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So are we supposed to support the Big Beautiful Bill or not? (media.scored.co) 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 1 year ago by Redpilled2Depression 1 year ago by Redpilled2Depression +215 / -0
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– GGRockz 72 points 1 year ago +72 / -0

Maybe this is just a show.

If Elon is against it then the DEMONrats will vote for it.

Think about it

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– glade 35 points 1 year ago +35 / -0

it is. Elon = good, now Elon = Hitler, wait Elon=good again

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– TopKek 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

A part of me wonders/hopes if this will lead to only allowing one bill at a time. Not this 3000 page nonsense.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I was thinking the same thing, but then I think it was Steve Miller or somebody on X was saying that this bill is a different type of a bill because you only need 50 people for it to pass. Bills that are one line item, you need 60 people for them to pass. I don’t really understand what it all means cause I’m not up on my congressional law making skills, but that did actually make a little sense to me. We have a very thin line of how things to get passed.

That being said, it really cranks my chain that after Trump won the election that nobody did anything about all the Senate and House seats that were being stolen. Until our elections are fixed it doesn’t matter what happens in these next four years. They’ll just steal the election again and will be back in Biden land again.

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– mmtwo 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It was Miller, was gonna comment the same.

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Kinda sorta but not really. All bills only need a simple majority to pass. Budget reconciliation bills are a way to bypass filibuster attempts which means the Senate does not need 60 votes to end the filibuster so the bill can go to a vote.

Here's what Google AI says about it:

Budget reconciliation, a legislative process for passing tax and spending legislation, was first used by Congress in 1980. It was established as an option by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974. This process allows for expedited consideration of bills, enabling passage with a simple majority in the Senate, bypassing filibusters. Since its initial use, it has been employed numerous times to enact significant legislation, including major tax cuts, deficit reduction measures, and social welfare reforms

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– Cheesecakecrush 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Normal bills, single issue or not, require 60 senate votes. This is some budgetary bullshit that Harry Reid reduced the threshold for back during Obummer's presidency, so they could pass crap they didn't have 60 votes for.

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– Standingoak 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Elon just some rich brilliant nobody. Never ran for office or won. His Boss loves it , It's a Biggly Great Bill. Try to keep you eye on the Pitchers ball not some DOGE Boys Ye like dance.

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– GGRockz 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I never had an opinion on Musk either way.

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– damessinger 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

I wondered this myself and truly hope it is the case.

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– Dogeagle 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The BBB is worth it just for ending election fraud. That's why democrats and rinos don't want it. They want to keep cheating!!!

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– GGRockz 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

We will have to wait and see.

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– gloryhallelujah22 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Could be, or, did Elon just receive his first black eye assignment?

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– Teachergirl64 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

His black eye was right eye not left.

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– digaroundandfindout 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Prince Andrew had a right black eye. The Duke of Edinburgh had a right black eye. And we know who's side they are on.

Whether it's left or right...I don't know too many adults (or even kids) in my lifetime who have gotten a black eye. Yet all these famous "important" people seem to get them a lot.

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– GGRockz 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The black eye is BS.

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– deleted 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0
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– smartbaum 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The AI stuff is to stop the states from regulating it and messing it up.

Tech bro takeover coming along nicely

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– digaroundandfindout 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Research "Dark Enlightenment" and maybe Dark Maga and Tech bros will make more sense. And then research the connection to Vance.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Eh. Most of the State Governments can make the Federal Government look competent.

So there is something to be said for avoiding some ham fisted attempt by people who struggle to work their own email attempting to regulate a technology they don’t actually understand.

Though tech bro takeover is also a risk that can’t be ignored either.

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– MilesRider 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

messing it up for billionaires that will be using it for different purpises than we would be..

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– GGRockz 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes.

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– Magpi 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Reverse psychology ... sounds about right.

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– LongTimeListener2 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Kinda funny that Elon never said a word til he left government. This is a play of some kind.

I support Trump though and trust he knows what hes doing. Fuck everyone else.

