Nope. We don’t need school vouchers. We need the government to get COMPLETELY OUT of EVERYTHING to do with education (and virtually everything else). Children are the responsibility of their parents.
How has the uptick in infertility, miscarriages, and child deaths from the poison effected enrollment? Seems all is going according to their plan. Less funding to service the populace. The current regime will not transfer the funds to the parents nor reduce property taxes.
It will eventually end up like 1984. Where it's compulsory more so than now, and you will get taken away to the Ministry of Love if you don't. That's somewhat like their plan
Good, and I heard from a parent being absolutely hounded by their pediatrician on getting their kids injected... They said in a very concerned tone, that schools were turning away kids not up to date...
That's the cover they're using for the increasingly empty schools.... not that many people have are stepping up and protecting their kids.
The kids still attending public schools; if they survive it, will definitely feel a certain way about their parents when this is over.
Not with millions of illegal immigrants. My kids school is overflowing with foreign kids. My daughter and one other child were the only whites in her class. It's so bad that the gym is housing three extra classrooms. Our community was mostly white but now it's over 50% South American. Family sizes are 5+ children. I work so hard for retirement benefits and caring for my family just so people from another country illegally walk in and take benefits that they never eared or paid into the system. They just take.
its the largest bribe in american history.right before our eyes,we will give you all the free shit that poor hard working americans have to pay, for just one little thing ,A VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS
Oh but can’t you hear the wailing of teacher unions and their woke leaders nationwide? These useless grifters of member dues and our tax dollars will be outed soon when home schooled students excel in test scores and academic achievements. The entire educational system in this country has gone full on Marxist and is in need of total revision and re-imagining without leftist indoctrination and ideology anywhere. Bring on MAGA teachers of excellence, MAGA school boards guided by parents who aren’t confused by gender or think that math is racist. Liberal progressivist thinking has led to it’s own demise and needs to be tossed into the trash in of history.
Why would the schools collapse? They're paid for by taxes. I pay $5k a year in school taxes and don't have kids. Only thing that will end schools is ending property taxes
I would think, all these taxes and fees must be transformed to usage based taxes only. If you're not using it or that much, you shouldn't have to pay for some one else's heavy usage.
Looking at public scholl failures in math, reading, science and history we can conclude public education is a waste of money and time. Ther are better ways to educate our kids Nd help them to actually learn.
Ever since peanut man created the dept of the education to grift votes off the teachers union the USA crashed from 1st in the world to shithole status in education.
Why Do We Have a Department of Education? Jimmy Carter's Debt to a Teachers Union.
Public education existed well before 1980, but an unpopular President Carter wanted the nation's largest union on his side before an election.
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With Betsy DeVos just confirmed as the new Secretary of Education, it's worth taking a look back at the events that led the creation of this cabinet-level department.
Public education (including federal involvement in public education) was a thing in the United States for a couple hundred years before 1979, when Congress narrowly approved the cleaving of a new Department of Education (DoED) out of the already existing Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. But the newly created federal bureaucracy was more of a favor to a large and powerful special interest group on behalf of a beleaguered president than a necessary reorganization to allow the federal government to "meet its responsibilities in education more effectively, more efficiently, and more responsively," as then-President Jimmy Carter put it.
Upon signing the Department of Education Organization Act Statement in October 1979, Carter said:
Primary responsibility for education should rest with those States, localities, and private institutions that have made our Nation's educational system the best in the world, but the Federal Government has for too long failed to play its own supporting role in education as effectively as it could. Instead of assisting school officials at the local level, it has too often added to their burden. Instead of setting a strong administrative model, the Federal structure has contributed to bureaucratic buck passing. Instead of simulating needed debate of educational issues, the Federal Government has confused its role of junior partner in American education with that of silent partner.
Essentially, Carter's argument—similar to the argument President George W. Bush used to create the bloated, expensive, and ineffective Department of Homeland Security—is that because of all the "bureaucratic buck passing," a new bureaucracy must be created.
