Everyone please note: regardless of what this may/may not reveal about Horowitz, there is a good chance that this is one of their "ol' reliable" tricks to protect the fact that we don't need the physical phones to rebuild the information. Other targets may have had second phones. Finding one, means finding them all. This little paragraph may be intended only to signal to the other targets that WE HAVE IT ALL.
But consider the possibility that Durham has used the “crime-fraud exception” to compel disclosure of information otherwise subject to privilege and to help elicit testimony. “Under the crime-fraud exception, communications are not privileged when the client consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud or crime.”
Isn't that how the law works though? From the Rittenhouse trial, I learned that the prosecution is legally compelled to turn over all material that will be used as evidence against the defense.
During the trial. These people haven't even been officially charged yet, let alone arrested and put on trial. Making strange references online to what evidence you have against them would not count anyway. It has to be submitted as evidence before a Judge and read into the official trial proceedings. . Until that happens, you don't have to turn over anything.
Yes, there are no surprises. At least, there shouldn’t be if discovery is done correctly/the parties don’t try to pull Law and Order shenanigans during the trial with surprise witnesses/documents/etc. Legally, there should be no surprises.
I don’t know if that’s how it works in military trials, though.
That's not how you prosecute criminals at a trial. If you have the evidence, you have the evidence. Arrest them and be done with it. You don't have to trick them into committing more crimes. We have the evidence to convict them 100 times over. Like Q said, they already have it all. The grasping at straws we do to try to make the littlest thing fit the Q narrative has gotten to be absolutely ridiculous. This is why no one takes us seriously.
The article lays out some hard truths for those willing to actually comprehend it. Past performances are a good indicator for future actions. Business as usual in the swamp.
When we stay stupid shit like White Hats are leaking criminal information about the Deep State as a warning and to try to trick them into making moves, yeah, that ridiculous. We are seeing things and making observations that don't make any sense. But regardless, I'm not embarrassed by anything you think. Just pointing things out. You do you and think whatever you want.
I assume that’s why the “found” the phones. Someone came to them with a come to Jesus moment and said give us the phones we know you have them, we have it all anyway.
Why else would they hand them over if someone isn’t forcing them to? I don’t think anyone is dumb enough to believe they are just handing it over for justice. That’s an unbelievable scenario.
Good grief. The Swamp runs extremely deep. I don't know how they sleep at night. I do not foresee this investigation ending any time soon. There are to many hidden in the shadows. Yes, I want this completed yesterday but what I want most is for the children to be safe. That is what matters in my mind.
To think that we've been interacting with full blown commies , loyal commies, in every aspect of our lives for decades.
I would suggest reading the first chapter of the book "The American Betrayal" to find out just how close they got to exposing all this for once and for all, and nip it in the bug.
How can anyone tell how far along Durhams investigation is?
Obviously you can't. So far any info about what is happening has been from Durham himself i.e. no leaks. That right there should tell everyone this is different than anything we've seen in decades. Recall Patrick Fitzgerald (re: Valerie Plame & Scooter Libby). There were non-stop leaks to fuel the news cycle. Same with Muller's Russiagate nonsense. But not with Durham, may be significant. It will either explode in all directions and start moving fast or it fizzles out to nothing, "After an exhaustive investigation we've concluded that...". He's done exactly that before, twice. But he also took down the corrupt Boston office of the FBI -
The fact that OIG has been covering up explains why this has taken years. Question is, whats the statute of limitation on these crimes? That would indicate the D-Day so to speak.
The longer Durham remains on the fence and time passes, more rats exposed when they come to the surface for a grasp of air. If this thing goes on, and the swap continues to drain, we will get to the mud rats, the deep insiders. Perhaps that is what we are seeing here. Perhaps there are not enough sewage engineers to plug the drainage ditches. Perhaps there are really no deals. Begs the question: Is there going to be anyone, not implicated, to serve up justice or will the American people have to resort to citizen justice? Certainly explains that often repeated Q phrase: "They are not going to be able to walk the streets." Best be mentally prepared because I think before we get to "the best is yet to come" we must walk through the valley of darkness, and we are not there yet, but the mother of all storm clouds is on the horizon.
I have always assumed that guys like Sundance and Cates are not as grass root as you might think, and are crafted for a particular audience. Like it or not there is a SIGNIFICANT percentage of the population that would never be able to withstand the ridicule of being connected to something roundly considered "crazy." They ridicule because it works. The true one percenters are people who think for themselves. Congratulations Qtards!
