Just like the guards and commandants of the German death camps were tried for war crimes after WWII, these jailers and wardens need to be fully investigated and held accountable for their actions with the J6 prisoners.
How many of those guards in masks, are the four capital police officers, who testified, Harry Dunn, Aquilino, Daniel Hodges, lead by the ringleader lying Michael Fanone
At this point, none. They are so drunk on power that their souls are forever beyond the light of salvation. The only time they will come to regret what they've done is when they are first dipped into the hellfire.
Now you've got me thinking of ADVENT from XCOM 2. The aliens who control the world have these soldiers that resemble humans, as long as they're wearing their helmets. They bleed orange and as soon as the helmets are off you see the alien features of their faces.
I would bet money that there's lots of them all over the planet. Perhaps not aliens...more like the drone creations of aliens. That whole NPC thing is a thing. Some say that a full 25% of the apparent human population only appear to be so (human). For some, the body may once have actually been human, but it ended up being a body possessed.
With all we didn't know about the nature of our reality before Q appeared, I'm making room for all kinds of things I never dreamed of to be so from this point. Best not to hold on to any ideas too tightly aside from my faith, I reckon.
All but 6. Trump mentioned this yesterday. Those 6 were probably agitators or whoever, and will be very loud right now. Trump still added though that even if they were agitators that he may still pardon them. Mostly because murderers nowadays don’t even do four years, and many if these J6 people haven’t even had due process. So he may still let them go.
Agitators? Worst of them? They did nothing wrong. They also did not get due process.
There were a few that did fight the capital police. You know why? Because they started beating, gassing, and shooting rubber bullets into crowds of unarmed, and unsuspecting Americans with the intent to cause harm, or even kill, these people. They fought to defend those unable to defend themselves.
Regardless, we have a RIGHT to defend ourselves, and we have a RIGHT to rebel against tyrannical government. Read the Declaration of Independence if you doubt me.
“I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. It places the governors indeed more at their ease at the expense of the people. The late rebellion in Massachusetts has given much more alarm than I think it should have done. Calculate that one rebellion in thirteen States in the course of eleven years is but one for each State in a century and a half. No country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of power in the hands of the government prevent insurrections. In England, where the hand of power is heavier than with us, there are seldom half a dozen years without an insurrection. In France, where it is still heavier but less despotic, as Montesquieu supposes, than in some other countries and where there are always two or three hundred thousand men ready to crush insurrections, there have been three in the course of the three years I have been here, in every one of which greater numbers were engaged than in Massachusetts.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Letter to James Madison, Paris, December 20, 1787. The Political Writings Of Thomas Jefferson 67-68 (Dumbauld Ed. 1955)
“I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people, which produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Letter to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 1787. THE POLITICAL WRITINGS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON 67 (Dumbauld Ed. 1955).
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
letter to Abigail Adams, February 22, 1787; reproduced in Thomas Jefferson, Writings (The Library of America, 1984), p. 889-890
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939
“What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939
“The Bill of Rights is a born rebel. It reeks with sedition. In every clause it shakes its fist in the face of constituted authority... It is the one guarantee of human freedom to the American people.” ~ Frank I. Cobb (1869-1923) American Journalist
LaFollette’s Magazine, January 1920
I’m pretty sure Trump is referring to those who were caught changing their clothes into “MAGA” clothing and then proceeding to break windows and encourage others to do the same. Antifa people most likely. Those agitators. Bent on hurting the image of Trump supporters. And it worked. Either hired, self motivated or w/e. Those guys and gals need to sweat some more. Or come clean. They were on video doing so. I remember one specifically. I can see his face but don’t remember his name. He was arrested. MAGA folks were trying to stop them. But the news narrative, three letter agencies involved for what they wanted. 99% of those arrested were innocent. But there are a few who are not. And they are NOT Trump supporters. But they may get pardoned anyway, as I’ve stated in my other post.
Correct, but when you have over 1500 people that they’re moving through a legal system, you have to be able to find those six - that were actual agitators, and make sure that they don’t get pardon. That’s the whole point.
Exactly, but they were arrested none the less. And some were absolutely Antifa. Some of them are sitting down there as well. The fedboi’s I’m sure got their pass. But, as this corrupt government does, they use people, then leave them hanging. Very common.
True, but Trump is a better man than Biden. The non-violent detainees will (or have) get pardons. Some of the others will likely be the ones that got commutations.
