Former chicken rancher....our birds were always isolated, and kept clean, so disease & sickness never darkened our door...it is almost impossible to believe this bird flu shit knowing what I know ...
Another former Chicken farmer here. Owner of a "factory farm" that sent over 2 million chicken's per year to your table.
There are some serious diseases that can get into our operations. Biosecurity is very strict but you can't control the wild bird population from flying over and hanging around the ranch.
In the past there have been several large outbreaks of some type of avian influenza that have caused large depopulation events. Once your farm gets infected, the only solution is to kill all the chickens in place and compost them onsite.
Thankfully it never happened to me but a few years before I sold the farm several ranches nearby had to kill the entire flock, 300k-500k chickens all in one farm and compost them directly inside the barns and close the farm for several months until they could start over. This costs the farmer huge amounts of money and most can't survive going several months without getting paid. I don't think anyone is faking this.
When my father was still in the business there were cull numbers like this at big ranches almost every other year. This number is high but not all that unusual.
Hello Fren! Yes, you are spot on about the wild birds, impossible to control. My neighbor was a contract producer for Perdue, he never had any issues (worried all the time though), nor did we, thankfully. I couldn't imagine culling 300K-500K birds. I'm not stating anyone is faking anything, I just know how controlled we were and know that large commercial farms are even more controlled. The timing and scale of this all causes me to question everything. I feel for the those that have losses, it is difficult if, you can recover from for sure..
There is reason to be skeptical. I have heard that once a government veterinarian confirms the presence of high pathogenic influenza that the government takes over, not even allowing the owner on the farm until they kill all the chickens on site.
That is very interesting & unnerving at the same time. I wonder how a farm would fare that testing say if, they were in opposition to the current political party....eek....thanks for the info :)
Nobody’s faking it and also there isn’t gonna be a shortage of chickens (not due to this) the number of chickens affected is equivalent to like two days of American chicken eating this is just more fear mongering bullshit. I see the chicken ranch fear bullshit posted almost every other day here it’s sickening and retarded
Never name what you intend to eat. And, after tending to a few hundred, I didn't see them as individual anymore. They became a large unit. Only one or two would stand out, but by the time that occurred they were off to auction or another buyer. Occasionally, I would pull a few here and there for my own separate flock, but not often...🙂
I hate killing animals. I have never hunted or would I. (Fully support the right of those that do). Part of normal operations of a poultry farm include culling the weak and sick animals daily. I had 250k chickens onsite at each flock, so you get numb to it after a few years.
Hard to say really... I guess... But with all the fake news these days one have to keep an open mind about everything you know. But as you recall the Covid scam right? It's like the boy who cried wolf! Nerveless good insight thanks
The practices for health & isolation are basically the same for large or small producers. The turn rate is faster for larger producers, but the standards of preventing the spread or infection within a flock are basically the same. New birds are all isolated (stage houses) before being placed within or near an established flock, including new hatches. Sanitation is paramount with feed and water outlets. Most large producers isolate their premises from any public contact to further protect the flock from being introduced to any outside issues. It is a very controlled environment, that's why, I have difficulty believing a flu is running wild...Just my .02 on the issue...
Yes, they are all vaccinated at the hatchery (sprayed, goes in the eyes and nostrils) then vaccinated at least once again on the farm through the drinking water.
Yes it is the same. No such thing as a flu virus or any other virus! Can't transfer to humans as it doesn't exist...biggest scam ever. All ways to kill us ..if they vaxx with mRNA do they think we can get it? Myself I would think our stomach a IDs would kill it
The only thing I am hearing from farmers is feed is so expensive its creating a situation where they will either have to raise prices to compete with industrial farms or they will go put of business.
Or the fertilizer is getting so expensive it will greatly raise the price of crops or it will cause severe crop shortages.
This is all playing into the great reset. Once these issues take hold its not something that will be reversed overnight. It will take a year or two to stabilize.
And tnats not even considering what will be getting pumpped into the new fertilizer or feed.
That and the Biden adminitrations sanctions against Russia. That is the primary cause for both.
Its why I dont buy the "Russia is cleaning house" bit. Russia being there opened the door for the sanctions that are crushing small or independent farmers.
Basically, the same way Covid was used to destroy private business. Ukrain/Russia is being used to crush private farms.
The prices of chicken is going up also. Price of everything is going up. Heck even the damn dollar tree’s prices have went up to $1.25+. Yes $1.25+, my dollar tree is now selling things up to $5 now! WTH? I don’t shop at 5 Below but I heard they have prices over $5 now. Can’t get out of the grocery store without spending $100+, same at Walmart too.
