737 fell like a rock
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Given the altitude drops while the speed stays the same, that implies no bomb, no missile, which would alter the speed at the same time as alt. No that looks more like intentional dive, either pilot goes mad, or remote control. A control failure is unlikely, like tail flaps, because that would have a changing effect not a linear effect.
Conclusion: remote or pilot action
Agreed on the first few points. No way did it fall that fast in alt but yet remain relatively stable with airspeed. Yes a rapid descent, but controlled imho. But controlled by what or who?
I think that is ground speed. Which would make sense.
The vertical speed was last indicated at about -31,000 FPM or 306 KTS downward. The ground speed through most the fall/dive was about 450 KTS.
Now to get geeky, if you sum the vectors of the horizontal and vertical speeds, you get a 544 KTS (626 MPH!!) actual speed of the aircraft.
I don't know what the terminal velocity of a tumbling 737 is, but I doubt its even in the ball park of 626 MPH. So definitely a powered dive.
EDIT: Calculating the actual speed from the horizontal and vertical vectors also gives us a downward angle (on overage) of -55 degrees, incase that is useful to our plane fags.
One hell of a rapid descent! Must be close to VMO no?
I'm not really sure you can rely on the resolution of that speed indicator. In any real situation the speed must have increased at the knee of the descent, unless the engines were perfectly throttled back to compensate. That straight line is too perfect.
Unlike the altitude which is reported in real time by the Mode-C of the transponder, velocity may be calculated from position and run through a low pass filter. There could be a significant delay from when the true airspeed changed to when it is displayed on the graph. We are talking a total time increment of only 5 minutes, and that constant output with a sudden drop at the end really looks like it is an artifact of the calculation.
It is ground speed - as indicated in the graphic from OP.
Yeah just noticed that in the graphic above, and I'm guessing its final descent rate of nearly 31,000 fpm!
So was its IAS 544kts like the post above suggests? Will check to see what its cruising speed is at alt.
maybe pilot had a vax-stroke and slumped over on the yoke? or maybe he had the fish for dinner and Ted wasn't on this flight.
hehe I still say "I have a drinking problem" if I spill a drink
Agree 100%. Airspeed is constant through almost all of the altitude loss. The odds of the A/C falling, after an explosion, at exactly the same speed as it was cruising at is not likely to me. 100% controlled dive thru 8,000 ft, unless the data is faulty some how.
Something happens at 7-8,000 ft tho. Maybe dove the plane low enough for ground forces?
Literally
WTF BRO.
Boo for newsmax. Upvote for excellent footage.
I see the problem. It crashed because it had no wings!
Missile or bomb. Even with an engine failure, they could glide for hundreds of miles.
not hundreds. there is a ratio available, I don’t know it, but without engines you don’t get very far.
Rule of thumb for a large plane like a 737 is about 2 miles per thousand feet if it is not turning. So from FL300, around 60 miles. But the speed would need to be constant. Somewhere between 200 - 300 knots. This was a completely uncontrolled crash.
Yeah I get that. Looks like they pushed the stick forward then took a nap.
But you'd stay in the air at 30,00 feet for more than 3 min as depicted by this graph, right....
Only explanation is a structural failure causing a very deep stall that was unrecoverable. If the wings got torn off, for example, that would cause the flight profile seen here. A missile or bomb would obviously be one type of event that could cause such a structural failure.
The video shows the plane going in completely vertical. So there was no glide angle at all.
Yep, even a gas like fentanyl being released into the cockpit, wouldn't turn the autopilot off. Something bad happened to that plane. They just don't come apart in mid-air.
It would be interesting finding out who was on board passenger-wise. Seems like a deep state murder plot. Being this happened in China, not sure if any info will come out.
The deep state has been known to murder many to get to one in the past. Seeing that it went straight down, seems to be pilot initiated suicide crash. Never heard of a plane crashing straight down as shown. Usually it glides forward until it hits the ground if the engines failed.
Pilot went nose-first into the ground. Remembered me when I played GTA as a teenager. Did he get hit by a SAM or something ?