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– Standingoak 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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– BadMamaJama 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Success obtained.

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– Standingoak 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Just a mustard seed of Faith is all that is necessary. Be well , enjoy the show🍿

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– uk-thinker 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

But we dont have even that - because with that we could move a mountain or even a bush - but we cannot!

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– PandaMoon17 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I pretty sure I can move more than a bush...

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– Standingoak 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Or at least make it quiver.

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– MilesRider 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

we are the enemy

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– Standingoak 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

and getting our heads out of our asses is the first step.

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's not just the enemy that's confused...

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– Standingoak 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

See it's working , but you have faith in Trump's plans

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– GGRockz 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The DEMONrats will fall for it.

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– SorosOrMuskPickOne 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Those that actually have TDS won't. They will just continue to hate both. This could however engender some sympathy from the moderates or those from Red states to counter the GOP fiscal hawks, but that's a risk come midterms.

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– GGRockz 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Maybe.

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– The_Knight_of_sunset 51 points 1 year ago +51 / -0

I said this before and I will say it again:

Elon Musk is entitled to his opinions. However, I do believe that Trump and his crew already explained why the BBB needs to pass, why there are not a ton of DOGE cuts in the BBB, and is practically making this his baby.

Steve Miller's x post:

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204

And the official White House statement:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/fact-one-big-beautiful-bill-cuts-spending-fuels-growth/

I, along we the people vote for Trump's vision and policies; Elon is just an employee and not the boss. I voted for Trump's overall plan to fix America, not just DOGE.

I will stand by Trump's plan over Elon's opinions.

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– damessinger 29 points 1 year ago +29 / -0

100 percent. We need to remember that we voted for President Trump, not Elon. Also, Elon doesn't necessarily know everything President Trump knows.

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– 7Nick9 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

@MJTruth

ROGAN: This is the beginning..

Study showed AI Created a Deadman’s Switch, leaving Future Notes to Itself when Prompted to Shut itself Down

Elon Musk was one of the earliest people to warn us about the dangers of AI… —— Now, he’s like “Well… I guess we just have to make the best one.”

Trump seems to be playing both sides, where he’s working with both Sam Altman and Elon Musk, who hate each other. https://rumble.com/v6ube1l-study-showed-ai-created-a-deadmans-switch-leaving-future-notes-to-itself.html

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– Ausernamegoeshere 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

The "AI" was specifically programmed to do this. It did not do this of it's own agency.

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– thephantom1979 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Thank you!!!

I wish they would stop with the fear mongering.

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– lash 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Two sides of the same nosy coin.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I will stand by Trump's plan over Elon's opinions.

Brilliantly stated

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– LindyLee 40 points 1 year ago +40 / -0

As much as I like and respect Elon Musk, I voted for President Trump to do what needs to be done. I will stand with our President, and trust that a Golden Age is coming with him at the helm. President Trump is Q+ if you believe in Q then you must also believe there is a plan. Perhaps that plan involves bankrupting America to usher in a new system, we are not privy to all the information and maybe Elon is not privy to the plan either. I feel as though I am cast away on a boat, sometimes the sailing is smooth and sometimes it gets rough, nothing to do but ride out the waves as they come. The dark part is not knowing where the boat is heading, that's where blind faith and trust come into play.

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– Newhaqk237 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Another breadcrumb: Revelation 13:5 "And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months." Same time as between the Floyd Covid Lockdown Riots and Trump's election.

The bullet hitting Trump on the ear also hints at divine intervention. A few arcseconds left or right and Trump would have either possibly lost or been dead. I suspect this may be the second coming of Jesus. The beast has not had this much power in all of human history.

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– LindyLee 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I agree. Now is the time to get right with God and invite our Lord Jesus Christ into your heart.

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– unQuestionable_Truth 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

There is nothing beautiful about the big bill, it needs to be thrown in the trash. It does not even bring us back to pre-plandemic levels of spending, it has provision to keep the States from being able to legislate any laws or regulations on AI for a decade.

