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Let’s take a beat before we make this Shaman out to be some big “victim” or “political prisoner”. You’re seeing what they want you to see. (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 3 years ago by MNisahellhole 3 years ago by MNisahellhole +252 / -0
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– AngelCole 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

This place isn't making him out to be anything. We don't know his role though suspect he was colluding with Pelosi/Dems.

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– MNisahellhole [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

A lot you you guys saying that “everybody took pictures with him” are completely missing the point here. You have this outrageous mascot parading all over the place, of course people are going to get pictures with him. But now apply geolocation tracking that we know they used to arrest other J6ers, and all of these people have photo confirmations of their identities on their phones/social media. Geolocation alone would be circumstantial. Geolocation + ID is a slam dunk. He was bait, and 978+ people took it.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not sure who the "he" is that you're talking about, but the folks talking about pictures are saying that JC having a picture with the Ukrainian operative doesn't mean zilch.

Otherwise, are people misreading what you are attempting to say by mosting your subject line and this picture of the (known) ukrainian operative?

From a critical perspective, your post title/picture really fails to indicate what you are saying in this comment here. If that was your main point, you could have made it a LOT clearer.

On that note, it's an interesting theory, and worthy of contention, but how evidence based is it? Is there any evidence that people's selfies with JC are the key or partial data used by the corrupt establishment to prosecute?

Pretty sure people would have taken heaps and heaps of selfies that day, and that corrupt authorities could easily have gotten access to such info.

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– RandoMando2A 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

He was reported to be a crisis actor early on. At least here on GAW and PDW within a day or two after J6.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'd be careful with the use of "we" here. I certainly don't suspect Chansley of colluding with the DS, unless of course you were talking about the Ukrainian operative.

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– HonestBobbin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I wonder IF he was just doing his weird thing at the wrong time?

Not saying I give this guy a pass, though having run & worked multiple events, the guys that are notable are attention grabbing individuals. Our teams have often used them to help hype up something at a con & it is as easy as giving them free VIP pass upgrades or a food voucher in many cases.

He went to jail (or was it prison) taking a plea deal. Maybe he was involved, maybe not. I am surprised as I haven't heard that the other ANTIFA/Blackhat aligned individuals were jailed.

What happened to that scrawny ANTIFA kid from Utah (Tooele IIRC) that worked for CNN somehow. Did he ever get jail time? His brother rated him out IIRC. If he was jailed too, then maybe this shaman guy is a troublemaker too. If others that were ANTIFA minded didn't get jail time, I figure he was just trying to build his brand of MAGA on Capitol Hill.

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– FractalizingIron 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The fact that he is in jail is ONE data point that suggests he ISN'T a DS asset.

Did you hear the interview that tucker did with his lawyer?

All the J6 nonsense aside, it's a literal crime that the exculpatory evidence was NOT handed over to Chansley's lawyer, namely, the footage Calrson's show has showed. From a narrative perspective, this report by Carlson blows the whole J6 committee's lies apart. In a way that normies can digest, methinks.

Saying Chansley was a DS plant in order to facilitate the J6 false flag is a bit like accusing Russia of blowing up the NordStream, if you ask me.

If he was a plant, he did a totally shite job at inciting rioters, making Q look bad, and providing any real pretext for the label of 'insurrection'. He took the plea deal after some 6 months in prison (probably in isolation), and because the J6ers never even provided the exculpatory evidence to his team.

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– LongTimeListener 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The fact that he is in jail is ONE data point that suggests he ISN'T a DS asset.

I dont understand how you get to this. Since when has the pedo death cult had a problem sacrificing thier sheep once they are done with them?

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Were any of the fed boys arrested? Ray Epps, for example?

If JC was truly an inside operative for the DS, then they would Clintoncide him, not let him languishing in a prison so that he could spill the beans.

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– winn 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTQcBEOe/jacob-chansley-was-trying-to-get/

this pretty much blows it up for me.

Also, random factoid, according to Duane Cates that Sergai guy was KIA in Ukraine

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The more info comes out, the more it convinces me that at a minimum, he was NOT a DS asset.

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– LongTimeListener 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That Ukraine guy was all over the Portland Ukraine diaspora too. He was an antifa general.