So the outstanding question is who or what was on that plane that had to come down...
If car software can be remotely controlled to perform covert assassinations ala Michael Hastings, my view is that same approach would surely already have happened with planes, and probably much earlier than with cars.
More high value targets on planes, more secrecy over the control software, and more chance at a multiple-kill when you have for example the AIDS researchers that all died on Malaysian Airlines flight 17 in 2014, in advance of what looks like AIDS being induced by the covid vaccines. Which by the way was 'shot down' over.. eastern Ukraine... shaping up to be the 'broward county' of nations.
Eastern Ukraine was controlled by Russian separatists with Russian military equipment like surface to air missiles at the time of that crash. There was plenty of video of those soldiers all speaking Russian in that area at the time the missiles were shot from the same locations.
That's a conflict that the entirety of the fake-news now pretends doesn't exist by the way, despite all records to the contrary.. like the video you mention. Because otherwise there would be a casus belli for the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk. This is what happens when people are liars for long enough, they cant keep their fictions consistent.
Claims are that the plane was downed by a Buk 9M83 surface-to-air missile fired by russian forces. Russian testimony was that there was no debris consistent with the sort of damage a weapon platform like that would do to a civilian airplane. All the claims of russian involvement were led by Zelensky who had both motive to lie and cast shade at Putin, a demonstrated willingness to inflict massacres on his own citizens as we have seen from current events, and also it now appears he also had motive to kill AIDS researchers, given the biolabs and what they have done.
Tiger Woods knows how to drive...
abel danger +BUAP Corbett Report back in 2014:
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-975-field-mcconnell-introduces-abel-danger/
Field McConnell of AbelDanger joins the program today to discuss his life, background and investigation into the Octopus that connects Serco, the Senior Executive Service, Barry Soetoro, 9/11, MH370, MH17, the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot and much, much (much) more.
No idea if this applies, but are there crash & burn comms there?
It's a good thing that at least 2 cameras were set up and just happened to be filming in just the right spot to capture this.🤔
https://twitter.com/dhthakur745/status/1505898967665549314
The footage I saw of this plane crash looked fake AF to me.
Are there really people out there just recording passing jets hoping for a crash?
Plane watchers just love aviation. They're like train spotters. So they're just always out there where air craft go by.
Guangzhou is where the US Embassy is
Newsmax vid
Now the obvious question: who was in that exact position to calmly capture what is essentially a missile from out of the clouds? There's nothing else interesting in the frame to suggest anything else was being captured.
"7/10 plane crashes are targeted kills."-Q (drop 259, 463, 525)
Wonder who was on that plane?
Hmmm. Just done a rough calc in my brain, and it had somewhere in the region of a 6000'ft per min drop, maybe slightly less but not by much. That's a lot for a 737. Notice the airspeed only drops slightly from around 440kts.
Obviously this isn't precise data, but a mere indication. That thing fell out the sky but without accelerating much.
A bomb would have turned the avionics off, no more registering air speed
As would regular equipment or transponder failure to relay that data. There plane wouldn't need to be shot or even damaged at all except for a fried relay or something, especially since the speed seems to stay exactly the same. It's not possible to be involved in such a steep drop in altitude without the speed of the craft shifting a fair amount as well.
Unless the pilots were performing a split S that went wrong at low altitude, the only way I see a jet plane descending like that, is after having its wings blown off. No trailing smoke, NADA? Perfectly timed recording. I call BS. What high value target was on the plane? Hijack plane. Exit stage right Enter stage left, a missile or a fake video of plane crashing to coverup the hijacking.
If you look at the video, whatever that was had no wings as it went down.
Agreed!
https://nypost.com/ Anon posted this..Seems odd to nose dive.
Bad link? It's just the front page of NY Post? Or maybe this was on the front page when you linked/were linked it?
Yes that's the correct link that you have..☝️
Very odd indeed.
Have thought on this in the past..............two of those 737s went down...............so I refused to get on another one as I would not put it past the FAA & other corps. to sneak it back online & denying which one it is....