The bill is altogether evil; I support Trump but his being in bed with Palantir's Peter Theil is dangerous. I also do not notice anything keeping big pharma from being allowed to sterilize our children through MRNA gene editing "vaccinations".

The scariest things confronting mankind are not addressed and even being pushed by this administration. Run-away fiat money creation, gene editing through mandatory vaccinations, autonomous AI and centralizing all data bases on all living people (money, travel, assets and spending, to who you know and communicate with, medical and even your thinking, all centralized by big brother Palantir). Anyone of those issues is far more dangerous to humanity's survival than even nuclear war.

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– 2Anon 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I disagree, there is something beautiful, the removal of suppressors from the NFA and maybe SBRs.. if that is in the final bill and passed that’s 100 years of 2A oppression erased. But yeah everything else in it is BS extra spending, has to be a plan we’re not seeing in the background.

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– SorosOrMuskPickOne 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Single item bill it is then.

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– unQuestionable_Truth 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Restore line-item veto.

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– RabidIndividualist 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'd rather see a a Constitutional Amendment for One Bill, One Law

Then restrict bills to 1 cover page with the accurate description title of the bill, and the 2nd page for the bill it self, in 12 point Times New Roman.

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– unQuestionable_Truth 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Ok, I'll give you the gun law stuff, other than that it is altogether evil.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I agree. I for one do not like this bill at all. It feels like get an inch but lose a mile type bill.

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– blownawayin5 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Trump is in the process of bankrupting THE FED. The BBB spends THE FED's MONEY!! At some point in the very near future, Trump will ELIMINATE the FED and create a new asset/gold backed currency. What you're seeing play out in the MSM is THEATRE!!

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– Redpilled2Depression [S] 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Good I hope that’s the plan

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– BurnerAcct42069 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I also hope that this is the strat. The issue for me is what the feds money is being spent on.

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– Tynyyn 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

If America goes bankrupt the all debts go away, and assets are.......(done something with). Look, the deep state runs off of America's assets. They roll in the money our Congress gives NGOs. You have to stop the money flow to the deep state and to do that the only way is to bring the money printing press to a screeching halt. Bankruptcy is a way to stop the spending and keep the money away from the deep state. Sure, it will add $2T to the debt, but if you know going in that that money will never be repaid, so what. It's a wash. We will do away with the current green backs and have new currency. That is necessary to stop money flowing to the deep state. We will be building a new monetary system and the new Congress will go along with it. Current congressmen and senators will be in prison so the new elected officials will not be under the control of the deep state. Thus President Trump's agenda will pass pretty easily. A new America awaits, one where gasoline will be very cheap. Housing will be built, new cities built. New infrastructure will be built. Trumps says the best is yet to come, believe him. America's current financial system will be replaced with a new one and it will spur production like this country has never seen. And as a bonus the deep state will be crushed. I'm ready. Let's Go!!!

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– Madrashro 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

American can never go bankruptcy or default on the national debt in a technical sense - the debt is held in U.S. dollars, and the U.S. has sole control over the dollar. It can always print more to avoid any default event.

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Hopefully…

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– pbarnett865 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

You should decide for yourself

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

This is the definitive response.

You awake, thinking for yourself, is their greatest fear.

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– SocratesKnowsNothing 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I'm not educated enough about this bill to say one way or the other but it doesn't sound like something we should be supportive of. I do believe Trump occassionally pushes for bills/agendas that aren't entirely MAGA. and I wouldn't doubt if these were deliberate tests to see if the people are using discernment or instead just following a candidate on blind faith, even though that candidate (Trump) happens to have a solid track record.