So they present the same information from a different messenger. Cates, for example, seems to be anti-Q in name only (AntiQino LOL). He basically toes the Q line based on "open source" information. Nevermind that he seems to be following every rabbit hole Q has ever pointed us to.
My fren and I have discussed this exact subject. How can Sundance be so incredibly well put together with the break down of complex subjects and actively shut down any mention of Q. There’s enough there easily to see it plain as day.
I suspect because Sundance was someone who learned how to read DS comms. If you just noticed it naturally it would be very exciting. You'd have be able to figure out things before they happen. I suspect he figured out enough to get a sense of where things were going from the news and their little secret symbolism. However, Q ruined all that and now DS comms no longer. Q took over their biggest comm which is "Q/ 17". That was one of their most important. Look back and you'll see they use it all the time.
That's one reason they refuse to call us Q and keep trying to push the "Qanon" label on us.
I think he's not in on things. He only knows as much as research allows him. I used to follow him, but I lost interest after his DC trip. It's clear to me he is not in on the "plan". A lot of his posts and digs just don't connect with me. When someone starts connecting the dots it's really great to get pulled in, but he doesn't connect stuff to me anymore. It's like there are certain truths he refuses to accept and it holds him back a lot.
Didn't he drop a name after the DC trip? What name was that?
Sundance is a realist. He realized Sessions was worthless while all of us following Q thought he was waiting to be “activated”. He has been pretty much right on all of it so far (that I have seen). This board has faith in Q, but Sundance doesn’t at all. He is looking at verified info. Very few of them, if any, have faced justice.
Clearly the standard procedure of DOJ did not work where they assumed Durham will just give up and go away. Considering how many evidence they routinely keep covering up, it must be very hard for them to keep track of all those people. I guess they contacted Durham only when Durham was on their doorstep.
Or. Since durham now has that key piece of evidence, then he alone has the ability to topple this house of cards. Is he going to be to scared to actually do it?
How disgusting that the "ultimate" justice force (DOJ/FBI/etc) in the world is absolutely corrupt and acting like a criminal enterprise AND have operated so for decades - all the while we never expected it.
They all say one thing behind the microphones but do the opposite behind the curtain.
Funny, it always seemed unrealistic to me that GB just gave up on the revolutionary war. Turns out they likely just moved to Plan B. You got to give these guys credit for playing the long game, if nothing else.
I try to remember that when I get frustrated. For the most part with the exception of a few lack of hopium hiccups, I get more and more comfy that we are on the right path to doing just that. Feels like the 100 monkey story was more off a comm than anything. They know they are losing control of the narrative.
On March 26, 2021, Trump issued a press release asking if Durham was a living, breathing human being. Funnily enough, indictments started pouring in soon after.
Everyone please note: regardless of what this may/may not reveal about Horowitz, there is a good chance that this is one of their "ol' reliable" tricks to protect the fact that we don't need the physical phones to rebuild the information. Other targets may have had second phones. Finding one, means finding them all. This little paragraph may be intended only to signal to the other targets that WE HAVE IT ALL.
And this was particularly heartwarming also
Except you don't typically tell your targets what information you have against them beforehand. That would just be really really stuipid.
Isn't that how the law works though? From the Rittenhouse trial, I learned that the prosecution is legally compelled to turn over all material that will be used as evidence against the defense.
During the trial. These people haven't even been officially charged yet, let alone arrested and put on trial. Making strange references online to what evidence you have against them would not count anyway. It has to be submitted as evidence before a Judge and read into the official trial proceedings. . Until that happens, you don't have to turn over anything.
"Judge" - more like a black-robed tyrant.
Ah I gotcha. Just sharing what I learned. That makes sense that it would be something that occurs WITHIN legal precedings
Yes, there are no surprises. At least, there shouldn’t be if discovery is done correctly/the parties don’t try to pull Law and Order shenanigans during the trial with surprise witnesses/documents/etc. Legally, there should be no surprises.
I don’t know if that’s how it works in military trials, though.
It's called the Brady Rule.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/brady_rule
Once someone is formally indicted, yes.
