It was announced last night around midnight mountain time on KSL radio right after the BYU/Colorado football game that President of the LDS Church, Russell M. Nelson had died. Now this. If you know a Mormon, show them some love today. You think you're a real Christian, show them that with your actions.
It's worth noting that the next in line to become President of the LDS Church is a man named Dallin H. Oaks. Oaks is extremely controversial in Utah because of his strong stance against the gay and trans movement. You may disagree with them on doctrine, but that man, and that group, are political allies.
Wasn't Dalin Oaks President of BYU at one time? I went to BYU one year 72-73 and it seems I remember his name for some reason. I left for a different college, BYU just wasn't for me as I wanted to have long hair, lol.
There was an update on X regarding that truck. Of course the media being lazy fu*** didn't bother to do a reverse image search. That picture was from something months ago.🙄
I just saw a live shot with similar looking truck on the scene. The only difference between the shot they showed earlier and the shot now was the wall.pf the church had partially collapsed. Truck looked more silver than white and the flags were singed.
So they are saying this guy and the boat guy are both Iraq war Vets. What are the chances two guys snap so close together and choose to kill other people instead of themselves?
I suppose its possible, but given everything else going on, it smells fishy to me. Like a string of Trans shooters, a pro-trans (if not planning on transitioning) assassination of Charlie Kirk, and then to balance it out 2 vets.
Press conference: 1 dead and up to 10 shot. Suspect was able to set church on fire before police deputies shot him. They believe there will be more victims in the church from fire. At least 100 people were at the service.
I just also saw drone footage of the burned out church with the same truck in the same spot. They are saying the shooter is a 40 year old Iraqi Veteran.
I'm willing to bet that a large number of PTSD suffering vets have been MK ultra'd. This won't be the last shooting or attack by a vet which has circumstances that make no sense, such as a Christian man shooting at Christian people. It all come back to the therapists (a lot of them are spooks) and the drugs.
My Deep State FF detector needle is pegged. Let's check what else is in the news they want to bury.
Trump: "Hey, we got medbeds that can cure about everything and we'll focus on wellness instead of pill pushing!"
Trump: "I'm going to declassify the Amelia Earhart files. Bigger than Epstein Island."
Deep State: "Quick, shoot & burn something. Anything!!"
We have allowed our government to severely hurt our ability to handle these matters, as intended by the framers of our Constitution. We were never meant to depend solely on government to keep us safe.
We have no militia's to speak of, thanks to our government villainizing them with their propaganda and false rhetoric. A gross violation of the prohibition of government infringement of our preexisting right. I feel we can use the military, or national guard, in a very specific and targeted manner to root out the illegal immigrant gangs or terrorist cells that have infiltrated or attacked our cities. Strick rules of engagement need to be in place to prevent American citizens being accidentally targeted by our troops.
I believe we should also issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal to have these cartels, and illegal immigrant gangs neutralized. We have plenty of groups, with seasoned combat veterans, that can be engaged to deal with these internal threats.
Last, but not least, we need our government to repeal all unconstitutional laws targeting our right to form militia's, our right to bear arms, and our right to self defense.
The solution, in my opinion? We need to seriously start considering forming local militia's in every community around America, just as intended by the founders of our Constitutional Republic. These would not be controlled by government, but could choose to assist government, if requested.
I am a firm believer in the fact that we all have a spiritual, moral, and personal responsibility to protect ourselves, our families, our property, and our communities.
Everyone should be armed and fully trained in the use of the weapons they choose to own and use. Everyone should have emergency plans in place for their households, and should be rehearsing these plans with their families to the point that if something were to happen, everyone knows their role, and what they are supposed to do in SHTF situation.
Taken to the next level, if you have good and dependable neighbors, is a neighborhood plan to coordinate defensive actions across larger areas of responsibility. The recent events in the Southeastern United States should make it very plain why this would be a wise course of action, not only for defense, but for coming to the aid of our communities in times like these. We need to relearn what it is to be neighbors and build communities of people who care about each other and protect & take care of each other. Neighbors that have each others backs.
