Yes, that particular barrier has been broken: Presidents can be dragged through the courts. And I am happy to support such a practice, because even four years can cause untold damage, if one gets a lunatic, or a puppet. Imagine if one got a Intelligence community Hunta. What would one have to do? The President has to splain hisself.
I believe, last time round (of prosecuting a past President), hat there was even a plan for incarcerating DJT, complete with an open-door quartered secret service detail, in one whole wing. But we didn't get to see that, because, it didn't happen. LOL
But, we did get to hear all the salacious, and mostly fake, details, thanks to a certain judge, shall we say, who was putting his thumb on the scales.
This time round, I guess we will have to stok up on popcorn for round two of moment-by-moment court-reporting and a reaaally smart prosecution, versus an ideologically possessed-seeming defense - simple fantasies to cover for the IC psyop - so it's going to sound very silly.
The crucial point for a presidential conviction is to have solid, verified evidence. In other words, Cold Hard evidence. No conjecture upon motives, or even secret sauces etc.
That's where their '32 counts' of 'federal fraud' fell down:
The alleged crime was of labelling money-going-to-lawyer as legal expenses . (erm, it ain't repairs & maintenance, or utility bills, or rent, but the jury had a very low IQ).
This time around, Tulsi has official communications - showing that ALL of the conspirators knew that the story of Russia interference was untrue. But they had a documented neeting in the Oval Office (only record is of who was there, so far) and afterwards magicly 180-announced that Russia, Russia, Russia.
For years.
Conveniently, all during Trunp's 1.0.
Oh yeah, and plotting to commit treason, to 'get Trump'.
The thing that strikes me is how X22Dave keep s being proven right. I had a hard time believing that DJT was allowing the DS to set the precedent that former presidents can be charged. It just seemed pretty far-fetched to me. And yet we now see that it's true.
I had an idea that was happening as well. But Trump still had to get reelected. Very early on, it seemed that the Trump team was vetting podcasters and other media people to later drop hints to. I think X-22 was vetted positively.
I was trying to figure out why people are all writing these long ass posts when, really, this is all that is needed. As you put it, photobuf, "there is not immunity for treason."
I think the Epstein list is a distraction from RussiaGate. It makes sense not to dwell on it when we know there's overlap for other crimes.
Its more important that he's shut down and the border is secured.
The pedo stuff is going to come out as part of discovery in other trials and then tie back into Epstein, while the dems want any kind of circus or distraction to tie up the courts for the next 4 years chasing down ghosts or bs injected into those documents this whole time.
Just from looking at the injunction storm, it's obvious there's an attempt to legally paralyze the admin. Letting the Dems and RINOs preside over any kind of trial or give them a chance to subvert any special council appointed over it is too risky.
The pedo stuff is going to come out as part of discovery in other trials and then tie back into Epstein, while the dems want any kind of circus or distraction to tie up the courts for the next 4 years chasing down ghosts or bs injected into those documents this whole time.
Isn’t it so obvious now? This was all leading to what is happening now. It’s straight up nuts and these times are when I have no doubt there is a true operation going on behind the scenes. They broke down every barrier that would have protected Obama, just in time for this all to flesh out. Nuts!
Oh yeah. The fog is lifting and it's totally 4K clear what is happening. We've been waiting a LONG time for it and seems now's the time. The normies are losing it over what the DNI said last night and the MSM is in full pant shitting mode over the grand jury testimony that will be coming out. I can honestly say the next 2 weeks are going to be fucking insane and none of that "ohh 2 more weeks" bullshit. It's happening and it's getting better everyday.
When all my friends and family were freaking out that Trump was being persecuted and prosecuted, I was sitting back sipping lemonade by the pool telling them not to worry. "This needs to happen because it's all a set up to establish one thing..."
Precedent.
Precedent (n.) A principle or rule established in a previous legal case that is either binding on or persuasive for a court.
For over a year now I said the same thing here about J6.
'We' went through the pain; now is time for the fruit.