Dig in to the deliberate settling of Ukrainian expats in the Portland area and how they are linked to antifa.

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– LateToTheShow 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This needs to be a stickied post ASAP

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– HonestBobbin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed. I am at a point where those who committed these crimes must be tried for treason & put out to a public death. No country can survive treason like this. Every single one of them & deal with the fallout from there.

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– LongTimeListener 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I think it is fairly obvious he was a plant. How many people were escorted all through the Capital by the CP? You can see they had orders to get him on the Senate floor as they had to check multiple doors for one that was unlocked.

He was already known to many after showing up to other events and the visibility provided by his costume was a perfect focal point for Nancy. Im sure he was offered a very nice deal and then Nancy screwed him.

Being a victim of this and being a Nancy funded op arent mutually exclusive here. The pedo death cult has no problem serving up their sheep for slaughter if it benefits them.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The problem I have with that theory is that if Nancy or whoever screwed him, there's no reason for him to now squeal.

Imagine how that would blow up? If he spilled the beans on a real FF operation because he was on the inside. No, I don't think they would screw him, and I think there are other more plausible explanations for his actions.

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– LongTimeListener 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Who would he squeal to?

I admit this guy and his motivations are clouded in the fog of war. There are facts that could lead one to believe he is a plant or perhaps some level of misguided Patriot.

Tucker though made him a symbol for the unjust treatment of the J6 prisoners. The jury, imo, is still out on Tucker as well, but you have to ask yourself why he focused on this shady character that Nancy and her minions also placed such emphasis towards. Jacob Chansley was the focus of Mondays videos and he was the only part of Mondays show that Tucker continued to talk about on Tuesday and Wednesday. Was it just low hanging fruit? Or is there a psyop being run to discredit MAGA that includes this guy?

Also why the alias? Angeli or Chansley?

Why didnt Tucker spend any more time on Ray Epps? That is where you blow this entire J6 fake insurrection and Nancys role in it up. I watched all three days with my Dad and when discussing it with him over dinner yesterday, he still doesnt know who Ray Epps is even though I asked him to pay special attention when that segment ran live.

Realizing past psyops I will remain wary when it comes to Chansley.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Taking the stance of remaining wary seems completely appropriate to me.

As you point out, there is plenty of fog here, as there is in a LOT of areas that we naturally have an interest in.

Regarding Chansley, a cautious level of observation is warranted, imo. I haven't reached any solid conclusions, but my suspicion is that this guy is not DS at the least. Whether he is 'a misguided patriot' or had some positive or planned role in the events, I don't know.

It seems that sometimes, our pedes want to rush to conclusions because they offer some level of comfort, as in "This guy is obviously a fed" or "This guy is clearly a good guy" etc. Such a sense of discomfort with not knowing is, I would say, one of any anons greatest vulnerability.

We should be fine with being able to look at what we know, what we don't know, and having suspicions or ideas but withholding evaluations and resisting the urge to jump or move to conclusions before things are clear.

In that sense, I see nothing wrong and a lot right with remaining wary. You or I may come down on different sides of the fence regarding our thoughts on whether he's a plus or a minus, or who is likely behind him, but that's immaterial if we maintain an appropriate level of awareness (which personally, I think far too often many pedes fail to do when engaging with such unknowns).

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– Sadness 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Selfies do not make a man guilty of insur-re-muh-rection-ma- lism- ing. It's easy to just walk up to some prominent looking character and snap a quick one. It only takes a second.

Yes there is lotsa smearing going on - even here. I smell a stinky rotten rat. The Q-shaman guy is too visible. Note the black hoodie on the other guy, however. This guy is trying to 'blend' in.

I saw a video of a bunch of guys wearing such hoodies and camo, heading out of the capitol, while keeping their heads down. Anyone got a link? What was their mission?

Also. I am of the opinion that a man is innocent until proven guilty, and what the horned guy did, according to the evidences, is not enough to make him guilty.

The identification of Sergai Dybynyn is more interesting, however.

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– CorpseLivesMatter 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

My parents took a photo with him too - a lot of people did. Are my parents now Ukrainian plants? Lol this sticky is laughable

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

"a bunch of guys wearing such hoodies and camo" I recall watching such footage, too.

A certain number of them appeared to have earplugs and wireless communication capabilities, too.

