You make the dart out of ice. It's solid. It penetrates. The fish toxin is delivered but the dart melts and dries up. One small puncture wound. No evidence of a dart left.
Yes, but now they can disrupt your heart, mind and electrical system with frequency thru any electrical outlet (and things plugged into it) you have in your house.
No specific sauce, but it’s out there if you look or listen to “their” talks.
Remember all those people on tv years ago, like news anchors and I think even judge Judy going blank or failing to formulate even the simplest of sentences?
Dick Tracy: 1936 “The Hotel Murders” or “Dick Tracy and the frozen bullets”. The villain “Athnel Jones” used parafin coated frozen bullets to kill and leave no ballistic evidence. Maybe the CIA learned from one of Tracy’s villains. Kind of amazing what the movies and big little books (1936) can foretell.
I don’t buy this... not this version of the gun. I’d imagine the gun itself looks more like a stun gun and is applied at close contact with a massive bolt of electricity. That - would be nearly untraceable.
The Japanese were killing each other with icicles hundreds of years ago. Glad to see our alphabet soup dinkis' are finally catching up and think it's novel. 😆. /s
Frozen bullets would be very difficult to implement, no doubt. But it made for a memorable read from what is now an old comic/big little book if you remember those. For a more deadly weapon of choice, it appears the bad guys moved on to frozen MRNA encapsulated in lipid nano particles that can be shot into the victim.
This has long been the limited hangout story regarding the House Assassinations Committee.
Everybody knows about this stupid, mythical prop. But very few know all 3 Mob Bosses connected to the JFK hit were liquidated in the 6 months prior to the hearings.
The scope would be legitimate, as you are trying to hold on a target area that may be only a few square inches at a distance of ten yards or so. (Effective range of a Crosman 1322 air pistol is 25 meters.) Standard pistol shooting accuracy is not good enough for an assassination attempt.
The dart would be aerodynamically stabilized; no spinning (standard for air pistols). The weapon would be a smoothbore air pistol and the dart could be accelerated by a cup (sabot) that would be shed once out of the muzzle.
Not silly at all. The hand must be supported, and standard shooting stances are two-handed. If you have the jitters when shooting, you shouldn't be shooting.
Ice at below freezing does not melt too quickly. A gelatine layer might insulate somewhat. Latex gloves are an old, old standby.
Who said battery operated? Probably driven by a CO2 cartridge and the line you see coming around to the breach is probably a gas tube. At, say, 100+ meters/second, a blunt nail would penetrate skin and flesh, so an ice dart would simply go in.
The article says the gun was a modified Colt model 1911, but there is no basis for that statement. Various details of the pistol shown are incommensurate with the Colt 1911 (slide shape, barrel arrangement sans recoil spring and plunger, different trigger and trigger guard, different grip shape, completely different breech design).
No more so than a shooter aiming a pistol. (If you are squinting, it's not the scope for you.)
Stabilizing fins can be molded into the ice. The nose needs only to be pointy, not needle-like. In fact, you would like the ice "needle" to be moderately teardrop in shape. This is where a sabot would be highly useful.
The trials and tribulations of an assassin.
I was responding to the comment, but, yes, the headline was a jump to a conclusion.
Model 1911: The dart pistol was in no way compatible with the frame and slide of a 1911. Such an idea is sheer distraction. There is no reason to develop an air pistol that has the mechanics of a delayed-recoil semiautomatic pistol.
There's enough ignorance to go around. I was browsing in a gun store years ago and some customer was asking the clerk whether 7.62 mm Luger pistol ammunition was the same as 7.62 mm Mauser pistol ammunition. The clerk assured him that it was. (Those who know how much of a blooper this was will probably upbraid me for not saying anything to correct the mistake. The answer is that my Spidey Senses went off, but I wasn't that familiar with ammunition at that time in my life to barge into the discussion.)
Give it up. A conical projectile would be too skimpy for the diameter it would have to be (much less mass than a corresponding rod or needle of the same diameter). There is no advantage to imparting spin, when the angular momentum would be vanishingly small, and "spiral dents" would only impair the physical integrity of the projectile (ice). Flechette rounds have been shot from guns for decades, and an ice flechette would be straightforward.
