They took a huge amount from my pay in 2024 and I want my refund. The entire amount taken during my lifetime would enable me to quit my crappy job and do my own dream business.
I want my property taxes back! I’ll let them keep the original taxes paid at the time of purchase but the annual… I want it all back. I’d be able to buy a few more properties with all the taxes I’ve paid over the years.
As long as the IRS exists, they will expect us to file.
If tons of people revolted by not doing so, I wonder how Trump would react. He may be a bit understanding as to why, but it’s still the law unfortunately.
Yes frens I think it is better in the long run to do taxes as usual til Trump implies or flat out says non compliance is safe.
Also, for self employed people, years of consecutive tax returns are necessary if you want to buy a home etc. So don't shoot yourself in the foot.
I recall sometime in the 80s/90s there was an actual suit that addressed this. It also used to be in the 1040 instructions first page. It originally stated that income tax was a voluntary tax that, once you filed even once, you became obligated to never stop.
The lawsuit effectively confirmed that once you started paying tax you had to keep doing so by contractual obligation.
A couple years later 60min. Or some such interviewed the head of the IRS at the time and questioned the wording of voluntary tax, and the guy said no, it's mandatory, even with the book in his face.
It was a couple years later the wording was changed on the book. I wonder if that was legal to change.
Oh yeah, as to the guy you heard say that income taxes were voluntary, that was senator Harry Reid. He was later asked casually by a reporter and said they were mandatory for "U.S Citizens" and "Taxpayers" (which are legally considered "Federal Employees" for the record. People who work for the federal government and people who live in Washington D.C. do actually have to pay "income taxes". Nobody else does.
You gotta listen carefully. It's all word trickery.
They're messing with ya. If you were obligated forever, they wouldn't ask you to sign "under penalties of perjury" ever year. But yes, I've heard of two cases in "Tax court" --- which isn't even a remotely "lawful" entity - that the judge (who is there to ensure the government wins) grilled a defendant asking "well were you lying then (past tax returns), or are you lying now. Either way you're a liar". And the guy folded and lost. It was deception from the judge. But if you can't avoid landing in "tax court", you've basically lost as it's whole purpose is to ensure you can't win.
The game is simple. You agree you're a man/woman -- AND NOTHING ELSE. You request that "the IRS (a fictional entity)" sends you the direct language in the "Act (meaning it's fake, just an act)" that states a man or woman is required to pay taxes on their labor. They never respond to this request. You ramp it up by putting the pressure on them continuing to ask for this, as well as requesting a man or woman signs the response including their wet signature. They don't respond and realize you figured out the game and that's the end of it.
And BTW - As defined in Black's Law and other legal dictionaries, "Income" is defined as "Corporate Profit". Men and women aren't "corporations". But guess what, "taxpayers" are defined precisely as "corporations". Specifically, your ALL CAPS NAME which is on all legal documents. The ALL CAPS NAME (Strawman) is THE CORPORATION --- more accurately, it's a "trust".
There is only once reason people don't respond to these obvious truths. It's FEAR and nothing else. The reason more people don't take my advice is that they want the "IRS" to send them a letter openly stating that they don't have to pay income taxes. They never do that. They just stop bothering you if they realize you've figured out the game. This stops 90% of the people I explain this too from even trying. It's pure fear.
The process is so simple. You don't talk to them. You ignore their bogus mail until it says "NOTICE 30-days" and then you put the BURDEN back on them. All in writing. No talking to anybody. The IRS has literally 30-40 million "non-filers" (another LEGAL word you should never agree that you are one) and they move on quickly when they realize they're dealing with someone who knows their stuff. The cost of a court case for them is upwards of $250K for starters. If you don't owe this amount, at an absolute minimum, they quickly leave you alone.
But here's the bottom line. If you have fear about not filing, and/or you view the IRS as an "Adversary/Enemy" than you are unwittingly creating an undesirable situation for yourself. I've dealt with dozens of people that can't shake these feelings off and can't see it any other way. I advise them to continue filing until such time as they can see that a fictional entity called "IRS" is nothing to fear and not your enemy. it doesn't even EXIST!!!
And that's the game. You're dealing with a fictional/dead entity (IRS). It needs to trick you into agreeing to be a fictional/dead entity (taxpayer, citizen, resident, trust, etc.) in order to "attach" to you. if you hold your position as a man/woman, with no fear, and no feelings of adversarial interactions, they just vanish into the ethers from which they exist.
One other quick note. The "legal system" is the system of the fictional, the dead entity, the orating-corpse (corporation). It's an "overlay" over our natural system of law. The legal system never applies to men and women, however it is overlayed on things that are lawful, like murder, rape, assault, theft, etc.
