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The War On Nicotine Is A War On Vitality (thefederalist.com)
posted 1 year ago by LakotaPride 1 year ago by LakotaPride +69 / -0
The War On Nicotine Is A War On Vitality
By trying to take down Zyn, the federal government is seeking to suppress the vibrant, youthful spirit that once defined America.
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– Tailgunner49 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Interesting well written BUT Nicotine addiction kills….and it’s an ugly painful way to go - very very very difficult circular habit to stop

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– Notimportant81 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

Nicotine is not the killer. Doesn't cause cancer. It's the junk in the smoke.

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– OXRanger 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

Yep! It's medicinal and prevents Covid.

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– Notimportant81 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Tobacco is the best remedy for stopping the pain from a bee or wasp sting.

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– treepainter 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Pesticides, herbicides and additives. I am fond of cigars but the only cigar maker that only uses organic tobacco is Valencia. Quite pricey but worth the avoidance of all the tru poisons.

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– AngelCole 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There is a search box up on the right. Type in nicotine, it's been discussed and mult links were provided in different posts.

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwaMWjuC/why-is-no-one-talking-about-this/

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– jackrotten 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

France was studying nicotine as a covid treatment after pattern recognition indicated that smokers seems to be ignoring the effects of the "disease"

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– CheekyHawk 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I saw it, but it got squashed pretty quick. Anything but “get 84638 shots” pretty much got the ion cannon in those days.

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– winn 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I saw this too. Something about the nicotine binds to the receptors in the lungs which the covid spike proteins need to bind to, thereby blocking them.

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– Mr_A 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

here are studies showing nicotine helps kill off the spike 2. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200430/smokers-hospitalized-less-often-for-covid-19 https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpheart.2001.280.3.H1293 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11246702/

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– sueanon2017 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

or is that just a cover for all the other poisons that damage us?...

wondering because George Washington grew tobacco, and he seems to be right most of the time...

https://www.mountvernon.org/search/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Tobacco%20&gsc.page=1

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– Munchaussen 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Hemp…

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– CheekyHawk 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I’ve seen no study to suggest this; I have heard from the same people that horse paste will kill you (it does not); and safrole was used as a medicine by everyone in early America but “that caused cancer” in mice that they gave insane doses to (was also the basis for root beer- as it’s made from sassafras root), cocoa leaves are banned as well, but Brazilians still make tea from the leaves. I don’t even think tobacco leaves are terrible, it’s the crap they put in modern tobacco.

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– winn 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You sent me down an interesting little rabbit hole (:

what components of chewing tobacco cause cancer?

The primary carcinogenic components in chewing tobacco are tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). TSNAs are formed during the curing and processing of tobacco, while PAHs are produced when tobacco is burned. Both of these chemicals have been linked to various types of cancer, including oral, pancreatic, and esophageal cancer.

what are TSNAs?

Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) are a group of potent carcinogenic compounds found in tobacco products, including chewing tobacco. They are formed during the curing and processing of tobacco due to the reaction of nicotine with nitrosating agents. The most common TSNAs are N'-nitrosonornicotine (NNN) and 4-(methylnitrosamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK). These chemicals are known to cause DNA damage, leading to the development of various types of cancer, particularly in the oral cavity, pancreas, and esophagus.

what nitrosating agents are used?

In tobacco products, nitrosating agents are primarily introduced during the curing, processing, and storage stages. Some common nitrosating agents found in tobacco include nitrite (from the use of nitrogen-based fertilizers), nitrogen oxides (from combustion during smoking), and N-nitroso compounds (formed from the reaction of nicotine with other chemicals). These agents react with nicotine and other tobacco alkaloids to form tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) which are potent carcinogens.

is it possible to cure tobacco without these nitrosating agents?

It is theoretically possible to cure tobacco without nitrosating agents, but it would require significant changes in the curing and processing methods currently used in the tobacco industry. This could involve using alternative curing methods that do not introduce nitrosating agents, such as air-curing or shade-curing, or by implementing stricter quality control measures during the processing and storage of tobacco to minimize the formation of TSNAs. However, such changes would likely impact the taste and overall characteristics of the final product, which could make it less appealing to consumers.

sooo yeah. Not nicotine. It's, once again, these big corporations doing things in the processing of the products we consume, taking short-cuts, flavor boosting at the cost of safety reduction for the consumers. Same with processed foods

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– MagnumLife 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

That is total nonsense. Nicotine is not the carcinogen.

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– JizmJunky 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Nicotine is Def a killer, I use it as an insecticide regularly in agriculture.

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– NanoKhuma 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Welcome to the term dosage, alcohol kills bacteria but you only ever see major health issues with heavy drinking.