Ahhh we’ve been waiting like a cat watching its prey, for the DS to use this argument. It’ll be impossible to sidestep all of the mistakes the DS made.
I believe that democrats hounding Trump with lawfare and dangling jail time over his head relentlessly his entire presidency is a whitehat plan, with Trump in on it.
All for the express purpose of getting the general public accustomed to presidents being able to be arrested. This is the ultimate counter when people bring up that Obama should be immune.
ok great, but if these people are openly accused and NOTHING HAPPENS TO THEM - there are no arrests, no trials - all that does is further embolden the bad actors to do whatever the hell they want because they know they'll get away with it.
ARRESTS and TRIALS or just forget the whole thing.
Stop rubbing it in our faces that these people get away with absolutely everything and we can do nothing about it.
How sweet the air will smell with the left crying tears of sorrow screaming Trump is using his DOJ to go after his political opponents. The chickens on the view, clucking how Trump a dictator. The MSM what little is left of them running stories on how this is unprecedented that a sitting President is arresting his opponents calling him a dictator. The best will be the so called experts saying no President ever arrested political opponents before.
I thought the requirement is typically a really high bar in order to charge a President criminally for offences committed in office. They would have to be impeached first, but perhaps this can be proved to be not in official President capacity if this is on personal email servers, etc..
You faggot. You have presidential immunity for official actions of a president. Not for conspiracy, sedition, espionage, wiretapping, or treason. You faggot.
Yes, that particular barrier has been broken: Presidents can be dragged through the courts. And I am happy to support such a practice, because even four years can cause untold damage, if one gets a lunatic, or a puppet. Imagine if one got a Intelligence community Hunta. What would one have to do? The President has to splain hisself.
I believe, last time round (of prosecuting a past President), hat there was even a plan for incarcerating DJT, complete with an open-door quartered secret service detail, in one whole wing. But we didn't get to see that, because, it didn't happen. LOL
But, we did get to hear all the salacious, and mostly fake, details, thanks to a certain judge, shall we say, who was putting his thumb on the scales.
This time round, I guess we will have to stok up on popcorn for round two of moment-by-moment court-reporting and a reaaally smart prosecution, versus an ideologically possessed-seeming defense - simple fantasies to cover for the IC psyop - so it's going to sound very silly.
The crucial point for a presidential conviction is to have solid, verified evidence. In other words, Cold Hard evidence. No conjecture upon motives, or even secret sauces etc.
That's where their '32 counts' of 'federal fraud' fell down:
The alleged crime was of labelling money-going-to-lawyer as legal expenses . (erm, it ain't repairs & maintenance, or utility bills, or rent, but the jury had a very low IQ).
This time around, Tulsi has official communications - showing that ALL of the conspirators knew that the story of Russia interference was untrue. But they had a documented neeting in the Oval Office (only record is of who was there, so far) and afterwards magicly 180-announced that Russia, Russia, Russia.
For years.
Conveniently, all during Trunp's 1.0.
Oh yeah, and plotting to commit treason, to 'get Trump'.
The thing that strikes me is how X22Dave keep s being proven right. I had a hard time believing that DJT was allowing the DS to set the precedent that former presidents can be charged. It just seemed pretty far-fetched to me. And yet we now see that it's true.
I had an idea that was happening as well. But Trump still had to get reelected. Very early on, it seemed that the Trump team was vetting podcasters and other media people to later drop hints to. I think X-22 was vetted positively.
u/#q894
This one is so good to remember!!!
Kek! There is no immunity for treason!
I was trying to figure out why people are all writing these long ass posts when, really, this is all that is needed. As you put it, photobuf, "there is not immunity for treason."
So what's the Punishment for SPYING, Espionage, and SABOTAGE???
I think the Epstein list is a distraction from RussiaGate. It makes sense not to dwell on it when we know there's overlap for other crimes.
Its more important that he's shut down and the border is secured.
