is a better option and is readily available in most legal states. If you can, grow your own. A lot of companies/amateur growers only care about profit, not heavy metals and volitile compounds. We know now that THIS is the real issue and not THC. Due diligence pays off, especially when it comes to what you're putting in your body.
I've been medicating with every method of consumption, from flower to RSO and edibles for 21 years. I've been around but I've never known anyone to experience this personally and I believe it has a lot to do with putting the information above into practice.
Abuse and bastardize nature and you're usually in for a bad time. I don't think you're crazy at all just a bit uninformed.
This is not about pesticides or cultivation method. This is purely from cannabinoids. And not everyone gets it. Looks like you are in the clear.
If it was about cultivation, how come different people from different sources get the same EXACT syndrome?
I don't think you've done enough research on the topic to make a statement that it isn't from THC. And it isn't only THC. It is from cannabinoids. You can get it from D8, D9, and even CBD.
"If it was about cultivation, how come different people from different sources get the same EXACT syndrome?"
Because a lot of people use the same methods and formulations/nutrients/pesticides all over the country. I haven't experienced this level of blatant idiocy here for a long time.
You have a blatant addiction and it is present in the way you speak and defend your God, Marijuana. Addiction sucks, so I can be understanding. But attacking someone for trying to inform people is bottom of the barrel behavior. Good luck.
I'll remove it. Just wanted awareness to help someone out, but seems like there are a HUGE amount of potheads on this forum not having it. Opened my eyes .
A friend of mine had this too. Daily user for many many years. Thankfully a doctor knew about it and confirmed it by placing them under a hot shower... For some reason it stops the symptoms and is used to confirm the disease.
If you smoke and are sceptical, hopefully you never get it - but if you do, just remember this thread
Another thing is the myth that higher THC plays a factor. Those who are really educated about cannabis know that THC percentage doesn't matter half as much as parentage, cultivation methods and terpine profiles when it comes to potency. Dispos hype THC percentage because consumers are ignorant and think that higher THC gets you higher.
I've had flower at 14% that slays and flower at 36% that hardly gave me a buzz.
And there it is, rearing it's ugly head. You're just a hater spouting half truths. Sorry, but your bullshit won't get over on me or anyone else here who thinks for themselves.
Hmmm...I do wonder what vices you have in your little closet. The important thing to take away is that your shoddy efforts here are fruitless.
Is this how you address everyone who calls you out on your shit?
You're doubting that this exists? You're doubting because you drug of choice CANNOT be this way? Dude, get a grip.
You're acting like I'm insulting your mother. It's a fucking drug with consequences, just like every other drug. You're acting like you're some king of pot and you know what is going on with this problem.You're just a pothead, dude. Let the scientists figure it out.
No one is perfect and I surely am not acting like I am. But this condition fucking sucks and it is more common than previously believed. This was only about awareness. Chill the fuck out bro.
What half truth did I speak? That this syndrome exists? Dude, quit smoking man. You are becoming filthy defending marijuana on the level that you do. Chill out.
I’ve taken care of this in the hospital quite a few times. People don’t believe it when I warn them. It’s true, and nausea meds don’t touch it. I believe it has its place in medicine, but OD on it and it’s like any other drug.
Thank you for chiming in. It is horrendous and unknown. I know the hospitals are getting upticks in this. I think if more people knew, could prevent a lot of resources being wasted. Most people have NO idea of what is happening.
Yea, mine lasted for 3 weeks. Some people are messed up for a year. People really need to know about this. This condition can really derail someone's life.
You smoked moldy/mildewy shit, chemicals, oils, fertilizer, shit that wasn't flushed proper, or bud rot.. you simply have no idea what you're talking about man.. Should probably just delete this and look deeper into your experience
Dude, what the hell is up with these potheads in denial about this condition that is well documented in medical literature with thousands of hospital admits? Addiction does crazy things to people, like your denial. It's all good. Hope u dont get it.
