Do you lift? I still have about an eighth of a cup of cooked white rice after lifting along with vegetables because I feel like I need a little more carb to build muscle. Maybe I should just stop doing that.
Insulin. Just from a muscle growth standpoint insulin is a big factor. Bracket your workouts with carbs to spike your insulin and you will see a big difference. Of course if being swole is not what you’re going for then it doesn’t matter.
Correct. Insulin gets more blood flow and amino acids to your muscles. Muscles that are in repair will grow bigger and faster because of that. Again, it depends on your goals. Timed intake of carbs will help people trying to get bigger muscles. If you’re trying to lose a lot of weight, cutting carbs helps because they are calorie dense.
It isn’t the insulin. Its the leptin uptick from coming down from insulin. Which you can up your leptin without spiking your insulin as well by eating high fat and a lot of protein.
It is insulin. Leptin does help regulate body weight and how insulin is used. But insulin is what gets more blood and amino acids(from protein) to your muscles which is what causes them to grow. If your goal is muscle growth, increasing insulin by eating carbs before and after workouts gets you there faster.
You get an insulin response if you enough protein at a time- approx 30g I believe.
Stan efferding adds rice to his diet to lift and you can definitely do this to gain weight. Otherwise you can get enough carbs from fruit and honey.
If you want to lose weight they say to lower protein and add fat because it reduces the insulin response.
That’s true, protein does stimulate an insulin response. It’s more balanced whereas eating carbs stimulates an unbalanced one. That’s why it’s good to have both before and after you lift. If your blood sugar is normal of course.
Low protein and high fat does work to lose weight, including adipose weight which is what most people are after. There’s lots of ways to lose weight though. You could eat 1 bag of skittles every day and lose a shit ton. You would also probably look like shit. Depends on the goal. Some people want to be muscled out and some just want to be thin. There are lots of ways to go about it. And IMO it’s better to track what you’re doing and adjust as needed rather than just doing one thing and rejecting everything else.
Calories in= calories out. So what if you eat rice or potatoes. You will never please food cultists. For example vegetables are fattening due to cellulose and many are full of lectins. Which is why grazing animals get fat on grass. You know when foods don’t agree with you. To me it’s more important to stay away from inflammatory oils- all seed oils. Exercise can increase appetite and rice is inexpensive. You def. want solid protein. But geeze you get justifiably hungry:) Fat fucks didn’t get obese on 1.5 cups of rice.
It's simply a fact your body cannot store excess energy as fat without insulin.
The bigger issue is your body can't use fat as energy when insulin levels are too high.
If you want to lose weight AKA burn off your excess fat stores, you need to reduce your insulin levels, either by eating fat/protein and avoiding sugar and/or intermittent fasting.
Insulin levels are high from diet sodas and sugar substitutes. Sugar substitutes do two things: 1) trick the brain via the tongue that sweet ( sugar) is being eaten and therefore release insulin to digest perceived sweet 2) the person adds calories in other ways because they are counting on the zero calories to level the playing field. Burning off fat stores is hard when the majority of people sit on their ass all day. People love their sweets and zero calorie sweets are the worst. It is as simple as calories in and calories out.
Fats, proteins and carbohydrates work together to give you your best body possible. Don’t listen to anyone who tells you that alll carbohydrates are bad. Do you really think broccoli is bad? Onions? Cauliflower? Cookies, cake and potato chips are bad. There are bad carbohydrates.
Productive Carbohydrates play a very important role. You need carbohydrates, a lot of protein, and a decent amount of fat in order to do the things you want to do with your body. I can’t believe anyone thinks “carbohydrates“ in general are bad. Holy fucking shit. That’s incredibly stupid, obtuse and ignorant.
I wouldn’t have a six pack today if it wasn’t for good carbohydrates. I need them because they are low calorie, satiating, and provide things for your body that protein and fats cannot.
They literally provide things that protein and fat physiologically CANNOT provide.
I can’t believe that’s hard for people to grasp. Different macronutrients play different roles for your body. You need all of them, in certain amounts to do what you need to have done for your body.
Cauliflower, broccoli and cruciferous vegetables are all low carb ketogenic foods. I eat more vegetables on a low carb diet than I did when I was on the S.A. D diet standard american diet.
You don't only consume fat and protein on a keto diet.
You’re not kidding considering that is a separate and unrelated point to mine because I am discussing interstitial fluid, not intramuscular. Nice self-pwn did you learn that at community college and thought you would flex lol.
Ffs pumping low intensity reps that do not exhaust the muscles after drinking excess water will have an increase and decrease of limb volume over the span of hours lol. This is why they make dudes lift right before shooting a scene in a movie. Which is not an actual increase in muscle fiber, just fluid retention. There is no relationship between what you mentioned and aesthetics from what I am discussing. There are no visual indicators of rate of glycogen replacement you fucking moron lol.
