The whole "there is no Qanon there is Q and anons" still makes zero sense to me. Q is anonymous. He is an anon who calls himself Q. I am an anon who calls myself HelloDolly. Not sure why this whole "there is no such thing as Qanon" is perceived as such a "gotcha." In the scheme of things to me it is the least important thing in the wide world. PS: Isn't Qanon.pub a website set up way back when, by someone who was decidedly NOT MSM?
The reason it makes sense to me is because Q talks about it in his posts. He points out that he was only ever known as "Q", and the reason the media calls it "QAnon" is so that they can include "anons" as part of "Q" so that they can have a fake anon go and shoot up a pizza parlor so that the whole thing can be made all about him instead of the content of what Q actually had to say. It just makes it easier for the media to insert actors and use that mechanism to discredit the entire movement into a bunch of wacky conspiracy theories.
they can have a fake anon go and shoot up a pizza parlor so that the whole thing can be made all about him instead of the content of what Q actually had to say
I'm confused...does "anon" just mean "people" in this context?
Isn't this all sort of a "no true scotsman" fallacy
Not sure why this whole "there is no such thing as Qanon" is perceived as such a "gotcha."
People are free to their opinions, yet I agree it weakens one's position by being overly pedantic. I think it fits with the autistic slant of the community though. Doesn't really matter to me. shrug
Kek , sorry to send twice. It appeared to me that only a couple anons in this thread are aware that q made a drop detailing an enemy technique to try and hold Q accountable for anon theories. And of course, the enemy uses FF attacks to avoid Q drops altogether by blaming anons for violence.
It's not distaste, it's an inaccurate label juxtaposed against anyone that disagrees with them. Your grandma is QAnon for all they care. Who is this 4CHAN?! Lol. It's the same thing. This is also how the Sam Hyde meme was born, in response to blaming video games and internet culture for mass shootings rather than mental health and three letter agency influence.
Exactly. There is Q, and there are anons following Q. There is no shame in being called a Q-anon. Should Christians start saying “there is Christ, and there are disciples, there are no Christians?” Of course not. Stop parsing words. It makes you look dumb. Wear it like a badge of honor ffs.
i've been saying for years now that this entire movement has been infiltrated by alphabet boys injecting cointelpro well poisoning in an effort to confuse us and discredit us.
i'm sure we could make a list of the bullshit theories that we know were done on purpose but i'd imagine we'd all have different lists...
There is a lot of open hatred and endorsements of psychotic acts on this board to the point I have to wonder is this just people expressing their frustrations with their satanic conditioning, or is this artificially injected by bad actors?
it's very advantageous for them to come here and pretend to be us and say horrific shit so they can use it as "proof" of their narrative that we should all be in camps if we believe anything that counters their narrative or objections.
however it's also understandable that people witnessing the systematic destruction of the greatest country on earth would set a few people off on a harmless internet rant.
I understand frustration and anger but there is vast gulf between wanting to see justice and violent lynch mobs of psychopaths raging in bloodthirst.
You are not helping the children by being violent monsters. You are killing your mind and spirit just by even entertaining horrible violence in your anger and frustration.
Is it worth "saving the children" in that way if it damns your soul to the same ultimate fate the molesters receive?
You know enough to know that vengeance belongs to the Lord which should be enough alone to know it isn't your place to exact it, but in the context of every single other thing that Jesus Christ taught in his time here you can't take that any further?
Did he tell us to lust for the blood and deaths of our enemies?
and frankly i don't think it'll come to that unless the elites push us too far.
they have to be very careful with the US because we all have so many guns, which is why i think they are just going to start a civil war (keep shaking the jar) or just nuke us and blame it on trump somehow.
they know they can't do what they want to do to us... but you can see them doing it all over the world to our contemporaries in Europe and Australia.
most everyone i know is never going to do a damn thing to anyone unless someone directly tries doing something to them.
i think 99.999999% of people here are this mindset.
i'll never go looking for a problem but i feel real sorry for anyone who comes here looking for one with me.
violence should always be a last resort, but it should be incredibly swift and over the top to let everyone know not to try it again.
i'm not the "rack your shotgun to scare them off" kind of guy, i'm the "kill them dead while they climb into the window they broke to make sure they can't come back later, drag them further into the house, put a drop gun in their hand, shoot three shots in the wall behind where you shot from, then call the police" kinda guy.