This is interesting because I’ve been going through this for the last couple weeks. Vomiting up green bile. Although I don’t use THC or any other drugs or alcohol for that matter, it turned out I had gallstones, I needed my gallbladder removed. Maybe it was a little of both for you. But I’m sure they checked all those things when you were in the hospital. I’m happy you’re not using weed. It can be used for somethings, but for the most part it’s just another thing to dumb us all down. God bless you. I’ve been home for 2 1/2 days now, finally able to eat without Throwing up everything
The physical description of Jesus is of absolutely no importance or relevance at all. Only a college educated intellectual thinks that a comment like that means their ego is right LOL
The story of Jesus and his message is what matters.
But keep smoking that pot! Big daddy government loves it when you do!
I mean, isn't it obvious that is what is happening with some of these people? I
Maybe I came off as an asshole, but this post was only for awareness. I'm merely responding to people.
When people come off acting like the way they did (only a couple of people), pretty annoying when they've never experienced it. We, including myself, do things that justify our sin. I'm certainly guilty of doing this as I'm sure you are too.
If you're consuming like they consumed wine back in Jesus' times, then I see no problem with that. But there is an all too fine line with addiction. I certainly hope that you don't fall down that hole, but I am certainly not judging you in any way. That is God's job, not mine. Just prayed a short prayer for you and your life.
Drugs do funny things to people. I have no doubt that THC can help someone in moderation, but clearly there are those on here just in denial about their addiction.
A lot of things enhance life, but at a certain point, it interferes. Hence, addiction. Truth hurts and people on here are in doubt and self-denial. I'm not here to judge anyone because I have addiction issues, but this post was merely for awareness rather than judging. But people just come out the cannon exploding about their love for weed. Amazing.
Listen, I'm not here to judge. This post was only for awareness. The thing that is crazy are that there are unmistakable potheads on here trying to call bullshit or are in denial that this is a condition, well-documented in medical literature.
Another guy trying to say that is about cultivation and pesticides without doing any research.
If it improves your life, then that's the decision you make.
That's a bullshit statement from Hell. Cannabis oil was the main ingredient in the Biblical anointing oil, a formulation that God gave in the OT. Jesus Himself also used this very formulation.
If ditch weed is from the dispensary, then you have it. Not sure why you're attacking me, I made this about awareness.
Sounds like you're defending your addiction. It's all good. I just want people to be aware of it because I had no idea of what was happening. And I had been using THC on and off as many years as you have.
This isn't an attack on weed. Goodness gracious... people so damn defensive of their addiction.
Yup. No question about it. Defending the addiction. It's all good, I get it.
Weed actually sucks if people really get serious. Yes, it does let you escape, which is why people get addicted. But it makes people absolutely retarded. Talking with some people on here, it is clearly evident they are not firing on all cylinders.
Yea, it is way more common than I thought. I thought it was rare, but apparently reading a study on it, it is way more common than once thought.
People are getting pissed and defending their addiction. This post wasn't about hating on weed, it was purely for awareness. Not knowing what was happening was fucking frightening. I thought I was literally on my last days. Awful experience. Don't want anyone to go through that if I can help it.
Cannabis cured my Crohn's disease, can't relate. 15 years in remission, no pharma no doctors visits.
I'm glad it helped you. I used it as medicine as well for sleep, but my body wasn't having it. Just be aware. I'm not saying it is bad, THC can be used as medicine. So this isn't an attack, it is just for people to be aware.
Glad it helped you though.
I know this one girl who injected over 38 bongs of marinaras directly into her jugular and her pancreas exploded... meat chunks everywhere... good thong she has two!
oh, that is too many bongs.
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How does one inject a bong into the jugular. Just curious
I think she was using one of those military grade reefers, she said the strain was called "dog fart cat puke". 1 bong injection I can understand but over 38 bongs??? Thats not safe. I am not sure how she did it but people should know the dangers of injecting too many bongs.
Ah yes, military grade. Had some of that myself when I crossed Blackberry Kush with Dog Shit (yes, it's a real cultivar) and created Dingleberry Kush.
"Hey bro, you wanna go behind the bleachers and puff on some dog shit?"
"Hell yeah my dude!"
Just say no to bong injections. Now gravity bongs on the other hand...
