Complete UKR surrender. Complete surrender of all military equipment. RU territory will range from Karkhov to Odessa, Complete control of Black Sea coast. West UKR can not join NATO, have military aid, and they don't care who controls it. Openly offering to the Pols.
Pretty much what I've been espousing throughout entire conflict. RU govt has been very open about this stuff since the beginning.
Poland borders the top left corner of Ukraine, Hungary borders the bottom left corner.
Let's not forget the other part of Western Ukraine - Transcarpathia with its ethnic Hungarians. Who have historically not been treated so well by the Ukraine government.
I would not be surprised to see Hungary get this area back into their country.
If Poland annexes what is left of W. UKR then it is no longer UKR.... it is Poland, as it once was.
Also, Poland already borders Russian territory: Kaliningrad. So perhaps my grammar was wrong, but sentiment is still the same. Obviously I was referring to the possibility of a rump state leftover that Poland, Hungary, nor Lithuania chooses to "adopt".
Sorry, you were sold a lie. Wake up to the truth. The zionists used you.
Sucks but such is life.
Your 'compatriots' chose to become nazis, and they will end up like nazis.
Did you complain when your 'compatriots' shelled donbas for 8 years? When they burned people in Odessa alive? When they had a coup where your legitimate president was ousted and a zionist was placed in his stead?
No? Well. As I said, you were conned. Sucks.
And in reality your county never existed before 1991. It's made up. Sorry.
Kievan RUS. I.e. russian. Not kievan urkork or something.
jewkraine is a construct. You actually know what ukraine means in russian. Border lands. Who names the country 'border lands'. Nobody, that's who. Because it's a lie.
As I said, your entire 'country' is a lie. But this is what zionists do. Just as they claim Hannibal was black, ancient egyptians were black etc etc.
They do similar things when they constuct 'countries' by brainwashing populations. it's an old trick.
Your basic argument is that you're the real russians, which you now call ukrainians, instead of the 'other' russians from Moscow.
Well, guess what, there were no ukrainians at the time. There were russians from different cities/areas. But they were called RUSSIANS, not ukainians.
Jewkraine is a construct, specifically constructed by zionists for strife, division and...war. As you see right now.
This is some incredibly interesting history. I would love to make time to learn about this entire area & history from some of the original sources.
Many on this forum think they are fully educated, instead of being willing to dig in & determine what is the reality of the situation.
Ultimately it seems like leadership in Ukraine has been infiltrated by what many call here the Khazarian Mafia. I have no been able to confirm this, though there is plenty of evidence that points to it.
Now you offer up some regional historical context, which I believe should be examined & put into or against the other evidences available to determine what is really happening.
Ultimately I see this as a destruction of those who refused to accept NAZI control with the wars happening for the past couple decades, & now Putin has come in to try & clean it up with the need to salvage & protect those oil pipelines.
I feel terrible for the every day person in that entire region, and elsewhere in the world, that is shoved into war because some other foreigner wants control & money flow.
I pray for your family still over there & hope that they can come out of this devastating mess on top.
Thank you for the regional context. When these are left out, history & context are too easily removed.
As enjoyable as the debate above was, this is a much better response.
If JulesVerne’s comments are earnest (no offense, but we can’t know that, nor can you know if I’m earnest, for that matter), the response was, maybe not the greatest choice of tone.
Random fun fact on Nixon, in honor of the 33 American biolabs within Ukraine’s borders… [they] also hated him because he shut down the USG’s National offensive biowarfare research at Fort Detrich, where they had been experimenting on seventh day adventists who were conscientious objectors to Vietnam.
I’m sure [they] got rid of it. What were they planning before that?
Choice of tone really needs to be considered on this board as this is the first place most will come for exposure to Q ideas.
We must be conscientious of where new readers are coming from mentally/in mindset. I don't think we need to skirt any issue, though any information can be recieved easily with the proper tone. It may not be information the reader agrees with, but the tone makes it paletable.
It is good that is coming to a conclusion. A million Ukrainians needlessly died due to Western corrupt politics and bureaucracy and crazy Western backed Banderites ethnically cleansing two entire oblasts...
Russia didn't do this. The globalists who can't be named pushed you in to killing yourselves because they hate you, your lineage, and saw an easy opportunity to make some quick cash at the expense of your suicide. You should have shot zelensky on day one and none of this would have happened. Next time, don't poke the fucking bear.