I'm never going to tell someone that if in the moment it would save the life of another and there appeared to be no alternative to not commit to violence to not do it, but again there is a vast gulf between that and this serial killer crap that these kids think makes them look hard.
I hope for the sake of their souls it's only talk, but the fact that it just flies here 99% of the time with nobody batting an eye is pretty gross.
Proverbs 18:21
“Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit.”
How will we know we'll be okay for a few generations if we don't see those responsible pay with their lives? We already house enough people for life. Bullets are cheap.
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I mean it's just what people call it. It's like saying "I'm not the manager. I'm the head supervisor. There are no managers here." It's the same thing. People are just calling you a title you don't call yourselves.
There's Q, and there's Anon. There are Anon who follow Q, and Anon who don't follow Q. People came up with a distinction for the two.
Furthermore, in the early days when it was on reddit, people were calling themselves QAnon
Q wrote that there is Q, and there are anons, but there is no QAnon.
The word was cleverly invented by C_A as a search term that will bring up only thousands of negative articles about the movement. The goal is to link Q with anons so that they can tar Q with the violent actions of "radical anons" (intel-agency impostors pretending to be patriots)
Hence why every FF school shooter is immediately branded a "QAnon supporter" in the first five minutes; then when it turns out he's an antifa democrat stooge, they can issue a weak "retraction" that will be seen by nobody, and off they go on their merry lying way
Before Q wrote that, there was a generally accepted term of the group, said by both outsiders and insiders. That name has stuck with the outsiders. They're still talking about you even if you don't call yourselves QAnon.
Bud it was way early days. Nobody understood Q. I'm talking 2017. People called themselves QAnon and that's when it first was getting talked about. The name is going to stick with people who have since lost interest, because that's what it was once called. Unless there's some official statement made by some embodiment of person or people, which there won't be, by very nature of the "Anon" part, people are gonna call you the name that you had when it was still growing.
I don't think I'm the only one. I'm just relaying factual history here, and a reason why people are still using the term QAnon. They don't care if it's what you prefer to be called. The general population knows the movement as QAnon. Unfortunately that's where marketing landed you.
I'm aware of what was said in 2020. Up until then QAnon had been widely accepted by both outsiders and insiders as the name of the group. It's just how others address you
So what? That detail is irrelevant in the context of Q drops, when we have been Warned that our enemy will attack us using Qanon. To use Qanon disregards the point of this win, which is Q research, research that shows "Qanon" will be used to attack the truth.
"Five days after the 2022 midterm elections, approximately 100 demonstrators gathered at the Maricopa County, Arizona, elections office to protest what they claimed were fraudulent results. One demonstrator told reporters, “we the people are requesting that the military step in and redo our election.” This call for military intervention in U.S. domestic politics was not an isolated occurrence. It is a single but dangerous recent example of how anti-democratic ideology from the QAnon extremist movement has entered mainstream political dialogue. "
Clearly they don't remember or care when the left called for the military to oust Trump, and how Milley essentially listened.
Addressing this threat needs to be an urgent priority for both government and civil society, and the report includes several recommendations including: supporting efforts by the Department of Defense to address extremism in the military; increasing veteran awareness of QAnon’s recruitment tactics and narratives; improving digital literacy and increasing public awareness of QAnon disinformation; demanding that elected leaders denounce extremist conspiracies; and both supporting targeted communities and holding accountable perpetrators of extremism.
What a laughable piece of shit excuse for a research paper. Someone actually paid money for this? Best part is appendix B with their “q-influencers” and “q-adjacent influencers”. Why not link to Q directly? Not one hit piece EVER links to a reflector site or even here. What a joke. (See PDF to full report below)
Normies reading about “Qanon” in the mainstream media and intrigued to find out more will be searching for that exact term. All they will find is other MSM “Qanon” hit jobs.