Never experienced this. I've been a regular Cannabis user for almost 20 yrs now. Consume THC multiple times daily with no problems. It's better I consume than not. Helps in dealing with chronic pain from a fusion of L5-S1, my anxiety/depression, and my PTSD, and TBI. Helps me even out to better control the rage problems I have. Family prefers me using THC than not. So does my psychologist AND my psychiatrist. Doc @ the V.A. agrees, too. Benefits do outweigh any potential risks or side effects. Without it l, I don't sleep due to the recurring nightmares and memories of me Navy EOD days.
Plus, I take Kratom to help minimize the pain in my back, hips, and legs. This helps immensely, too.
Never heard of the condition you've experienced. I pretty much only consume the flower, or bud, smoked out of a pipe. Don't do edibles too often because they don't work as well for me.
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it was the edibles themselves. They probably had a very high THC count and very low CBD count. The higher the THC level, usually over 70-75%, mixed with a low, or even 0 CBD count will cause severe anxiety, psychoactive behavioural issues, and will heavily alter a person's mood, though patterns, and can even cause mania (one half of bipolar disorder).
So, I'm thinking it was the near constant consuming of edibles that caused this issue.
Doesn't happen to everyone, but it is becoming more common these days. Glad it is helping you.
Awareness is all I'm getting at. It happens with any form of cannabinoids. Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/CHSinfo/
Probably doesn't apply to you since it hasn't happened yet, but I've consumed THC for 15 years before this happened. And I wasn't an all day smoker or eating edibles every night. Every other night only at bedtime. Really strange...
Just letting you know just in case it comes on like it did for me.
Stay off reddit and you won't misdiagnose your ailments.
You sir, are a fucking retard. Seriously man, stop smoking pot. Your fucking brain is mush.
There is no terpine or cannabinoid in existence that will do that to you. Period, end of story. The entourage effect will not do that to you. Combustible plant material will not do that to you.
You're WRONG and you need to look further into it, redditboy
DID YOU DO RESEARCH RETARD? DID YOU LOOK UP CANNABINOID HYPERMESIS SYNDROME? A simple entry in a search engine would yield you some education.
Talking out of your ass like a libtard. STOP SMOKING POT. IT IS MAKING YOU RETARDED.
"According to a study conducted by the Philadelphia PA, it can take up to 16 years before symptoms occur; the patient who experienced symptoms most rapidly was found to have CHS after three years of daily heavy cannabis use."
This is a fake as fuck syndrome dude. Wake up. Of course the pharmacy wants people to believe the cannabinoids cause any sort of the symptoms but dude the terpenes and the cannabinoids in the Entourage effect specifically are meant to Target symptoms such as these so there's no possible way in hell that they could cause symptoms that they're supposed to leave yet it makes zero sense. Think about how the medical industry doesn't benefit from cannabis in any way shape or form and then think of the ways that they might try to take advantage of the people that are getting sick from smoking tainted shit.
Not trying to fight with you dude but ive grown for 15 years and I'm a medical mj caregiver and I've NEVER heard of something negative that persists or is directly caused or attributed to thc. No way in hell man.
You are in denial. Are you seriously coming to that conclusion after searching around for it?
What you're telling me is that what I experienced was BS? That the doctor was wrong. That all of these people on facebook, reddit, etc in literal hell are BSing?
You're not very data or common sense oriented man.
That's a made up fuckin thing for when you get too high and get the sweats. It happened to me on my first hit of extract. I'm not saying it doesnt happen, I'm just saying the "syndrome" obviously was derived from you not being able to handle your weed bro.
Admit you've smoked once In your life, you had a bad time and got the spins, then you threw up cause you probably were drinking beer too, and then we can all move on.
You trust the CDC and then trust some made up "syndrome" that needed to exist so doctors could put a price tag on the treatment when you go into the ER cause you go in complaining that "your sick, and time is going by really really really slowly"
I've never heard of this or seen anything like it in 20 years of smoking daily w dozens of other daily smokers
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHSinfo/
I never heard of it either until it happened to me. Even more frightening when you have no idea of what the hell is happening. I used weed for about that long too, it just happened all of a sudden. Just be aware of it is all I wanted. It really is something that all thc users should be aware of, and it is fucking horrific. Like one of the worst things I've ever experienced ever. Top 3 for certain.