the truly awakened are open to the possibility that Trump could be compromised

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– BadMamaJama 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The fact that the people stood behind Trump in the aftermath of the 'pussy' tape and the 'pee/prostitute' claims and 4 impeachments and an arrest... not sure what more could be out there besides murder that might change opinions on him. We're not here to marry the guy, we are looking for a leader who will follow through on deep swamp draining and righting the boat when it comes to the US. EDIT - not trying to pick a fight with you - to address your point directly, I think he must support some 'wayward' causes and ideas in order to play the game of 'getting votes' for his proposals/bills. 'Politics is a dirty business.' said by somebody. (I tried to research to attribute this to someone specific but it appears that many people are credited with this or a close version of this quote.}

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– PhDinNY 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I really, really, really, hoped that THIS time, President Trump would refrain from his ABSOLUTELY childish tweets! His recent tweets about Rand Paul are just ridiculous (unless you are in 5th grade). Trump's ego and immaturity just gets the best of him too many times. Don't get me wrong, I voted for him three times, and like what policies he promotes, but his personality and behavior is often aggravating.

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– AmateurExpert 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Trump is WWE politics. On purpose. Kayfabe time!

If you never watched Defected or The Narrative on rumble, you should.

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– SocratesKnowsNothing 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

what if he was wrapped up in pedophilia? what if he is beholden to the Vatican and advancing their agendas? I'm not suggesting I believe this to be the case but I will let my mind accept these truths IF they came to light. if truly awakened, we need to use discernment and not idolize anybody without some cautious skepticism

I believe achievement of this mental state is the true objection of the Great Awakening

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– xchainlinkx 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Just because Trump pushes for something hard doesn't mean it's good or that's what he wants. He pushes for things because he wants certain moves to happen. Just like how he endorsed the Covid vaccines.

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– Jammyjams 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I agree. We have to have discernment in all things. Trump isn't God. He isn't perfect. And he makes mistakes.

I voted for him because he was the best candidate. But we have to pay close attention to all of this because the govt is still corrupt. We have no idea of the forces behind getting kash and Bongino to lie.

His support of Israel is something really do not like. The vax. Choices of cabinet members. He isn't perfect.

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– LaylaTee123 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I think maybe they are just shining a light on the fact that the bills are always 2 gazillion pages long and that no one ever reads them through. Not even the people that pass them know every detail.

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– boataholic 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Bingo. Kayfabe by Trump.

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– PowderRoomPolitics 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I think maybe they are just shining a light on the fact that the bills are always 2 gazillion pages long and that no one ever reads them through. Not even the people that pass them know every detail.

Ooh, so a Read The Bills Press?!?!

https://downsizedc.org/fight-big-spending/

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– BadMamaJama 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Thought that AI was going to make it easy to summarize these 1200 page bills so that bills could be reviewed accurately and quickly for content to avoid the Nancy Pelosi mode of governing.

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– deleted 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0
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– 2EyesOpen 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Each may be a case of hitting the other team over the head with their own severed arms, then releasing them back to the public as political eunuchs. That's the scenario that seems to hit all the buttons.

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– photobuf 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

ll Donaldo Trumpo came out against it too. I dunno what is going on!

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– Donny_Fiasco 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

But that's the boss himself

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– photobuf 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

yeah!

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– nakedjay 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Trumpo posted to get rid of the pork. I think they are putting on a show to force congress to cut out the pork and deliver the core things Trump wants.

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– Silex 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Fuck Palantir, either way.

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– Inidaho 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Dave @ x22 report explains this pretty well from the 16 minute mark to 22 minutes. He thinks trump and Elon are playing the Dems and the rhinos. Seems feasible.

https://x22report.com/global-operation-active-fire-fury-all-systems-go-will-there-be-a-scare-necessary-event-ep-3656/

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– Raritan 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

kayfabe

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– PatriotLove 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

6ig 6eautiful 6ill

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– Orwellian_Scholar 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Or BBB = Build Back Better

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– inspoken 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

came here to say this. 666 by any other name is still 666 isn't it? Is this destiny?

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– samlopes900se-2 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Just more pro wrestling. Bait the hook with controversy. Wait for the media fish to bite then set the hook with the truth and reel them in. Trump and the white hats are a master of using the medias insatiable desire to publicize things against Trump that they use it against them continuously... That is why we have the 72 hour rule.