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– JizmJunky 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Sure, vitamin C can also kill with high dose. I'm not a fan of banning anything, free market that shit!! But I've only seen intense addiction from nicotine use, nothing in between.

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– CheekyHawk 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Did you know “water poisoning” is a real thing and people die every year of it? It’s also referred to as water intoxication and water toxicity.

The LD50 for Tylenol is 4000mg for the average adult, and caffeine is actually incredibly lethal, at 150-200mg per KG, and in some cases in the 50mg per KG range.

People have died from too much oxygen, water, heat and cold. What are we talking about team?

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– JizmJunky 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Life is a killer, sadly. I work in chemicals, stuff I handle has a very low LD50. In general, nicotine can kill just like anything else.

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– JohnnyMagnum357 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes. OSHA has an MSDS(Material Data Safety Sheet) for H2O.

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Someone claimed that if you subvert the surface tension layer that your oxygen absorption gets reduced, eventually leading to severe hypoxia.

Seems legit.

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– artyjulia 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

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– UltraMagaOK 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

It's radioactive polonium in rock phosphate fertilizer taken up by the tobacco plant and deposited in the leaves that causes cancer in smokers.

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– NanoKhuma 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You know, I've always wondered how that's the case for tobacco and literally no other foodstuff given it's not going to be tobacco farmers purposely ordering the cancer fertilizer.

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– UltraMagaOK 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Tobacco absorbs polonium easily. Rock phosphate is considered organic. The presence of polonium in tobacco leaves has been swept under the rug.

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– UltraMagaOK 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I am interested to hear the downvoter's information. I already knew it when I heard it from a cardiovascular specialist speaking to a group of >70 other specialists at a cardiovascular center of a major hospital. He said the latest research shows lung cancer in smokers is from radioactive isotopes in the leaf. None of them batted an eye. I thought this information needs to be made public and the doctors who know are responsible for making an effort to do that.

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Probably same bots that downvote prayers and casual conversation.

If it’s -1, I assume bot or shill.

If it’s -7, the wrong audience saw your whichever direction Zionist comment.

If the post got deleted, or several people corrected you, or just mocked the response, it was actually a bad comment.

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– CheekyHawk 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Well cigarette smoking is down and cancer is way up…. So ya.

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– winn 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

see: https://greatawakening.win/p/17tLFhKmIb/x/c/4ZCaGXkL7GS

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– Dogsoldier2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

No more so than caffeine. There are a lot of benefits of nicotine, more than caffeine. Both are found naturally in plants. If you eat pepper/peppers, eggplant and many other vegetables you consume nicotine. It's also used in weight loss because of it's effect on metabolism.

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– Humble_trashman 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Quitting nicotine was rough. 6 weeks of the worst sleep of my life, not to mention the effect on mood during the day..for me the process of quitting was enough to deter me from picking up the habit back up.

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– 2day 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Nicotine is not addictive nor is it a carcinogen, it's the other crap in cigarettes.

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– FLHouse01 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

They used the cool young people to sell product. Don't be a naive OP.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

The more the Government controsl you the less creative and productive people become. In the end you have sheep. Tobbaco was used by us as a cure in the past and still is. But then we ignored Big Pharma. Now who is really naive OP ?

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– axrevolutionai 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Sorry, but no way one of the most addictive substances with proven neurological changes, pathway blocks, and antinutrient action is actually good

I am all for the idea of clown world, but the cabal gave up trillions of dolllars in the nictoine industry as it was before because they had no way of keeping the truth sealed...lying about nicotine was impossible even for them

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

The more the Government controls what you can and can not do, the less creative and productive people become. We end up like sheep. Still laughing now ?

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– LakotaPride [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

lot of food for thought in this article.

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– LakotaPride [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

No thanks needed . Happy to share.

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– treepainter 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Abuse of anything isn't beneficial. The problem is government intervention and the forced use of fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides etc etc.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Always comes back to moderation. Even water that is healthy when drinking to much water can cause water intoxication.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yeah, whenever I think 'vitality', I think cigarette smoking or nicotine addiction.

It must be the same for everyone else too.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And the more the Government cotrols what you can and can not do. That creativity and productivity stops. The sheep effect in the end.

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– XGemInaV 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Contrast these benefits to the effects of marijuana — sloth, paranoia, even schizophrenia. Though marijuana is still illegal in six of the 50 states, daily marijuana consumption has outpaced that of daily alcohol consumption. An estimated 40 percent of marijuana users consume daily, a trait more congruent with that of tobacco use than alcohol use, yet there are far greater dangers posed by excessive marijuana consumption, such as cannabis-associated psychosis. Additionally, excess marijuana use is proven to have much more debilitating side effects. It can affect normal brain development, leading to problems in learning, memory, coordination, reaction time, and judgment.