There are stories about people going through this for YEARS, spending thousands on hospitals, specialists, etc. The only solution is to quit, which sucks, but that is the only cure.
Ehh i don't think covid is real either, seems like this is cut from the same cloth
This is retarded logic. You do you man.
Perfectly logical: i never even heard of anyone having covid that didn't seem to have a flu. Likewise i have never heard of your thing here. Both align suspiciously with existing nefarious agendas of control
Ok, so you're going to do libtard things like not look it up, use your feelings, and if you've "heard of it"?
Come on man, I made this post to help someone figure it out if they haven't. Or if they know someone who is having to problems to help them. Because most people haven't heard of it, which is exactly the point of why I made this post.
I really don't care if you believe it or not. Just be aware that it exists, good?
Well, in all fairness, reddit is not a solid source of reliable information.
Agree, but some subs are not about fake news etc. These are real people.
I get like this If I hold for too long or already coughing and trying to clear a bowl. I started walking outside to get better oxygen while i heave and ho like that. Only if i cannot breath through my nose will i blow chunks. Otherwise Elite tier breathing exercises. fo free!
and relax with the word addiction. there are only two things that anyone can really enjoy. dopamine and serotonin. we are all addicts to our own goo. what do you do for yours?
If that's how you like to imbibe, you do you!
You shouldn't need to hold the hit for long (my lungs have been a bit fucked since birth so I can't do big hits, nor hold for long). The party weedtubers like to do that sort of stuff just for the image and the clouds. Most of the medical ones will admit that it's just for show and it's better to just draw, hold for a second, release.
Holding for too long is depriving yourself of oxygen, so you're doing the same thing as the "choking game" that went viral a few years back. You might also be swallowing some of the smoke which I've done on rare occasions, usually when I crossfade (drunk+high at the same time, I abhor drinking though and only do it on celebratory type occasions). Thrown up a couple times from that before.
CHS is more prolonged everyday usage to where you take your tolerance far above its norm (where you'd normally green out/weed hangover if you've been sober for a month). It persists and if you continue using because "I'm sick and need to eat but don't want to" it makes it worse, so you keep going on a downward spiral. I've got a post about my personal experiences with it on this thread.
I was never taught the right way, lol.
holding is mostly for the oxygen dep, kicks off a little better on a "day" than a quick hit. ciggs do the most for the breathable depletion. i got the asthma too, i r very smrt, you see. used to live to get cross faded which is why other drugs probably never seemed worthwhile . give me a beer and a joint and the experience is far greater than anything else. the only death i ever came back from, lol. used to drink till i would blackout too and mixing would make it impossible to get that drunk.
this has me curious though as often i am "sick" in the am but i mostly believe it has more to do with the tub of frozen dairy my lacto ass decided it wanted to speed run before bed and not from the weed. if i don't go ape shit on the groceries i seem to be a lot better off in the am.
i do not think i am privileged enough to experience CHS, i can't afford that kind of smoking :p
Everything in moderation.
...including moderation." Better Oracle than Delphi
How much weed were you eating. I've smoked multiple times a day for 40 years and I haven't reached my limit. Must be different than sushi, it only takes one of those to give me those exact symptoms.
Not everyone gets it, so I guess you're lucky. But just be on the look out if it does happen to you. A lot of people smoked for years before this happened to them. Being aware is all I want for users on here.
That is so extremely rare it's almost unheard of.
My penis had Bell's Palsey until I did THC...
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Morris Day and the motherfuckin Time, yo!
Seems like you’re body started rejecting it. As soon as it became legal in my state, I stopped caring for it. Really weird. I have a medical card but I’ve used it 3 times in the last two years. I still smoke every now and then but if it’s not around, no biggie
Good. Yes, it still did after I quit for awhile. Not the first hit, but after 3 days, I can feel it coming on. Just quit after it started happening again because it is FAR FAR from worth going through that again.
CHS is real, but I believe you are blowing it a bit out of proportion.
