It feels like most policies are aimed in helping Boomers, CEOs, Companies, Wall Street, Share Holders.
How are Gen Z going to have families if: Priced out of housing They cant afford food They cant buy cars Jobs don't pay enough to live Ai is taking their jobs
Are Gen Z just meant to stand by until Boomers are dead and gone? How can Trump say he cares about the military (Gen Z accounting for roughly 40% of the total active-duty enlisted force) when he seems to not give a shit about their issues?
Why can't the US Government help out the future generations? Why can't you spend money on helping with Gen Z school loans?, Gen Z first time home buyers, Gen Z training/trade/incentives for companies to hiring Gen Z over H-1B/ Force Companies to train Americans for American jobs rather than training overseas for them to be hiring to work in America (T-moblie and other Tech Companies)? Why doesnt the Government have Programs in high Schools like Germany to have kids set up to work for companies? There are so many things the Government could do for Gen Z but they do nothing. You say you want Gen Z to have kids and families but what are you doing to aid in that? What happened to "America First"? It looks like "Boomers and Trumps Family First" Wake up Trump! Open your eyes to the Future of the Country you say you fight for!
I am profoundly unsympathetic to the question. The real question is: "What is Gen Z doing to help itself?"
My father went into the Navy as a teenager to fight World War Ii. He got out, married, had a son (me) and was pulled back in during the Korean War. He got out, had another son, became a shipping clerk at the railroad, went to night school at the local college to get a degree in Economics, moved on to become a fireman (not what you think) at a distant refinery, had another son, got certified as an accountant, worked for the city water department, went on to partner in a private practice. The practice folded, it was post-1964 and he had gotten politically crosswise with the Democrat water department, so he worked for a fishing company, with summer operations in Alaska, and was fired because he was witness to financial corruption. That was the Boeing Depression of 1970 and jobs were scarce, so he took a laboring job as a sexton at a cemetery, where he worked until suffering a heart attack, which invalided him from further work. Meanwhile, his sons had made it into college through scholarships and summer work. He was studying on his own to be a surveyor. And then he passed away.
Nobody helped him. Nothing was cheap. Sacrifice was the order of the day. Life was humble. But he engendered a family that read books, learned well, and sought honest work. His proudest moment was to attend his 2nd son's commissioning as an officer in the Navy.
So, I'm not impressed by the moans and groans of Gen Z. Or the "What have you done for me, lately?" mentality. Go where the work is and life is affordable. Apply yourself in body and mind. Keep a sharp eye open for opportunity. Trump is doing more for the future of this country than a whole lifetime of past presidents, so berating him for anything is a monstrous ingratitude.
This 👆👆👆👆👆.
Precisely this. In fact the entire post exhibits why Gen Z is in the situation they are so concerned about described by OP. The government isnt here to make your life better and provide. That is YOUR responsibility.
Sounds like my Dad.
Right on Killer!!!
I hope that somehow, your pops reads what you wrote- thats the highest complement a kid can pay a parent- makes me cherish the sacrifices of my dad a bit more. That generation taught us to fight- that opportunity was there, but we had to seize it, nobody was coming along to help us... Cheers to the dads that broke their backs so we could do better
Getting rid of that transfaggot shit and DEI wipll help gen z more than you know. He's makingvthe country great again for you, right before your eyes
Getting off the video games would be a good start.....
They can't afford games like we used to, and games today suck balls and aren't worth playing, so I don't think that's the issue
Umm....Stat's say differently:
https://icon-era.com/statistics/video-game-statistics/
Gen-Z is right in the heart of the focus. Expect things to accelerate from here on out. A lot of different initiatives are all happening at the same time. So much of which is aimed at the American dream for the middle class Americans.
Gen Z will experience a truly free country again with all kinds of opportunities. But you’ll have to work for them rather than let the government ‘help’ you. Believe me, I would love to be 25 again and start my career in the restored republic that is coming.
Stay calm. It's all about future generations. That's why we fight.
Things have to be done in the right order to win.
We need to win before we mop up the battlefield.
Also Gen Z needs to learn how to fight for what they need, cause you will have to keep it when we are gone.....
...I am thankful that I am an old dog...
Me too, 59 ain’t bad. I can read, write in cursive (and read it) much better than most young people graduating high school. I don’t think my generation and older would fall apart if cell phones and the internet went away.
I often wonder how I managed before 2001 when I got my first iPhone...
Well back then you could actually buy most things you need locally. I hate shopping online but I can’t find clean non toxic products locally. Guess that was the plan, keep us home and online.
We could wait it out and die....
But that wouldn't be right. We have the time and money to fight..... and that's the path I choose.
Me too.
By bringing back manufacturing. Here ya go: https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASswXDyUO/promethean-overviews--beyond-the/c/
Whiny
With a falsely entitled mentality.
No fact.
I raised two kids and only made $600.00 a month net.
Sure rent was about $400 to $500 a month but the pay scale was exactly what you are experiencing.
You work then you work some more.
You don't have all the trendy items like cell phones and Starbucks
I made my own baby food.