For those that don't know the difference:
pardons give you all your rights back (like - you can own a gun again for example), and erase the conviction.
commutations release you from serving the rest of your sentence but do not give you back any rights you lost, and your conviction stands.
Correct - many prisoners have tablets for this purpose. One of my old foster kids (now an adult) calls us and emails us from prison whenever he can. Lately he is asking for help in finding a halfway house away from his old family and friends that were bad for him so when he gets out he can change his life. He can research some of that inside, but he doesn't have the aptitude to do it properly (and he recognizes that).
In our case the prison system uses what they call "stamps". You (or the prisoner) buy stamps to allow emails and if you want to send pictures they require more stamps. They are fairly cheap, so it is a good way to keep in touch.
In our case we email and send him pics of our granddaughter - who happens to be his cousin. He brought his sister to us years ago when she had a baby she didn't want so we adopted the baby. He is now in her twenties and had her own baby 2 years ago.
Some of you might remember my post on her because she took the vax and then during her pregnancy she stopped feeling baby movement. I asked for prayers when she went to the ER. Well - seems to have worked since my grandaughter is now 2 and is starting to count (made it to 26 the other day). She seems to be smart for her age. Thanks again for those prayers.
All through these last four years these men supposedly held in solitary and/or being abused by heavy handed guards have had inexplicable access to the internet, some even doing podcasts from prison.
It has always been fishy to me and has led me to suspect that these names and faces that we hear from daily arent what they really seem.
And then you have the dichotomy of the 1600 voiceless others.
I believe there is a non zero chance some of these men were agent provocoteurs and engaged in treason.
Yes. But these are political prisoners held illegally. No way they are given rights that ordinary criminals get. The last thing they want is to let an abused prisoner publicly post that they aren't being let out after being pardoned. That's like robbing a bank and doing everything right then handing the teller a phone to call 911.
Also, sorry about your foster kid. The program can be hard on them. Even the best foster parents can't always keep a kid out of trouble. You have my thoughts.
Trump stated they would review each case and that no one violent would be released. That will take some time.
The fact is some of those that were there under cover should take the place of the non-violent protesters. Some of those maybe in jail, but I think many more need to join them that were let loose.
https://securustech.net/emessaging/index.html is one way I know of. JPay is another, but I haven't used that one yet. I do know the people that actually worked on that one though - used to work with them in a different field.
He's a good friend of Roger Avary (director of Killing Zoe) who does a podcast with Quentin Tarantino ... not sure what that makes him but it's odd ...
RED TAPE still exists.
Prisons won't release anyone without chain-of-command paperwork; especially on a federal holiday, MLK Day. All the white shirts, judges and other judicial hierarchy are off on holidays.
Just like the guards and commandants of the German death camps were tried for war crimes after WWII, these jailers and wardens need to be fully investigated and held accountable for their actions with the J6 prisoners.
yes agreed..
From your keyboard to Trumps ear!
How many of those guards in masks, are the four capital police officers, who testified, Harry Dunn, Aquilino, Daniel Hodges, lead by the ringleader lying Michael Fanone
How many of those guards are even from the United States?
How many of those guards are even human?
At this point, none. They are so drunk on power that their souls are forever beyond the light of salvation. The only time they will come to regret what they've done is when they are first dipped into the hellfire.
Now you've got me thinking of ADVENT from XCOM 2. The aliens who control the world have these soldiers that resemble humans, as long as they're wearing their helmets. They bleed orange and as soon as the helmets are off you see the alien features of their faces.
I would bet money that there's lots of them all over the planet. Perhaps not aliens...more like the drone creations of aliens. That whole NPC thing is a thing. Some say that a full 25% of the apparent human population only appear to be so (human). For some, the body may once have actually been human, but it ended up being a body possessed.
With all we didn't know about the nature of our reality before Q appeared, I'm making room for all kinds of things I never dreamed of to be so from this point. Best not to hold on to any ideas too tightly aside from my faith, I reckon.
Lol - I've gotten to the point of "Yup, got it Lord. What's next?"
Found the Nazi (the downvoter)
There's a Karen in every crowd.
Freakin Karen! 🙄
Scumbags in charge. DC swamp believe they can override Trump’s orders.
It will be interesting to see what Trump and his administration do to override this.
Stay tuned
Have Pam Bondi sic'em...
