She didnt eat her eggs and bacon. Slept most of the day.slurped some water.
I got home from work and she was up and about with a wiggly tail. I wrapped an antibiotic in a piece of cheese,she ate it.
She was looking for food.we didnt have anything ready for her.i gave her 3 cans of tuna with the water,she ate it all.she seems to like tuna. If its tuna she wants,its tuna she will get. Ill hit the store tonight and grab her a bunch of big cans. Should probably get rice to mix with it.
I cant say that shes getting better or cured. But she doesnt seem to be getting any worse than she was a month ago.The only side effects ive seen so far is shes got the hershey squirts and her claws grew pretty damn quick.
Eggs would be great!
When our doggos aren't feeling 100%, they are still eager to eat canned pumpkin filling and yogurt.
Rice always clears up a runny stool and saves me from hosing off their rear end when it's cold out.
Good idea, never used it but read about it frequently…. 94, That’s canned pumpkin NOT pumpkin pie filling….might help with the squirts too.
keep the faith fern thanks for the update.......
Just a heads up, the mercury content in tuna can be toxic to dogs, but it seems to be okay in moderation. I found this article with some more info and some lower mercury alternatives, like yellowfin tuna or salmon: https://www.thesprucepets.com/is-tuna-good-for-dogs-5097517
God bless you and your pup, praying for a miraculous recovery!
Sardines!
Salt free in water
Is she drinking enough water? The salt content in tuna can be high, which can help to superhydrate the body, but could also lead to diarrhea.
Distilled water for the doggies please.
No minerals
Distilled water is alkaline and over time will make the body alkaline. Cancer can’t grow in an alkaline environment.
You’ll be dead from mineral loss before you get there.
“While cancer cells can't survive in high alkaline environments, neither can any of the other cells in your body. ”
Love your updates.. been through this fight too many times myself and didn't know about the dewormers at the time.. Prebiotic are essential with dewormers or antibiotics. Cancer loves sugars. Brown rice is much lower in carbs. We use brown rice with baked salmon, eggs, and sometimes mix in hamburger or ground turkey for our pups. We use green beans as a filler. The Dogs love them. Then add supplement vitamins. Good luck friend. I'll pray for you.
Bless her, and you, praying for more wiggly tails!
Yes..so happy to hear this! 🙏
This.
I am watching this post and rooting for the best for you and her . It sounds like she is holding her own in this fight. Good that you are trying SO HARD
Sounds like she’s holding steady! As long as she’s got an appetite she’s got every chance to recover. Thank you for the daily updates. First thing I always look for. Praying for success!
This, my fren, is what I've been waiting for you to say. Another way of looking at it is: it didn't take a month to get this way, it's gonna take longer to heal.
I was talking with my nephew about taking Ivermectin to kill the parasites. He mentioned that a "binder" would need to be used in a mass kill to rid the body of these dead parasites. This might be something to speak with your vet about?? Good luck and I am praying for a full recovery for your little bud.
carnivores will get some vegetables when they eat the stomachs of small animals then the veg’s will already be digested. It wouldn’t hurt to add some vegetable baby food for vitamins etc. I think you are doing a wonderful job!!!! I didn’t see if your vet responded back to you.
She is probably having loose stools d/t the medicine and all of the protein without much bulk. Glad to see she is status quo! What good “parents” you are to your little buddy.
Doggie probiotics. All the antibiotics and fenbencould be messing up her gut biome. Probiotics will help with nutrient uptake also.
I'd skip the rice - or any grains at all. Natural diet for a dog would be raw meat period - tho a gradual transition would make sense
Here's a tip about cooking brown rice - I learned it on the "simply ming" cooking show, he used to do 1/2 white and 1/2 brown rice. If you soak the brown rice for about an hour before you cook it, it will cook in the same amount of time as white rice (e.g. 20 minutes). If you decide to do white and brown rice, this makes it a lot easier to do them both together.
Maybe she likes to eat soft things due to her jaw problems. I am glad you are talking and hear from you about it. Thank you for sharing. God bless you and your baby girl.