I’ve got my own kids, nephews, nieces, friends children..all around the same age group. All struggling. Over half can’t afford to leave the house yet. A crappy apartment nearing $2000 a month? A decent car payment $400-$600 a month. Not counting everything else. One was making around 40k a year to start their job. Literally is stressed out because they can’t even afford to fix anything if something goes down. They don’t do anything but work and eat noodles, and pray for everything to keep working. Moms and Dads are really have to help when something happens. Fridge goes down, they don’t have the savings yet. Can’t get ahead. New tires..my oldest son cleaned out his account buying some new tires. Some are saying to fight? Fight what? They voted. Can’t vote harder. They are aware. They are hard workers. Just can’t afford anything. One out of about 10 has gotten married and it’s helped. My oldest. But it didn’t make it easier. Just more options. They need another vehicle. More maintenance. More problems. They would like more than a one bedroom apartment. And currently can’t afford it. It’s crazy. Honestly I don’t know what they are suppose to do. Hang in there I guess. I hate it for them.
My parents came over from Italy.
They lived through the depression.
I bet every whiny Gen Z has a cell phone and drink Starbucks.
I don't want to hear this crap.
Ok? I had grandparents that came over Czechoslovakia. Lived through the depression….and what’s that got to do with today? Yea it’s not hard to get a “free” cell phone. Monthly payment isn’t that expensive. And to your surprise, young people actually know how to make coffee. Shocking I know. Sounds like you have zero knowledge of young folks today. Most are vastly different from the ones in Hollywood. Or on YouTube running from police. Maybe I’m biased because all I know are southern youth. Hard working. They just want a piece of that American dream. You know…the one you have to be asleep to actually believe. Right?
Figure it out.
If it made sense I would. What’s next, we go back to the 19th century? Maybe the 18th? Heck, mine as well go back to BC. Times were tough. Your grandparents wouldn’t have a clue. See how this goes? Isn’t it obvious. Hear this way to often nowadays. Next will be, my ancestors picked cotton! We’re in the now. Today. Let’s try stay on what’s happening now shall we?
Keep whining.
And again, you’re going down another lane. On this matter I agree with you 100%. But those realities aren’t here yet. Taxes suck. We’re like quadruple dipped nowadays, if not more. I’m talking about what’s now, today. What people are trying to do in this current situation we’re in. My Dad, who is 76 yrs old, was making $7 an hour up north in a factory, in the 60’s. His first, brand new car was less than $3000. It wasn’t a cheap run around. It’s a 340 Plymouth Duster. Something equivalent to a muscle car nowadays. $7 an hour, $3000 car. Nowadays you might make $14 a hour and that same car is over $100,000. He bought a house a few yrs later. It was two years old. A 2400sqft home sitting on a few acres. Nice. For $24,000. That home now, with land, would cost $350,000-$400,000 or more. Making $14-$20 an hour. How can you not see the difference. This isn’t your grannies timeframe.They could work hard and afford a life. That’s untouchable nowadays without going into the modern day slavery know as debt, as you know. Times are hard for young people now. And the fact you’re having trouble seeing that….thats kind of amazing. Fine, you hate young people. I get it. But don’t be naive.
When did I say I hated young people?
They need to understand things aren't handed to them the way I had to understand it.
You want to stimulate the economy and help people’s quality of life?
Abolish income tax.
Abolish property tax.
You want to enslave people in open air prisons?
Increase taxes and launder the money to your corrupt friends.
Lol give me a break, bro.
Gen X was called the slacker generation. Yet it will probably be the generation that will end up saving us from ourselves.
What Gen Z is waking up to is that many skilled trade jobs pay more than 4 year college degrees without having to go in debt with $100,000 in student loans.
Most of Gen X was not coddled, we fixed our own things and moved out of the house by age 18 and into an apartment with 2 or 3 friends who sometimes couldn't help with rent or utilities.
There were no guarantees that what food you left in the fridge would still be there when you returned back to the apartment. There were even times when the apartment would turn into the movie Animal House.
Sure we may have had our electricity shut off a few times but we still partied and made it through. Now we all have families of our own but still wonder how we made it through.
Gen X are the old people now. Gen Z has to find their our own way just as generations before have. With the Manufacturing jobs returning back to our Country, not all will be AI and robotic, it only a matter of time before it will be jobs galore. The hard part is being patient, the rest will be up to Gen Z.
Most of your financial problems/burdens are from your state and local government. Taxes, utilities, licensing, insurance,…..on and on. You have local, county, and state senate and house representatives. What do they say? Take a civics class.
I'm fully prepared to be shat upon and dog piled for this, but with few exceptions everyone in this thread is a dumbass that needs to stop sniffing their own farts.
I swear sometimes everyone on this site MUST be a dumbass boomer or something. They describe situations and circumstances that simply don't exist in modern day and insist that younger generations replicate them to "help themselves". How're you supposed to do ANYTHING any of the people in this thread insist upon when literally EVERYTHING is against you.
For example, everything described by the top comment in this thread (by u/killerspacerobot) was ONLY possible because of the GI bill, early life starts from the military (which was MUCH better comparatively back in that era compared to modern day and its not like literally everyone can join the military anyway), AND the greatest economy in the modern era in the post WW II boom era.
Compare that to today. Lets look at the job market alone as an isolated factor since pretty much every other problem STEMS from the horrid job market.