Go in on a whole cow with a few friends or family members. It makes it much more affordable.
Also, people should reconsider mutton (not lamb). It's delicious, plenty of fatty cuts. Good for stews, bbqs, and if you take to raising sheep you also have access to wool.
There's a reason the sheep in minecraft are jokingly called "wooly potatoes".
The chickens in industrial situations might have illnesses. I agree it's suspicious and could be what you're saying, though. I think it's standard procedure to starve people and cause shortages to make them compliant to regime change. I hope pepes on these forums will let us know if the county shows up at their door and show us any fliers/documentation.
Always in plenty supply. Praise God. I told my daughter-in-law when I dropped off 3 new cases of canning jars yesterday that we may have to kill us a deer, trap some rabbits and feed on squirrel; which are all plentiful where I live. Her answer, "Shoo."
I told her when she runs out of meat, she'll eat darn near anything and like it.
Once it gets past your mouth (and your own inhibitions), it's all protein, fat, and carbs. Doesn't matter if it's prime rib, grilled cow placenta, or horse tongue, or edible fungus or rotted fish in a seal carcass.
Well...except for rabbit. You can starve on that meat.
Yes, it is quite peculiar how this so called bird flu recognizes state boundaries so well. The last fowl ‘genocide’ I’m aware of occurred statewide in Wisconsin and Iowa.
Brings to mind dozens of arbitrary rules we have witnessed in recent history. Way too many to cite. They think we all have jellyfish for brains.
Must be the government is paying a premium to the farmers to kill them off, that is why the farmers aren’t saying anything. We figured that one out along time ago. How do you create a famine: kill the chickens (no chicken, no eggs), weather changes will destroy crops, next the government will come up with mad cow disease (skyrocketing beef prices) and kill the cattle. Poor crops no feed for the cattle anyhow. No meat, no milk. Manufactured crisis. Introduce synthetic meat.
All kinds of avian flu warnings and culling going on in Canada. I’ve got a backyard flock… guess this is why they’re stepping up their gun grabbing efforts.
They have been faking us out with fake diseases for decades now.
Bird flu, swine flu, bovine whatever, AIDS, COVID, ebola, etc etc. Maybe hanta was real, maybe not. The medical industry is a Rockefeller scam.
Enoch 7.5 And they began to sin against birds, and against animals, and against reptiles, and against fish, and they devoured one another's flesh, and drank the blood from it.
The sick assholes are running out of human blood and are turning to drinking animal blood.
this avian flu is just another fake like covid bird flu,.,what they so is they create some disease in our food, like ecoli,.birdflu,.and the like,.and then its taken off the shelves but then theyre all trucked down in to the Elites underground bunkers,.thats what theyre doing with all these supposed diseased or infected food,.!
Actually we don’t hear from farmers on it because it’s not unusual at all for this many chickens to be exterminated, but dunderheads in the media are trying to hype up the fear porn yet again.
Former chicken rancher....our birds were always isolated, and kept clean, so disease & sickness never darkened our door...it is almost impossible to believe this bird flu shit knowing what I know ...
Another former Chicken farmer here. Owner of a "factory farm" that sent over 2 million chicken's per year to your table. There are some serious diseases that can get into our operations. Biosecurity is very strict but you can't control the wild bird population from flying over and hanging around the ranch. In the past there have been several large outbreaks of some type of avian influenza that have caused large depopulation events. Once your farm gets infected, the only solution is to kill all the chickens in place and compost them onsite. Thankfully it never happened to me but a few years before I sold the farm several ranches nearby had to kill the entire flock, 300k-500k chickens all in one farm and compost them directly inside the barns and close the farm for several months until they could start over. This costs the farmer huge amounts of money and most can't survive going several months without getting paid. I don't think anyone is faking this.
When my father was still in the business there were cull numbers like this at big ranches almost every other year. This number is high but not all that unusual.
It’s a blip, not worth the breathless fear porn.
I am with you.
I think this is showcasing the level of trust a lot of folks have in our kindly overlords, at this point.
Which is... zero.
There is the bedrock point. They can do anything they want with just a "blip." It's all in the promotion.
Hello Fren! Yes, you are spot on about the wild birds, impossible to control. My neighbor was a contract producer for Perdue, he never had any issues (worried all the time though), nor did we, thankfully. I couldn't imagine culling 300K-500K birds. I'm not stating anyone is faking anything, I just know how controlled we were and know that large commercial farms are even more controlled. The timing and scale of this all causes me to question everything. I feel for the those that have losses, it is difficult if, you can recover from for sure..