The body produces glycogen in the liver on-demand from protein you dumbfuck lol. It produces as much as the body needs. Nobody fat adapted has glycogen issues lol. Fucking idiot.
Cherry picking a single citation that confirms your limitations in broad understanding doesn’t make up for actual education and knowledge that sees a much bigger picture. Stop conflating metabolism with the circulatory system redditor.
I would just go with how your body feels. I consume a lot more carbs than discussed in this topic, but I definitely feel a bigger need for them before and after lifting sessions. I would suppose that if a mostly protein and fat diet were "normal", that some more carbs may just be a necessary adaptation to maintain that kind of repeated strain.
Don't stop. You're doing it right. Poster types a lot. Needs to focus more internally. Carbs are not the enemy. They are a powerful tool. To use at the right time. Demonizing carbs is the first clue someone is no where near their weight goal. And out comes the whole blaming of the carbs. 100% bullshit. Then all sad sacks who want to transform their bodies yet don't want to change their pathetic lives chime in.
It would be a more convincing echo chamber if Americans just didn't keep getting fatter. And fatter.
Do you lift? I still have about an eighth of a cup of cooked white rice after lifting along with vegetables because I feel like I need a little more carb to build muscle. Maybe I should just stop doing that.
Insulin. Just from a muscle growth standpoint insulin is a big factor. Bracket your workouts with carbs to spike your insulin and you will see a big difference. Of course if being swole is not what you’re going for then it doesn’t matter.
Can you elaborate?
This is 100% correct. The body uses insulin to usher amino acids into the muscle cells.
Correct. Insulin gets more blood flow and amino acids to your muscles. Muscles that are in repair will grow bigger and faster because of that. Again, it depends on your goals. Timed intake of carbs will help people trying to get bigger muscles. If you’re trying to lose a lot of weight, cutting carbs helps because they are calorie dense.
It isn’t the insulin. Its the leptin uptick from coming down from insulin. Which you can up your leptin without spiking your insulin as well by eating high fat and a lot of protein.
It is insulin. Leptin does help regulate body weight and how insulin is used. But insulin is what gets more blood and amino acids(from protein) to your muscles which is what causes them to grow. If your goal is muscle growth, increasing insulin by eating carbs before and after workouts gets you there faster.
You get an insulin response if you enough protein at a time- approx 30g I believe. Stan efferding adds rice to his diet to lift and you can definitely do this to gain weight. Otherwise you can get enough carbs from fruit and honey.
If you want to lose weight they say to lower protein and add fat because it reduces the insulin response.
That’s true, protein does stimulate an insulin response. It’s more balanced whereas eating carbs stimulates an unbalanced one. That’s why it’s good to have both before and after you lift. If your blood sugar is normal of course.
Low protein and high fat does work to lose weight, including adipose weight which is what most people are after. There’s lots of ways to lose weight though. You could eat 1 bag of skittles every day and lose a shit ton. You would also probably look like shit. Depends on the goal. Some people want to be muscled out and some just want to be thin. There are lots of ways to go about it. And IMO it’s better to track what you’re doing and adjust as needed rather than just doing one thing and rejecting everything else.
Thanks. I’m going to cut out the rice and see what happens. Might as well try it
Eric berg on YT has lost of helpful videos.
Berg is very good.
Calories in= calories out. So what if you eat rice or potatoes. You will never please food cultists. For example vegetables are fattening due to cellulose and many are full of lectins. Which is why grazing animals get fat on grass. You know when foods don’t agree with you. To me it’s more important to stay away from inflammatory oils- all seed oils. Exercise can increase appetite and rice is inexpensive. You def. want solid protein. But geeze you get justifiably hungry:) Fat fucks didn’t get obese on 1.5 cups of rice.
Intermittent feasting
Yeah, I don’t eat much carbs- but I see fat people eat a shit ton of salad!
Keto/Zero Carb proves a Calorie is not a Calorie and weight loss/gain is hormonal.
You can eat the same Cals with different macros and get different results assuming same activity level.
Since the olive pit is included in the making of olive oil, does this qualify as a seed oil? I know it isn't technically, but practically?
Yes. The OG sources for zero carb and carnivore say olive oil is also trash to eat and explain why. Even the really good unadulterated stuff.
It's not as simple as calories in/calories out.
It's simply a fact your body cannot store excess energy as fat without insulin.
The bigger issue is your body can't use fat as energy when insulin levels are too high.
