Shutting it down always illustrates how little we need what we pay so much for.
Perfectly stated anon
Every time they shut it down, I root for it and celebrate how NOTHING BAD HAPPENS EVER—except maybe fascist asshole cops physically abusing elder WWII veterans at the memorial in DC, which the bad people in govt like to close for no reason other than to offend and oppress veterans.
I'm trying to figure out what is the big deal about a shutdown. I believe vital stuff such as national defense is kept open. In the past, the only thing I remember people complaining about was national parks shut down. Would we notice if there is no Labor Department? No Department of Education?
Almost none of these agencies are in the Constitution.
I have the wild idea that we need a permanent shutdown.
The National Parks are all I remember too. Those stories were all over the news when the government shut down. I remember wondering why we care. I agree. Shut the whole thing down, maybe permanently.
I remember one shutdown where the dems were complaining that the Washington DC monuments were closed. They chained them up and put guards around to shoo people away. Just idiotic.
The only good part of that is that would've put a bad memory in the heads of kids that were trying to visit DC on a school trip and weren't allowed to visit the sites. I hope some of them remembered how bad and petty the dems were when they voted for the first time.
The longest shut down in history was in 2018, it lasted 35 days. The Depts of Labor and EDU still operate, they are just on delayed pay, so when it reopens, they get a paycheck. Same with every other department. Things like national parks shut down to visitors due to the staffing not being considered 100% needed.
But, everything pretty much runs the same, some people might just have to wait a month for a paycheck.
This is a great way of reducing the size of government. Darn, what will I do if there isn't anybody to answer the telephone at the EPA? I really need to know if burning my brush pile is going to harm the environment of Mongolia.
This counts as whenfagging, but every day that goes by with zero arrests of the traitorous demons, hope grows just a tiny bit dimmer.
It might be easy to say Oh well, looks like Trump got hoodwinked again in the personnel dept. at FBI and DOJ; these people are going to do nothing but obfuscate and deflect and stall and "Nothing to see here" until the statute of limitations and Trump's term expire. But it FEELS better to take a hit of hopium and just continue to live in the sort of expectant reality where it starts occurring someday soon somehow.
I was just being cute but, I surmise it will all be over by July 2026. I think the deltas will line up with October/November and the storm will come around then. Trump will get a good 3 years of Glory, there's just no way it's going to be handled to run the full course of his term. Good times ahead.
This is why we needed the big beautiful bill. So we can create new agencies to our liking, and fund agencies like ICE to the full extent. Then completely defund the woke crap. It will be harder to undo what Trump has done when the dems get back in power.
Hopefully this youth movement that appears to be happening can carry us to at least four more years beyond Trump to solidify it all. The US may actually have a chance.
I understand that this is a frightening thought. But they will win another presidential election someday. And the pendulum will swing too far that direction like it always does.
I also know that you are just joking, and I’m am not telling you something you don’t know. ;^).
I only spoke in generalities. Are you saying that some of the bill doesn’t go to immigration enforcement?
Edit to add*** I am just coming from the perspective of someone that did not like the idea of the big beautiful bill and its enormous spending. It freaked me out and I just put my trust in Trump that he had a plan.
My statement that you commented on was just me thinking out loud that maybe the BBB was used to insulate the important things against a shut down and Trump will use the BBB in conjunction with the shutdown to actually lower the deficit and get rid of deep state spending and waste. At least gradually.
I know it had the usual hyperbole from both sides. Republicans claim tax cuts. Democrats claim it will starve the old and young. I trusted Trump to use it to improve the economy like he did before the plandemic.
But beyond all of that is where I think the 3D chess moves occur. Insure that the basics like social security and Medicare are safe so that he could go to war and force the Dems to overplay their “shut down the government” hand. But also insure that immigration enforcement money is secure to continue no matter what the Dems try.
If you want to point to somewhere where you broke down the BBB and prove to me you understood it all I would look at it. I doubt you did or can beyond basics what we all are familiar with.
But sure, I voted for Trump and trust him to make the best deals for us that he can. Even not knowing exactly what he has in mind.
I typically root for gov't shutdowns...and I'm a 25-year federal gov't employee. Part of me is rooting for THIS shutdown next week -- POTUS needs to make an example of these radical, career Dem politicians and their unwillingness to concede ANYTHING in terms of negotiation.