IF YOU ARE UNDER 25, IT IS BEST TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS AND OTHER DRUGS IN A RECREATIONAL SENSE AS YOUR CEREBELLUM HAS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND IT COULD ALTER SOME DEVELOPMENT, SO PLEASE STAY SOBER IN SPITE OF PEER PRESSURE. That being said, there is Druvet syndrome, Krohns disease, other digestive diseases, some nerve conditions, and a variety of other things that cannabis may help eliminate or would be better for use as opposed to some form of opiate/prescription drug, so parents should weigh their options for their children, and adults can make their own mind up. I mention this because I will bring up my youth usage.
In my young years when it was still illegal in my area I rarely used, few times a month since it was all allowance based/side hustles. When I hit 18 I decided I wasn't going to be mixed up in illegal things and was stone cold sober except for caffeine. I didn't use again until after I was 32 during that time it became legal for medical in my area and when I ran into some issues I decided to look into it. I had watched some documentaries about the subject and out of all the shit I put through my system in my rebellious teen years it was the one thing that made me happy and hungry, my idols were all advocates for it and even though they talked about coke/meth/etc they never advocated for those, only weed.
I'm always a nighttime consumer, as I work during the day and never believe in working under the influence unless it's something I have to do at home on the computer. Even on the weekends I still just consume at night as I use for medical reasons, the recreational sides are just a benefit. After the first couple years of consuming I went from a few times a week to daily consumption. When I first encountered it, I thought I just "greened out" (weed hangover) or had a nasty cold. Would wake up groggy, headache. Still kept consuming. Couple days later no improvement. Then I woke up and felt pretty bad and after a few hours of being awake I threw up. After the second day of that happening, I decided I was going to quit consuming for a bit as I knew my tolerance was already very high and it wasn't helping me in the way that it should.
That's when I began to research and found out about CHS. I've never heard of it being permanent. Joe Rogan claims a friend of his ate an edible and was never the same. These things may be true, but I've never seen any studies that show that. I know it's illegal in America and nearly impossible to study due to its schedule 1 status, but Israel is at the forefront of cannabis studies and trials. I don't recall ever reading about any deaths, most of the reports I read just involved going in for hospitalization for the vomiting which causes dehydration. If I'm vomiting for more than 3 days in a row it's time for me to go see a doctor as I've never had a flu or food poisoning that has lasted that long and figure it's something bad.
As a daily medical user for many years, I'll usually do a couple of weeks tolerance break every 4-5 months. I'll take vacation at the same time. As my tolerance resets my edible tolerance will go from ~60mg back down to ~20mg, then it gradually builds back up, that's when I decide it's time for a break again. Tolerance varies person to person. This break saves me money because I'm consuming less, also stops me from experiencing CHS, which sneaks up and gradually gets worse. I'm not one of those sorts that takes weed everywhere, it goes from dispensary to my home to my body.
I believe federal legalization will help on the diagnosis and educational front. People are still afraid to talk to corporate/gov/doctors about their weed consumption because of the legal stigma. If deaths do actually happen, I suspect this is the main culprit. Ignorance and bashfulness about being open with doctors.
My favorite weedtuber Josh/Straincentral covered the topic as well as a few others in the weedtube arena. Youtube then banned a whole lot of them, but restored some of them including Straincentral. So another reason BigTech is asshoe.
His video about the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-mMGpF4k38
This ☝️
I know people are skeptical. But it is permanent. Not right away or one hit after detox, but you will get it way easier once you go through the symptoms. I tried it multiple times, and like clockwork, it would come back within a week or so if I continued to use.
You can look at the subreddit and search around. Many people have gone through it, went back to weed, and got it again and again.
Not enough research on it yet, but I bet it will be researched soon because a lot of people are getting it. Not as common as cancer, but it does need to be mainstream.
I just put this here for awareness in case it might help someone. Obviously it isn't glaringly common, but it does happen regularly. Especially in legalized states.
I read somewhere many of the effects of cannabinoids and endocannabinoids are mediated by two G protein-coupled receptors (GPCRs), CB(1) and CB(2), although additional receptors may be involved. CB(1) receptors are present in very high levels in several brain regions and in lower amounts in a more widespread fashion. Without getting too deeply, there are medicinal properties of cannabinoids having low THC levels that are very beneficial to epileptics.