So lets start shall we? Literally a fifth to a third of all jobs postings you see online DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST: https://vidcruiter.com/resources/fake-and-ghost-jobs/
That's right, 20-30% of all job postings are scams meant to get your information and don't actually exist. Didn't have to deal with that did you?
Second point, in terms of new jobs ACTUALLY produced in recent years, they OVERWHELMING go to women: https://www.npr.org/2026/04/10/nx-s1-5773327/women-men-jobs-health-care-manufacturing
That's right, women, in any given year as of late, make up 80-95%+ of ALL new jobs created.
Thirdly, many older generations are strangling the economy by refusing to retire: https://fortune.com/2026/05/25/boomers-generational-inequality-housing-market-no-starter-homes/
On that last point I WILL say I don't entirely blame OLDER workers, a lot of them can't help it since they CAN'T AFFORD to retire. But its still a fact that there're consequences for younger generations from that. They don't retire, gen X and other "medium age" generations don't get to move up to replace them, and therefore, there's no space or entry level jobs for Gen Z to "step up and fill". Companies don't just hire for the sake of hiring. They hire because there's a position to be filled.
I could go on and on and make an entire novel about how today's environment is NOTHING like you people keep describing, so its comparing apples to oranges, but I think I've made my point. And keep in mind I haven't even brought in the H1B visa and illegal immigrant problem.
Everyone says "be a truck driver" or "Go learn a trade". Alright, fine. How does anyone compete against the illegals willing to work under the table for pennies on the dollar or some punjabi who chain migrated and was handed a license and likewise will ALSO work for scraps?
You can't.
This has admittedly gotten BETTER since Trump got back in office, but its nowhere near good enough to fix things to make that an entirely viable route yet.
So please, do tell everyone under the age of 35 what the hell they're supposed to do exactly? The entire deck is stacked against you, its near impossible to get your foot in through the door anywhere that isn't some dead end minimum wage job at an amazon warehouse or fast food joint, neither of which will pay you enough for ANYTHING needed to start a "normal life", no one can begin to afford a house, start a family, etc. etc.
And when anyone brings UP these points, all you older people do is bitch and gripe about how "X generation did it" while giving anecdotes about circumstances that LITERALLY DO NOT EXIST ANYMORE.
Don't get me wrong, I'm confident this WILL change eventually, it HAS to or this is all for naught. But being an arrogant ass every time someone brings up how shit things are today to the point of being nearly insurmountable doesn't do anything by make younger generations HATE older generations more. I know people in their 20s that literally hate boomers to the point of wishing death to the entire generation because of much they've screwed up the economy for everyone else. I don't CONDONE that obviously, but its easy to see why the sentiment is there.
And this isn't even getting into some of the other dumbass comments in this thread talking about stupid shit like "get off the video games" or just calling young people whiny for pointing out reality, or compare today to the depression like its somehow comparable. Newsflash, during the depression you could STILL make money from illegal, but socially acceptable, methods like moonshining, and the cost of living was INFINITELY lower than today. Even in the worst economic crash in human history, there was STILL SOME opportunity. We don't even have THAT today since the modern equivalent would be becoming a drug dealer and I doubt many people are gonna advocate for that. You ALSO didn't have to compete with millions of indians, arabs, illegals, and sihks for EVERY REAL JOB. Back then, it was ACTUALLY merit based. If you proved yourself a good worker there was a legitimate chance someone WOULD hire you for SOMETHING. Nowadays its all about chain migration, visa hopping, and working under the table.
AND DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON TAXES. The tax burden in earlier generations was INFINITELY LOWER than todays taxes and not a single person here will deny or argue that since every one of you bitch about that just as much as everyone else, but VERY CONVENIENTLY forget about how much lower it used to be when comparing circumstances today for Gen Z and younger with the circumstances of older generations.
NOT TO MENTION INFLATION, where the purchasing power of the dollar has falling more than 95% since 1900. So while wages haven't really grown since the late 80s-early 90s, inflation just kept chugging along.
Here's a hand little tool for everyone: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Take a 40K income in 1990, wanna know how much that adjusts to in 2026? $102,562.51, a 156.4% increase. What's the median individual (not household) income in the US? $45,140 as of the last tracking from the central bank of st louis (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N)
Meaning since 1990, the median income has went up about 5K, while the cost of living has more than doubled. But oh everyone is supposed to just "magically" make things work by working at McDonalds or an Amazon warehouse or something right? We're supposed to just ignore that People working a $40K job in the 90s were basically the equivalent of someone making six figures today right? And last I checked, there's no such thing as an entry level six figure job for any non doctor/lawyer profession.
I swear I love you guys on here like a second family most of the time, I've prayed for people and BEEN prayed for by people on here more than IRL church people I know and I appreciate that more than most will ever know, and I'm sure the feeling is mutual for most, but whenever ANYTHING involving anyone under the age of 35 comes up, its like the retard switch flips in most people's head and they become the most illogical dumbasses I've ever seen
Your problem is that you have not convinced an employer to pay you what you think you are worth. If he did, your bitch post would likely be a lot shorter, because you'd have yours. At present however, it appears that no one wants to pay you that rate or salary, because you have failed to sell them on the idea that you are actually worth that much to pay for whatever it is you do.