Creating the DoED was Carter's fulfillment of a 1976 presidential campaign promise, when he earned the endorsement of the largest labor union in the United States—the National Education Association (NEA). As the Washington Post reported in 1980:
The NEA gave its first presidential endorsement ever in 1976, when Walter Mondale promised them, at an NEA annual meeting, that the Carter administration would form an education department. At the 1976 Democratic National Convention, more delegates — 180 — belonged to the NEA than any other group of any kind. They've endorsed Carter for 1980, and were a major force in getting delegates to the Iowa caucuses…
Is the department, then, a creature of the NEA?
"That's true," says NEA executive director Terry Herndon. "There'd be no department without the NEA."
By the time the bill calling for the creation of the DoED had been passed in Congress, President Carter's approval rating was at its nadir—below 30 percent—in large part thanks to an international oil and energy crisis contributing to a tanking economy and a national "crisis of confidence."
A study of the DoED's creation by Georgia State University found that although the department "was fairly low on the list of priorities," President Carter's "Domestic Policy staff did its research, sent people to testify on behalf of the department in Congress, and hoped that their endorsement of the Department would help ensure the backing of the NEA and its members for the 1980 election."
A section on the DoED in the Cato Institute's Handbook for Congress includes a passage about the lukewarm support from even congressional Democrats for creating the DoED, who were more motivated to keep a Democrat in the White House than to create a new federal bureaucracy:
According to Rep. Benjamin Rosenthal (D-N.Y.), Congress went along with the plan out of "not wanting to embarrass the president." Also, many members of Congress had made promises to educators in their home districts to support the new department. The Wall Street Journal reported the admission of one House Democrat: "The idea of an Education Department is really a bad one. But it's NEA's top priority. There are school teachers in every congressional district and most of us simply don't need the aggravation of taking them on."
Just today, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) has introduced H.R. 899, a one-sentence long bill which would eliminate the Department of Education in its entirety by the end of 2018. Check back later for more Reason coverage of Massie's bill.
But it doesn't matter how many students are enrolled! School taxes are levied on EVERY property owner! (at least that's how it is in NY) We have a tax assessed to EVERY property owner for a water distribution system, even if the property is vacant with no water hookup! Their rationality is that it has the capability to be connected some time in the future! And this "water tax" is based on a 30-year bond they got approved 18 years ago! I am so sick of the corruption/incompetence of taxpayer funded entities here in NY! I will be so happy when I am able to move away, hopefully within 6 years. (might be too late then; they may have destroyed the state so badly by then that it won't be possible to sell our house!)
I hear ya. I stopped paying property tax from last December here in CA. Will see what happens. Like you said, most of the tax allocations they do with property tax - I have nothing to do with those. I don't even use the road that much these days, hardly twice a month for grocery runs. I would think, all these taxes and fees must be transformed to usage based taxes only. If you're not using it or that much, you shouldn't have to pay for some one else's heavy usage.
A trend I hope continues and next step is to give the money from taxes back to the parents to use for their choice of education for their children.
Florida already does this. Open to all with no income limits since last year.
Need school vouchers across the USA
Nope. We don’t need school vouchers. We need the government to get COMPLETELY OUT of EVERYTHING to do with education (and virtually everything else). Children are the responsibility of their parents.
True. Eliminate property taxes.
My point is that it's a local/state fight, and it can be done.
Making me want to move to Florida more and more…..
They still make you pay taxes (property tax) with yearly increases.
Teacher Unions/US Department of Education must be dealt with. Any ideas?
Yup, close them down. Only local school governance.
I’ve said that my whole life.
How has the uptick in infertility, miscarriages, and child deaths from the poison effected enrollment? Seems all is going according to their plan. Less funding to service the populace. The current regime will not transfer the funds to the parents nor reduce property taxes.
It will eventually end up like 1984. Where it's compulsory more so than now, and you will get taken away to the Ministry of Love if you don't. That's somewhat like their plan
Taken to the ministry of something...not sure about the love part...
Good, and I heard from a parent being absolutely hounded by their pediatrician on getting their kids injected... They said in a very concerned tone, that schools were turning away kids not up to date...