Hopefully, it ends peacefully… but I’ll settle for the deaths of the guards and cucked swamp officers for the sake of freedom for the J6 patriots.
Nothing will stop the J6ers from complete freedom and compensation.
About time we start talking like we want our country back. Death is the only thing these monsters understand.
i hope whatever Trump decides to do, that he does it swiftly. these people shouldn't spend one more minute in those jail cells.
The anger is raging within me like a torrent of electricity.
Isn't the Speaker of the House in charge of the Capitol Police?
Have him show up with the pardons and a squad of National Guard.
Did she instruct her 'four henchmen', lead by lying Michael Fanone?
Current Speaker is Mike Johnson, not that drunken Pelosi skank.
All but 6. Trump mentioned this yesterday. Those 6 were probably agitators or whoever, and will be very loud right now. Trump still added though that even if they were agitators that he may still pardon them. Mostly because murderers nowadays don’t even do four years, and many if these J6 people haven’t even had due process. So he may still let them go.
Even the worst of them have served enough time to punish for their very small crimes of trespassing and public disturbance.
Agitators? Worst of them? They did nothing wrong. They also did not get due process.
There were a few that did fight the capital police. You know why? Because they started beating, gassing, and shooting rubber bullets into crowds of unarmed, and unsuspecting Americans with the intent to cause harm, or even kill, these people. They fought to defend those unable to defend themselves.
Regardless, we have a RIGHT to defend ourselves, and we have a RIGHT to rebel against tyrannical government. Read the Declaration of Independence if you doubt me.
“I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. It places the governors indeed more at their ease at the expense of the people. The late rebellion in Massachusetts has given much more alarm than I think it should have done. Calculate that one rebellion in thirteen States in the course of eleven years is but one for each State in a century and a half. No country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of power in the hands of the government prevent insurrections. In England, where the hand of power is heavier than with us, there are seldom half a dozen years without an insurrection. In France, where it is still heavier but less despotic, as Montesquieu supposes, than in some other countries and where there are always two or three hundred thousand men ready to crush insurrections, there have been three in the course of the three years I have been here, in every one of which greater numbers were engaged than in Massachusetts.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to James Madison, Paris, December 20, 1787. The Political Writings Of Thomas Jefferson 67-68 (Dumbauld Ed. 1955)
“I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people, which produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 1787. THE POLITICAL WRITINGS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON 67 (Dumbauld Ed. 1955).
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President letter to Abigail Adams, February 22, 1787; reproduced in Thomas Jefferson, Writings (The Library of America, 1984), p. 889-890
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939
“What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939
“The Bill of Rights is a born rebel. It reeks with sedition. In every clause it shakes its fist in the face of constituted authority... It is the one guarantee of human freedom to the American people.” ~ Frank I. Cobb (1869-1923) American Journalist LaFollette’s Magazine, January 1920
I’m pretty sure Trump is referring to those who were caught changing their clothes into “MAGA” clothing and then proceeding to break windows and encourage others to do the same. Antifa people most likely. Those agitators. Bent on hurting the image of Trump supporters. And it worked. Either hired, self motivated or w/e. Those guys and gals need to sweat some more. Or come clean. They were on video doing so. I remember one specifically. I can see his face but don’t remember his name. He was arrested. MAGA folks were trying to stop them. But the news narrative, three letter agencies involved for what they wanted. 99% of those arrested were innocent. But there are a few who are not. And they are NOT Trump supporters. But they may get pardoned anyway, as I’ve stated in my other post.
Those were not J6'ers, those we government agents or informants. Not the same thing.
Correct, but when you have over 1500 people that they’re moving through a legal system, you have to be able to find those six - that were actual agitators, and make sure that they don’t get pardon. That’s the whole point.
Exactly, but they were arrested none the less. And some were absolutely Antifa. Some of them are sitting down there as well. The fedboi’s I’m sure got their pass. But, as this corrupt government does, they use people, then leave them hanging. Very common.
Thank you. Stewart Rhodes, the founder of Oath Keepers, who never even went into the Capitol, is one of them. He didn't assault anyone.
Seriously?
FJB just pardon people worse than this.
33 murderers who were actually convicted for that, iirc? Nobody from J6 were convicted for murder, right? God, the news is so gaslighty
You think?
True, but Trump is a better man than Biden. The non-violent detainees will (or have) get pardons. Some of the others will likely be the ones that got commutations.
