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How would you explain the Russia / Ukraine war to someone who doesn't know anything about it?
posted 1 year ago by gobby 1 year ago by gobby +70 / -0

Think of a teenager, or a young adult who has no interest in politics. All they've ever heard is that Russia and Putin are evil. If you had an opportunity to explain to them why the war is happening - what would you say?

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– propertyofUniverse 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

I'd consider telling them about NATO expansion and how there was a deal in 1989 where Gorbachev took down the wall and started to dismantle the USSR in exchange for NATO going no further eastwards and that the west broke their promise and having them meddle in Ukraine is an existential threat for Russia because missiles can be launched towards Moscow which they don't have time to stop.

Then point out the 5Bn which the US put into radicalising the UkroNazis over 25 years and the color revolution in 2014 where some unknown snipers shot both police and protesters and Yanukovich had to run away and barely got away with his life.

then mention that awful woman in the state department Nuland and her "F the EU" and "Yats is our man" and how she, along with Geoffrey Pyatt organised the coup.

then mention that Kiev was bombing the breakaway republics since 2014 and killed 16K people, mostly Russian speakers. and they had tried to take over and ethnically cleanse the Donbass with Nazi punisher batallions like "Praviiy Sektor" and "Azov" batallion.

the Russians actually went in on a belated Right to protect context for Russian speakers as well as a de-nazi and de-militarise SMO only after the west avoided implementing not 1 but 2 Minsk agreements and later admitted that they had used them to re-arm.

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– glade 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

don't forget to add that Ukraine shot a missile into Poland and tried to pretend Russia did it.

We haven't even talked about the bio weapons laboratories either

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– propertyofUniverse 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Oh yes!

No, I didn't mention the bio weapons. Wanted to keep it simple for the uninitiated

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– deleted 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0
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– M42D 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Post-Convid I'm just inclined to default to "It's bullshit" to explain world events, so that's a brilliant summation. Huge doots.

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– propertyofUniverse 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thank you. I was watching Ukraine closely at the time.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

yes, indeed.

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– gobby [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Excellent summary. Thank you so much.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You're welcome fren!

I was watching Ukraine.

:-)

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– gobby [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It shows!

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– TNBanjoMan 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

For decades, two eastern provinces of Ukraine have been largely populated by Russian-speaking people, that area having been part of old pre-Soviet Union Russia. Since WWII, certain Ukrainians of the Nazi persuasion have been attacking and disenfranchising those Russian-speaking people. In the meanwhile, Ukraine became the most corrupt nation in Europe, home to money launderers worldwide and human trafficking.

Russia (Putin) finally said, "Enough!' and invaded Ukraine (its former land) to rid the two provinces of Nazi forces and protect Russian interests there.

That is as simple as I can make it.

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– dbsupernova 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Yep, and maybe throw in something about the US led coup in 2014 and how it only made things worse, but not for Biden though lol.

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– TNBanjoMan 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Again, keeping it as simple as possible for the first lesson. Secret labs, the 2014 coup, Biden interference in their justice system, money laundering.... all for later discussions with the uninitiated. It's like teaching kids in school... you don't start off with calculus, you start with the ABC's and basic geometric shapes and making words with the alphabet. That won't get you very far in our complex world, but it's where you have to start with (as Rush used to say) "kids with skulls full of mush."

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– gobby [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Thanks! I see you didn't even mention the bio-labs. Might scare the kid off with that info.

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– TNBanjoMan 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Well, you might toss that in too, but you did say keep it simple, so.... Maybe that would be for a later, follow-up conversation. Baby steps at first, because even that simplified explanation will take some doing to get his / her head around.

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– Irishman4Trump6 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Well done 🐸, well done.

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– RedNonna 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

All I know is that Ukraine is a money-laundering racket for American politicians and NONE of our money or goods should go there.

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– gobby [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Agreed.

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– Qanaut 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

So here's the deal kids . . . there is a global Cabal of child sex traffickers who run all the major governments of the world through a complex network of blackmail and bribery. Ukraine is the epicenter of one such trafficking and blackmail ring. Russia is fighting a millennia long war against their ancient adversary, the Khazars, who we now know as the Cabalists. Vladimir Putin and President Trump are working with a group of powerful White Hats from countries all around the world to run a counter-operation against the global cabal in an effort to free humanity from the chokehold of the cabalist cultists.