You thrash about whining on this board and that defeatist spirit probably percolates throughout every facet of your life. Employers and possible employers can read it on your face.
You have have time to synthesize a bitch post, but you have likely never taken the time to do a hard self-assessment to determine what you have to offer an employer that will pay you the money you want to make. You haven't landed a niche career that requires a unique skills set.
If you think what you do is so valuable, you need to sell others on the idea that you are worth what you think you are worth.
I identified my skills sets early on, honed them throughout a career, planned a career strategy and built professional relationships, successfully delivered on high value projects and eventually went into business for myself doing what I had done for others as a simple employee.
I have owned my own scientific and legal advisory firm for > 30 years. There are few others out there who do what I do as well as I do it. I have a profitable niche that allows me to choose my clients, even as my services are sought for their high value projects.
If you are truly worth more than you are being paid its up to you to convince your chosen market and sell an employer or client on the notion that you are actually worth paying more, because what you do, you do better than anyone else does - and you can readily prove it, and have others who can speak glowingly on the quality of work you do.
The high quality of your skills sets must stand out unquestionably. You need to sell people personally on your candidacy, by making personal contact, through telephone - sometimes cold calls - and handwritten communication to hiring managers not electronically through HR filtering drones on mindless job sites. Without that you'll just continue to be competing with the other 1000 + undifferentiated pedestrian talents for the same phony Linked-in postings.
Most people who complain about their station in life do so because they are too lazy to do what it takes to build the career and land opportunities which are literally everywhere, and to put together their personal marketing strategy to make themselves successful. They are too busy leaning on the point'n'click approach to the job search and to do their thinking and "research" for them, which is a failed strategy.
What you are doing at present isn't working. It is up to you to figure out why -- not just sit around on a board like this mourning your perceived misfortune, and looking for someone else to blame for choices you have made that find you where you are today.
Typical boomer response. Say a whole lot of nothing, while ignoring the problem. You kind of prove my point too, since apparently you're in a lawyer adjacent field from your OWN admission of owning a scientific and legal advisory firm for more than thirty years and I SPECIFICALLY said lawyers and doctors are some of the only exceptions to what I'm saying, but even then that's not ALWAYS true.
Also you do a WHOLE LOT of assuming. None of yours or anyone else's business what I personally do, but I'm an outlier since I'm more or less self employed because I went through college and then graduated during covid where NOBODY WOULD HIRE ANYONE for years afterward FOR ANYTHING. And God ended up providing me with a path that led me that way.
But again, I'm an outlier, of my graduating class, I can count on one hand the number of people that actually found decent jobs. I know people that went through veterinary and engineering school, that TO THIS DAY, cannot find a relevant job for their degrees and have no choice but to work at Amazon warehouses. One of them moved across the country for a job, was lead on for a month with "multi round interviews" and then was passed up for an Indian and had to move back where we all grew up. So you can't even say its just the area we all live in, because even when people try and move to where the jobs supposedly are, they STILL can't get their foot in the door.
Which again, disproves all of your dumbass assumptions about people being just "lazy" since you can't get through vet school or engineering school while being lazy
So please, do shut the hell up with all of your assumptions. You didn't address a SINGLE problem I pointed out about the reality of today. THIS is why people hate older generations with a burning passion. LITERALLY its like a parody. I take time out of my day to point out all of the real problems, give statistical evidence and proof of my claims, links to said proof, and then YOU come along and just write a giant response claiming me and everyone my age are just lazy while ignoring EVERY SINGLE POINT I MADE.
It's so pathetic how you people are capable of looking at the depths of things and coming up with these autistic spiderweb charts for things like Q proofs that end up ACTUALLY being true and making sense, that require deep critical thinking, but when it comes to this ONE specific topic, anything involving people under the age of 35, its like all logic and reason go out the window for most people on this site.
I just don't understand it and can't fathom it. The cognitive dissonance required is almost to the same level of the mental gymnastics liberals have to justify their viewpoints. Like is it THIS hard to believe that economic conditions have changed in such a way that things are harder and worse in 30+ years? Like, seriously, people on this board and elsewhere will bitch about blackrock being evil for creating a class of slaves/serfs that literally can't afford to buy a house with DEI and ESG policies while buying up all the single family homes, and in the SAME EXACT BREATH, call everyone under the age of 35 lazy, stupid, unmotivated, etc. and blame them for their own circumstances. And then when confronted on it, they just do EXACTLY what you just did to me, and ignore EVERY SINGLE POINT anyone makes in favor of the lazy card, while PROVING MY POINTS, about how you describe circumstances and a reality that no longer exists and insist everyone just somehow make it work anyway?
I can't fathom this level of cognitive dissonance, like it ACTUALLY dumbfounds me we have people like this on our side. For whatever reason, this specific topic lowers people on our side to the same level as the typical liberal so they can self justify their position while ignoring any facts on the matter at hand.
Your problem is you are not worth what you think you're worth or have simply failed to convince your market that you are the best at what you do and worth what you will charge them for what ever service it is that you provide.
"None of yours or anyone else's business what I personally do,"
Touchy, touchy ...