Are we missing a trick by being purists about the terminology? Spreading the message requires a level of accessibility for inquisitive newcomers. Thoughts…
I caught Patriots on Twitter saying QAnon. And I reminded them that QAnon was something made up by the Fake Lame Stream Media.
I get that people realize it's not technically correct, but the term does cover "Q + Anons". Not sure why there is so much distaste on it.
The whole "there is no Qanon there is Q and anons" still makes zero sense to me. Q is anonymous. He is an anon who calls himself Q. I am an anon who calls myself HelloDolly. Not sure why this whole "there is no such thing as Qanon" is perceived as such a "gotcha." In the scheme of things to me it is the least important thing in the wide world. PS: Isn't Qanon.pub a website set up way back when, by someone who was decidedly NOT MSM?
The reason it makes sense to me is because Q talks about it in his posts. He points out that he was only ever known as "Q", and the reason the media calls it "QAnon" is so that they can include "anons" as part of "Q" so that they can have a fake anon go and shoot up a pizza parlor so that the whole thing can be made all about him instead of the content of what Q actually had to say. It just makes it easier for the media to insert actors and use that mechanism to discredit the entire movement into a bunch of wacky conspiracy theories.
I'm confused...does "anon" just mean "people" in this context?
Isn't this all sort of a "no true scotsman" fallacy
People are free to their opinions, yet I agree it weakens one's position by being overly pedantic. I think it fits with the autistic slant of the community though. Doesn't really matter to me. shrug
This drop exists as a fact, tho - u/#q4881
Woah you really love posting this
Kek , sorry to send twice. It appeared to me that only a couple anons in this thread are aware that q made a drop detailing an enemy technique to try and hold Q accountable for anon theories. And of course, the enemy uses FF attacks to avoid Q drops altogether by blaming anons for violence.
Yep, fair point. Thanks for the source.
Same. It always struck me as "meh". I guess the point I can somewhat understand is that it distracts from Q posts vs the followers.
More than a distraction - u/#q4881
To help make sense of it - u/#q4881
Right? It's what the normies know us by. It's as good a name as any.
I believe it is because of this drop
u/#q4881
Yep, fair point. Thanks for the source.
It's not distaste, it's an inaccurate label juxtaposed against anyone that disagrees with them. Your grandma is QAnon for all they care. Who is this 4CHAN?! Lol. It's the same thing. This is also how the Sam Hyde meme was born, in response to blaming video games and internet culture for mass shootings rather than mental health and three letter agency influence.
Yep fair, I forgot about the Q post. Don't really understand why it was nitpicked about, but I assume it's important enough to Q to do so.
Exactly. There is Q, and there are anons following Q. There is no shame in being called a Q-anon. Should Christians start saying “there is Christ, and there are disciples, there are no Christians?” Of course not. Stop parsing words. It makes you look dumb. Wear it like a badge of honor ffs.
IT is fake? Damn I have been trying to join and you just made me cry.
God bless the learning process.
👍 u/#q4881
"Senior Researcher on Antisemitism"
This is the part where we tilt our heads back and laugh.....
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Every fucking time.
I caught that. Makes my eyeballs boil and blood bulge.
Where are the semites anyway? Did they all die around 2-300 AD?
https://twitter.com/humanrights1st/status/1602426813195632642?s=20&t=oVDByjveisj6LhtkvcUF9A
Yo here's their twitter anons, go forth and GIVE THEM HELL.
Look for me in the comments 😜
Clown world backwards talk. Human rights are actually last to these rando mockingbird faggots.
i've been saying for years now that this entire movement has been infiltrated by alphabet boys injecting cointelpro well poisoning in an effort to confuse us and discredit us.
i'm sure we could make a list of the bullshit theories that we know were done on purpose but i'd imagine we'd all have different lists...
and thats the point.
There is a lot of open hatred and endorsements of psychotic acts on this board to the point I have to wonder is this just people expressing their frustrations with their satanic conditioning, or is this artificially injected by bad actors?