Of course all medicines should be used very sparingly and with vigilance. If you think of optimal balance, the human body always attempts to achieve this. It will continue to achieve optimal balance under the influence of a medicine or drug.
One example of this is steroid use. It is well known that anabolic steroids mimic testosterone and long term use causes reduced testosterone production. The condition can be permanent. Many body builders have found this out the hard way.
Another condition is called Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS). Finasteride is marketed with the brand names Propecia and Proscar for treatment in men with male pattern hair loss and prostate issues. Use of finasteride works by decreasing the amount of the hormone dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in your body. DHT is a metabolite of testosterone. It has similar but much stronger effects. DHT is estimated to be three to six times more powerful than testosterone. Both hormones are classified as androgens.
Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) acts in many ways as steroids do and is often a permanent infliction in which causes reduced testosterone levels. Many individuals have to receive testosterone drugs for the rest of their lives.
The condition in the human body is always one of optimal balance. Alcoholics suffer from years of abuse whereby dopamine production becomes exhausted.
Cannabinoid Hypermesis Syndrome sounds like it may be a result of a similar infliction, in which optimal balance has been altered. The question is what has the Cannabinoid replaced in the body?
Alcoholics also have gaba system damage, which is the worst.
Not enough research on CHS yet to determine what is the exact situation. But the only cure is to quit, which seems like it fits because that is only way you can get rid of this horrendous shit.
Everything in moderation. I'd like to add that this condition only happens to a very small group of people but, yes, it can happen and the vast majority survive it. In a nutshell, it's not for everyone.
You also need to consider who you get your product from and the fertilizers/nootz that are being used. Organically-grown product is a better option and is readily available in most legal states. If you can, grow your own. A lot of companies/amateur growers only care about profit, not heavy metals and volitile compounds. We know now that THIS is the real issue and not THC. Due diligence pays off, especially when it comes to what you're putting in your body.
I've been medicating with every method of consumption, from flower to RSO and edibles for 21 years. I've been around but I've never known anyone to experience this personally and I believe it has a lot to do with putting the information above into practice.
Abuse and bastardize nature and you're usually in for a bad time. I don't think you're crazy at all just a bit uninformed.
This is not about pesticides or cultivation method. This is purely from cannabinoids. And not everyone gets it. Looks like you are in the clear.
If it was about cultivation, how come different people from different sources get the same EXACT syndrome?
I don't think you've done enough research on the topic to make a statement that it isn't from THC. And it isn't only THC. It is from cannabinoids. You can get it from D8, D9, and even CBD.
"If it was about cultivation, how come different people from different sources get the same EXACT syndrome?"
Because a lot of people use the same methods and formulations/nutrients/pesticides all over the country. I haven't experienced this level of blatant idiocy here for a long time.
As others here have said, you do you.
Keep being mad about the truth. Why so mad?
You have a blatant addiction and it is present in the way you speak and defend your God, Marijuana. Addiction sucks, so I can be understanding. But attacking someone for trying to inform people is bottom of the barrel behavior. Good luck.
Didn't read any of this jibberish.
You are retarded. You are mentally unstable. You are a disaster. Good luck.
Getting some off topic reports.
Site's full of off topic posts so I'll leave it unless the boss man wants us to start cracking down.
I'll remove it. Just wanted awareness to help someone out, but seems like there are a HUGE amount of potheads on this forum not having it. Opened my eyes .
No question. Alcohol is the worst.
Just as with alcohol, when you hit your ceiling, your body goes into overtime trying to get rid of the poison.
A friend of mine had this too. Daily user for many many years. Thankfully a doctor knew about it and confirmed it by placing them under a hot shower... For some reason it stops the symptoms and is used to confirm the disease.
If you smoke and are sceptical, hopefully you never get it - but if you do, just remember this thread
Yup, that is the test. Hot shower and if your symptoms get better, you definitely have it.
Top 3 worst experiences of my life.