I don't need to know what you do to read this and know you can't sell me or anyone else convincingly that you are what you think you are worth. Most folks who are confident and proud of what they do happily tell people what they do, and like Trump, don't shy away from making it known that they are the best at what they do. You sound like you are ashamed of what you do or of what you have done or failed to become.
It's a simple fact of life: an employer employs you for one of two reasons: either you make them a boatload of money or you save them a boatload of money. That's it. Short of that your skills sets are worth paying minimum wage at best.
" I know people that went through veterinary and engineering school, that TO THIS DAY, cannot find a relevant job for their degrees and have no choice but to work at Amazon warehouses."
Like you they have the chance to sell their markets on their skills sets, but at this point they have failed to do so - take the risk to start your own business and perform better in it than anyone else in their fields. They have a piece of paper slapped up on the wall. Nice. What have you done for me lately? Your friends have developed no personal marketing plan to sell people on the value of what that piece of paper means to them and why it should mean anything to anyone who would pay them money to do anything. If they've defaulted to Amazon or slinging Chipotle it is not the market that failed them. They have failed to sell themselves, and to be creative in their selling skills enough to stand out positively and above anyone else.
"Which again, disproves all of your dumbass assumptions about people being just "lazy" since you can't get through vet school or engineering school while being lazy."
You and your friends are all too lazy to develop a personal marketing plan for yourselves that will make you the kind of money you want to earn. It takes work. You just won't do it but choose instead to continue to try to compete against incompetent jeets. You want to make more money than a jeet? Prove your worth. Develop your successful marketing plan and encounter trial and error and with it experience and quit complaining.
You mistakenly think "boomers" had everything handed to them on a silver platter. Every generation from the Jamestown and the Pilgrims who literally started with nothing in a hostile persecuted environment that literally cost many their lives - never mind livelihoods to the Revolutionary War generation who personally pledged lives treasure a sacred honor to establish this nation now populated by so many ungrateful whiners -- or the Civil War generation that spilled the blood of 400,000 countrymen just to hold the Union together -- or the depression generations of the 1890's and 1930's, or the World War generations to the generations or technological advancements made by boomers, genX, millennials, and now today's gen-Z --- all have or had their respective challenges to overcome in their times. Those crying tears in their beer today too often have lost perspective of the challenges faced by other generations - and have subsequently failed to learn from them what it takes to succeed in any circumstance. And in that way you are far too proud to listen to the advice and wisdom of those who did successfully make it.
No one cares what you think you know if you are too lazy to make the effort to sell the market on your presumed genius. Whenever I ever looked at a person to hire I asked two questions: 1. Can he do the job? 2. Will he do the job? The first answers whether he is the best at what he does that would make me want to pay him what he thinks he's worth. The second - in light of all the demonstrated competencies is - is he a go getter enough to do the best job he can do, and apply those skills productively for my betterment, or for all his genius is he just a lazy shit?
It is timeless truth to say: either you perform or you don't, and that determines whether you are worth paying or not.
At present you are too busy whining to be convincing.
I'm done arguing with someone who wants to live in fantasy world and refuses to accept reality while openly denying factual evidence and refusing to actually refute a single argument I've presented. You've literally not debunked a single point I made and do nothing but default to calling me, everyone I know, and everyone in my entire generation lazy while knowing NOTHING about any of us.
This is like arguing with a leftist, you're incapable of making an actual argument. All you say is "prove your worth, market yourself, you're lazy". Well smart one, as I pointed out its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to prove yourself OR your worth, when there are NO ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS. As I ALREADY pointed out, nearly a third of all jobs are fake, and of what IS real 90%+ of NEW jobs go to women, while older generations aren't retiring because they can't afford to, meaning there's no CHANCE to prove yourself.
I just, really cannot fathom being this stupid and so far up your own ass with self righteousness, that you absolutely refuse to accept factual evidence and reality just so you can shit on an entire generation from your golden throne.
I PERSONALLY don't even blame boomers, since they just lived how was normal in their time. You can't blame people for just doing what was normal 60 years ago. But what DOES make me hate older people is this absolute refusal to admit that times have changed and INSIST in the most condescending, arrogant manner that everyone else on the planet is WRONG and only THEY are right, and the job market hasn't changed in decades when you PHYSICALLY SEE that's a lie. I'm just speechless as the retardation at work with this entire world view.
You're nothing more than an arrogant ass who's incapable of seeing any other point of view than your own, and people like you are the reason "young people" hate everyone older than 55 at this point. I wish no ill will, but this is literally why young people hate every older generation at this point.
This isn't even a "I'm right vs you're wrong" type of situation, since the OBVIOUS SOLUTION is lower taxes, lower or no immigration, and reshoring manufacturing and supply chains. Something EVERYONE agrees upon, but for reasons I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT FATHOM, you older people have this absurd cognitive dissonance where you'll say that in one breath and in the next breath INSIST TO THE DEATH, that young people are lazy and every problem in their life is self inflicted.
I'm not saying worthless stoner dumbasses that actually ARE self inflicted losers aren't a thing, they obviously are, but I just can't understand why you people REFUSE with your entire being to acknowledge that most of the problems are systemic and made to work against you BECAUSE the cabal want's a class of permanently renting slaves/serfs with zero upwards mobility.