When seconds count, the government (including police) are minutes away. In events like this last hurricane, government is either absent, or if they do show up, dictatorial in their response. When tyrannical government is involved, they will be even slower to respond or help. Just look at what has been happening across these United States of America over the last couple of decades. These attacks are only getting worse as time goes on.
I believe that we should form local community militias as well as form regional militia networks in each state. These militias would train together on a regular basis. They would support each other to protect their communities and citizens from criminals, gangs, government tyranny, invasions, etc.
With the threat of attacks within American communities, this is more important than ever. We are in more danger within our borders today than we have ever been at any other time in the history of our Republic. Not since the War of 1812, and the Revolutionary War, have we faced the threat of foreign attacks domestically, and within our cities, suburbs, and communities. By restoring our right to form militia's, we no longer have to rely on government. We can help ourselves, and our communities. Just as our Creator intended, as recognized by the framers of our Constitution.
“For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
(1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Eighth Annual Message, November 8, 1808
It's hard to win that battle in the best of circumstances. It's even harder when the V.A. is involved. I know from personal experience. And, with the V.A. sponsoring and conducting studies on how different meds, when taken together along with SSRIs, interact with a Vet's mind, it's a better than fair chance that both of these men were on multiple meds including at least one SSRI.
I find it extremely disturbing how many veterans I run into on X that are in their late 30's to 40's and who are stanchly Leftist. Very, very disturbing to me that these are the kind of men that our armed services have been producing for over two decades.
I for one, am tired of this horse shit, like right now. Someone needs to pay and don't think any pleading from POTUS is gonna change my mind. If they aren't going to handle it, then let the people do it. Signed, one pissed off dude!
The LDS believe in and follow Christ. What more of a target do you think these killers need? Just a few weeks ago, some lunatic shot up a Catholic church as well.
What's the point of looking for conspiracy theories?
You said that nobody has grief against Mormons, followed by "something is up".
I might have misread your intent, but the "something is up" makes it sound like the implication is that this is a false flag or something similar. I apologize if that was not your intent.
Occam's razor suggests that "in a time when Christians and Christian churches are being targeted, an LDS church is a likely target as well, regardless of peoples viewpoints of its members".
Yeah, I'm not insinuating anything about a false flag really, I'm saying in general, there isn't a defined or consistent sense of agitation coming from any leftist or anti-Christian movement over the course of history specifically targeting Mormons. Catholics and Protestants have been a target for a long time. This needs quite a bit of digging.
It was announced last night around midnight mountain time on KSL radio right after the BYU/Colorado football game that President of the LDS Church, Russell M. Nelson had died. Now this. If you know a Mormon, show them some love today. You think you're a real Christian, show them that with your actions.
It's worth noting that the next in line to become President of the LDS Church is a man named Dallin H. Oaks. Oaks is extremely controversial in Utah because of his strong stance against the gay and trans movement. You may disagree with them on doctrine, but that man, and that group, are political allies.
We ought to respect them as such.
Wasn't Dalin Oaks President of BYU at one time? I went to BYU one year 72-73 and it seems I remember his name for some reason. I left for a different college, BYU just wasn't for me as I wanted to have long hair, lol.
I'm not sure. But yeah, he's about the least favorite Mormon leader among liberals and troons in Salt Lake City.
Headlines tomorrow?
"HE WAS A CHARLIE KIRK MAGA TRUMP SUPPORTER GETTING REVENGE ON THE MORMON CHURCH BECAUSE CHARLIE DIED IN UTAH"
Let's hope that wasn't actually the case.
Where is Twigvy?
No mention of white shooter so therefore probably brown. Would wager an educated guess they fall squarely into leftism ideals.
These people are not compatible with America.
Theyre already trying to start a narrative on local news. Truck had 2 large American flags...
There was an update on X regarding that truck. Of course the media being lazy fu*** didn't bother to do a reverse image search. That picture was from something months ago.🙄
I just saw a live shot with similar looking truck on the scene. The only difference between the shot they showed earlier and the shot now was the wall.pf the church had partially collapsed. Truck looked more silver than white and the flags were singed.
I saw that video and I immediately thought FF. IED also taken from the truck.
New York Post says his name is Thomas Sanford, a veteran of the Iraq war.