That's not how you prosecute criminals at a trial. If you have the evidence, you have the evidence. Arrest them and be done with it. You don't have to trick them into committing more crimes. We have the evidence to convict them 100 times over. Like Q said, they already have it all. The grasping at straws we do to try to make the littlest thing fit the Q narrative has gotten to be absolutely ridiculous. This is why no one takes us seriously.
The article lays out some hard truths for those willing to actually comprehend it. Past performances are a good indicator for future actions. Business as usual in the swamp.
When we stay stupid shit like White Hats are leaking criminal information about the Deep State as a warning and to try to trick them into making moves, yeah, that ridiculous. We are seeing things and making observations that don't make any sense. But regardless, I'm not embarrassed by anything you think. Just pointing things out. You do you and think whatever you want.
Unless you were trying to flush out and get confessions from co-conspirators, then you might.
Is that why the FBI issued a review of their nonrecord information and information expiry policy?
Declassified this month.
I assume that’s why the “found” the phones. Someone came to them with a come to Jesus moment and said give us the phones we know you have them, we have it all anyway.
Why else would they hand them over if someone isn’t forcing them to? I don’t think anyone is dumb enough to believe they are just handing it over for justice. That’s an unbelievable scenario.
Good grief. The Swamp runs extremely deep. I don't know how they sleep at night. I do not foresee this investigation ending any time soon. There are to many hidden in the shadows. Yes, I want this completed yesterday but what I want most is for the children to be safe. That is what matters in my mind.
The depth is astounding!
To think that we've been interacting with full blown commies , loyal commies, in every aspect of our lives for decades. All aspects.
Some sre obvious and known, but damn ...everyone?! Weird to think how many commie scum walk among us.
They've now really shown themselves. And more and more pepple are showing and revealing themselves the more desperate they become.
Pressure's on. Targets.
I would suggest reading the first chapter of the book "The American Betrayal" to find out just how close they got to exposing all this for once and for all, and nip it in the bug.
We are walking amongst pedos as well. To think we have commies in our government. It is crazy.
Its easy to be a communist when you are at the top of the barrel, getting all of the fresh fruit.
Obviously you can't. So far any info about what is happening has been from Durham himself i.e. no leaks. That right there should tell everyone this is different than anything we've seen in decades. Recall Patrick Fitzgerald (re: Valerie Plame & Scooter Libby). There were non-stop leaks to fuel the news cycle. Same with Muller's Russiagate nonsense. But not with Durham, may be significant. It will either explode in all directions and start moving fast or it fizzles out to nothing, "After an exhaustive investigation we've concluded that...". He's done exactly that before, twice. But he also took down the corrupt Boston office of the FBI -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Durham#Appointments_as_special_investigator
I mean this is a massive investigation. I see alot of progress.
The fact that OIG has been covering up explains why this has taken years. Question is, whats the statute of limitation on these crimes? That would indicate the D-Day so to speak.
We need a law pepe.
With 306,000 sealed indictments,
The longer Durham remains on the fence and time passes, more rats exposed when they come to the surface for a grasp of air. If this thing goes on, and the swap continues to drain, we will get to the mud rats, the deep insiders. Perhaps that is what we are seeing here. Perhaps there are not enough sewage engineers to plug the drainage ditches. Perhaps there are really no deals. Begs the question: Is there going to be anyone, not implicated, to serve up justice or will the American people have to resort to citizen justice? Certainly explains that often repeated Q phrase: "They are not going to be able to walk the streets." Best be mentally prepared because I think before we get to "the best is yet to come" we must walk through the valley of darkness, and we are not there yet, but the mother of all storm clouds is on the horizon.
I keep telling people to dig in. This could take a while.
Sundance won't allow any mention of Q, so there's no way anyone could post "We have it all." even though Q and the team do indeed have it all.
I have always assumed that guys like Sundance and Cates are not as grass root as you might think, and are crafted for a particular audience. Like it or not there is a SIGNIFICANT percentage of the population that would never be able to withstand the ridicule of being connected to something roundly considered "crazy." They ridicule because it works. The true one percenters are people who think for themselves. Congratulations Qtards!
So they present the same information from a different messenger. Cates, for example, seems to be anti-Q in name only (AntiQino LOL). He basically toes the Q line based on "open source" information. Nevermind that he seems to be following every rabbit hole Q has ever pointed us to.
IMO. We may never know.
My fren and I have discussed this exact subject. How can Sundance be so incredibly well put together with the break down of complex subjects and actively shut down any mention of Q. There’s enough there easily to see it plain as day.
