Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who initiated the rebellion that took down former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, suggested he would do “everything” to block Joyce's power-for-McHenry plan. He argued on Thursday that it amounted to "twisting and torturing the constitution to empower a temporary speaker.”
Reps. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) and Scott Perry (R-Pa.), who chairs the Trump-aligned Freedom Caucus, also slammed the proposal to empower McHenry and indicated that conservatives would oppose it in large numbers.
"This is the biggest F.U. to Republican voters I’ve ever seen," Banks said.
Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) took the broader fury to a new level during Thursday's meeting by asking Jordan to step down as speaker nominee if he supports empowering McHenry, describing his simultaneous refusal to end his campaign as self-serving, according to two people familiar with her remarks.
“If you look at the mix of who is voting against him now, it’s more the senior members. And they’re just resolved and they’re not going to take that, [Good! Vote Every Single One Out]” said Rep. Kevin Hern (R-Okla.), who backs Jordan but has flirted with throwing his hat in the ring if the Ohioan withdraws.
I agree 110%! It can’t be one of the 10% that’ll survive the Congressional arrests to lead us out. A “fall guy” is needed. It’s either going to be a “nobody knows much about him/her” Rep, or Jefferies. It’s gotta be someone to help lead the train-wreck, or be totally incompetent to make clear decisions when we hit and lean out off the precipice. An idiot doing nothing as the US and world are going ape-shit.
It won't happen. You think they don't have a plan in place to blame Republicans? Even if the economy crashes, they'll blame it on President Trump. Its a good thing he still controls the military though, else we would be in really hot water. I think we won't have a crash, but things will progressively get better. Then President Trump can announce that he is the true president and he is responsible for all the progress that has been made. The Deep State can't fight against that.
Yes, he was handpicked by President Trump, a guy by the name of Kevin Owen McCarthy. I pointed out that we should follow President Trump and trust the plan, but people decided they wanted to do things their own way and look where it got them.
"As we’ve been discussing on some recent shows this week, while it would be nice to have an America First Congress imposing or defending the will of the American people, at this stage of the Info War game, it may actually be better if Congress was paralyzed, at least temporarily.
On an Actual level, we don’t really want most of these cretins having the ability to declare war on our behalf; on a Narrative level, the American people are being shown that, in the midst of one of the most contentious and tense political and international environments in decades, the U.S. is completely rudderless, putting even more focus onto the Biden Admin.
Sometimes, bad news is good news in the Mind War.”
And his slap down of Pelosi and Hoyer points in a different direction. Lots of bullshit being put out for show by both sides in both directions. Nobody wants the People to be on target because if we are then the other side is too.
"There is some debate about what powers the speaker pro tempore has under the rule, but it says plainly that the person's primary responsibility is to oversee the House's election of a new speaker."
I like this point though:
"In the absence of a speaker, the House of Representatives has gone dormant. No bills have come up for a vote. New pieces of legislation are not being sent to committee for consideration. And while the world is looking to the United States for decisive action, the prospects for electing a new speaker right now"
Gotta love it. Note: commentary via NYT so do with it what you will.
It makes no sense to appoint an interim speaker if all they can do is conduct a vote for a Speaker. What's the point? They already have that with the pro tem position. I'm willing to wait for the dust to settle but I think the NYT analysis of the situation is wrong.
Good point. What it seems to me is 1) this is perfect to keep the house from doing much of anything, think declare war or sent more us tax dollars out of the country
Or 2) McHenry is a Rino and his powers will be expanded so Pelosi et al. can still call the shots
Motion to vacate McHenry probably won't pass because the dems agree with him being there so they won't vote to oust him like they did McCarthy. Even if it did happen, next guy on McCarthy's secret list gets the nod - wash, rinse, repeat.
If we're honest, and look beyond Jordan's fiery rhetoric, look at who Jordan really is, it would not be a wholly unreasonable option to thank that Jordan was part of the McCarthy game plan.
Im offically confused. I think/thought i have a decent grasp. The hipocracy being exposed is right on q but the speakership has me freaking confused as hell
The chaos is a play to prevent taxpayer money being railroaded through to support war. The kneejerk reaction would be to throw billions at Israel like in Ukraine. They are dragging out this process so the public's emotional influence cant be used to justify emergency funds with no oversight on them
Makes sense. Jordan was never going to win. A Trump endorsed speaker cannot be at the helm during this collapse.
A theory with merit. It was useful in outing some more RINOS.
I think this is one reason Jordan should keep going. First there were 20 RINOS, then 22. How far can we go? The more the better.
While Jim may lose the vote for SOTH, it is far better in the long run if ALL of the RINOs lose their next elections.
Clean the DAMN HOUSE!
Additional sauce here.
I agree 110%! It can’t be one of the 10% that’ll survive the Congressional arrests to lead us out. A “fall guy” is needed. It’s either going to be a “nobody knows much about him/her” Rep, or Jefferies. It’s gotta be someone to help lead the train-wreck, or be totally incompetent to make clear decisions when we hit and lean out off the precipice. An idiot doing nothing as the US and world are going ape-shit.