The pedo stuff is going to come out as part of discovery in other trials and then tie back into Epstein, while the dems want any kind of circus or distraction to tie up the courts for the next 4 years chasing down ghosts or bs injected into those documents this whole time.
Just from looking at the injunction storm, it's obvious there's an attempt to legally paralyze the admin. Letting the Dems and RINOs preside over any kind of trial or give them a chance to subvert any special council appointed over it is too risky.
All three movies playing at the same time. With rotating exiting moments??
Perhaps this will put a stop to that.
u/#q1933
This Labor Day weekend?
This is why Trump endured everything he did. Evey step he took was setting up precident for future prosicutions of former presidents.
Isn’t it so obvious now? This was all leading to what is happening now. It’s straight up nuts and these times are when I have no doubt there is a true operation going on behind the scenes. They broke down every barrier that would have protected Obama, just in time for this all to flesh out. Nuts!
Oh yeah. The fog is lifting and it's totally 4K clear what is happening. We've been waiting a LONG time for it and seems now's the time. The normies are losing it over what the DNI said last night and the MSM is in full pant shitting mode over the grand jury testimony that will be coming out. I can honestly say the next 2 weeks are going to be fucking insane and none of that "ohh 2 more weeks" bullshit. It's happening and it's getting better everyday.
POTUS has a special kind of "Intestinal Fortitude".
You spelled "testicular" wrong.
kek.
Yes, I'm a "lady" :)
When all my friends and family were freaking out that Trump was being persecuted and prosecuted, I was sitting back sipping lemonade by the pool telling them not to worry. "This needs to happen because it's all a set up to establish one thing..."
Precedent.
Precedent (n.) A principle or rule established in a previous legal case that is either binding on or persuasive for a court.
For over a year now I said the same thing here about J6.
'We' went through the pain; now is time for the fruit.
Ahhh we’ve been waiting like a cat watching its prey, for the DS to use this argument. It’ll be impossible to sidestep all of the mistakes the DS made.
I'm old enough to remember every single investation, special investigation, probe, special council, etc... formed against Trump.
These people can go fuck them selves in jail.
I believe that democrats hounding Trump with lawfare and dangling jail time over his head relentlessly his entire presidency is a whitehat plan, with Trump in on it.
All for the express purpose of getting the general public accustomed to presidents being able to be arrested. This is the ultimate counter when people bring up that Obama should be immune.
That is cute where the low info brain goes when totally confused by real facts
More importantly a coup is treason. Same rules of immunity do not apply.
ok great, but if these people are openly accused and NOTHING HAPPENS TO THEM - there are no arrests, no trials - all that does is further embolden the bad actors to do whatever the hell they want because they know they'll get away with it.
ARRESTS and TRIALS or just forget the whole thing.
Stop rubbing it in our faces that these people get away with absolutely everything and we can do nothing about it.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/its-treason-trump-unloads-obama-probes-political-opposition
4D chess. Boomerang. It had to be this way. You’re gonna love the way this ends.
How sweet the air will smell with the left crying tears of sorrow screaming Trump is using his DOJ to go after his political opponents. The chickens on the view, clucking how Trump a dictator. The MSM what little is left of them running stories on how this is unprecedented that a sitting President is arresting his opponents calling him a dictator. The best will be the so called experts saying no President ever arrested political opponents before.
6 am FBI raids. Just like they did to Roger Stone. With America's Voice Jack Posobiec there live.
Those snarkey precedents can really bite your a$$.
I knew this was going to come back and bite them in the ass something fierce.
Spying on political opponents is not "official duty" and therefore not covered.
I thought the requirement is typically a really high bar in order to charge a President criminally for offences committed in office. They would have to be impeached first, but perhaps this can be proved to be not in official President capacity if this is on personal email servers, etc..
I wonder why Barry went on a shadow tour of POTUS45? Moved to Washinton DC? Valerie Jarrett moved in to his DC war room?
Hey Foebama
You faggot. You have presidential immunity for official actions of a president. Not for conspiracy, sedition, espionage, wiretapping, or treason. You faggot.