HOWEVER...I'm officially retiring from fed gov't service TOMORROW, which means my retirement package -- which under NORMAL circumstances, takes 2-3 months to process BEFORE I start getting my fed gov't pension -- could sit on an OPM drone's desk, unprocessed, for potentially extra days, weeks, months until this potential shutdown is finished...and I might not have any income until after the start of 2026.
Yeah, I'm still rooting for this shutdown if only to make the radical Dems look like intractable assholes...but I also might not have any income for a fairly long time, depending on how long this goes on. :/
I sort of figure that civil service is a place where they stick unneeded workers and sort of spread the wealth in exchange for them occasionally doing something useful. Now that we have AI, 3D printing and mass production, how many jobs will there be that are practical and necessary? There was a time when half the population were farmers. Now it's less than ten percent and a big bunch of bean counters.
The problem with mass firing plans, most leftist bureaucrats with TDS will deliberately fire essential workers just to create mayhem and then blame the after effects on Trump…
During Obama's administration there was a shut down for around 2-3 weeks. All nonessential workers were off. The EPA operated on 15% of their workforce. IMO we can use this shut down time to figure out just how many employees are needed in each agency.
On a personal note, my brother served in the military, has retired and now works in the civilian quarter of doing exact same job as in the military, only on the civilian side .
He's worried 😟...he still has two children at home. I don't wish firing on anyone.
I'm a nurse. I can find a job anywhere but With such specialized employment, where do they go?
I mean. This actually makes sense. If there isn't a budget for your position, you can't be paid. If you can't be paid, you should be let go. Name me a single business or industry where you are kept on as an employee if they have to stop paying you? If they can't pass a budget, there should be real consequences. Not this thing where everyone gets a free paid vacation. If it's one of the core critical government services, I can understand the exception. But fuck that if we should keep one of the 10s of thousands of positions where it literally does not matter if that department gets shut down permanently. After a budget is passed, we can reassess if that department is actually needed or not.
Kind of reminds me of the scene from Blazing Saddles where the black sheriff points a gun at his own head and says "anyone move and the n***** gets it" or something like that. Nothing but love to my black American brothers and sisters. Just saying.
I can get behind this. For all too long has the dog and pony show trick been used to extort money out of Washington by the horrific, oh my Go***d our country will implode if you don't fund our government to avoid the shutdown!
According to Grok. Any government shutdown creates a lapse. The lapse itself creates the legel opening for a RIF.
No minimum duration is required for RIF initiation—the lapse itself creates the legal opening under 5 C.F.R. Part 351, deeming unfunded PPAs "no longer statutorily required." A short shutdown doesn't halt the process; it accelerates it by providing cover for cuts that align with the broader "Department of Government Efficiency" (DOGE) initiative.
Shutting it down always illustrates how little we need what we pay so much for.
Perfectly stated anon
Every time they shut it down, I root for it and celebrate how NOTHING BAD HAPPENS EVER—except maybe fascist asshole cops physically abusing elder WWII veterans at the memorial in DC, which the bad people in govt like to close for no reason other than to offend and oppress veterans.
The worst is a bunch of moving mouths by politicians on fake news. I mean government shutdown is the most sanest time for government spending.
I'm trying to figure out what is the big deal about a shutdown. I believe vital stuff such as national defense is kept open. In the past, the only thing I remember people complaining about was national parks shut down. Would we notice if there is no Labor Department? No Department of Education?
Almost none of these agencies are in the Constitution.
I have the wild idea that we need a permanent shutdown.
I vote YES! Shut it down.
Trump should agree to meet with democrats, but let press cover the entire meeting, no off camera negotiations.
The National Parks are all I remember too. Those stories were all over the news when the government shut down. I remember wondering why we care. I agree. Shut the whole thing down, maybe permanently.
I remember one shutdown where the dems were complaining that the Washington DC monuments were closed. They chained them up and put guards around to shoo people away. Just idiotic.
The only good part of that is that would've put a bad memory in the heads of kids that were trying to visit DC on a school trip and weren't allowed to visit the sites. I hope some of them remembered how bad and petty the dems were when they voted for the first time.