It's freaking baffling how everyone can acknowledge all of this, but MAGICALLY when its everyone under 35 its EVERYTHING is OUR fault, and not the cabal, the government, the corrupt greedy CEOs and investment funds, etc. Everyone else, its the cabal and company, but magically if you're under 35 its your own fault and no one else's.
You people make no sense, have no argument, and your LITERAL ONLY comeback is "market yourself, you're lazy" while REFUSING to acknowledge a single factual, and sourced argument I and everyone else on my side have made. Its literally like arguing with a liberal on twitter. You have no argument, but you're SO FREAKING CONFIDENT in your own world view, that you ignore any and all proof to the contrary and insist its not you that's wrong, its everyone else on the planet that's wrong. It's just freaking mind boggling to me
"while knowing NOTHING about any of us."
What I do know you are a failure of your own making, who can't sell himself, his accomplishments, and skill sets to anyone convincingly to save his soul, complaining about his inability to get an entry level job.
"its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to prove yourself OR your worth, when there are NO ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS. :
Ever tried the military? It's competitive because Hegseth only wants the best. Are you the best? If you are, humble yourself and enlist like both of my boys did. If you are an Eagle Scout like they both are/were, maybe you'll get in as a lance corporal and not just a PFC. Give it try or are you too proud and out of shape? That's all on you.
My wife of 41 years and I have 4 children aged 32, 34, 36, and 38. Millennials. All college educated - three with masters degrees in fact, making their way building their families and careers. These are difficult times for some, but we all make choices. Some make better choices than others. My kids have made their choices and are prospering in this present environment in light of those choices in ways that it appears that you can't - or more likely won't because you are simply too lazy to prepare your personal marketing plan to sell yourself.
"... people like you are the reason "young people" hate everyone older than 55 at this point. I wish no ill will, but this is literally why young people hate every older generation at this point."
That's not true. Young people don't hate me - if any one regardless of age hates me, that's their problem and I don't really care. Their hate destroys them, not me. You need to find new friends and acquaintances who aren't personal failures and don't wreak with such angst and envy. Sadly, it appears it has rubbed off on you. For starters, try going to a Christ-centered church sometime and meet up with more positive people than you seem to surround yourself with at present. Bitterness is consuming you, and no one wants to hire pathologically bitter people. Bitterness exudes from the heart and bleeds outwardly in ways that pretending can't hide.
"... that young people are lazy and every problem in their life is self inflicted... but MAGICALLY when its everyone under 35 its EVERYTHING is OUR fault...."
I don't say that of all young people, least of all my own kids aged 32-38 who put the lie to most of your complaints about not having opportunities to succeed in the present economy. Maybe they don't just sit around scrolling reels all day and playing video games like so many of your fellow travelers do. Like I said, we all make choices. Squander not time for time's the stuff life's made of (B. Franklin). If you are just wasting time not developing your own creative personal marketing pitch that makes you stand out positively from others, you just wasting your life away complaining without solving your basic employability problems. You are your own worst enemy.
"... your LITERAL ONLY comeback is "market yourself, you're lazy" while REFUSING to acknowledge a single factual, and sourced argument I and everyone else on my side have made."
Your choices so far have you only spinning your wheels in an economy with so many opportunities.
I'll ask you point blank -- besides complaining, what skills set do you possess that allows you to do what it is that you do better than anyone else can do it? Next ask yourself why you at this moment are not doing everything creatively possible to identify and pursue your customer without constantly looking over your shoulder at smelly jeets (unless you are one yourself, and at that rate, the bar will just have to be set higher)?
"... but you're SO FREAKING CONFIDENT in your own world view,..."
I have every reason to be confident. I am blessed and I am thankful for that (you should try giving thanks yourself - it will rid you of your bitterness). After working full time paying for night school living on my own, I graduated college into the workforce in the middle of a deep recession, way higher unemployment than now, and a 15% prime rate. I moved 400 miles away to the Northeast and the best I could land at the time were contract temp lab jobs for 2 years - all while holding 2 BS degrees - one in Biology and Chemistry. Over the next 12 years working F/T in the pharma industry first in R&D, then Quality Control, and then regulatory affairs, I married, earned an MS in Biochemistry and an MBA (night school), and my wife and I had 4 kids. Opened my consulting business 31 years ago based solely on the quality of my personal reputation and business relationships I had made, and the quality and timeliness of my personal deliverables.
My wife had a career in the food industry beginning at the lab bench (where I met her) eventually holding the title, Director of R&D - before she became my Sec'y Treasurer where she has been the last ~26 years working along side me. We accumulated no debt beyond a 30 year mortgage we paid off in 15. We inherited nothing from our parents except the obligation to take them in when ailing and effectively insolvent.
Today she and I are multimillionaires, because we made good choices, planned effectively, made the best of adversities and set backs, invested wisely, and learned how to sell what we did well and effectively to a market willing to pay our rates.
" third of all jobs are fake, and of what IS real 90%+ of NEW jobs go to women, ...."