I have no sympathy for the biggest illegal organ trafficking network in 2015 and a bunch of pro-Nazi ideals within the Ukrainian government. The sooner Putin takes control the better.
The "money" we sent to Ukraine was mostly used equipment from the US military. The US military then spent the money buying new equipment to replace the used equipment that was sent to Ukraine. The gift involved (mostly) is in the form of kickbacks from defense contractors.
RU has already put out it's concessions on TAS.
Complete UKR surrender. Complete surrender of all military equipment. RU territory will range from Karkhov to Odessa, Complete control of Black Sea coast. West UKR can not join NATO, have military aid, and they don't care who controls it. Openly offering to the Pols.
Pretty much what I've been espousing throughout entire conflict. RU govt has been very open about this stuff since the beginning.
Necessary to control the recent (sic) oil/gas discoveries off Ukraine's coast.
Can't have any competitor's sitting between Russia and Europe.
More specifically, it won't be traded with the US dollar any longer. Ukraine could be the final nail in the coffin for the petrodollar
Hopefully that includes Zelensky being turned over.
Poland borders the top left corner of Ukraine, Hungary borders the bottom left corner.
Let's not forget the other part of Western Ukraine - Transcarpathia with its ethnic Hungarians. Who have historically not been treated so well by the Ukraine government.
I would not be surprised to see Hungary get this area back into their country.
Poland is in NATO so that sentence contradicts itself.
If Poland annexes what is left of W. UKR then it is no longer UKR.... it is Poland, as it once was.
Also, Poland already borders Russian territory: Kaliningrad. So perhaps my grammar was wrong, but sentiment is still the same. Obviously I was referring to the possibility of a rump state leftover that Poland, Hungary, nor Lithuania chooses to "adopt".
Maybe Pols need to step away from NATO for this to happen?
Just considering odd options that likely aren't in play.
Did you see their "election"?
Not yet. Any chance you can point me towards some interesting info on it?
Sorry, you were sold a lie. Wake up to the truth. The zionists used you.
Sucks but such is life.
Your 'compatriots' chose to become nazis, and they will end up like nazis.
Did you complain when your 'compatriots' shelled donbas for 8 years? When they burned people in Odessa alive? When they had a coup where your legitimate president was ousted and a zionist was placed in his stead?
No? Well. As I said, you were conned. Sucks.
And in reality your county never existed before 1991. It's made up. Sorry.
Truth Bomb! Oofta.
I know next to nothing on the topic of Ukraine etc…
But in the guys defense I do recall a pretty juicy Q post directly calling Puttin out as a puppet of the Roth variety I believe…
I can see it… military style dictatorship similar to NK… Trump went in and cut the strings and put them under control of WHs IMO…
u/suleo wrote: "And in reality your county never existed before 1991. It's made up. Sorry."
You are brainwashed.
In 998, Grand Prince Vladimir of Kyievan Rus brought Christianity to Ukraine. Back then, Moscow was just a swamp land paying taxes to the Turkish Han.
In 1147, Prince Yuri Dolgorukiy, son of Grand Prince of Kyiv Vladimir II Monomakh, built Moscow.
In 1654, Bohdan Khmelnytsky united Ukraine with Russia. You probably never heard about him. Learn some history.
Kek.
Kievan RUS. I.e. russian. Not kievan urkork or something.
jewkraine is a construct. You actually know what ukraine means in russian. Border lands. Who names the country 'border lands'. Nobody, that's who. Because it's a lie.
As I said, your entire 'country' is a lie. But this is what zionists do. Just as they claim Hannibal was black, ancient egyptians were black etc etc.
They do similar things when they constuct 'countries' by brainwashing populations. it's an old trick.
Your basic argument is that you're the real russians, which you now call ukrainians, instead of the 'other' russians from Moscow.
Well, guess what, there were no ukrainians at the time. There were russians from different cities/areas. But they were called RUSSIANS, not ukainians.
Jewkraine is a construct, specifically constructed by zionists for strife, division and...war. As you see right now.
u/suleo wrote: "your entire 'life' is a lie"
You did not even address my historical arguments. Socrates, how should I respond to him?