Probably a little of both.
like what
Great question! 👆
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZXQjPm7v/x/c/4TohHCXiXNh
That's just me being lazy about it.
You know you have seen these and similar calls for extreme violence on here before.
The calls for woodchippers that happen here on the daily?
He threw the fishing rod in the pond on that one kek
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZXQjPm7v/x/c/4TohHCXiXNh
100% for sure both.
it's very advantageous for them to come here and pretend to be us and say horrific shit so they can use it as "proof" of their narrative that we should all be in camps if we believe anything that counters their narrative or objections.
however it's also understandable that people witnessing the systematic destruction of the greatest country on earth would set a few people off on a harmless internet rant.
I understand frustration and anger but there is vast gulf between wanting to see justice and violent lynch mobs of psychopaths raging in bloodthirst.
You are not helping the children by being violent monsters. You are killing your mind and spirit just by even entertaining horrible violence in your anger and frustration.
Is it worth "saving the children" in that way if it damns your soul to the same ultimate fate the molesters receive?
You know enough to know that vengeance belongs to the Lord which should be enough alone to know it isn't your place to exact it, but in the context of every single other thing that Jesus Christ taught in his time here you can't take that any further?
Did he tell us to lust for the blood and deaths of our enemies?
thats why i said "harmless internet rant".
and frankly i don't think it'll come to that unless the elites push us too far.
they have to be very careful with the US because we all have so many guns, which is why i think they are just going to start a civil war (keep shaking the jar) or just nuke us and blame it on trump somehow.
they know they can't do what they want to do to us... but you can see them doing it all over the world to our contemporaries in Europe and Australia.
most everyone i know is never going to do a damn thing to anyone unless someone directly tries doing something to them.
i think 99.999999% of people here are this mindset.
i'll never go looking for a problem but i feel real sorry for anyone who comes here looking for one with me.
violence should always be a last resort, but it should be incredibly swift and over the top to let everyone know not to try it again.
i'm not the "rack your shotgun to scare them off" kind of guy, i'm the "kill them dead while they climb into the window they broke to make sure they can't come back later, drag them further into the house, put a drop gun in their hand, shoot three shots in the wall behind where you shot from, then call the police" kinda guy.
i think thats the best policy, change my mind.
I'm never going to tell someone that if in the moment it would save the life of another and there appeared to be no alternative to not commit to violence to not do it, but again there is a vast gulf between that and this serial killer crap that these kids think makes them look hard.
I hope for the sake of their souls it's only talk, but the fact that it just flies here 99% of the time with nobody batting an eye is pretty gross.
Proverbs 18:21
“Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit.”
Gen 1:!2
"I've given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use."
...little something in there for everyone i guess eh?
Frustrated
How will we know we'll be okay for a few generations if we don't see those responsible pay with their lives? We already house enough people for life. Bullets are cheap.
Faith? That's how I know.
God wins and its not because a handful of psychotics want to shove their enemies into woodchippers in His name.
They are so stupid it's sad.
The report was produced by West End Communications, a strategic PR firm. Wonder who their client was. Have a look at who works there:
https://westendstrategy.com/team/
Their clients sure read like a small-time "who's not who" list :
https://westendstrategy.com/our-clients/
This was sure interesting:
https://westendstrategy.com/updates-from-west/west-faq-trauma-informed-approach/
Lmao imagine writing this.... "research"
There's a stickied thread currently with QAnon in the title.
I mean it's just what people call it. It's like saying "I'm not the manager. I'm the head supervisor. There are no managers here." It's the same thing. People are just calling you a title you don't call yourselves.
There's Q, and there's Anon. There are Anon who follow Q, and Anon who don't follow Q. People came up with a distinction for the two.
Furthermore, in the early days when it was on reddit, people were calling themselves QAnon
Yeah, people named Q.
Q wrote that there is Q, and there are anons, but there is no QAnon.