I've said too much again, haven't I?

u/#silvia

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– ToxicLibertyism 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

First, they would need to understand that the current war in Ukraine/Russia is a leftover, unresolved land dispute matter from the breakup of the former Soviet Union during the 1990's.

From there, you can explain how the former dictator of the Soviet Union, Ukrainian born Nikita Khrushchev, reformed the state boundary between the nations of Soviet Russia, and Soviet Ukraine. Khrushchev took the prosperous western lands of Russia, and placed it within the border of eastern Ukraine, thus placing many Russian peoples within the nation of Ukraine- something they have never been happy about.

Many years after the fall of the USSR, the Russian people living in those lands exercised their right to vote, and voted to leave Ukraine, and to put their lands back into Russian territory. The resolution was legal, and supported by the former president of Ukraine. But, some Ukrainians were not happy about losing the prosperous territory that had been gifted to them by Nikita Khrushchev, so they staged a coup, and overthrew their democratically elected president. A move that 0bama, and the NATO nations all pretended was not an issue to concern themselves with. They sat on their asses while the democratic govt. of Ukraine was overthrown.

Fast-forward>> Russians in Ukraine resisted the overthrow, and demanded that the new Ukrainian govt. honor their vote to leave Ukraine- Ukraine govt. refused, sent in storm troopers to put those Russian people in line. Fighting, killing, etc. went on for several years, while Russian citizens living in Ukraine begged Russia to come in and protect them from Ukrainian storm troopers. Eventually Russia sent their army into Ukraine to do just that. --we are here--

On the other side, NATO wants to build military (missile) bases (big $$$ from US taxpayers) in eastern Ukraine, which is a violation of post Soviet Union treaties with Russia, and antagonizes Russia further. But that's a big reason for NATO's motive for supporting Ukraine, it's all about MIC scooping up all that phat US tax $ they can get.

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– gobby [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Great! Thank you.

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– Jimp024 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

If I remember correctly USSR wanted to place Nukes in Cuba. A hard No from USA. now that the shoes on the other foot Russia can't defend its borders. Kind of a double standard in my book.

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– Godknowstheheart 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Russia is NOT USSR any more.

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– Jimp024 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

No they are not. However MSM wants us to belive they are the big bad bear evil of the world. Hopefully we get to see a Tucker interview.

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– Godknowstheheart 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

i hope we get to see the Tucker/Putin interview as well.

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– Nfld709 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Ukraine on Fire is a real eye-opener to anyone unfamiliar with the reality of what's happening.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EgJKHEQPWw9F/

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– Oblakhan 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The US overthrew the eligitmate Ukranian goverment in 2013. The US cabal filled the country with biolabs working on diseases they intended to unleash on Russia to commit genocide. Russia caught on to what was going on, and put and end to it.

Zelenski is a cabal puppet that continues to feed the Ukranian people into the meat grinder, and at the same time committing war crimes against the Russian people.

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– Zzirg720 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I would simply explain the history of Eastern Europe after the collapse of the USSR. That's all it took to get me on Russia's side.

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– Jntn 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Once upon a time there was an agreement between Russia and Ukraine - that agreement was broken. Propaganda has made people believe the Russians wants to expand westward - but the truth is in fact, as maps will show, NATO has been expanding eastward — here you say Ukraine wants to join NATO. Now you can ask: How do you think America would react if Russia was to engage and make an ally of Mexico, and then park some Russian bases next to the US southern border? Answer: The US would not put up with this under any circumstances. Et Voila! … did I miss anything 👀

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– 427windsorman 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Another truth in regards to the war is that Ukraine is a hot bed of illegal biological warfare labs funded by Obama, Biden, and the DS cabal that are a direct threat to Russia. Obama and Biden made backdoor deals with the Ukraine Government and China back when Obama was still the illegal POTUS that unleashed COVID-19 and continues to weaponize pathogens to commit genocide.