He later on also said it doesn’t seem to matter whether you do the on and off or not but it may be helpful to initially double the fenben in the first couple weeks and then go down to the regular dosage.
He also says you should do the fenben treatment together with cannabis oil and vitamins I believe. It’s all on his website.
I read your posts everyday. Thanks for keeping us up to date. I have been feeding my guys a meat and egg diet. My 14 year old dog is in such better shape than she was 3 years ago. She moves like a much younger dog. In the last few months, she keeps bugging me for more food. One thing I learned is that after your body burns up all the stored fat, you need more food to compensate. So, I have upped her food by one ounce a day, and give her a tsp of refrigerated butter a couple times a day.
I have heard that butter is very healing, and these healthy fats are what makes us feel sated. You may want to give your sweetie a tbs. of butter every day.
Lots of good advice from the frens here and lots of prayers too…we’re all pulling for you two….. Eggs….natures best food, scrambled or soft boiled maybe even hard boiled. I remember the days when raw eggs were a big health thing but my problem is….today you can no longer trust the food. I wouldn’t do raw anything. Not that I dislike the concept but rather what happens to EVERYTHING between the farm and the store…these freaks can’t even give you safe meds anymore. I cook the crap out of everything knowing I might be reducing the nutrition on some things but not taking a chance with germy filth the warehouses, plants and illegal germ bags leave all over. Not to mention inject into everything (who knows what we haven’t heard about or deduced on our own) Tuna….a good post. Yes it is high in mercury but it’s not like that’s her steady diet…a couple cans now and again shouldn’t hurt…. as for the negative review on starch I understand….”it’s a dog, it’s an animal, they eat meat” true but only to some extent …our animals are not wolf cubs we raised from pups, they are not feral dingos. Man has pretty much messed with dogs in domesticating them. I do believe they could handle raw meat a lot better than a person could but I don’t think it should be given as daily food. They are no more the wild creatures they once were than man himself is.
Potato and rice….I only say BROWN cause it’s a better alternative. The point is it fills the dog up and will keep the squirts under control. A lot of loose poop can become a problem of it own (dehydration). Rice is a solution, you can even give her a spoon or two of Pepto Bismol, check dose on label for kid size.
Thing is we don’t have some healthy wild animal here. We’re dealing with a beloved dear dog who is fighting a deadly disease with your help. She is special circumstance ! Your heart is broken, everyone is afraid and terribly worn out, both mentally, emotionally and physically. Pray for her healing and your strength and guidance. Balance the food the best you can while she’s eating, when she’s not you give her whatever she wants to keep her going….no one could ask or give more than that. Don’t give up until she does and signals you to do the same.
She doesn’t appear to be in any pain or ready to throw the towel in. There’s a good chance everyone worrying over this girl is suffering more at the moment than she is. In these times of sickness the big problem is us questioning ourselves.
Everything you are doing now is so far working, a good sign. Stick with it ! Ultimately EVERYTHING is in Gods hands and his will. Bless you all and us who care too.
Nope. Rice is carcinogenic and only carbs and should not be eaten by either man or dog.
The following is for humans. I don't know about dogs.
There are many types of cancer cells that live off of glucose. Not eating glucose can starve the cancer cells. Humans can live just fine without glucose by using keytones (protein breakdown products) as an energy source. Many cancers cannot. Thus, by eating a ketogenic diet, it can have a potentially devastating effect on cancer.
Yes, the medical research is unclear on this, but that research is funded and published by the same people that get, on average, $200,000 per cancer patient, and are literally working towards depopulating the planet to bring about their neo-Malthusian Utopia. In the field of cell biology on the other hand, this is well known.
So, take that however you want. I worked in a lab that studied cancer cells (specifically how failures in the autophagosome can lead to escape from apoptosis). My experience (lab work and reading other's work) suggests that many types of cancer will starve in a body that is ketogenic.