BTW, I just listened to the Carlson interview with Chansley's lawyer. I was formerly of the opinion that Chansley was acting as a White Hat operative. Now, I'm tending to think he may simply have been a victim.

I'm fairly convinced, however, that he is not a DS operative.

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– winn 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"we're not here to be Antifa" whatever happened with that guy

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– Pbman2 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The Ukrainians were probably the main violent force in the BLM riots I bet.

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– intellectual-darkweb 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think Ukraine is secondary/tertiary. Who invited them over for dinner? Globohomos in our own government.

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– Lapstrake 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

This is silly. I don't know what the deal with the Chansley, but everybody was wanting to pose with him because of his outlandish outfit. There's 1000 pictures of him posing with people, and this is cherry picking pictures to try and show collusion and great friendship.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Silly indeed.

Elementary-school level thinking - or rather, unthinking - and reasoning.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

lol. It appears that OP was NOT suggesting the photo with the Ukrainian asset was what is relevant, but apparently, his theory is that Chansley was dressed up elaborately so that everyone would want to take a selfie with him, and then the authorities used those selfies and geotracking to grab all those folks and charge them!

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– StinkeePinkee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Cucker Tarlson's joke coverage is exactly what I expected: he opened tonight with a twonday old drag queen story...amazing how Ray Epps has disappeared again, and Qanon Shaman (so dumb) is the only focus of Cucker's coverage...nothing like a yankee for protecting the government's encroachment...

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– GodBlessAmerica58 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

They found a nut and used him. I watched his whole video, he only missed out supporting flat earth.

Served just over 2 years in the Navy as a SUPPLY CLERK and got booted.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

According to his lawyer, he was diagnosed with some mental health problems years back, but he is also a very sensitive, articulate fellow, apparently.

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– Alexbella 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Is the bottom picture inside the Capitol? If so why wasn't Sergai rounded up and arrested? If only for optics sake. Yet the Shaman guy got sentenced to 41 months.

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– truthloveliberty 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And remember that photo of him looking over Giuliano’s shoulder in an office setting, taken well before Jan 6?

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– TurdFergueson2 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just some twatter stuff on "Jake Angeli" or Jacob Chansley...

https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1346938863575474178

Some federal charges...

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/chansley-jacob-anthony

And a conservative write-up from the time period on how this dude is an actor.

https://defconnews.com/2021/01/11/buffalo-guy-trump-supporter-is-actually-a-leftist-agitator/

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not all who call themselves "conservative" are either conservative or accurate. That last link seems pretty low effort to me. SO MUCH stuff is written up without serious analysis or research, and lightly drawn conclusions often get asserted, and written about, as if they are facts.

FYI, there is a short interview with Chansey's lawyer in this most recent T Carlson report. (comes later in the video, around or after the 30 min mark, I think)

https://rumble.com/v2cd2kk-tucker-carlson-tonight-full-episode-wednesday-march-8.html

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– TurdFergueson2 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That last link took forever to find actually. Because it has been two years since all this retardation. And most f what I remember seeing and reading is not able to be found in the internet due to two years worth of scrubbing. But hey, this was just me rounding up some information to browse through for those too lazy to go seek it out themselves.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Apologies for any misunderstanding. I thought the info you provided was very helpful. It's certainly a step in the right direction.

PS. The "low effort" comment was a comment regarding the linked article, NOT a comment on your effort, which is far from low, imo.

I don't know if laziness is the key reason some people don't investigate. Not everyone has unlimited time to search and dig on everything.

I do think that if people don't make the effort to dig, but draw conclusions and make evaluations without even attempting to dig, that's pretty lazy.

Personally, I don't understand how or why so many draw absolute conclusions regarding Chansley, but fail to offer evidence or critical digging.

But maybe I'm just the same....

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– slevinwind 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

He has always appeared as a plant. Has played a role that I have not seen as something that supports what most of us do.

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– MNisahellhole [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

A lot you you guys saying that “everybody took pictures with him” are completely missing the point here. You have this outrageous mascot parading all over the place, of course people are going to get pictures with him. But now apply geolocation tracking that we know they used to arrest other J6ers, and all of these people have photo confirmations of their identities on their phones/social media. Geolocation alone would be circumstantial. Geolocation + ID is a slam dunk. He was bait, and 978+ people took it.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

To be fair to the Shaman man, taking snapshots with 'someone' should never be grounds for guilt by association.

