If Trump Wins, Guess Who Will Be In Charge Of Certifying The Election?
Do you know who will be in charge of certifying this election? In January 2021, it was Vice-President Mike Pence, and we all remember how that turned out. Well, an even more interesting scenario is shaping up this time around. In January 2025, Vice-President Kamala Harris will be in charge of certifying the election. In other words, if Donald Trump wins the person that he was running against will be in charge of certifying his victory. This is a major defect in our system, and it could potentially set the stage for widespread chaos if things do not go smoothly.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/if-trump-wins-guess-who-will-be-charge-certifying-election
Exactly. The law they passed keeps the VP from decertifying. They shot themselves in the foot with that one.
Intentionally lead there by DJT/Pence, imo.
Agreed. 5D Chess.
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Yes you're correct fren.
"The new provisions make clear that the vice president’s responsibilities in the process are merely ceremonial and that the vice president has no say in determining who actually won the election."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/congress-approves-new-election-certification-rules-in-response-to-jan-6
That's the real reason that law was passed
Yeah and people are already forgetting about it.
It wouldn't be Johnson from the House. When the VP goes to P, a new VP is nominated by the P, and then congress must approve the nomination for it to be effective.
It would have to pass the House first. Wonder if there are enough traitors in the House to allow a traitor to be nominated as interim VP. All I can say is make sure the preps are topped off.
Yes they did pass a new law after 2020 which means Trump's lawyers were right all along that they needed to change the law.
This is EXACTLY why Trump AND Pence had to do what they did in January 2021. Their maneuver seduced the establishment in to specifically and overtly taking away the power of the VP position to do what the Deep State now would want Harris to do, come next January.
This is the one thing that so many Pence haters ignore: And when Q writes "it had to be this way" the same could be said of Pence. He had to do what he did, and it also required that he make the massive sacrifice of his reputation and legacy. But those who know, know.
All planned out. On Jan 6 2021, Pence, in cooperation with DJT, enabled devolution to go forward and the plan to succeed, including luring the DS in to taking away the ability of Harris as VP to scuttle the 2024 election. (But it required him sacrificing his public image, his reputation, etc, to the very people he was serving: Maga)
Remember when Chris Miller thanked Mike Pence for his contribution during some of the most complex military operations in the history of the country?
Yep. Sure do.
Remember when Trump said "Mike Pence never did an evil thing in his life" (this was about 2 years ago....)
I know Pence gets a lot of hatred, but I still refuse to believe he's a bad guy. Or that Trump had no idea how Pence was going to vote in the Jan 6 hearing. I look forward to the day where Trump and Pence walk out on stage together and Trump publicly clears his name.
Makes good sense.
I think so. If it is true, then Pence is actually a kickass patriot. imagine a patriot who loves his country enough to sacrifice even his public reputation....
Then why hasn't be endorsed Trump for 2024.
Right. He has to play his role. It's not over till it's over. We're still in the 2021-2024 phase.
Rather than reacting to Pence not endorsing Trump, consider the impacts.
Do you think that Pence's NOT endorsing Trump has influence ANY people away from Trump?
Do you think his endorsing Trump would influence any people towards Trump that were not already leaning towards Trump?
So, what are the practical impacts of Pence not endorsing and appearing to not support Trump?
It allows the DS to think that Pence maybe was NOT working with Trump. It provides narrative cover for the very issues this post raises, i.e. a DS VP being able to somehow block the legitimate election of Trump.
The most pivotal, certainly the most EMOTIONALLY provocative, actions by DJT+Trump were the post-election phase of the 2020 election. That's still playing out.
If, after Trump gets back in to office, he comes out and then criticizes or lambasts Pence, then I'd be much more inclined to conclude that the Trump/Pence feud was in fact NOT kayfabe. But there is so much to indicate that it is and was kayfabe.
As it is, all during the 1st Trump administration, he and trump worked like the very best of associates. It's only when the 2020 election phase began (and the Biden administration phase) that there was any emergence of a Trump vs Pence situation. All of a sudden, Pence looks like a traitor.
What if devolution was already in place before Jan 6? What if Pence HAD turned around and tried to block the certification of Biden? Would it lay a precedent that would allow future VPs to reject electors and block certification of DJT? If the DS tries to do that this time, how will it look when Pence himself did not do that, even when it APPEARED to be to DJT and Maga's advantage?
War involves the art of deception. To see through the smoke and mirrors, we need to apply cool, reasoning and fact-based thinking, NOT rhetoric or narratives that are flying all over the place and triggering emotional responses.