Of course I don't know for certain. I am not saying "for certain." But there is a lot of evidence that supports a ketogenic diet for the (vast) majority of cancer types, and contraindicating evidence has a lot of ties to conflicts of interest.
u/94f450d
I'm not a vet. I don't know about dog diets. I do know that for humans adding any type of fiber to the diet will aid in firming up the stool. I'm not sure exactly how to accomplish that for a dog, but for humans it's pretty straight forward. You can potentially add something like psyllium husk to tuna, or some other good, neutral flavor fiber additive if you can't get your dog to eat celery. :)
Yes, this. And they pulled almost all rice baby cereal off the market because the arsenic content is too high!
I'm starting to lean towards thinking that OP is not really interested in doing the hard work towards a solution, but just want to feed the dog shit it should not have and hoping a pill can solve their problem.
No effort on the fasting/keto meat o ly mentality from OP at least.
Like wtf giving terminal sick dog rice!?
I think OP is also probably overwheight and therefore does not want to look into Ketogenic because it will force introspection regarding existing cognitive dissonance.
Hope I'm wrong though, but been reading these posts since they started and I have given multiple feedback with very little interest from OP.
Reread what you just posted. When you figure out why i dont comment back to you,let me know.
Not going to put more effort in this thread. If you don't want to just say, then fine, it's your dog.
Posting here just to gather sympathy instead of doing the difficult decision is not going to save your dog.
Taking mine and others advice on the other hand will..
“Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win, and sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose.”
— Rosie Perez
I think it's more lack of knowledge or a lot of trust in his vet. Doctors recommend rice as part of the BRAT diet when people are sick because it's easy to digest. And then vets always recommend meat and rice when a dog or cat is sick. Or broth or baby food. And rice is cheap.
Vets, like doctors, may want sick patients, and also not be trained in nutrition or homeopathy.
Heck, half the time doctors don’t know about pharmaceutical conflicts.
It’s why we have to do that side investigation ourselves and not take them as an authority, but as a potentially useful tool to get to things we’ve learned we need.
Also, regarding comments on OP, it can be very difficult to filter through the noise when already in a stressful state and especially when getting a lot of excess and conflicting guidance. Anon is doing ok. Everybody has room for improvement all the time.
Might be good to see a pet nutritionist with a prepared list of options and suggestions from here if help is needed to filter through the noise. They can probably be found available for web appointments.
Vets are businesspeople first. They have to make revenue or everyone goes home. They def recommend revenue enhancing treatments more than is needed. Lets just say it like that.
Being a businessperson shouldn’t require selling products that create their own demand - which is known, legally, as racketeering.
I keep pointing out, the solution to this is to behave like Trump in the 80’s, where he was famous for threatening to sue everybody.
I'm glad OP's vet is open to the fenben treatments and willing to give dosage guidance. That's more than a lot of others would be willing to do.
I also feel OP is trying everything, but nothing too drastic. Leaving it up to his pup on what she wants to eat just to get her to eat something.
The truth about rice has only started going mainstream within the past year, and it's started with babies and their cereal. Still being recommended for adults and animals when they're sick, as far as I know anyways.
Maybe should switch to some nice ground cricket meal.
Kek!
Main problem with docs/vets is they are trained wrong, believe 100% in their wrong training, and find it impossible to consider the possibility that some ragtag renegades on the internet might be right at the expense of them being wrong.
"It is difficult to get a man to believe something, if his salary depends upon him not believing it." -- Upton Sinclair
It’s super fun to call them out on it, too!
I should be able to say, “I think this, tell me whether it’s totally off-base, and the pros and cons of it.” and get an educated response in less time than I can come up with it.
I forgot about this thread.
Just found it again.
I agree with you.
keep it up, we're all behind you and praying for your little friend.
Have you tried "the cure for everything but death"?
https://www.teliashop.com/en/blog/post/black-cumin-oil.html
Thank you for your continued posts - there are many of us out here who pray for you and your pup daily and truly appreciate the love you give your dog! Prayers for daily improvement!
Be careful of the high salt content of tuna - it can be counterproductive and stress the kidneys.
Have you had her liver values checked since giving her fenben?
Look into that.
Also tuna has sooo much salt. Be careful.
Also beef baby food is what my dogs love when they’re sick. Any meat baby food!