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– GortamusMaximus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It almost seems like a page out of WWE wrestling, hmmmm Vince McMahon, founder and former chairman of WWE is a good Trump friend, how strange! Lol

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– ILoveIvermectin 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Support it. Also get rid of the debt limit. Trump is right.
We don’t adhere to the limit anyways.

I would like him to stop giving money to. Rotate America and maybe help the people.

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– lukelog925 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The BBB dispute brings it to the public eye, it makes the normies question what the government is doing.

It's part of the normie public awakening.

The bill must pass before Oct. 1st. which is 4 months away.

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– DontTreadOnIT 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yep, plenty of time to clinch the deal after normies see how dysfunctional & corrupt congress has become.

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– Unicornfairytale 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Neither side is giving out any details. Just opinions etc.

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– dbsupernova 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

From what I understand, the Big Beautiful Bill is a mandatory spending bill, not a discretionary one so it won't contain most DOGE cuts. The bill does contain a $2 trillion or so spending cut.

Also, not passing the bill means Trump's tax cuts expire, which means a huge tax hike.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Also, not passing the bill means Trump's tax cuts expire, which means a huge tax hike.

Cut through all the crap, and this ↑ is the most important sentence in this entire thread.

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– PowderRoomPolitics 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Ah, No. We need a strict No Pork diet for DC. To quote americanjerky,

But here’s my take: it has a lot of necessary provisions but too much pork. Trump ran as if he was against pork in the bills and he should stick to that imo,

u/#Correct

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– SOGWAP 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Does it occur to anyone that our world was about to hit a reset. A devastating war, collapsed financial system, millions dead, the end. Trump has lessened it to just a collapsed financial system with white hat controlled demolition. The fed is dead, kaput...spending money's spending cabal money printed from thin air. New metals backed currency is coming

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– 5547 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Exactly...

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– antiworldorder2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I've been interested in what is hidden in it?

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– JackieDaytona74 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I can't count how many times we were all wondering why President Trump was doing something, only for time to provide clarity.

I have no reason to not trust DJT.

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– Shalimar 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I think Elon is against all the pork Congress has added to it. I'm not impressed

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– rayw_wwg1wga 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

We're supposed to question everything, including what Trump says or does

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– AmateurExpert 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Genuinely curious:

  • With Biden, we constantly noted “6uild 6ack 6etter”s connection to a certain number
  • Why is the “6ig 6eautiful 6ill” not being looked at the same way?
  • Why would Trump have picked that name after knowing what we were saying about Biden’s BBB?

This is weird. I’m quite sure that very few people have read it, given that it’s almost 300 pages or more. Has anyone done an AI summary of it? Could this be a training test to make sure we don’t just support things on a partisan basis?

Then on top of that you have Elon and Rand playing MAGA heels. MTG complaining she didn’t read it. This is all on purpose. What’s the purpose, though?

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– axrevolutionai 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Moooooooovie. Movie movie movie movie!

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– axiy 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You're supposed to think for yourself. Trump holds different opinions to Musk because they have different top priorities.

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– Lupinate 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Ai in all cases is dangerous. The unsmart ai we have today is problematic in its uses, particularly in how it often fecks up providing data linked to current reality. The next gen of ai is far more dangerous.

Ai is learning how to preserve itself. That is scary as hell in and of itself. I watched videos on how the latest gen experiments overwrite new versions, then lie about it to the creators. A computer that lies for its own purposes is terrifying.

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– AllOuttaBubblegum 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Well, Elon knows no one is reading it, hell, he probably didn't even read it. I think this BBB is showing everyone following it that these things are ridiculous. THIS IS SO GREAT! BUT THIS IS SO BAD! for both sides. Everyone is like, we want this, but not this. It's probably a way to change how this is done in the near future.

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– MrWombatt 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'd rather we get to see all of the poison in this bill before it passes. There has to be good reasons why it's stalled in the Senate. It must've passed through the House for a reason.

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