That's the cover they're using for the increasingly empty schools.... not that many people have are stepping up and protecting their kids.
The kids still attending public schools; if they survive it, will definitely feel a certain way about their parents when this is over.
My county has many kids with vaccine exemptions. They need the money.
I know someone who has to drive her daughter to the next state every morning so she can attend school without a shot
Wow, I hate she has do that, but man Huge RESPECT for that Mom!!
Not with millions of illegal immigrants. My kids school is overflowing with foreign kids. My daughter and one other child were the only whites in her class. It's so bad that the gym is housing three extra classrooms. Our community was mostly white but now it's over 50% South American. Family sizes are 5+ children. I work so hard for retirement benefits and caring for my family just so people from another country illegally walk in and take benefits that they never eared or paid into the system. They just take.
End all immigration legal and illegal.
its the largest bribe in american history.right before our eyes,we will give you all the free shit that poor hard working americans have to pay, for just one little thing ,A VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS
This is happening in calirado. A news article had denver bragging that while school enrollment is down overall in the state that Denver’s is up...
Well no shit Sherlock governor poleass invited Mexico and South America up to camp over winter. The illegal alien kids get meals and heat school days.
Oh but can’t you hear the wailing of teacher unions and their woke leaders nationwide? These useless grifters of member dues and our tax dollars will be outed soon when home schooled students excel in test scores and academic achievements. The entire educational system in this country has gone full on Marxist and is in need of total revision and re-imagining without leftist indoctrination and ideology anywhere. Bring on MAGA teachers of excellence, MAGA school boards guided by parents who aren’t confused by gender or think that math is racist. Liberal progressivist thinking has led to it’s own demise and needs to be tossed into the trash in of history.
Why would the schools collapse? They're paid for by taxes. I pay $5k a year in school taxes and don't have kids. Only thing that will end schools is ending property taxes
I would think, all these taxes and fees must be transformed to usage based taxes only. If you're not using it or that much, you shouldn't have to pay for some one else's heavy usage.
I would love this. Save us thousands a year but would likely cost a ton of teaching jobs in our district.
Imagine what happens when Trump deports all the illegals.
Tell you two things that haven’t decreased: property taxes or the number of teachers.
Do t worry, I’m sure their plan is to stuff public schools with illegals.
We should stop paying property taxes and fight back.
Homeschool.
Looking at public scholl failures in math, reading, science and history we can conclude public education is a waste of money and time. Ther are better ways to educate our kids Nd help them to actually learn.
Ever since peanut man created the dept of the education to grift votes off the teachers union the USA crashed from 1st in the world to shithole status in education.
Why Do We Have a Department of Education? Jimmy Carter's Debt to a Teachers Union. Public education existed well before 1980, but an unpopular President Carter wanted the nation's largest union on his side before an election.
ANTHONY FISHER | 2.7.2017 1:15 PM Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on RedditShare by emailPrint friendly versionCopy page URL Large image on homepages | ABCNews.com (ABCNews.com) School Daze Malaise ABCNews.com With Betsy DeVos just confirmed as the new Secretary of Education, it's worth taking a look back at the events that led the creation of this cabinet-level department.
Public education (including federal involvement in public education) was a thing in the United States for a couple hundred years before 1979, when Congress narrowly approved the cleaving of a new Department of Education (DoED) out of the already existing Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. But the newly created federal bureaucracy was more of a favor to a large and powerful special interest group on behalf of a beleaguered president than a necessary reorganization to allow the federal government to "meet its responsibilities in education more effectively, more efficiently, and more responsively," as then-President Jimmy Carter put it.