Another thing is the myth that higher THC plays a factor. Those who are really educated about cannabis know that THC percentage doesn't matter half as much as parentage, cultivation methods and terpine profiles when it comes to potency. Dispos hype THC percentage because consumers are ignorant and think that higher THC gets you higher.
I've had flower at 14% that slays and flower at 36% that hardly gave me a buzz.
You sure love your THC!
And there it is, rearing it's ugly head. You're just a hater spouting half truths. Sorry, but your bullshit won't get over on me or anyone else here who thinks for themselves.
Hmmm...I do wonder what vices you have in your little closet. The important thing to take away is that your shoddy efforts here are fruitless.
Is this how you address everyone who calls you out on your shit?
Hater? What the fuck are you talking about?
You're doubting that this exists? You're doubting because you drug of choice CANNOT be this way? Dude, get a grip.
You're acting like I'm insulting your mother. It's a fucking drug with consequences, just like every other drug. You're acting like you're some king of pot and you know what is going on with this problem.You're just a pothead, dude. Let the scientists figure it out.
No one is perfect and I surely am not acting like I am. But this condition fucking sucks and it is more common than previously believed. This was only about awareness. Chill the fuck out bro.
What half truth did I speak? That this syndrome exists? Dude, quit smoking man. You are becoming filthy defending marijuana on the level that you do. Chill out.
Right. Not sure what you're talking about, but people who talk like you are not people I would hang out with.
I’ve taken care of this in the hospital quite a few times. People don’t believe it when I warn them. It’s true, and nausea meds don’t touch it. I believe it has its place in medicine, but OD on it and it’s like any other drug.
Thank you for chiming in. It is horrendous and unknown. I know the hospitals are getting upticks in this. I think if more people knew, could prevent a lot of resources being wasted. Most people have NO idea of what is happening.
Very true. Patients say a warm shower helps but it can last hours to days.
Yea, mine lasted for 3 weeks. Some people are messed up for a year. People really need to know about this. This condition can really derail someone's life.
"weed career" hehe
Lmao. #1, dumbass post. #2 not the right place.
#1. Eat a dick.
Reddit shill.
You smoked moldy/mildewy shit, chemicals, oils, fertilizer, shit that wasn't flushed proper, or bud rot.. you simply have no idea what you're talking about man.. Should probably just delete this and look deeper into your experience
Dude, what the hell is up with these potheads in denial about this condition that is well documented in medical literature with thousands of hospital admits? Addiction does crazy things to people, like your denial. It's all good. Hope u dont get it.
I'm not a pothead, you're just wrong.
BS, and evidence is from reddit? Where people love playing victim? Nah, there's nothing here
The level of denial is astounding. We laugh at vaxtards, but there are ton of people on here with the same mentality.
Sounds like you were just a bitch.
Sounds like you're a faggot libtard.
This is interesting because I’ve been going through this for the last couple weeks. Vomiting up green bile. Although I don’t use THC or any other drugs or alcohol for that matter, it turned out I had gallstones, I needed my gallbladder removed. Maybe it was a little of both for you. But I’m sure they checked all those things when you were in the hospital. I’m happy you’re not using weed. It can be used for somethings, but for the most part it’s just another thing to dumb us all down. God bless you. I’ve been home for 2 1/2 days now, finally able to eat without Throwing up everything
Glad you figured it out and got better! Yes, I am focusing on my relationship is Jesus and getting prepared.
It's good of you to warn folks. Glad you took the ultimate redpill (Jesus.)
Weed keeps people away from God.
Lol
One day you’ll realize that Gods absence in today’s society is the sole reason for the state things are in right now.
You’ll never come to that conclusion being stoned all day, so good luck
I’ll just take your word for it. Always love the arrogance of people who think they can speak for the supreme being that runs the universe 👌
There’s a reason why the bible doesn’t talk about Jesus taking bong rips all day...
Yeah because bongs weren’t around back then 😂 let me guess Jesus was a white guy too right?
The physical description of Jesus is of absolutely no importance or relevance at all. Only a college educated intellectual thinks that a comment like that means their ego is right LOL
The story of Jesus and his message is what matters.