That was Obama that did that. He wanted to punish people for not voting in his spending plans.
I bet unless the kids are eligible to vote in 2026, they will learn about democrats in history books in 2028.
Are school books even printed anymore? They will have to learn it through Grok. Ugh.
Yeah but they shut them down for the academic too.
The longest shut down in history was in 2018, it lasted 35 days. The Depts of Labor and EDU still operate, they are just on delayed pay, so when it reopens, they get a paycheck. Same with every other department. Things like national parks shut down to visitors due to the staffing not being considered 100% needed.
But, everything pretty much runs the same, some people might just have to wait a month for a paycheck.
That is correct.
Permanent shut down.... you made me smile from ear to ear.
There isn't one. They spend less money but Congress doesn't shut down.
SHUT it DOWN........... dems own it
I think SCOTUS cleared the way for this so there's no legal ambiguity he can 100% do this.
Meet with the dems but let press cover entire negotiations, no off camera shenanigans.
They should have kept this secret. SURPRIZE!!!
No kidding. Dems and RINOs have painted themselves into a corner.
This is a great way of reducing the size of government. Darn, what will I do if there isn't anybody to answer the telephone at the EPA? I really need to know if burning my brush pile is going to harm the environment of Mongolia.
Not only that, but recess appointments! Fuck you Congress!
Holy fuck, we need MASS ARRESTS by now.
NCSWIC, and WWG1WGA...but when?
This counts as whenfagging, but every day that goes by with zero arrests of the traitorous demons, hope grows just a tiny bit dimmer.
It might be easy to say Oh well, looks like Trump got hoodwinked again in the personnel dept. at FBI and DOJ; these people are going to do nothing but obfuscate and deflect and stall and "Nothing to see here" until the statute of limitations and Trump's term expire. But it FEELS better to take a hit of hopium and just continue to live in the sort of expectant reality where it starts occurring someday soon somehow.
I was just being cute but, I surmise it will all be over by July 2026. I think the deltas will line up with October/November and the storm will come around then. Trump will get a good 3 years of Glory, there's just no way it's going to be handled to run the full course of his term. Good times ahead.
Yeah it seems to coincide with many dates.
Red October looks to start next week :P
This is why we needed the big beautiful bill. So we can create new agencies to our liking, and fund agencies like ICE to the full extent. Then completely defund the woke crap. It will be harder to undo what Trump has done when the dems get back in power.
Hopefully this youth movement that appears to be happening can carry us to at least four more years beyond Trump to solidify it all. The US may actually have a chance.
Need to wash your mouth—er, keyboard out with soap, anon ;)
We know you don't "wannabe" right about this one
I understand that this is a frightening thought. But they will win another presidential election someday. And the pendulum will swing too far that direction like it always does.
I also know that you are just joking, and I’m am not telling you something you don’t know. ;^).
That's not what was in that bill.
I only spoke in generalities. Are you saying that some of the bill doesn’t go to immigration enforcement?
Edit to add*** I am just coming from the perspective of someone that did not like the idea of the big beautiful bill and its enormous spending. It freaked me out and I just put my trust in Trump that he had a plan.
My statement that you commented on was just me thinking out loud that maybe the BBB was used to insulate the important things against a shut down and Trump will use the BBB in conjunction with the shutdown to actually lower the deficit and get rid of deep state spending and waste. At least gradually.
So you are claiming a bill will do something, but you have zero idea what is even written in that bill?
I know it had the usual hyperbole from both sides. Republicans claim tax cuts. Democrats claim it will starve the old and young. I trusted Trump to use it to improve the economy like he did before the plandemic.
But beyond all of that is where I think the 3D chess moves occur. Insure that the basics like social security and Medicare are safe so that he could go to war and force the Dems to overplay their “shut down the government” hand. But also insure that immigration enforcement money is secure to continue no matter what the Dems try.
If you want to point to somewhere where you broke down the BBB and prove to me you understood it all I would look at it. I doubt you did or can beyond basics what we all are familiar with.
But sure, I voted for Trump and trust him to make the best deals for us that he can. Even not knowing exactly what he has in mind.
The debt has gone up 16% since January 2025.
Where's the firing range at?
And how much are tickets....
hell ill go for free how bout you?