Said another way, there are millions of things that are lawful, but not legal - like wearing a seat belt, traveling from one piece of geography to another (with artificial, made-up "national borders"), drinking alcohol at age 14, taking drugs, traveling from point A to point B, swimming naked at your local lake, etc. All these things are "illegal" but completely lawful.
Some things are both unlawful and illegal. Namely and basically all-compassing, any violation of another's free will. "Do unto others..."
Thus, there needs to be a sea-change in how people think about and contemplate a bunch of MAN-MADE RULES & POLICIES, effectively invented by first the Romans (Civil law) and then perfected today by the freemasons in the City of London (Inns of Court).
The legal system was primarily invented to control the slaves (via "civilization"). A far more effective method than brute force and war. It was used in conjunction with man-made religion as well. Together, both are enormously effective methods of forcing human beings to unwittingly choose to have their free will violated.
The secondary purpose of the legal system is of course to protect the controllers. You've been seeing this on display in spades since Trump entered the picture 10 years ago. But it's been happening since time immemorial.
The hijack of the Republic happened in 1871, with the Organic Act and first creation of "The United States of America, Inc." corporation, followed by the creation of the DOJ the year after, and then the insertion of the ABA (American BAR Association) in 1878 - which was how the British freemasons inserted themselves into - well, basically EVERYTHING in American life. All while the south was still held under martial law.
We could eliminate the legal system tomorrow, remove all "legal judges" who have been unlawfully empowered by it to decide both the "facts" and the "law" according to their whim and opinion....aka "lawfare". It's really "LEGALFare". In a lawful system, the judge is merely a "referee", deciding neither the facts or the law. There are no "motions"..."to dismiss" for example. No attorneys (attorners - to take from one and give to another). Instead, there is the man/woman who brings the suit of wrongdoing, and the man/woman accused of wrongdoing. The jury decides the outcome.
It's all very simple and it has worked perfectly for millennia, across all cultures.
The "legal system" is, in effect, "the matrix". Strip it away and lawful behavior and justice will be served by removing the most powerful form of control the cabal wields against the slumbering masses...
Yes, but not before they refund all the money stolen from my taxes meant for legitimate use, plus interest. I've been paying and paying for longer than most on this board have been alive. How much of my money went to line the pockets of criminals in and out of government? How much went to inflated bills for military equipment and other no bid contracts? How much went to give military brass and elite politicians private golf courses and other perks I could only dream of? How much went into things I would never approve of from people like Anthony Fauci?
Yes, abolish the IRS and give us what was stolen through manipulated interest rates, insider trading, hot dog parties in the White House, military equipment left in Afghanistan. The list is endless.
And while you're at it, please consider giving states the ultimatum that there should be no more state or local income or real estate taxes. Otherwise, they get no funding. I've seen so much corruption at the state and local level with each bad road they construct that is full of potholes a year later. With schools that can't teach in spite of high paid teachers and administrators. With fee upon fee for everything you want to do. Want a home monitored alarm? Pay a fee to the city. Want to drive a car, it needs inspected so pay a fee every year to the state. Live in the city and drive a car? Pay a special emissions fee every year. Check your phone bill, utility bills, surcharge after surcharge for everything. Want to pay with a credit card, pay another fee. So much thievery only because they can. Where does all the money go? I don't see anything improving in any meaningful way. No, I want it back, as much as humanly possible. And I want a system change that prevents this from happening again to me or anyone else.
With interest!
yes at credit card rates..... 20+ %
When you sit with this awakened knowledge you really see how “they” have drained us of our wealth. It is breathtaking.
https://youtu.be/Bzz8BvaQL9Q?si=YsdycqyRx91Kbd1w
reparations as well from our parents & great grandparents, lol
Not filling this year. Fuck these faggots!
...the smell of a tax revolt is in the air
They took a huge amount from my pay in 2024 and I want my refund. The entire amount taken during my lifetime would enable me to quit my crappy job and do my own dream business.
I want my property taxes back! I’ll let them keep the original taxes paid at the time of purchase but the annual… I want it all back. I’d be able to buy a few more properties with all the taxes I’ve paid over the years.
Would let me go ahead and retire.
You sound like a pureblood patriot. 😎
Right on fren. Right on
It was created
It can be destroyed
Past time... Taxation is theft.
File or Not File? What should we do?
Vax or no vax.
What did you do? (Just saying’). 😁
No Vax, No Tax!!
As long as the IRS exists, they will expect us to file.
If tons of people revolted by not doing so, I wonder how Trump would react. He may be a bit understanding as to why, but it’s still the law unfortunately.