Try imagining a job description in your field that only you can do, because you do it better than anyone else can. You are the product and you need to learn how to sell yourself to your chosen industry. Advertised jobs are not where the real opportunities are. Try writing your own job description for a job that needs to be created for which your industry has an unmet need, and then go out and sell your skills set as the solution. That is what will open doors, get you past the HR drones, their phony job postings and those alleged career squashing "women" you think are holding you back. Man up.
while older generations aren't retiring because they can't afford to,...."
You resent people my age who are still working, but I do so by choice, not because I have to, but because its fun. When you like what you do and you do it well, it isn't "work" - remember few other people do what I do as well as I do it, so for all your whining I am not the one holding you back. You are.
Lose the jealousy and resentment and be thankful for the fact that you live in the US with more avenues for opportunities to explore than you can find anywhere else. Think outside the box and hone and polish your new personal sales pitch.
Failure breeds failure if you don't have the capacity to learn from your mistakes. Your present plan for employment is clearly not working for you, because your resentment and compulsion to blame someone for your own inertia stands in the way of your potential for success.
Ok, at this point you're just a complete asshole, who's assuming they know me and the people I know, assuming the worst, and STILL refuses to refute a SINGLE point I made while regurgitating the same shit over and over. You know NOTHING about me, and in fact, seem to actively ignore the only thing I've said about myself about how I'm an outlier here in that most of this DOES NOT apply to me.
You know NOTHING about how hard working I am, how hard working my friends or family are. Yet you sit on your golden throne passing judgement on me and everyone I know, as well as my entire generation while ignoring every empirically provable fact I've presented.
I'm happy things apparently have worked out for you and your kids, but a family of 6 does not make a sample size for a group 71 million strong.
I just accept you people are so out of touch with reality and so far up your own ass that there's no reasoning with you. You people offer no REAL solutions, just these stupid vague "solutions" about that don't solve anything. I haven't even brought up how EVERY MAJOR COMPANY ON THE PLANET has now switched to AI based resume review that automatically rejects 75% of ALL resumes before a human ever sees them based on some retarded DEI or ESG criteria (https://www.forbes.com/sites/karadennison/2026/03/11/why-ai-is-rejecting-your-resume-before-humans-see-it/)
On top of EVERYTHING ELSE I've brought up mind you. I could bring up dozens of more points in favor of my argument, DOZENS, all factually and empirically provable. But NOTHING will ever satisfy you dumbasses. The LITERAL ONLY possible explanation in your mind is that we're all lazy do nothings who don't want to work hard or some other stupid completely false generalization. There can be NO OTHER POSSIBLE explanation.
AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ADDRESSED A SINGLE POINT, THIS:> "Try imagining a job description in your field that only you can do, because you do it better than anyone else can. You are the product and you need to learn how to sell yourself to your chosen industry. Advertised jobs are not where the real opportunities are. Try writing your own job description for a job that needs to be created for which your industry has an unmet need, and then go out and sell your skills set as the solution. That is what will open doors, get you past the HR drones, their phony job postings and those alleged career squashing "women" you think are holding you back. Man up.">
Is not a real solution. I mean for God's sake, you even said "alleged" about women getting 90% of the new jobs created annually when I gave you LITERAL PROVABLE EVIDENCE OF IT. This DOES NOT WORK IN MODERN DAY.
I just can't fathom being this far up my own ass, that I literally ignore factual evidence, and tell someone to just "will" a job into existence basically. Even if this DID freaking work, which it doesn't, you'd STILL have to compete with the immigrants that are willing to do the EXACT SAME JOB, for pennies compared to you.
It's like you people live in some fantasy world, where things work like they did in old sit coms where you could just walk into a hardware store or garage, show you're of good character and BAM, instant lifetime career. I'd love if that were true, but its not. No one freaking cares anymore. Its all about who will do the bare minimum for the least pay.
And NONE OF THIS EVEN ADDRESSES THE MAIN POINT, that even if you COULD get an entry level position somewhere, you STILL WILL NOT BE MAKING A LIVING WAGE, because to live a "normal life" like what someone in 1990 did, you'd have to be making over a $100K MINIMUM. So regardless of if you somehow manage to magically will this hypothetical job into existence using boomer magic, you STILL wouldn't be making enough to be anything other than a forever renter.
The ENTIRE POINT of ALL of this, is that the lifestyle people WANT, what USED TO BE FREAKING NORMAL, one working parent, one job, kids, and an owned home, is LITERALLY UNOBTAINABLE, for the vast majority of people born after 2000, under the current system and circumstances.
Not everyone can join the military, not everyone can be a lawyer, or a doctor, not everyone can get lucky and somehow magically make what you're saying work if it somehow DID work. It USED to be that ANYONE could work just about ANY basic job that wasn't fast food, and have that kind of lifestyle. Basic, but nice and satisfying. That's not true today.