So one of us who thought Mormons weren't Christian enough.
Father's name Lamont & Grandfather's name Fred, by any chance?
u/#popcornjones
Had to google that. Little before my time, but I appreciate the joke now :)
Ah man... you're missing out!
Watch a couple episodes so you can find out who Ester is ... but most importantly: You GOTTA hear that intro song... I mean, ya GOTTA!
It's janky and swanky and fits the story perfectly! You might even recognize it and be like, "oh! So THAT'S where that's from!"
u/#catdance
Like the NC shoreline restaurant shooter, also an Iraq War veteran.
Twiggy?
Been named as an Iraq veteran called Thomas Jacob Sandford https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15142239/active-shooter-mormon-church-day-saints-grand-blanc-michigan.html
Sleeper cell activated?
Definitely looks like it. That's a lot of false flags in a short period of time.
So they are saying this guy and the boat guy are both Iraq war Vets. What are the chances two guys snap so close together and choose to kill other people instead of themselves?
I suppose its possible, but given everything else going on, it smells fishy to me. Like a string of Trans shooters, a pro-trans (if not planning on transitioning) assassination of Charlie Kirk, and then to balance it out 2 vets.
Press conference: 1 dead and up to 10 shot. Suspect was able to set church on fire before police deputies shot him. They believe there will be more victims in the church from fire. At least 100 people were at the service.
Saw a pic of the truck of the shooter that ran into the church. There were two huge American flags in the bed of the truck. FF?
No, that image, according to X, was from something months ago.
I just also saw drone footage of the burned out church with the same truck in the same spot. They are saying the shooter is a 40 year old Iraqi Veteran.
I'm willing to bet that a large number of PTSD suffering vets have been MK ultra'd. This won't be the last shooting or attack by a vet which has circumstances that make no sense, such as a Christian man shooting at Christian people. It all come back to the therapists (a lot of them are spooks) and the drugs.
Why run a car through the front doors when the church is in session and the front doors are unlocked and open?
Looks like it was straight through a wall from the pictures.
Maybe they started locking the doors at that particular church. The kinds of locks you could still get out but not in
At least WH’s are on their way to get the truth about the shooter before the MSM runs with deranged MAGA…
My Deep State FF detector needle is pegged. Let's check what else is in the news they want to bury. Trump: "Hey, we got medbeds that can cure about everything and we'll focus on wellness instead of pill pushing!" Trump: "I'm going to declassify the Amelia Earhart files. Bigger than Epstein Island." Deep State: "Quick, shoot & burn something. Anything!!"
Thomas Sanford, Iraq war veteran?
Yep. The guy that shot up the NC restaurant and killed 3 last night was also an Iraq War veteran: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article312297067.html
Did Soros fund this event too?
They mention the suspect being 40 years old but they don't mention a name.
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1972341215036383536
We have allowed our government to severely hurt our ability to handle these matters, as intended by the framers of our Constitution. We were never meant to depend solely on government to keep us safe.
We have no militia's to speak of, thanks to our government villainizing them with their propaganda and false rhetoric. A gross violation of the prohibition of government infringement of our preexisting right. I feel we can use the military, or national guard, in a very specific and targeted manner to root out the illegal immigrant gangs or terrorist cells that have infiltrated or attacked our cities. Strick rules of engagement need to be in place to prevent American citizens being accidentally targeted by our troops.
I believe we should also issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal to have these cartels, and illegal immigrant gangs neutralized. We have plenty of groups, with seasoned combat veterans, that can be engaged to deal with these internal threats.
Last, but not least, we need our government to repeal all unconstitutional laws targeting our right to form militia's, our right to bear arms, and our right to self defense.
The solution, in my opinion? We need to seriously start considering forming local militia's in every community around America, just as intended by the founders of our Constitutional Republic. These would not be controlled by government, but could choose to assist government, if requested.
I am a firm believer in the fact that we all have a spiritual, moral, and personal responsibility to protect ourselves, our families, our property, and our communities.
Everyone should be armed and fully trained in the use of the weapons they choose to own and use. Everyone should have emergency plans in place for their households, and should be rehearsing these plans with their families to the point that if something were to happen, everyone knows their role, and what they are supposed to do in SHTF situation.