If you want to lose weight AKA burn off your excess fat stores, you need to reduce your insulin levels, either by eating fat/protein and avoiding sugar and/or intermittent fasting.
Insulin levels are high from diet sodas and sugar substitutes. Sugar substitutes do two things: 1) trick the brain via the tongue that sweet ( sugar) is being eaten and therefore release insulin to digest perceived sweet 2) the person adds calories in other ways because they are counting on the zero calories to level the playing field. Burning off fat stores is hard when the majority of people sit on their ass all day. People love their sweets and zero calorie sweets are the worst. It is as simple as calories in and calories out.
You got to be a troll. Excellent work I got to admit I bit. LOL.
So I read in Men's Health that if I buy their magazine, I'll get a six pack!
Yes. Proof is in the pudding. 100%. Far too many people talk shit and don't put in the work to back it up.
Do you have a six pack?
No!
Fats, proteins and carbohydrates work together to give you your best body possible. Don’t listen to anyone who tells you that alll carbohydrates are bad. Do you really think broccoli is bad? Onions? Cauliflower? Cookies, cake and potato chips are bad. There are bad carbohydrates.
Productive Carbohydrates play a very important role. You need carbohydrates, a lot of protein, and a decent amount of fat in order to do the things you want to do with your body. I can’t believe anyone thinks “carbohydrates“ in general are bad. Holy fucking shit. That’s incredibly stupid, obtuse and ignorant.
I wouldn’t have a six pack today if it wasn’t for good carbohydrates. I need them because they are low calorie, satiating, and provide things for your body that protein and fats cannot.
They literally provide things that protein and fat physiologically CANNOT provide.
I can’t believe that’s hard for people to grasp. Different macronutrients play different roles for your body. You need all of them, in certain amounts to do what you need to have done for your body.
Cauliflower, broccoli and cruciferous vegetables are all low carb ketogenic foods. I eat more vegetables on a low carb diet than I did when I was on the S.A. D diet standard american diet.
You don't only consume fat and protein on a keto diet.
Cruciferous vegetables also remove excess estrogen from the body.
Yes not all carbohydrates are created equal. What is to be avoided is refined carbohydrates.
^^^This^^^
The problem with your statement is people will just focus on carbs, and ignore the fact that you are using broccoli as an example of a carb.
That’s not how consumers are programmed to think.
You do NOT meed any vegetable or carb ever.
The space you waste on them is an opportunity cost where you could have eaten more nutrient dense animal.
Plants are low nutrition crap bruh.
do you even lift bro?
Yeah I thought of that after I made the comment lol. Still not editing 😂
Yea. It is good to get protein within 45 minutes of your workout, so you can efficiently rebuild muscle.
If you are lifting and working out hard, some carbs are fine. Just preferably not massive bowls of pasta and loaves of bread
That’s not glycogen lol. That’s retained water. Literally just bloat. You carry around 5-10lbs of extra fluid on a carb-based diet.
You’re not kidding considering that is a separate and unrelated point to mine because I am discussing interstitial fluid, not intramuscular. Nice self-pwn did you learn that at community college and thought you would flex lol.
Ffs pumping low intensity reps that do not exhaust the muscles after drinking excess water will have an increase and decrease of limb volume over the span of hours lol. This is why they make dudes lift right before shooting a scene in a movie. Which is not an actual increase in muscle fiber, just fluid retention. There is no relationship between what you mentioned and aesthetics from what I am discussing. There are no visual indicators of rate of glycogen replacement you fucking moron lol.
The body produces glycogen in the liver on-demand from protein you dumbfuck lol. It produces as much as the body needs. Nobody fat adapted has glycogen issues lol. Fucking idiot.
Cherry picking a single citation that confirms your limitations in broad understanding doesn’t make up for actual education and knowledge that sees a much bigger picture. Stop conflating metabolism with the circulatory system redditor.
Check out keto and carb cycling
I would just go with how your body feels. I consume a lot more carbs than discussed in this topic, but I definitely feel a bigger need for them before and after lifting sessions. I would suppose that if a mostly protein and fat diet were "normal", that some more carbs may just be a necessary adaptation to maintain that kind of repeated strain.
You need Calories to build muscle
Fat is 9 Cals per gram Protein and carbs are 4
Eat more fat of you need Cals
Don't stop. You're doing it right. Poster types a lot. Needs to focus more internally. Carbs are not the enemy. They are a powerful tool. To use at the right time. Demonizing carbs is the first clue someone is no where near their weight goal. And out comes the whole blaming of the carbs. 100% bullshit. Then all sad sacks who want to transform their bodies yet don't want to change their pathetic lives chime in.
It would be a more convincing echo chamber if Americans just didn't keep getting fatter. And fatter.