@ u/2020voter and u/TrumpsGoldenHair
If only the farmers had Remdesivir and enough ventilators, they could have saved them all!
Thank goodness we people have such drugs and technology or they may have decided to just cull us all too.
uh... wait a second...
kek...
There is reason to be skeptical. I have heard that once a government veterinarian confirms the presence of high pathogenic influenza that the government takes over, not even allowing the owner on the farm until they kill all the chickens on site.
That is very interesting & unnerving at the same time. I wonder how a farm would fare that testing say if, they were in opposition to the current political party....eek....thanks for the info :)
Nobody’s faking it and also there isn’t gonna be a shortage of chickens (not due to this) the number of chickens affected is equivalent to like two days of American chicken eating this is just more fear mongering bullshit. I see the chicken ranch fear bullshit posted almost every other day here it’s sickening and retarded
Never name what you intend to eat. And, after tending to a few hundred, I didn't see them as individual anymore. They became a large unit. Only one or two would stand out, but by the time that occurred they were off to auction or another buyer. Occasionally, I would pull a few here and there for my own separate flock, but not often...🙂
Sounds like when I was teaching classrooms with 37 kids xD
Me.I do not like them to be killed specially for nothing.
I hate killing animals. I have never hunted or would I. (Fully support the right of those that do). Part of normal operations of a poultry farm include culling the weak and sick animals daily. I had 250k chickens onsite at each flock, so you get numb to it after a few years.
I think you meant killing them whilst they are awake :)
Commercial poultry are stunned before getting the knife. I always thought it was a animal rights type thing.
Hard to say really... I guess... But with all the fake news these days one have to keep an open mind about everything you know. But as you recall the Covid scam right? It's like the boy who cried wolf! Nerveless good insight thanks
How big was the chicken ranch? I'd assume the biggest offenders would be the biggest producers.
The practices for health & isolation are basically the same for large or small producers. The turn rate is faster for larger producers, but the standards of preventing the spread or infection within a flock are basically the same. New birds are all isolated (stage houses) before being placed within or near an established flock, including new hatches. Sanitation is paramount with feed and water outlets. Most large producers isolate their premises from any public contact to further protect the flock from being introduced to any outside issues. It is a very controlled environment, that's why, I have difficulty believing a flu is running wild...Just my .02 on the issue...
Gotcha. Thanks for the input.
This is limiting supply for price gouging.
Coming from a former chicken rancher I find that very interesting to know... TY
What makes me think you may be correct is because the exact same thing is happening in the UK, mass culling of poultry.
What a coincidence.
Any similar news elsewhere, Canada, Australia? It's always the patterns that wake me up to this sort of stuff.
Oil embargo of the 1970s times everything.
Do they vaxx the chickens?
Yeah but how else are we gonna eat that herpes vaccine the chickens get?
Yes, they are all vaccinated at the hatchery (sprayed, goes in the eyes and nostrils) then vaccinated at least once again on the farm through the drinking water.
They certainly use antibiotics, as well as injecting water!
Hormones grow quick?
No commercial poultry in the USA has been treated with hormones or steroids. Weight gain is mostly due to genetics, feed, and other legal tricks.
Yes it is the same. No such thing as a flu virus or any other virus! Can't transfer to humans as it doesn't exist...biggest scam ever. All ways to kill us ..if they vaxx with mRNA do they think we can get it? Myself I would think our stomach a IDs would kill it
2.6 million Salmon being culled in western Canada because Feds are not issuing licences to fisheries.
https://salmonbusiness.com/mowi-canada-west-files-injunction-against-government-over-mass-salmon-cull/
The only thing I am hearing from farmers is feed is so expensive its creating a situation where they will either have to raise prices to compete with industrial farms or they will go put of business.
Or the fertilizer is getting so expensive it will greatly raise the price of crops or it will cause severe crop shortages.
This is all playing into the great reset. Once these issues take hold its not something that will be reversed overnight. It will take a year or two to stabilize.
And tnats not even considering what will be getting pumpped into the new fertilizer or feed.
you will eat the bugs and you will be happy!
(I would rather feed the bugs to the chickens and eat the chickens & eggs!)
Enter Bill Gates owning America's farmland.
That and the Biden adminitrations sanctions against Russia. That is the primary cause for both.
Its why I dont buy the "Russia is cleaning house" bit. Russia being there opened the door for the sanctions that are crushing small or independent farmers.
Basically, the same way Covid was used to destroy private business. Ukrain/Russia is being used to crush private farms.
It will all be controlled by a hedge fund soon.
Not worried about that..all forfeit
Chicken was the only cheap meat left to the masses after they jacked up the price of beef.