Taken to the next level, if you have good and dependable neighbors, is a neighborhood plan to coordinate defensive actions across larger areas of responsibility. The recent events in the Southeastern United States should make it very plain why this would be a wise course of action, not only for defense, but for coming to the aid of our communities in times like these. We need to relearn what it is to be neighbors and build communities of people who care about each other and protect & take care of each other. Neighbors that have each others backs.
When seconds count, the government (including police) are minutes away. In events like this last hurricane, government is either absent, or if they do show up, dictatorial in their response. When tyrannical government is involved, they will be even slower to respond or help. Just look at what has been happening across these United States of America over the last couple of decades. These attacks are only getting worse as time goes on.
I believe that we should form local community militias as well as form regional militia networks in each state. These militias would train together on a regular basis. They would support each other to protect their communities and citizens from criminals, gangs, government tyranny, invasions, etc.
With the threat of attacks within American communities, this is more important than ever. We are in more danger within our borders today than we have ever been at any other time in the history of our Republic. Not since the War of 1812, and the Revolutionary War, have we faced the threat of foreign attacks domestically, and within our cities, suburbs, and communities. By restoring our right to form militia's, we no longer have to rely on government. We can help ourselves, and our communities. Just as our Creator intended, as recognized by the framers of our Constitution.
“For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Eighth Annual Message, November 8, 1808
these poor men are losing the battle of mental illness. and mental illness is 1000% work of the devil. pray.
It's hard to win that battle in the best of circumstances. It's even harder when the V.A. is involved. I know from personal experience. And, with the V.A. sponsoring and conducting studies on how different meds, when taken together along with SSRIs, interact with a Vet's mind, it's a better than fair chance that both of these men were on multiple meds including at least one SSRI.
yes and anti-psychotics are scary drugs as well
they are also life savers
Their President Russel M. Nelson just passed away yesterday at the age of 101.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/lds-church-president-russell-m-nelson-dies-at-age-101
Is this a coincidence?
What I find especially disturbing is that the shooter was a 40 year old Iraq War veteran: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15142239/active-shooter-mormon-church-day-saints-grand-blanc-michigan.html
I find it extremely disturbing how many veterans I run into on X that are in their late 30's to 40's and who are stanchly Leftist. Very, very disturbing to me that these are the kind of men that our armed services have been producing for over two decades.
a picture on redit shows the driver's truck had an American flag and Iraq war license plate....
Sorry what about that makes you go hmmmm exactly?
I for one, am tired of this horse shit, like right now. Someone needs to pay and don't think any pleading from POTUS is gonna change my mind. If they aren't going to handle it, then let the people do it. Signed, one pissed off dude!
I wonder if this will prompt the church to have at least one concealed carry person in each church at all the other locations.
I really wanna tie this to the UTAH HAWKey Club (HAWK TUAH) -- now known as the MAMMOTHS -- but I gotta think on it a bit.
Nobody has grief against Mormons.
Something is up.
The LDS believe in and follow Christ. What more of a target do you think these killers need? Just a few weeks ago, some lunatic shot up a Catholic church as well.
What's the point of looking for conspiracy theories?
I am highly confused by your reply
You said that nobody has grief against Mormons, followed by "something is up".
I might have misread your intent, but the "something is up" makes it sound like the implication is that this is a false flag or something similar. I apologize if that was not your intent.
Occam's razor suggests that "in a time when Christians and Christian churches are being targeted, an LDS church is a likely target as well, regardless of peoples viewpoints of its members".
Yeah, I'm not insinuating anything about a false flag really, I'm saying in general, there isn't a defined or consistent sense of agitation coming from any leftist or anti-Christian movement over the course of history specifically targeting Mormons. Catholics and Protestants have been a target for a long time. This needs quite a bit of digging.
South Park
Churches need to keep security.
mine started to about a month and a half ago. I feel afraid to go myself which is exactly what the enemy wants
Grand Blanc?
AKA
great white?
What's the signal related to the most deadly shark in the sea?
What message are they trying to send?
Where are you getting this from? What a crass response.
Too soon.