I suspect because Sundance was someone who learned how to read DS comms. If you just noticed it naturally it would be very exciting. You'd have be able to figure out things before they happen. I suspect he figured out enough to get a sense of where things were going from the news and their little secret symbolism. However, Q ruined all that and now DS comms no longer. Q took over their biggest comm which is "Q/ 17". That was one of their most important. Look back and you'll see they use it all the time.
That's one reason they refuse to call us Q and keep trying to push the "Qanon" label on us.
Seems very plausible and I imagine it’s probably pretty damn close to the truth if not almost dead on.
No friend. That is up to you and you alone.
"When the student is ready, the master will appear."
I think he's not in on things. He only knows as much as research allows him. I used to follow him, but I lost interest after his DC trip. It's clear to me he is not in on the "plan". A lot of his posts and digs just don't connect with me. When someone starts connecting the dots it's really great to get pulled in, but he doesn't connect stuff to me anymore. It's like there are certain truths he refuses to accept and it holds him back a lot.
Didn't he drop a name after the DC trip? What name was that?
This is a tough pill to swallow. I thought Horowitz was based and a good guy.
I guess we'll see.
The last pat----Barr was the bondo and Durham is the paint----kinda POed me!
Sundance is a realist. He realized Sessions was worthless while all of us following Q thought he was waiting to be “activated”. He has been pretty much right on all of it so far (that I have seen). This board has faith in Q, but Sundance doesn’t at all. He is looking at verified info. Very few of them, if any, have faced justice.
His record is way better than mine, or any other Q (current or former) followers record. I'm done with the hopium and I'm on board with Sundance.
Clearly the standard procedure of DOJ did not work where they assumed Durham will just give up and go away. Considering how many evidence they routinely keep covering up, it must be very hard for them to keep track of all those people. I guess they contacted Durham only when Durham was on their doorstep.
Found this very informative link in the comments on that article-
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1486086381831131143.html
Edit- Archived it here- https://archive.ph/u5Cr9
The entire federal government exists solely to cover up the crimes of Democrats.
sundance is black pilling as usual
Agreed. Just think of all the indictments we have seen on the map.
To quote the article: Barr is the Bondo, Durham is the spray paint
The entire federal government is guilty.
Or. Since durham now has that key piece of evidence, then he alone has the ability to topple this house of cards. Is he going to be to scared to actually do it?
I would expect nothing less. It's a system, their system. A true paradox, one hand perpetually washing the other, yet the very epitome of dirty.
MARC ELIAS GRAND JURY TESTIMONY https://technofog.substack.com/p/durham-dnc-lawyer-marc-elias-has
How disgusting that the "ultimate" justice force (DOJ/FBI/etc) in the world is absolutely corrupt and acting like a criminal enterprise AND have operated so for decades - all the while we never expected it.
They all say one thing behind the microphones but do the opposite behind the curtain.
Wasn't it the Horowitz report that had Corney (CORNEY) instead of Comey (COMEY). We suspected this dude from the start.
Funny, it always seemed unrealistic to me that GB just gave up on the revolutionary war. Turns out they likely just moved to Plan B. You got to give these guys credit for playing the long game, if nothing else.
Well, they tried again in 1812.
After that, they probably decided they would not gain control via war, so they changed tactics.
I try to remember that when I get frustrated. For the most part with the exception of a few lack of hopium hiccups, I get more and more comfy that we are on the right path to doing just that. Feels like the 100 monkey story was more off a comm than anything. They know they are losing control of the narrative.
Durham needs to deputies 50 good men and start making some arrests. Like watching a movie in slow motion
If you're correct, why waste your time here?
That really doesn't answer the question though.
Are you here to convince us Durham is BS and Q is fake? If not, what's your ultimate goal being here?
But I agree. I've done the search for video footage myself and it's not to be found.
There's this video which is purportedly Durham speaking but it's a still image and just audio.
https://youtu.be/fs6Ud6biK3M
That video is linked in the article below-
https://welovetrump.com/2021/02/26/patriot-challenge-where-is-the-john-durham-video/
On March 26, 2021, Trump issued a press release asking if Durham was a living, breathing human being. Funnily enough, indictments started pouring in soon after.
I put my hope in God, and I'm ready for the devil to disguise himself as an angel of light.