The prices of chicken is going up also. Price of everything is going up. Heck even the damn dollar tree’s prices have went up to $1.25+. Yes $1.25+, my dollar tree is now selling things up to $5 now! WTH? I don’t shop at 5 Below but I heard they have prices over $5 now. Can’t get out of the grocery store without spending $100+, same at Walmart too.
Go in on a whole cow with a few friends or family members. It makes it much more affordable.
Also, people should reconsider mutton (not lamb). It's delicious, plenty of fatty cuts. Good for stews, bbqs, and if you take to raising sheep you also have access to wool.
There's a reason the sheep in minecraft are jokingly called "wooly potatoes".
The chickens in industrial situations might have illnesses. I agree it's suspicious and could be what you're saying, though. I think it's standard procedure to starve people and cause shortages to make them compliant to regime change. I hope pepes on these forums will let us know if the county shows up at their door and show us any fliers/documentation.
Don't forget the turkeys. They're killing them too. It seems like they also got it.
Got them In the woods here
Always in plenty supply. Praise God. I told my daughter-in-law when I dropped off 3 new cases of canning jars yesterday that we may have to kill us a deer, trap some rabbits and feed on squirrel; which are all plentiful where I live. Her answer, "Shoo."
I told her when she runs out of meat, she'll eat darn near anything and like it.
Once it gets past your mouth (and your own inhibitions), it's all protein, fat, and carbs. Doesn't matter if it's prime rib, grilled cow placenta, or horse tongue, or edible fungus or rotted fish in a seal carcass.
Well...except for rabbit. You can starve on that meat.
Save the rabbits and use their guano to fertilize your garden
Brilliant
Gonna take what I can get when the going gets rough.
Yes, it is quite peculiar how this so called bird flu recognizes state boundaries so well. The last fowl ‘genocide’ I’m aware of occurred statewide in Wisconsin and Iowa.
Brings to mind dozens of arbitrary rules we have witnessed in recent history. Way too many to cite. They think we all have jellyfish for brains.
Exactly right and it boils my blood to see chicken owners so panicky and deceived about it...
Here's Ice Age Farmer on the topic: https://www.bitchute.com/video/85CxNYe1ijIa/
Must be the government is paying a premium to the farmers to kill them off, that is why the farmers aren’t saying anything. We figured that one out along time ago. How do you create a famine: kill the chickens (no chicken, no eggs), weather changes will destroy crops, next the government will come up with mad cow disease (skyrocketing beef prices) and kill the cattle. Poor crops no feed for the cattle anyhow. No meat, no milk. Manufactured crisis. Introduce synthetic meat.
I think they are hoping this will led to another virus and lockdowns/ which + Mail Voting FRAUD...
Beware...
They are using the PCR tests for this also, which we know to be useless other than inflating numbers for their agenda.
They are also targeting small farms to shut them down for good, bill gates bought up tons of farmland i bet his farms are not being targeted.
Kids. They love those dino-shaped nuggets.
All kinds of avian flu warnings and culling going on in Canada. I’ve got a backyard flock… guess this is why they’re stepping up their gun grabbing efforts.
I'm raising poultry for food and it's really easy. if you guy's need any details feel free to contact me.
What breed do you use? I've read Cornish Crosses are really great since they are ready to eat after 8 weeks.
I do Cornish crosses. They need to be fed. Freedom rangers are harder to get but can forage. They also take 12 weeks vs 8.
Destructive dialectics, as usual
Stocking the bunkers…
So, Am I suppose to take my chickens down to the CVS for testing? or do they have a home test?? LoL
They have been faking us out with fake diseases for decades now. Bird flu, swine flu, bovine whatever, AIDS, COVID, ebola, etc etc. Maybe hanta was real, maybe not. The medical industry is a Rockefeller scam.
Enoch 7.5 And they began to sin against birds, and against animals, and against reptiles, and against fish, and they devoured one another's flesh, and drank the blood from it.
The sick assholes are running out of human blood and are turning to drinking animal blood.
BIRD FLU: the Next Pandemic? ICE.AGE.FARMER [31:38 min]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRIZeSq7r6Q
this avian flu is just another fake like covid bird flu,.,what they so is they create some disease in our food, like ecoli,.birdflu,.and the like,.and then its taken off the shelves but then theyre all trucked down in to the Elites underground bunkers,.thats what theyre doing with all these supposed diseased or infected food,.!
Actually we don’t hear from farmers on it because it’s not unusual at all for this many chickens to be exterminated, but dunderheads in the media are trying to hype up the fear porn yet again.
This is a non-story.