Yes frens I think it is better in the long run to do taxes as usual til Trump implies or flat out says non compliance is safe. Also, for self employed people, years of consecutive tax returns are necessary if you want to buy a home etc. So don't shoot yourself in the foot.
Not if stop admitting you're a "taxpayer" and a "Resident (of the district of Columbia").
Men and women are not required to pay taxes. Taxpayers and Residents (legal terms0 are.
I recall sometime in the 80s/90s there was an actual suit that addressed this. It also used to be in the 1040 instructions first page. It originally stated that income tax was a voluntary tax that, once you filed even once, you became obligated to never stop.
The lawsuit effectively confirmed that once you started paying tax you had to keep doing so by contractual obligation.
A couple years later 60min. Or some such interviewed the head of the IRS at the time and questioned the wording of voluntary tax, and the guy said no, it's mandatory, even with the book in his face.
It was a couple years later the wording was changed on the book. I wonder if that was legal to change.
Oh yeah, as to the guy you heard say that income taxes were voluntary, that was senator Harry Reid. He was later asked casually by a reporter and said they were mandatory for "U.S Citizens" and "Taxpayers" (which are legally considered "Federal Employees" for the record. People who work for the federal government and people who live in Washington D.C. do actually have to pay "income taxes". Nobody else does.
You gotta listen carefully. It's all word trickery.
They're messing with ya. If you were obligated forever, they wouldn't ask you to sign "under penalties of perjury" ever year. But yes, I've heard of two cases in "Tax court" --- which isn't even a remotely "lawful" entity - that the judge (who is there to ensure the government wins) grilled a defendant asking "well were you lying then (past tax returns), or are you lying now. Either way you're a liar". And the guy folded and lost. It was deception from the judge. But if you can't avoid landing in "tax court", you've basically lost as it's whole purpose is to ensure you can't win.
The game is simple. You agree you're a man/woman -- AND NOTHING ELSE. You request that "the IRS (a fictional entity)" sends you the direct language in the "Act (meaning it's fake, just an act)" that states a man or woman is required to pay taxes on their labor. They never respond to this request. You ramp it up by putting the pressure on them continuing to ask for this, as well as requesting a man or woman signs the response including their wet signature. They don't respond and realize you figured out the game and that's the end of it.
And BTW - As defined in Black's Law and other legal dictionaries, "Income" is defined as "Corporate Profit". Men and women aren't "corporations". But guess what, "taxpayers" are defined precisely as "corporations". Specifically, your ALL CAPS NAME which is on all legal documents. The ALL CAPS NAME (Strawman) is THE CORPORATION --- more accurately, it's a "trust".
There is only once reason people don't respond to these obvious truths. It's FEAR and nothing else. The reason more people don't take my advice is that they want the "IRS" to send them a letter openly stating that they don't have to pay income taxes. They never do that. They just stop bothering you if they realize you've figured out the game. This stops 90% of the people I explain this too from even trying. It's pure fear.
The process is so simple. You don't talk to them. You ignore their bogus mail until it says "NOTICE 30-days" and then you put the BURDEN back on them. All in writing. No talking to anybody. The IRS has literally 30-40 million "non-filers" (another LEGAL word you should never agree that you are one) and they move on quickly when they realize they're dealing with someone who knows their stuff. The cost of a court case for them is upwards of $250K for starters. If you don't owe this amount, at an absolute minimum, they quickly leave you alone.
But here's the bottom line. If you have fear about not filing, and/or you view the IRS as an "Adversary/Enemy" than you are unwittingly creating an undesirable situation for yourself. I've dealt with dozens of people that can't shake these feelings off and can't see it any other way. I advise them to continue filing until such time as they can see that a fictional entity called "IRS" is nothing to fear and not your enemy. it doesn't even EXIST!!!
And that's the game. You're dealing with a fictional/dead entity (IRS). It needs to trick you into agreeing to be a fictional/dead entity (taxpayer, citizen, resident, trust, etc.) in order to "attach" to you. if you hold your position as a man/woman, with no fear, and no feelings of adversarial interactions, they just vanish into the ethers from which they exist.
One other quick note. The "legal system" is the system of the fictional, the dead entity, the orating-corpse (corporation). It's an "overlay" over our natural system of law. The legal system never applies to men and women, however it is overlayed on things that are lawful, like murder, rape, assault, theft, etc.
Said another way, there are millions of things that are lawful, but not legal - like wearing a seat belt, traveling from one piece of geography to another (with artificial, made-up "national borders"), drinking alcohol at age 14, taking drugs, traveling from point A to point B, swimming naked at your local lake, etc. All these things are "illegal" but completely lawful.