But keep smoking that pot! Big daddy government loves it when you do!
You’re hysterical. I bet you’re an absolute joy to be around.
You know scripture? Be sober is in there. Just sayin.
I mean, isn't it obvious that is what is happening with some of these people? I
Maybe I came off as an asshole, but this post was only for awareness. I'm merely responding to people.
When people come off acting like the way they did (only a couple of people), pretty annoying when they've never experienced it. We, including myself, do things that justify our sin. I'm certainly guilty of doing this as I'm sure you are too.
If you're consuming like they consumed wine back in Jesus' times, then I see no problem with that. But there is an all too fine line with addiction. I certainly hope that you don't fall down that hole, but I am certainly not judging you in any way. That is God's job, not mine. Just prayed a short prayer for you and your life.
“I am destructive with alcohol, and weed helps me”
You have issues, not me.
And you just laid out how you abuse weed as an escape.
Your comment reeks of anger and insecurity.
Keep smoking that dope, it’s clearly solving your spiritual issues! LOL
Drugs do funny things to people. I have no doubt that THC can help someone in moderation, but clearly there are those on here just in denial about their addiction.
A lot of things enhance life, but at a certain point, it interferes. Hence, addiction. Truth hurts and people on here are in doubt and self-denial. I'm not here to judge anyone because I have addiction issues, but this post was merely for awareness rather than judging. But people just come out the cannon exploding about their love for weed. Amazing.
Listen, I'm not here to judge. This post was only for awareness. The thing that is crazy are that there are unmistakable potheads on here trying to call bullshit or are in denial that this is a condition, well-documented in medical literature.
Another guy trying to say that is about cultivation and pesticides without doing any research.
If it improves your life, then that's the decision you make.
100%
Does seem like there may be benefits to cbd oil and joint pain/inflammation but not getting high every day.
It’s absolutely denial about what they do and they know it’s wrong. It all stems from anger issues that they need to overcome
That's a bullshit statement from Hell. Cannabis oil was the main ingredient in the Biblical anointing oil, a formulation that God gave in the OT. Jesus Himself also used this very formulation.
The healing balm of Gilead is another.
This is true it was spelled differently in armeic Kanubus. And God did create all things including weed so if it works use it.
Kaneh Bah in Hebrew, I believe. I could be mistaken.
100% agree.
If ditch weed is from the dispensary, then you have it. Not sure why you're attacking me, I made this about awareness.
Sounds like you're defending your addiction. It's all good. I just want people to be aware of it because I had no idea of what was happening. And I had been using THC on and off as many years as you have.
This isn't an attack on weed. Goodness gracious... people so damn defensive of their addiction.
Lol not butthurt. I never ever smoked ditch weed bro. Actually, I did in high school
I don't care. This was a public service announcement. I gain nothing from this.
Ur missing out. Kentucky ditch weed rocks the house.
Dude, what are you talking about. I don't need to argue with you about anything, I don't give a shit. Enjoy your high. Shit makes you stupid bro.
You can tell how great dope is because these potheads who are addicted to it are shouting down at you for disrespecting it. They’re possessed by it.
Yup. No question about it. Defending the addiction. It's all good, I get it.
Weed actually sucks if people really get serious. Yes, it does let you escape, which is why people get addicted. But it makes people absolutely retarded. Talking with some people on here, it is clearly evident they are not firing on all cylinders.
you did attack him by acting as if the weed he smoked was sub par, basically shitting on his entire post. Don't be obtuse you know what you did.
then calling him cupcake in the next post. Re read the exchange.
If you arent having these issues simply state that, no need to attack OP.
I smoked weed for a few years long ago, never had any stomach issues either.
Yea, it is way more common than I thought. I thought it was rare, but apparently reading a study on it, it is way more common than once thought.
People are getting pissed and defending their addiction. This post wasn't about hating on weed, it was purely for awareness. Not knowing what was happening was fucking frightening. I thought I was literally on my last days. Awful experience. Don't want anyone to go through that if I can help it.
Had a friend whose teenage-adult kid had same thing - cyclic vomiting syndrome. All he did was live in the basement and smoke weed.