For those that don't know the difference:
pardons give you all your rights back (like - you can own a gun again for example), and erase the conviction.
commutations release you from serving the rest of your sentence but do not give you back any rights you lost, and your conviction stands.
Thank you.
I don't know how many are still in right now but last night it was multiple prison's around the country that were not allowing prisoners to leave.
either way the management team of the Fed prison system need to be fired because they were part of the J6 scam.
And they need to be given some sort of lump sum of money. These poor people have to start their lives over with nothing
Not just fired but charged with crimes as well. Imo.
yes!!!
How is he able to tweet while in jail?
A family member may have access to his account.
People in jail can often pay for phone and Internet time
Correct - many prisoners have tablets for this purpose. One of my old foster kids (now an adult) calls us and emails us from prison whenever he can. Lately he is asking for help in finding a halfway house away from his old family and friends that were bad for him so when he gets out he can change his life. He can research some of that inside, but he doesn't have the aptitude to do it properly (and he recognizes that).
In our case the prison system uses what they call "stamps". You (or the prisoner) buy stamps to allow emails and if you want to send pictures they require more stamps. They are fairly cheap, so it is a good way to keep in touch.
In our case we email and send him pics of our granddaughter - who happens to be his cousin. He brought his sister to us years ago when she had a baby she didn't want so we adopted the baby. He is now in her twenties and had her own baby 2 years ago.
Some of you might remember my post on her because she took the vax and then during her pregnancy she stopped feeling baby movement. I asked for prayers when she went to the ER. Well - seems to have worked since my grandaughter is now 2 and is starting to count (made it to 26 the other day). She seems to be smart for her age. Thanks again for those prayers.
Thrilled to hear this!!!
And podcast equipment? Do you get that in commissary?🤔
Yes, but no chance they'd let political prisoners make their case.
All through these last four years these men supposedly held in solitary and/or being abused by heavy handed guards have had inexplicable access to the internet, some even doing podcasts from prison.
It has always been fishy to me and has led me to suspect that these names and faces that we hear from daily arent what they really seem.
And then you have the dichotomy of the 1600 voiceless others.
I believe there is a non zero chance some of these men were agent provocoteurs and engaged in treason.
Dude - a simple search for prisoner email web gives you several of the programs used in jails and prisons. See my post above for some info.
BTW - the program we use to communicate with one of our old foster kids (who is in prison) is https://securustech.net/emessaging/index.html
Yes. But these are political prisoners held illegally. No way they are given rights that ordinary criminals get. The last thing they want is to let an abused prisoner publicly post that they aren't being let out after being pardoned. That's like robbing a bank and doing everything right then handing the teller a phone to call 911.
Also, sorry about your foster kid. The program can be hard on them. Even the best foster parents can't always keep a kid out of trouble. You have my thoughts.
My question as well fren.
Trump stated they would review each case and that no one violent would be released. That will take some time.
The fact is some of those that were there under cover should take the place of the non-violent protesters. Some of those maybe in jail, but I think many more need to join them that were let loose.
How is he posting?
https://securustech.net/emessaging/index.html is one way I know of. JPay is another, but I haven't used that one yet. I do know the people that actually worked on that one though - used to work with them in a different field.
Just a little info on the guy for what it's worth. https://nypost.com/2024/11/21/us-news/jake-lang-gets-trial-delay-in-hopes-of-trump-pardon-on-jan-6-charges/
https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-32.html
He's a good friend of Roger Avary (director of Killing Zoe) who does a podcast with Quentin Tarantino ... not sure what that makes him but it's odd ...
Precedent set.
If they ignore the pardon, we ignore the FJB pardons.
Send in the military to pay a friendly visit.
Forget the French philosopher, but he said you can tell yhe health of a society by the way prison guards act.
Let the PERSONAL lawsuits begin.
Enemies foreign and domestic................
RED TAPE still exists. Prisons won't release anyone without chain-of-command paperwork; especially on a federal holiday, MLK Day. All the white shirts, judges and other judicial hierarchy are off on holidays.
How is he able to communicate in this way? The J6 hostages have access to social media?
Which one of them was the one who blew through the barrier and leading the charge?
My question is: When and how will the White Hats respond? Sounds like a good time for Overwhelming Force, to me.
If he's in prison, why would they let him tweet this out? Seems fishy.
How is he getting that message out?