Shaman man has been unwitting or wittingly the mascot for the J6 narrative. I previously criticized him for being such a willing stooge and asset for the Deep State. Is he real or not.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What if he became the mascot for the J6 lies, providing a very useful focal point for both attacking Maga and Q / anons, but also, as the real information comes out an emerges, ends up totally discrediting the J6 lies, and exonerating, at least in terms of NOT being what he was labeled as (and what Maga and Q were being labeled as) and exposing the DS J6 lies?

But either way, guilt by association is the lowest of the low levels of reasoning. Disappointed this post got so many (I'm assuming) knee jerk updoogles.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't think there is enough clear information to draw anything other than speculative conclusions re: Chansley.

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– Bloggerchick 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Whatever else Jake Angeli is, he's an actor and a poser. Not a solid foundation for trust.

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– intellectual-darkweb 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ukraine is a secondary or tertiary puppet. The globohomo puppets in our own government were closer to the puppet masters - our Luciferian overlords.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So ... what you are saying here is that Chansley was at the capital on that day, and a Ukraine DS operative was at the capital that day, and because the Ukrainian operative took a self with Chansley, Chansley is obviously a DS asset...

Hmmmm... That would make everyone else who took a picture with Chansley a DS asset right? And obviously EVERYONE else there at the day was a DS asset, right?

Hmmmmm....

Oh, my fren. I cannot restrain my sarcasm. Dude, your reasoning here is barely worthy of GAW. It's actually sub-reddit level thinking. As many in the comments are poointing iout, one way or another. Try moar.

There are few posts for which I undertake the effort to step out of community settings from and then go back to community settings for. This was one.

Face, meet palm.

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– MNisahellhole [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

A lot you you guys saying that “everybody took pictures with him” are completely missing the point here. You have this outrageous mascot parading all over the place, of course people are going to get pictures with him. But now apply geolocation tracking that we know they used to arrest other J6ers, and all of these people have photo confirmations of their identities on their phones/social media. Geolocation alone would be circumstantial. Geolocation + ID is a slam dunk. He was bait, and 978+ people took it.

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– ItsOkToBeRight 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Why was Chansley being privately escorted in by 2 Capitol police?

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good question. From what I've seen, it wasn't merely 2. Escorted in and around.

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– morum 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It seems like he was a plant by the dems for photo ops. it also kind of seems like they threw him under the bus. Based on this i really have no sympathy for the guy, he agreed to play on team snake and got bit. For all we know he was a plant in the prison to report on the actual political prisoners.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'd need to see actual factual evidence to support that theory, before taking it seriously. But maybe that's just me.

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– morum 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

sorry if you felt i was stating fact and not opinion when i used the words " seems " and also referred to how " I " feel about the matter. then pointing out at the end a wild possibility and referencing our lack of information " for all we know ".

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sarcasm noted (er, right?)

So, you are NOT offering a theory or theories then?

Just an opinion? Don't you formulate your opinions based on theory at least in part?

If you are just sharing your opinion, no problem there, but I still don't see any reason for me to take your view or opinion seriously.

I think, however, if you are going to share your opinion, you have to expect that sometimes people will comment on it. Surely?

Cheerio.

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– morum 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

pip pip huzzah there chap.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Updoogle for timely deployment of pseudo-british cheer.

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– UltraSupraMaga 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nice shirt ! https://files.catbox.moe/6yprvo.jpg

archive sauce : https://web.archive.org/web/20230310101453/https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832853506343.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US

I bet you this dude is a mossad agent.

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– queue-anon 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No one cares about this guy, I've never seen anyone praise him. He's a clown.

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– LIBERTYorDEATH1791 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I like how they are all bad quality. Half look like shit photoshops

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– Semmelweis 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Don't forget he also has a photo with Giuliani as well as a youtube video talking bout how we're goin to fight them aliens boys.

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– Vihad 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Just another useful idiot like all the other patsies throughout history. Some suicide, others get killed after they've served their purpose. He's probably lucky, and just as surprised, that he just got jailtime.

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– photobuf 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't think this is the same guy but nice try.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

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