Are the pedo stories fake? That’s some deep ass cover if they are.
Deep ass cover? or DS disinfo and character assassination?
I find it conceivable that DJT and the Team behind him (i.e. Military intel and/or "the White Hats") would allow a totally corrupt pedophile to be first in line to control and direct the executive government should anything happen to Donald Trump. It makes zero sense, in that it's an unreasonable concept if one gives any credence to the idea that the Q operation is legit (what it purports to be) and that DJT had support and backing in a plan to take down the DS that preceded his announcing his candidacy in 2015.
"He was forced to choose the corrupt Pence by the party, otherwise he could not have run" - this assertion would make sense if we were talking about Bush, Clinton, or anyone else who is a part of the Swamp, as for them, it is all about power and advancing their selfish aims. Would DJT & WH compromise himself THAT much? Compromise the entire potential of the plan by putting a corrupted pedo in the No. 2 spot?
"He did not know who Pence was" - again, incompatible with the idea that DJT ran based on a plan that was supported by Mil intel and other very powerful movers who had been planning to destroy the DS and free America.
Another point: Political Satanist methodology: accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing. It makes sense and is quite reasonable to theorize that the DS and Cabal would want to destroy Pence's reputation, sow doubt and disbelief among MAGA and Trump supporters. Accusing Pence of being a pedo would work perfectly, as he was publicly known as a very devout religious man (Christian), and there have been plenty of examples (that evil takes absolute relish in) of outwardly very upright religious people being actually profoundly corrupt. The accusations against Pence play directly into that narrative structure. I.e. they become believable to certain people who have a certain bias, even if it is a small or dormant one.
That said, I haven't personally investigated the accusations against Pence of him being a secret child abusing pedophile. Primarily because the entire story being sold seems just so unreasonable when In consider ALL the other actual facts around Pence and Trump (although some of those 'facts' are things that I believe about the Q operation, about the Plan and about Donald Trump and what is happening.
So, do I give credence to and attach to theories (assertions) about Pence that are negative or to theories about pence, inducing actual facts, that align with what I believe about DJT, the Q op, the White Hats and everything that has been going on the last 8+ years?
Another point for me: who attaches to the pedo Pence narratives and how they attach to them, I consider this also. For my part, I've observed a lot of (what I believe to be) disinfo operations, fake maga and disrupters working in the 5G warfare of the past 8 years. They have a certain vibration, behavior, they affect people in certain ways and appeal to certain psychological profiles. The anti-Pence stuff resonates with what (I think) I know about those operations and disinfo narratives. Now, that may be confirmation bias on my part, but overall, it makes sense to me, and I use that sense a lot these days as a compass, a sense built up over the past 8 years infused with ways of thinking about truth, lies, and 5G warfare (including psychological warfare).
Do I KNOW that Pence is not a pedo? No. But I've very comfortable and confident in my conclusion that he isn't. DJT's attitude towards him is probably the biggest proof there is that Pence is/was not what those narratives make him out to be.
I don't think it's beyond Kamala to not certify some college electorates and they would not care what Pence didn't do. But the law has changed but the Constitution hasn't changed and the law change hasn't been tested against the Constitution at SCOTUS, so the DNC won't give it up that easily.
Yeah, all we can really know is that they will try anything and everything.
But I think that DJT and Pence & team out-maneuvered them on this one.
Gore was the sitting VP when he lost to GWB in 2000 and certified Bush’s victory over him. It’s not unheard of.
I think that Gore let Bush have it as he didn't want to preside over 9/11.
This is an interesting point I didn't think of... It will look bad if she doesn't.
"If Trump Wins..."
No, it's WHEN Trump wins.
Asking to be stickied. I never considered this!
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She can't precident was set in 2021 with pence. She must certify or be breaking the law. Or so I hear
The new law hasn't been tested against the Constitution at SCOTUS, so don't put anything past them. But first of all he needs to be declared the presumed winner and that won't be an easy task
How would she do that without a teleprompter? Imagine the stumbling word salad that will come from her mouth.
Agree, the polls are close for a reason. Not because 1/2 of the country say they're voting for Kamala but because they want people to believe the election was close and then find legal reasons to win. I'm sure they have a scheme up their sleeves
i havent thought about this yet, interesting to say the least
LOL if she doesnt certify because she claims fraud that will prove that all the dems were lying when they said pence couldnt do it. another exposure
She can't. Its the constitution.
The Democrats already declared that the vp cant challenge the results
They'll just say it's the same as most elections. Pence was in the same position.
While surrounded by and interacting with DS there are quite a few that are on a WH leash......