Socrates: "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers."
Socrates was a pederast.
"Insult me for molesting young boys all you want you're just a slanderous bigot" Fucking sounds familiar.
This is some incredibly interesting history. I would love to make time to learn about this entire area & history from some of the original sources.
Many on this forum think they are fully educated, instead of being willing to dig in & determine what is the reality of the situation.
Ultimately it seems like leadership in Ukraine has been infiltrated by what many call here the Khazarian Mafia. I have no been able to confirm this, though there is plenty of evidence that points to it.
Now you offer up some regional historical context, which I believe should be examined & put into or against the other evidences available to determine what is really happening.
Ultimately I see this as a destruction of those who refused to accept NAZI control with the wars happening for the past couple decades, & now Putin has come in to try & clean it up with the need to salvage & protect those oil pipelines.
I feel terrible for the every day person in that entire region, and elsewhere in the world, that is shoved into war because some other foreigner wants control & money flow.
I pray for your family still over there & hope that they can come out of this devastating mess on top.
Thank you for the regional context. When these are left out, history & context are too easily removed.
As enjoyable as the debate above was, this is a much better response.
If JulesVerne’s comments are earnest (no offense, but we can’t know that, nor can you know if I’m earnest, for that matter), the response was, maybe not the greatest choice of tone.
Random fun fact on Nixon, in honor of the 33 American biolabs within Ukraine’s borders… [they] also hated him because he shut down the USG’s National offensive biowarfare research at Fort Detrich, where they had been experimenting on seventh day adventists who were conscientious objectors to Vietnam.
I’m sure [they] got rid of it. What were they planning before that?
After?
u/#mikeyep
Thank you.
Choice of tone really needs to be considered on this board as this is the first place most will come for exposure to Q ideas.
We must be conscientious of where new readers are coming from mentally/in mindset. I don't think we need to skirt any issue, though any information can be recieved easily with the proper tone. It may not be information the reader agrees with, but the tone makes it paletable.
Yep!
Downdoots show up on the weirdest posts sometimes!
It is good that is coming to a conclusion. A million Ukrainians needlessly died due to Western corrupt politics and bureaucracy and crazy Western backed Banderites ethnically cleansing two entire oblasts...
Russia didn't do this. The globalists who can't be named pushed you in to killing yourselves because they hate you, your lineage, and saw an easy opportunity to make some quick cash at the expense of your suicide. You should have shot zelensky on day one and none of this would have happened. Next time, don't poke the fucking bear.
How does you do the math it's over get your little panties twisted? Do facts offend you?
Your country still needs to lose.
I have no sympathy for the biggest illegal organ trafficking network in 2015 and a bunch of pro-Nazi ideals within the Ukrainian government. The sooner Putin takes control the better.
But what about all that money we gave to Ukraine to win the war that "can't be lost?" Asking for a friend.
Ukraine has been a grift operation and hub for all manner of contraband trafficking. Needed to be shut down.
Can a honkey get a refund?
Kek
The "money" we sent to Ukraine was mostly used equipment from the US military. The US military then spent the money buying new equipment to replace the used equipment that was sent to Ukraine. The gift involved (mostly) is in the form of kickbacks from defense contractors.
but what about all the liberals who swore up & down Russia had no chance?
what about all the Ukraine flags being sold so liberals & others could virtue signal on the other side of the world?
should we all send another $100 billion, would that finally topple Russia?
99% of the media couldn't have been wrong about this "war" could they?
all sarcasm.
Besides Zelensky only has 2 yachts and he wants 3
He could use a few more houses also, right?
https://twitter.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1737473751166472514
https://nitter.net/KitKlarenberg/status/1737473751166472514
Joe is gonna negotiate Zelenskyys surrender😂
Alexander Mercouris read out the Russian surrender terms the other day.
Yes, two days ago. The Duran has been very accurate with their reporting.
Except on China. That is one area they have missed the mark.
That didn't take long after the money ran out.
He will get it all under a single condition. Don't talk about labs.
Mockngbird: Russia sends diplomats to negociate its surrender to Nato forces under the weight of Ukraine's grip.
RU diplomatic flights run routinely to DC. How else do they transport diplomatic pouch mail?
Sending in Hunter’s pure white snow in a diplomatic pouch.