The word was cleverly invented by C_A as a search term that will bring up only thousands of negative articles about the movement. The goal is to link Q with anons so that they can tar Q with the violent actions of "radical anons" (intel-agency impostors pretending to be patriots)
Hence why every FF school shooter is immediately branded a "QAnon supporter" in the first five minutes; then when it turns out he's an antifa democrat stooge, they can issue a weak "retraction" that will be seen by nobody, and off they go on their merry lying way
Before Q wrote that, there was a generally accepted term of the group, said by both outsiders and insiders. That name has stuck with the outsiders. They're still talking about you even if you don't call yourselves QAnon.
Bud it was way early days. Nobody understood Q. I'm talking 2017. People called themselves QAnon and that's when it first was getting talked about. The name is going to stick with people who have since lost interest, because that's what it was once called. Unless there's some official statement made by some embodiment of person or people, which there won't be, by very nature of the "Anon" part, people are gonna call you the name that you had when it was still growing.
Q did this, clearly stating there is Q, and there are anons, but there is no QAnon
Most people don't really care about 4chan as a source. I mean a public one.
I don't think I'm the only one. I'm just relaying factual history here, and a reason why people are still using the term QAnon. They don't care if it's what you prefer to be called. The general population knows the movement as QAnon. Unfortunately that's where marketing landed you.
This is a research board, this is a drop - u/#q4881
Here you go fren
u/#q4881
I'm aware of what was said in 2020. Up until then QAnon had been widely accepted by both outsiders and insiders as the name of the group. It's just how others address you
So what? That detail is irrelevant in the context of Q drops, when we have been Warned that our enemy will attack us using Qanon. To use Qanon disregards the point of this win, which is Q research, research that shows "Qanon" will be used to attack the truth.
I know what you are talking about. Similar to FBIanon etc, just a way to describe, in the early days, who one is talking about.
More or less yeah. It's become the accepted name for the movement now.
https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Digital-Soldiers_QAnon-Report.pdf
Weak. Reads like it was authored by a gender studies undergrad. Only 20 pages but repeats itself over and over.
'QAnons and the military like each other and that's baaaaad'
'QAnons don't trust elections how dare they reeeee'
'QAnons fit the clown world definition of antisemitic because they believe a Satanic cabal exists'
hahaha gender studies undergrad hahahaha
Thank you for the Cliff’s Notes 👍
Man, their report is wild. Like, true, make shit up, wild.
"Five days after the 2022 midterm elections, approximately 100 demonstrators gathered at the Maricopa County, Arizona, elections office to protest what they claimed were fraudulent results. One demonstrator told reporters, “we the people are requesting that the military step in and redo our election.” This call for military intervention in U.S. domestic politics was not an isolated occurrence. It is a single but dangerous recent example of how anti-democratic ideology from the QAnon extremist movement has entered mainstream political dialogue. "
Clearly they don't remember or care when the left called for the military to oust Trump, and how Milley essentially listened.
Storming is coming peeds!
Oh look, radicalized extremists calling OTHER people radicalized extremists.
Just like MSM, peddlers of lies and disinformation, constantly crying about truth-tellers' "disinformation" (a/k/a factual data).
Crying about "threatening our democracy" as they do so themselves.
The projection is 100%.
Qanon... Is that like AL-ANON?
Where Normies go when they're worried about someone who they think has a Q problem?
😁🤣😭
Not bad for a LARP
What a laughable piece of shit excuse for a research paper. Someone actually paid money for this? Best part is appendix B with their “q-influencers” and “q-adjacent influencers”. Why not link to Q directly? Not one hit piece EVER links to a reflector site or even here. What a joke. (See PDF to full report below)
You're right, spot on 👍!
u/#q4881
Qanon is a strawman.
When Elon says QAnon he's not talking to us.
go away we know who you are!
Normies reading about “Qanon” in the mainstream media and intrigued to find out more will be searching for that exact term. All they will find is other MSM “Qanon” hit jobs. Are we missing a trick by being purists about the terminology? Spreading the message requires a level of accessibility for inquisitive newcomers. Thoughts…
Here's what Q dropped on this issue - u/#q4881