Good try, but insufficient to preclude a working design. You make too many assumptions. But let's check. You don't actually estimate a volume for the ice "needle" but let us suppose a frontal area of 4 square millimeters and a length of 20 millimeters = 80 cubic millimeters = 0.08 cubic centimeter => 0.08 gram (water ice density ~ 1 gram/cc). Muzzle velocity is not limited so much by energy as by the expansion process, so a muzzle velocity of 150 m/sec is not unreasonable. This is where the sabot comes in, which would provide some mass to moderate the acceleration and structural support for the needle. (There is no shock wave inside an air pistol.) It would aerodynamically peel away once free of the muzzle.
A muzzle velocity of 150 m/sec would equate to 500 fps, or 340 mph, so stick your hand outside the window of your car at that speed and encounter a particle of hail and see if it penetrates. Something pointed would penetrate just fine. Arrows travel at 100 to 300 fps and penetrate most regularly. (I once pounded my fist against an interior wall and discovered I had been penetrated by a nail head. Never noticed it, and I can bet you my fist was not traveling anything close to 340 mph.)
The scope is not B.S. Ever shot a target at 50 feet? Even a 2x scope would come in handy for fine work. Having a reticle zeroed to the weapon would be a lot better than a standard pair of sights. (Why you would scorn something that would improve your aim suggests to me you are not cut out to be an assassin. But that's not a bad thing.)
So, the minimum perforation velocity does not seem to be a problem, and there is no minimum mass limitation if a sabot is used (as it surely would have to be in order to maintain support for the needle and avoid wear/tear against the gun barrel). It looks credible upon analysis.
I'll bet you anything that's what they used on Andrew Breitbart.
Frozen water?
You make the dart out of ice. It's solid. It penetrates. The fish toxin is delivered but the dart melts and dries up. One small puncture wound. No evidence of a dart left.
I think they were just saying that we have a word for "frozen water"
Lol. I see it now.
Like dry mud.
Yes, but now they can disrupt your heart, mind and electrical system with frequency thru any electrical outlet (and things plugged into it) you have in your house.
No specific sauce, but it’s out there if you look or listen to “their” talks.
Remember all those people on tv years ago, like news anchors and I think even judge Judy going blank or failing to formulate even the simplest of sentences?
That points to exactly what you're talking about
Very likely a real and usable thing. Think of the tech they have now ... this is obsolete.
Dick Tracy: 1936 “The Hotel Murders” or “Dick Tracy and the frozen bullets”. The villain “Athnel Jones” used parafin coated frozen bullets to kill and leave no ballistic evidence. Maybe the CIA learned from one of Tracy’s villains. Kind of amazing what the movies and big little books (1936) can foretell.
Just think of what they might have now! This was 48 years ago.
Only 12 years after their barbarian days of just shooting a president in the head.... in front of a crowd... while driving down the street...
What refinement!!!
I don’t buy this... not this version of the gun. I’d imagine the gun itself looks more like a stun gun and is applied at close contact with a massive bolt of electricity. That - would be nearly untraceable.
RIP J Stark......
The Japanese were killing each other with icicles hundreds of years ago. Glad to see our alphabet soup dinkis' are finally catching up and think it's novel. 😆. /s
Bill Cooper theorized over 20 years ago this is what they gave to Greer to fire the final killshot to JFK, or at least something very similar.
an air pressure pistol that fired shellfish toxin to destroy what was left of JFK's brain.
there are rumors that they did a brain-swap & the autopsy to JFK's brain was done so with a brain that was not his.
the Knights Templar/Freemasonry run the CIA. Lodge VS Catholicism was why JFK was killed.
And then they mass-produced it and called it the COVID vaccine?
I swear Mythbusters did (tried) this and declared it impractical?
Mythbusters tried making a bullet, and shot them out of guns with powder, which would not work because the ice bullets exploded.
A dart delivering poison wouldn't be going nearly as fast and only needs to penetrate the skin.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0768478/
Frozen bullets would be very difficult to implement, no doubt. But it made for a memorable read from what is now an old comic/big little book if you remember those. For a more deadly weapon of choice, it appears the bad guys moved on to frozen MRNA encapsulated in lipid nano particles that can be shot into the victim.
I think you are underestimating the abilities of a bunch of cock sucking faggots with unlimited amounts of YOUR money...
We will probably never find out all the 'chit they have...
Movies are 20 to 30 years behind what they have generally speaking...
Specially in their gayness...