Some things are both unlawful and illegal. Namely and basically all-compassing, any violation of another's free will. "Do unto others..."
Thus, there needs to be a sea-change in how people think about and contemplate a bunch of MAN-MADE RULES & POLICIES, effectively invented by first the Romans (Civil law) and then perfected today by the freemasons in the City of London (Inns of Court).
The legal system was primarily invented to control the slaves (via "civilization"). A far more effective method than brute force and war. It was used in conjunction with man-made religion as well. Together, both are enormously effective methods of forcing human beings to unwittingly choose to have their free will violated.
The secondary purpose of the legal system is of course to protect the controllers. You've been seeing this on display in spades since Trump entered the picture 10 years ago. But it's been happening since time immemorial.
The hijack of the Republic happened in 1871, with the Organic Act and first creation of "The United States of America, Inc." corporation, followed by the creation of the DOJ the year after, and then the insertion of the ABA (American BAR Association) in 1878 - which was how the British freemasons inserted themselves into - well, basically EVERYTHING in American life. All while the south was still held under martial law.
We could eliminate the legal system tomorrow, remove all "legal judges" who have been unlawfully empowered by it to decide both the "facts" and the "law" according to their whim and opinion....aka "lawfare". It's really "LEGALFare". In a lawful system, the judge is merely a "referee", deciding neither the facts or the law. There are no "motions"..."to dismiss" for example. No attorneys (attorners - to take from one and give to another). Instead, there is the man/woman who brings the suit of wrongdoing, and the man/woman accused of wrongdoing. The jury decides the outcome.
It's all very simple and it has worked perfectly for millennia, across all cultures.
The "legal system" is, in effect, "the matrix". Strip it away and lawful behavior and justice will be served by removing the most powerful form of control the cabal wields against the slumbering masses...
Paying protection money to the mafia is also voluntary.
What if we file an extension? Not familiar with those so idk if there is a time limit.
Cool - file an extension so you can pay later (with interest so you are actually giving them more money)...
There are forms you can file to opt out. That makes it legal. But....
But taxes owed are supposed to be paid with the extension filing. So not an actual benefit besides delaying paperwork.
They still collect from people with 1099's or capital gains.
Oh God. If we could run a small business without income tax! It makes the blood rush just to think of the freedom and joy!
Filing an extension and waiting it out
You still have to pay by April 15th even with an extension.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/taxpayers-remember-an-extension-to-file-is-not-an-extension-to-pay-taxes
Correct and thanks fren. It just keeps them off your back (supposedly) until after the October date.
if you're gonna do it, do it NOW because there are some people who haven't done their taxes yet.
Just sayin.... lol.
That wasn't a Question.
Class-Action Lawsuits are very effective
Abolish income taxes. Taxation is THEFT
Right you are, Dan!
And while we're at it, how about we DESTROY THE ATF?
I cant wait, what an absolute pain in the ass tax time is. All unnecessary crap designed to steal your hard work and effort.
Please do!!! Before we have to send in this years taxes 🙏
Hands down one of the best posts I’ve ever seen from Dan
Yes, but not before they refund all the money stolen from my taxes meant for legitimate use, plus interest. I've been paying and paying for longer than most on this board have been alive. How much of my money went to line the pockets of criminals in and out of government? How much went to inflated bills for military equipment and other no bid contracts? How much went to give military brass and elite politicians private golf courses and other perks I could only dream of? How much went into things I would never approve of from people like Anthony Fauci?
Yes, abolish the IRS and give us what was stolen through manipulated interest rates, insider trading, hot dog parties in the White House, military equipment left in Afghanistan. The list is endless.
And while you're at it, please consider giving states the ultimatum that there should be no more state or local income or real estate taxes. Otherwise, they get no funding. I've seen so much corruption at the state and local level with each bad road they construct that is full of potholes a year later. With schools that can't teach in spite of high paid teachers and administrators. With fee upon fee for everything you want to do. Want a home monitored alarm? Pay a fee to the city. Want to drive a car, it needs inspected so pay a fee every year to the state. Live in the city and drive a car? Pay a special emissions fee every year. Check your phone bill, utility bills, surcharge after surcharge for everything. Want to pay with a credit card, pay another fee. So much thievery only because they can. Where does all the money go? I don't see anything improving in any meaningful way. No, I want it back, as much as humanly possible. And I want a system change that prevents this from happening again to me or anyone else.
Not if illegal assets of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc. were confiscated and re-distributed.
Which is just about what the Rothschilds currently possess.
Said it before and I'll say it again. As long as the IRS exist and we are taxed on property there will be no MAGA possible.