Upon signing the Department of Education Organization Act Statement in October 1979, Carter said:
Primary responsibility for education should rest with those States, localities, and private institutions that have made our Nation's educational system the best in the world, but the Federal Government has for too long failed to play its own supporting role in education as effectively as it could. Instead of assisting school officials at the local level, it has too often added to their burden. Instead of setting a strong administrative model, the Federal structure has contributed to bureaucratic buck passing. Instead of simulating needed debate of educational issues, the Federal Government has confused its role of junior partner in American education with that of silent partner. Essentially, Carter's argument—similar to the argument President George W. Bush used to create the bloated, expensive, and ineffective Department of Homeland Security—is that because of all the "bureaucratic buck passing," a new bureaucracy must be created.
Creating the DoED was Carter's fulfillment of a 1976 presidential campaign promise, when he earned the endorsement of the largest labor union in the United States—the National Education Association (NEA). As the Washington Post reported in 1980:
The NEA gave its first presidential endorsement ever in 1976, when Walter Mondale promised them, at an NEA annual meeting, that the Carter administration would form an education department. At the 1976 Democratic National Convention, more delegates — 180 — belonged to the NEA than any other group of any kind. They've endorsed Carter for 1980, and were a major force in getting delegates to the Iowa caucuses…
Is the department, then, a creature of the NEA?
"That's true," says NEA executive director Terry Herndon. "There'd be no department without the NEA." By the time the bill calling for the creation of the DoED had been passed in Congress, President Carter's approval rating was at its nadir—below 30 percent—in large part thanks to an international oil and energy crisis contributing to a tanking economy and a national "crisis of confidence."
A study of the DoED's creation by Georgia State University found that although the department "was fairly low on the list of priorities," President Carter's "Domestic Policy staff did its research, sent people to testify on behalf of the department in Congress, and hoped that their endorsement of the Department would help ensure the backing of the NEA and its members for the 1980 election."
A section on the DoED in the Cato Institute's Handbook for Congress includes a passage about the lukewarm support from even congressional Democrats for creating the DoED, who were more motivated to keep a Democrat in the White House than to create a new federal bureaucracy:
According to Rep. Benjamin Rosenthal (D-N.Y.), Congress went along with the plan out of "not wanting to embarrass the president." Also, many members of Congress had made promises to educators in their home districts to support the new department. The Wall Street Journal reported the admission of one House Democrat: "The idea of an Education Department is really a bad one. But it's NEA's top priority. There are school teachers in every congressional district and most of us simply don't need the aggravation of taking them on." Just today, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) has introduced H.R. 899, a one-sentence long bill which would eliminate the Department of Education in its entirety by the end of 2018. Check back later for more Reason coverage of Massie's bill.
Cause and effect.
It will continue to decline. Thank you to the parents who have awakened, your children's minds, hearts and bodies are much safer.
Unfortunately some places are using the schools to house " migrants "
🤯😲!
THIS IS A MASSIVE WIN!!!!!
Good news. Get woke / go broke
Keep up homeschooling your kids or sending them to religious schools that don’t teach wokeness
We also need school vouchers for parents to take with them. The Federal Board of Education needs to be fully removed.
Maybe when the public schools go back under state and local control will they then become better
Its funny because they also wanted their potential students killed in the womb before birth.
But it doesn't matter how many students are enrolled! School taxes are levied on EVERY property owner! (at least that's how it is in NY) We have a tax assessed to EVERY property owner for a water distribution system, even if the property is vacant with no water hookup! Their rationality is that it has the capability to be connected some time in the future! And this "water tax" is based on a 30-year bond they got approved 18 years ago! I am so sick of the corruption/incompetence of taxpayer funded entities here in NY! I will be so happy when I am able to move away, hopefully within 6 years. (might be too late then; they may have destroyed the state so badly by then that it won't be possible to sell our house!)
I hear ya. I stopped paying property tax from last December here in CA. Will see what happens. Like you said, most of the tax allocations they do with property tax - I have nothing to do with those. I don't even use the road that much these days, hardly twice a month for grocery runs. I would think, all these taxes and fees must be transformed to usage based taxes only. If you're not using it or that much, you shouldn't have to pay for some one else's heavy usage.
You just stopped paying it? Youre not worried about that?
A little. Worst comes to worst, I'll just sell the house and move elsewhere.
Great news! teachers are psychotic these days