Can’t wait for the mass firings of the SES!!
Remember the q drop.. when????..."shutdown" This paired with SECDEF calling all those officers for a briefing is very telling
...coincidence no
I typically root for gov't shutdowns...and I'm a 25-year federal gov't employee. Part of me is rooting for THIS shutdown next week -- POTUS needs to make an example of these radical, career Dem politicians and their unwillingness to concede ANYTHING in terms of negotiation.
HOWEVER...I'm officially retiring from fed gov't service TOMORROW, which means my retirement package -- which under NORMAL circumstances, takes 2-3 months to process BEFORE I start getting my fed gov't pension -- could sit on an OPM drone's desk, unprocessed, for potentially extra days, weeks, months until this potential shutdown is finished...and I might not have any income until after the start of 2026.
Yeah, I'm still rooting for this shutdown if only to make the radical Dems look like intractable assholes...but I also might not have any income for a fairly long time, depending on how long this goes on. :/
Wow glad your getting to retire tomorrow. I wish you a great retirement from your position, and hope that everything works to your advantage.
Hopefully, you have enough funds set aside to get you across any gap you might face.
You are a true patriots willing to support something that might not be to you advantage. Good Luck, and Prayers.
Thank you, fren! I think we will be okay.
They should have kept this secret. SURPRIZE!!!
Thanks Mods!
I sort of figure that civil service is a place where they stick unneeded workers and sort of spread the wealth in exchange for them occasionally doing something useful. Now that we have AI, 3D printing and mass production, how many jobs will there be that are practical and necessary? There was a time when half the population were farmers. Now it's less than ten percent and a big bunch of bean counters.
The problem with mass firing plans, most leftist bureaucrats with TDS will deliberately fire essential workers just to create mayhem and then blame the after effects on Trump…
During Obama's administration there was a shut down for around 2-3 weeks. All nonessential workers were off. The EPA operated on 15% of their workforce. IMO we can use this shut down time to figure out just how many employees are needed in each agency.
And employees kept working, then once the government opened back up, they got their back pay. Not much actually shut down.
Agree, and whether the agency is actually essential/needed or not.
I guarantee that the government won't shut down. The Democrats and Republicans are on the same team, and this is all for show.
u/#pratt
On a personal note, my brother served in the military, has retired and now works in the civilian quarter of doing exact same job as in the military, only on the civilian side .
He's worried 😟...he still has two children at home. I don't wish firing on anyone.
I'm a nurse. I can find a job anywhere but With such specialized employment, where do they go?
I don't know what else to say, but I hope everything works out good for you brother.
I mean. This actually makes sense. If there isn't a budget for your position, you can't be paid. If you can't be paid, you should be let go. Name me a single business or industry where you are kept on as an employee if they have to stop paying you? If they can't pass a budget, there should be real consequences. Not this thing where everyone gets a free paid vacation. If it's one of the core critical government services, I can understand the exception. But fuck that if we should keep one of the 10s of thousands of positions where it literally does not matter if that department gets shut down permanently. After a budget is passed, we can reassess if that department is actually needed or not.
lol
A GREAT Idea!
Kind of reminds me of the scene from Blazing Saddles where the black sheriff points a gun at his own head and says "anyone move and the n***** gets it" or something like that. Nothing but love to my black American brothers and sisters. Just saying.
I definitely think we need to work up a #6 on them democrats.
Except we may have to skip doing the woman at the #6 dance later on cause who wants to mess with those weird chicks.
I can get behind this. For all too long has the dog and pony show trick been used to extort money out of Washington by the horrific, oh my Go***d our country will implode if you don't fund our government to avoid the shutdown!
Reasons for firings?
According to Grok. Any government shutdown creates a lapse. The lapse itself creates the legel opening for a RIF.
No minimum duration is required for RIF initiation—the lapse itself creates the legal opening under 5 C.F.R. Part 351, deeming unfunded PPAs "no longer statutorily required." A short shutdown doesn't halt the process; it accelerates it by providing cover for cuts that align with the broader "Department of Government Efficiency" (DOGE) initiative.
He won't need to rehire them, they furlow, meaning they wind up working for free anyways and are only paid when it gets going again.
It's wild how people have no idea how our own government works.