This has long been the limited hangout story regarding the House Assassinations Committee.
Everybody knows about this stupid, mythical prop. But very few know all 3 Mob Bosses connected to the JFK hit were liquidated in the 6 months prior to the hearings.
https://latinnewsagency.blogspot.com/2019/11/roselli.html?m=1
Trafficante, Giancana, and Roselli
I did not know that.
Here's a fairly complete article on the subject. https://allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun I disagree with the dismissal of the concept.
The dart would be aerodynamically stabilized; no spinning (standard for air pistols). The weapon would be a smoothbore air pistol and the dart could be accelerated by a cup (sabot) that would be shed once out of the muzzle.
Not silly at all. The hand must be supported, and standard shooting stances are two-handed. If you have the jitters when shooting, you shouldn't be shooting.
Ice at below freezing does not melt too quickly. A gelatine layer might insulate somewhat. Latex gloves are an old, old standby.
Who said battery operated? Probably driven by a CO2 cartridge and the line you see coming around to the breach is probably a gas tube. At, say, 100+ meters/second, a blunt nail would penetrate skin and flesh, so an ice dart would simply go in.
The article says the gun was a modified Colt model 1911, but there is no basis for that statement. Various details of the pistol shown are incommensurate with the Colt 1911 (slide shape, barrel arrangement sans recoil spring and plunger, different trigger and trigger guard, different grip shape, completely different breech design).
Stabilizing fins can be molded into the ice. The nose needs only to be pointy, not needle-like. In fact, you would like the ice "needle" to be moderately teardrop in shape. This is where a sabot would be highly useful.
The trials and tribulations of an assassin.
I was responding to the comment, but, yes, the headline was a jump to a conclusion.
Model 1911: The dart pistol was in no way compatible with the frame and slide of a 1911. Such an idea is sheer distraction. There is no reason to develop an air pistol that has the mechanics of a delayed-recoil semiautomatic pistol.
There's enough ignorance to go around. I was browsing in a gun store years ago and some customer was asking the clerk whether 7.62 mm Luger pistol ammunition was the same as 7.62 mm Mauser pistol ammunition. The clerk assured him that it was. (Those who know how much of a blooper this was will probably upbraid me for not saying anything to correct the mistake. The answer is that my Spidey Senses went off, but I wasn't that familiar with ammunition at that time in my life to barge into the discussion.)
Give it up. A conical projectile would be too skimpy for the diameter it would have to be (much less mass than a corresponding rod or needle of the same diameter). There is no advantage to imparting spin, when the angular momentum would be vanishingly small, and "spiral dents" would only impair the physical integrity of the projectile (ice). Flechette rounds have been shot from guns for decades, and an ice flechette would be straightforward.
Good try, but insufficient to preclude a working design. You make too many assumptions. But let's check. You don't actually estimate a volume for the ice "needle" but let us suppose a frontal area of 4 square millimeters and a length of 20 millimeters = 80 cubic millimeters = 0.08 cubic centimeter => 0.08 gram (water ice density ~ 1 gram/cc). Muzzle velocity is not limited so much by energy as by the expansion process, so a muzzle velocity of 150 m/sec is not unreasonable. This is where the sabot comes in, which would provide some mass to moderate the acceleration and structural support for the needle. (There is no shock wave inside an air pistol.) It would aerodynamically peel away once free of the muzzle.
A muzzle velocity of 150 m/sec would equate to 500 fps, or 340 mph, so stick your hand outside the window of your car at that speed and encounter a particle of hail and see if it penetrates. Something pointed would penetrate just fine. Arrows travel at 100 to 300 fps and penetrate most regularly. (I once pounded my fist against an interior wall and discovered I had been penetrated by a nail head. Never noticed it, and I can bet you my fist was not traveling anything close to 340 mph.)
The scope is not B.S. Ever shot a target at 50 feet? Even a 2x scope would come in handy for fine work. Having a reticle zeroed to the weapon would be a lot better than a standard pair of sights. (Why you would scorn something that would improve your aim suggests to me you are not cut out to be an assassin. But that's not a bad thing.)
So, the minimum perforation velocity does not seem to be a problem, and there is no minimum mass limitation if a sabot is used (as it surely would have to be in order to maintain support for the needle and avoid wear/tear against the gun barrel). It looks credible upon analysis.