Good Call. The Cabal needs to be at the helm when the economy crashes and burns so they'll be held responsible for it
It won't happen. You think they don't have a plan in place to blame Republicans? Even if the economy crashes, they'll blame it on President Trump. Its a good thing he still controls the military though, else we would be in really hot water. I think we won't have a crash, but things will progressively get better. Then President Trump can announce that he is the true president and he is responsible for all the progress that has been made. The Deep State can't fight against that.
I like it.
And collapse is imminent
Is there one person within that waste of 68 square miles with a fucking nutsack? Just ONE person. I honestly think not.
Maybe one of the ladies does....
Don‘t assume gender!
Maybe that guy Boebert was caught fondling in the movie theater?
Lol, yup. He's OUT!
Just let him take a quick nap to get his energy back!
I thought you were going to do the entire Lott to God plea there for a second.
Lol. Not even God would be convinced there were enough to avoid "Sodom and Gomorrah-ing" that city....
Yes, he was handpicked by President Trump, a guy by the name of Kevin Owen McCarthy. I pointed out that we should follow President Trump and trust the plan, but people decided they wanted to do things their own way and look where it got them.
I thought this was a good take by Burning Bright
"As we’ve been discussing on some recent shows this week, while it would be nice to have an America First Congress imposing or defending the will of the American people, at this stage of the Info War game, it may actually be better if Congress was paralyzed, at least temporarily.
On an Actual level, we don’t really want most of these cretins having the ability to declare war on our behalf; on a Narrative level, the American people are being shown that, in the midst of one of the most contentious and tense political and international environments in decades, the U.S. is completely rudderless, putting even more focus onto the Biden Admin.
Sometimes, bad news is good news in the Mind War.”
I've been telling my husband this all week. He thinks yelling at the tv helps. Lol
This is still interesting
Thanks, I hadn’t seen this
A Congress in chaos isnt necessarily a bad thing at the moment. It is also wise to not assume who and what Patrick McHenry stands for at this time.
Im in 'Lets see what happens" mode for now. A quick judgement by me isnt going to push this along any faster.
I'm always in the "wait and see" mode. FYI, McHenry authored the debt ceiling deal, seems like a cabal player on the surface to me.
And his slap down of Pelosi and Hoyer points in a different direction. Lots of bullshit being put out for show by both sides in both directions. Nobody wants the People to be on target because if we are then the other side is too.
Jordan backs off, Sydney Powell pleads guilty and I have the squirts. What a crappy Thursday. In more ways than one!!!!
I have no more fucks left to give. I'm sick of the bs and it seems nothing we do makes a whole lot of difference.🙄
"with full powers until..."
I didn't see where McHenry gets full powers????
You know how Congress works ...
Abracadabra ... and we make it so!
I guess that part is still being fought out on crap hill.
https://share.newsbreak.com/571ftdti
Serving as interim, what's that mean in the normal sense of the word?
"There is some debate about what powers the speaker pro tempore has under the rule, but it says plainly that the person's primary responsibility is to oversee the House's election of a new speaker."
I like this point though: "In the absence of a speaker, the House of Representatives has gone dormant. No bills have come up for a vote. New pieces of legislation are not being sent to committee for consideration. And while the world is looking to the United States for decisive action, the prospects for electing a new speaker right now" Gotta love it. Note: commentary via NYT so do with it what you will.
It makes no sense to appoint an interim speaker if all they can do is conduct a vote for a Speaker. What's the point? They already have that with the pro tem position. I'm willing to wait for the dust to settle but I think the NYT analysis of the situation is wrong.
Good point. What it seems to me is 1) this is perfect to keep the house from doing much of anything, think declare war or sent more us tax dollars out of the country Or 2) McHenry is a Rino and his powers will be expanded so Pelosi et al. can still call the shots
Hold another vote of no confidence
Motion to vacate McHenry probably won't pass because the dems agree with him being there so they won't vote to oust him like they did McCarthy. Even if it did happen, next guy on McCarthy's secret list gets the nod - wash, rinse, repeat.
As long as they accomplish nothing I'm fine with the use of Hadrian tactics here. They aren’t doing our will then they don’t get their toys.
How are we doing with the J6 video ?
Wait, you're telling me there's video?/sarc
If we're honest, and look beyond Jordan's fiery rhetoric, look at who Jordan really is, it would not be a wholly unreasonable option to thank that Jordan was part of the McCarthy game plan.
Just the vote outed quite a few good ammo
I tried to warn you all about Jim Jordan.
Jordan = canary in the mine for Trump support among the House. Trump backs Jordan, and now we know who exactly in the (R) who will NOT back Trump.
Charlie Kirk says not so fast
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/breaking-rinos-win-jim-jordan-withdraws-speakers-race/
That is yesterdays recording.
Shhhh, don't tell him...
He’s still running?
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1715083495620464852?s=46&t=ervFc-Sy0TepkdjO7N0trA
Must be the PLAN.
Im offically confused. I think/thought i have a decent grasp. The hipocracy being exposed is right on q but the speakership has me freaking confused as hell
The chaos is a play to prevent taxpayer money being railroaded through to support war. The kneejerk reaction would be to throw billions at Israel like in Ukraine. They are dragging out this process so the public's emotional influence cant be used to justify emergency funds with no oversight on them
Update to this, Jim is not backing out after a threat to vacate McHenry immediately.
Would have liked to see Trey Gowdy get nominated.