I just seriously cannot wrap my head around being this far up my own ass about any given topic, but I give up, you win. You're more stubborn than me. Congratulations. I'm out, I can't be bothered to keep arguing with someone who refuses see ANY kind of reason, ignores EVERY bit of empirical evidence, and just keeps regurgitating the same shit over and over that's just so blatantly WRONG with such unjustified confidence. Namely because the world has changed GREATLY in the past several decades. The world post 2008 is so different from pre 2008, and post 2020 with pre 2020, that you can't even compare recent history with the circumstances previous generations lived through. EVEN the freaking silent generation that lived through the great depression EVENTUALLY got a legitimate economic break with WW II, which jumpstarted EVERYTHING to the point it created the greatest economic conditions in modern history for any given generation. Trump is helping yeah, but until this system collapses, its not enough to completely reverse all of this damage. I just give up on arguing this, there's no winning against you people who are so WRONG, yet have this bizarre unshakable confidence in being right DESPITE being provably wrong. Its literally like arguing with a liberal on twitter. No matter how much you prove them wrong, they just ignore anything they don't like, pretend like it doesn't exist and continue spouting the same bullshit like no one just literally disproved what they said. This is the exact same thing. And its ONLY on this topic. In ANY OTHER TOPIC OR CONDITION, EVERYONE would agree there's a systemic problem because of the cabal, banks, giant investment funds, etc. colluding to create a class of forever renter serfs/slaves, but when it comes to this specific demographic of younger people ALL OF THAT goes out the window and you people REFUSE to accept the same is true for younger generations.
You can't have it both ways. Either the cabal is colluding to make everyone a forever renter slave making JUST ENOUGH to not starve to death, or everyone is a lazy ass and there's 10s of millions of high paying six figure jobs out there that nobody wants for some absolutely insane reason because they're too lazy to work.
Both CANNOT be true at the same time.
But whatever, I said I'm done and I mean it this time. I have better things to do than argue with some dumbass who's convinced he's the only correct person on the planet, and everyone else living their lives is wrong about what's going on in their lives. Enjoy your golden throne, oh arbiter of work ethics and judge of the youth.
I am sorry for you that you have made so many poor choices in your career and life and appear to be on the way to making many many more by your own telling. Your decisions have left you hopeless and irretrievable embittered and seemingly on a forever descending vortex of despond. You have chosen to surrender to market challenges instead of looking for the opportunities in them.
You refuse to tell me what it is that you do better than anyone else, likely because you can't, and this makes you incapable of selling whatever it is you do to anyone at a price you'd like to be paid.
It's so much easier to complain about your competition than to face it head on an excel past it. And that's just your lazy streak coming out again. Either that or you are fundamentally inept and I have been talking to an unaccomplished block of chalk this whole time.
"Not everyone can join the military,"
True, only the best can, and clearly you are not it.
"not everyone can be a lawyer, or a doctor,"
I am neither. Didn't need to be to get where I got. I designed my career niche and filled it. I pick and choose my clients Sadly, you are too lazy to identify the unique niche you might fill yourself, because you have become the pedestrian jeet competing talent you strove to be, and nothing more.
"not everyone can get lucky"
The job market to you is just playing the slots, is it? Doing the same unsuccessful thing over and over and expecting a different result if only the stars would align. If you want to make the big bucks you have to sell skills that your employer can't get from the nearest jeet or chick. Eschew gambling. It's not luck. Success is found in hard work, persistence, good choices, it's not debt, it's not chance - "the house always wins," not you.
So typical of so many flailing about
I feel like all of this is aimed at helping your generation, and those after you. My time for building a family has past but not for my gen z kids. They still don't want families, but I'm hoping the positive things that are coming will change their minds. Once life is affordable again for daily things and American dream traditions (home, car, vacations), I feel like people will be hopeful again for familial prosperity and want to build something, again. Like how it used to be.
Boomers got 8k untaxed SS while , Gen Z got 25k untaxed Tips and 20% of base pay worth of OT tax-free. Take advantage of one
Partly politics. The Older generations command more political power and wealth than Gen Z. Given we’ve chosen to organize society along the lines of glorified popularity contests deciding who gets to lead. There’s more political benefit in appealing to the larger and wealthier older generations.
He’d also need to run many of those proposed ideas and programs through Congress. And many corners of Congress will oppose it for various reasons.
Partly a steadfast refusal of Many Americans to accept things have in fact irreversibly changed. Quite a few people, particularly older generations though not exclusively keep nursing the idea we can go back to mid-twentieth century America politically, culturally, and economically. Without regard to the unique circumstances that made that ‘Golden Age’ possible.
There’s also to a certain degree near religious worship of the markets, Business, and Industry on the right. So introducing any sort of policy that could be perceived as challenging Private Businesses profit margins or behavior will be costly politically. Even if people acknowledge that the behavior is ultimately detrimental long term for the country.
In the "Golden Age" we hadn't outsourced our industries to foreign lands. Families were intact (except for the family destruction caused by the Welfare Society). Addictions were not prominent (I'm speaking of both drugs and internet social media). Sexual perversion was largely hidden, and molestation of children was condignly punished. Taxation was not onerous. Entertainment was not depraved and was not expensive. Abortion was not rampant (families were thought a blessing). Christianity was faithfully held by most, if not all. Obsessive environmentalism had not turned our transportation into expensive chariots of fire (sly dig at the incineratory EVs). We also had the "can do" attitude that got us through World War II and the Space Age. We see it again in Elon Musk and marvel...when we should be mortified at what we had nearly lost, restored by an immigrant.
Nothing "unique" about being healthy in mind, body, spirit, and society.