Putin wasn't having it, and said that enough, is enough.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It is a war between those who do not want labs designing deadly bioweapons,and hubs for worldwide distribution of stolen children sold for organ harvesting, and those who do want those things. ( When you understand that the organs and parts of one human being can net a trafficker 500k in profit, it is no mystery why there is trafficking ) laundering money from these enterprises sends money back to the United States congress members and others. Is that concise enough as a summary? There is a lot of explanation necessary to expand on each point.

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– beana707 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It was a over through of government by the DS and needs laundering money to stay afloat. Tired of US funding another country when we need money to fix our own country borders and homelessness, etc.

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– The_Watcher 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Ukraine had a democratically elected government that got along with Russia. Ukraine was perfectly happy.

The USA decided that it wanted to have a pro-western government in Ukraine, instead so it organised a coup so they could change the government. First, protests, then riots then they hired snipers to kill both protestors and police to get the violence started.

The result was that the old government was replaced with one chosen by Victoria Nuland and her associates while the previous president fled to Russia.

Many ethnic Urainians are basically Nazis. One of their national heroes is Stepan Bandera and they dislike the ethnic Russians who live in Ukraine, mainly in the east of Ukraine. So they started shelling them. That went on for eight years and, some say, Ukraine was organising a final push to get rid of the remaining Russians in Ukraine. They had already killed 14,000 in the 8-year period after 2014.

That was the point in 2022 when Russia said: No more.

There were two sets of peace agreements following talks in Minsk, Belarus and, in spite of the fact that Ukraine was backed by France and Germany, Ukraine reneged on those agreements. Angela Merkel has since said that they were really only to play for time to let Ukraine get ready to fight Russia. There was nearly a third agreement but Boris Johnson, UK prime minister, flew to see Zelensky and talk him out of it.

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– LongTimeListener 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Id tell them that in the 2014 Minsk Accords that NATO, Ukraine and Russia made a deal that NATo and Ukraine never intended to keep and in fact only agreed to it to string Putin along while they staged a coup in Ukraine to remove a duly and legally elected President who was pro Russia so that they could set up their money laundering, child and human trafficking ops, LNG monopolies and biolab research centers that were instrumental in the covid tyranny.

Id then explain to them that Ukraine has historically had strong ties to Russia and that the eastern half of the country is ethnically Russian. Id explain the history of Stepan Banderas and Ukraines deep Nazi sympathies and how the new leaders placed by our government used these Nazi Brigades like Right Sektor and Azov to wreak havoc and genocide on the Russian speaking people of the eastern half of the country.

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It is enough to talk to them about the 2030 agenda, one country is in favor (Ukraine) and the other is against (Russia).

Let them decide later if they want to be an obedient sheep or wake up and fight so that everyone knows the truth.

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– redhawk 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

America being scammed out of money so Ukrainians can be forced to fight an unwinnable war justified under a false pretext so the weapons companies can make bank

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– bakcraker 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It is all about the jews getting the Ukrainian salav's to kill off Russian slav's (think Newland) so the Khazarian Jews can reestablish the Khazarian Empire which will extend to present day Palestine, Saudi, egypt, jordan, turkey, iraq, kuwait, back up to Azerbaijan.

All the rest of the action are chess moves. HIstory is nothing but a play by play series of events that tell how we got there. Keep in mind the first sentence.

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– russiah 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's going to be hard. There are kids who still watch CNN, or are forced to watch CNN in NY elementary schools. ...

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– Revodude 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Ukraine is Deep State central with a very large contingent of Nazis. In the Soviet Union days a lot of Russians moved to Ukraine for the weather and other reasons. Most of them in the eastern part. After the fall of the SU, the Ukrainian government has been trying to force them out or kill them. The DS set up several bio-warfare labs in the country. Russia has been taking out the labs, killing the Nazis and securing the parts of the country with the most Russians.

Other stuff, but that should cover the attention span.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Depends on how dirty minded the person is.

  1. There is a NATO dick they wanne shove up Russia' s ass. And the only people allowed to screw Russia are Russians.

  2. So Nato uses fake Russians, called Ukranians.

  3. Russia spotted the big dick threatened to be pushed up their canal, and found they also had something to push up NATO ass. It' s called BRICS.

  4. Now, NATO is bleeding chips and Russia is in perfect condition.

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