No idea if anyone has mentioned this before. Colloidal Silver in the water has been known to cure the big C, it will also go a long way towards clearing up the tooth/gum infection.
CS is antimicrobal, antibacterial, anti fungal & anti parasitical, the original antibiotic.
NB: the only known interaction with other stuff is that in combo with big pharma antibiotics it makes the latter 1000 times stronger, not sure thats a good thing.
Good luck.
rice mixed with peanut butter and healing "chi" energy ftw
Good news day…..rice a good idea . Make it BROWN rice, it will help with the squirts also. Buy that boil in a bag stuff it’s quick and easy…What ever she’s got going on, she’s STRONG….a fast change in food gets bad reaction in most dogs. Your girl has an iron stomach….feed her what she likes but please do cut it with veggies (well cooked) and either sweet potato or brown rice. Get those meds in her. If she’s not a big drinker…low salt beef broth cut 50/50 with water right over her food…..few ounces with each meal….I use the water I boil the dogs chicken in. Hang tough 94, you’re both doing good work. A few weeks ago you thought it was the end….keep up the good fight. God love and bless that dear doggie and her people ! 🙏🙏🙏
What she needs is a big bloody NY rib eye steak. Cut into little pieces and fed raw. Give it a try. And no stealing. The tuna can crap is for cats. Dogs are CARNIVORES, feed her what her genetics demands and add all the good herbs and veggie stuff she'd forage for to heal herself.
WTF?
Why are you feeding her garbage that only humans eat?
She is a ... DOG.
What do dogs eat?
What do wolves eat in the wild?
Coyotes?
Foxes?
They eat fucking MEAT.
And ONLY meat.
Feed her beef, either raw or cooked (raw is probably a lot better and healthier).
Good luck, but dude ... you GOTTA STOP pretending she is a human.
That is probably what made her sick in the first place.
She likes TUNA. That should be a clue -- except that canned tuna is too low in fat by itself.
She doesn't like eggs (because it is not meat) or bacon (because it is salted, processed meat, not natural meat).
Feed her what she WANTS, and see what a difference it makes.
Watch this video of a pitbull scarfing down ... RAW MEAT ... BONES INCLUDED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFirKMAKUY
/rant
I see my "feed her raw bloody ribeye steak ut into small pieces" comment-post went up in flames (funny that, there is some MB shill here)
Came back to praise this post and also suggest: BEEF BONE BROTH.
"...bone broth offers nutrients that may support bone health, such as calcium, magnesium and phosphorus. It is also a nutritious, hydrating option for cancer patients dealing with side effects such as low appetite, nausea, and sore mouth and throat,"
Yes, bone broth would be excellent in this case.
I suggested it a week or two ago.
OP not interested.
Buy some chicken thighs. Give them to her whole and raw. Bones and all. I used to give my yorkies wings or legs, bones and all. Great for them. Messy though. Best to give outside or where the mess is not an issue
You seem to forget the part where the dogs mouth is completely messed up on the inside… I’m sure she’s gonna wanna chew bones with an open sore inside her face… fucking brilliant guys!
Obviously not at a time like this no. It was more of a general point to others. Not you and your pup. But, I have also used a grinder to make their raw food. I appreciate what you're doing here. We don't have to agree on everything. Your posts are bringing new eyes and thats good.
Great idea.
Cheap form of meat, too.
Could even remove the bones to make bone broth.
Cut up the chicken into small pieces.
But I suspect your advice will fall on deaf ears.
I have done it so often. It is a huge savings and the best for them. I have had up to 8 dogs at a time and vet bills and food will break you. Once set up it is surprisingly fast to knock out a month of food for them. You can find farmer to table groups also for further savings. Buy the meat direct
There is always at least one dick in every crowd. You have zero empathy, and I feel sad for your hateful nature.
Right? Just gray it out. Too bad that’s not an option.
I try to quote the people when this happens, just in case.
Good point.
So sad that morons like you have to comment on things you have no clue about.
Absolutely...what kind of hate is this!
You’re somebody’s bitch. I’ve seen this kind of negativity and hate before. You’re miserable and you want everyone else to be as miserable as you. You can’t even spell. Fuck off!