Marijujuana is pagan and degenerate.

Nicotine is based and Christian.

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– UltraMagaOK 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

You know nothing about Cannabis and whoever wrote that is the same as you.

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– XGemInaV 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

medicinal cannabis for actual conditions i have no problem with. recreational use and abuse to escape reality and avoid problems is destructive to the human spirit.

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– UltraMagaOK 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Ignorance is destructive to the human spirit. Tobacco was unknown to the west until brought back from the new world. Cannabis is a candidate for the 'kaneh bosm' component of the holy anointing oil of biblical times.

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– UltraMagaOK 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Nice opinion there. Do you have much experience with the herb?

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– Akka 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I suppose it's pretty much the same with most similar plants or plant products, or fungi, humans have used, some doses and controlled use can be beneficial, larger ones or more frequent use not. Alcohol, cannabis, nicotine in tobacco - there seem to be claims that nicotine may even have a beneficial effect on Alzheimer's, and some other neurological problems, improves insulin sensitivity (might explain why tobacco once was popular with women who tried to lose weight, it actually can help) and so on.

But with nicotine you probably are not going to get more good stuff if you smoke than you get the bad effects. And if you get addicted, which it does to most if used regularly, you will most likely start to use too much.

So - controlled use, small doses.

The problem with all of those substances compared to even a couple of hundred years ago, much less back when they were first discovered by humans before written history, is that they are now both too easy to get, and are addictive. When you had to do something like wait until the certain mushrooms or plants were available in the forest, then collect and preserve them, then use what you had managed to get so that it would last through the whole year until the next season when those plants or mushrooms grew, well not going to be using a lot but leave the stuff for either to be used as some sort of medicine, or if for entertainment, only for very special occasions.

And then even after people started agriculture and grew larger crops, the plants still grew only on certain areas, and when traded were more expensive so most people still used them in smaller doses and less frequently because they had to use their resources for rather more important things like food, and the real addicts were a smaller group.

About alcohol, there is btw an interesting study about its use in my country, Finland. Finns are now known as people who often use too much and have a culture that even encourages getting blind drunk when you do use. But that one study of historical use of alcohol here actually found out that once upon a time Finns seem to have been moderate users. A few hundred years ago, when we were still a part of Sweden. So, at that time most alcohol was rather weak beer that was brewed in the homes of the people, and they'd use it daily, but then there usually were some in the neighborhood who knew how to make the stronger stuff, and would sell some to their neighbors. Steady supply of fairly affordable stuff. And people would mostly do something like get a few drinks for the sauna evenings.

Then the Swedish crown decided to monopolize alcohol for the crown. The government would give permits to make it and to sell it, but you had to have one of those before you could do either or you were punished, and they collected taxes from both the makers and the sellers.

So it became expensive and hard to get.

And the habits of using it changed radically. Now, when people could get it they used more, and getting drunk became acceptable and even sought after because it meant you had the money to get it, and with most, they had no guarantee as to when they could get it next.

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– artyjulia 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Papyrus.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What a load of steaming feces.

Get back to me when there's been even one single death attributable to cannabis. Still at zero after eight thousand years LOL

Meanwhile tobacco (the main delivery vehicle for nicotine) kills about eight million people per YEAR. WTF is "based and Christian" about that?

Marijujuana

Your ignorance is as epic as a tasty toasty twisty of Blue Dream LOL

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

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– CheekyBastard 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Here I am thinking we were going to have a discussion about the draconian policies and tactics of the fed gubmint and the FDA, only to find this entire thread is a shit show argument between tobacco and cannabis.

Silly me.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sadly you missed the point about the more the Government cpntrols you the less creative and productive people have become.

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– 1958Antigravityreprt 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Long time chewing tobacco user and have been using ZYN. I do not trust the packet that ZYN is using. Question: Are there businesses for the public to test products?

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Not that I am aware of.

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– FeebleOldMan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Nicotine is good. Smoking it with tons of chemicals is not. Its not addictive, the chemicals added are.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Amen, plus the more the Government controls what we can and can not do. creactivity and production goes down. Soon all one has is sheep.

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– Fatality 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sorry nicotine isn't good to be addicted to (i know).

I no longer smoke, but i do have nicotine gum.. and have been using it since covid when i heard it helps.. now im addicted to the gum

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

True, but the point here is. The more the Government decides what you can and can do do. The less creative and productive we become.

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