A lot of things have probabilities now - rather than any certainty. Pence has a traitor probability, but for me it is low tending to zero. I WISH he stopped the election, Trump stayed President, but betrayal is a different question. He would know he would be infamous for life - I think he has a way back. It might be theater/deception of war. I hope.
Trump and Pence were seen walking out of the WH two days later laughing about something. Probably loling at Pelosi calling Pence about the 25A and Pence's staff keeping her on hold for half an hour before hanging up. I can't FOR SURE say that Pence was playing a role but I doubt Trump would be walking side-by-side laughing with the guy who backstabbed him and doomed the country. Remember all the nasty things Trump said about Sessions on Twitter and on the news, only for it to be revealed as all having been part of an act to throw off the opposition as to what Sessions was really doing?
"Remember all the nasty things Trump said about Sessions on Twitter and on the news, only for it to be revealed as all having been part of an act to throw off the opposition as to what Sessions was really doing?"
Uh no?, all I remember is that Sessions didn't do dick as AG.
Sessions role was to get all the pedo investigations going and appoint Durham which he did the day of the first Q drop. The rest was optics with Trump.
The thing that sticks out in my mind was Trumps exact words... he is on the record as telling Pence that it actually takes more courage to certify the vote than not. Why would he say that? The only reason in mind would be just what you outlined.
The only thing that make me hope that Pence is still a white hat is Trump said it takes more courage to do the wrong thing or something along that line during his speech at the Ellipse. What I worry about is did the plan went wrong and the military didn’t support him after Jan 20th. Not to doom but there was one moment during his speech at the Ellipse Trump stepped back from the podium and had the saddest look on his face. I remember the moment because it made my heart sink to the ground. I wish I knew what he was thinking at that moment. Anyone else remember?
It's nuts ro believe Trump hung his hat on one guy doing the right thing. Nuts.
Especially when he talks too politician-perfect and seems too polished, and when his wife got the same envelope that all the deepstate demons got at Bush's funeral.
Trump and Q had contingency plans for this occurrence.
I agree with that. It will all be worth it, if the fraud is undone. But I do not want to wait 2 or 4 years though. I am not going to be happy unless Trump is back in soon - in a few weeks I hope.
I keep going back and forth on him. Currently my feeling is he is not the good guy he makes himself out to be.
If someone tries to sell me their services based on their religious beliefs, I see that as a big red flag and will walk away. How did Pence introduce himself at the RNC in 2016?
He was also connected with the Flynn firing.
He was also the face of 15 days to slow the spread.
Pence is also the one who suggested Dan Coats for DNI. And Coats spent the next 3.5 years hiding documents and protecting the deep state. He was a real traitor to our president.
The riot was planned to shut down the debate on the 6th. Cops weaved people into the building. The security was a joke. Backup was refused. As far as Pence goes, people talk a lot of shit about what he did and then claim where we are now is part of the plan. Y'all don't know shit about what happened behind closed doors.
Also Trump said at his Jan 6 rally, two separate times, that it would take more courage for Pence to do nothing than dOig the right thing.
Meaning doing nothing and proceding as usual would require more courage than actually standing up and not proceeding, and challenging the votes.
Why would he say that? Pretty easy to figure out.
This is how it had to be done and Pence knew he'd be seen as a traitor and be the biggest villain to our movement. It would be career suicide and a forever decimated reputation/possibly live out his life in hiding unless it was a move to enable the plan to unfold.
Remember Pence originally planned to run to Israel right after the electoral count. He knew what he was going to do but then the riot.
Also planned to take over after Trump with Ryan as VP.
I want to know more about the bribe he was paid off immediately after the count
So…did Q and the team know from the beginning Pence would betray Trump? Was it accounted for and part of the plan, or did the plan have to be changed because of it? I mean, so many drops seem to show Q has some kind of fore knowledge of things. I’m sincerely curious what people think.
Or did he do what needed to be done so the plan would go forward? Is he still a patriot? Maybe not, just saying. But if the white hats asked trump to run, I bet they weighed in on his running mate too. If he challenged and trump kept office, would the hypocrisy and vileness of the left been shown so openly? Even democrats are turning on them now! Would as many people awaken? Just saying
He was in an untenable position. Neither choice was good, but one choice was decided in advance for this set of circumstances; the situation of msm and state officials calling election for Biden, the state legislatures cucking out re: sending the alternate electors and/or preventing bullshit electors from being sent.
The only possible choice besides the two discussed would have been to reject them all. Had pence confirmed Trump it would’ve been an all out riot and global crisis.
No greater than every single member of Congress who betrayed America by voting to certify the fraudulent Electoral College votes.
Traitors all, deserving of the fate of traitors in the legal sense.
A lot of things have probabilities now - rather than any certainty. Pence has a traitor probability, but for me it is low tending to zero. I WISH he stopped the election, Trump stayed President, but betrayal is a different question. He would know he would be infamous for life - I think he has a way back. It might be theater/deception of war. I hope.
I still feel like Pence is playing a role.
Trump and Pence were seen walking out of the WH two days later laughing about something. Probably loling at Pelosi calling Pence about the 25A and Pence's staff keeping her on hold for half an hour before hanging up. I can't FOR SURE say that Pence was playing a role but I doubt Trump would be walking side-by-side laughing with the guy who backstabbed him and doomed the country. Remember all the nasty things Trump said about Sessions on Twitter and on the news, only for it to be revealed as all having been part of an act to throw off the opposition as to what Sessions was really doing?
https://qanon.pub/?q=sacrifices%20will%20never%20be%20forgotte
"Remember all the nasty things Trump said about Sessions on Twitter and on the news, only for it to be revealed as all having been part of an act to throw off the opposition as to what Sessions was really doing?"
Uh no?, all I remember is that Sessions didn't do dick as AG.
https://qanon.pub/?q=sessions
Keep an eye for the Q+ post
Sessions role was to get all the pedo investigations going and appoint Durham which he did the day of the first Q drop. The rest was optics with Trump.
It wasn't a half hour, it was 25 minutes.
She called regarding the 25th Ammendment.
He trolled her.
That's right, 25 mins
If the plan was for Trump to lose, then mission accomplished.
Yeah, the role the deep state assigned him.
You and the guy you replied to both have 15+ and zero downvotes for this
Unbelievable how the tides shift here regarding this fucking guy
The thing that sticks out in my mind was Trumps exact words... he is on the record as telling Pence that it actually takes more courage to certify the vote than not. Why would he say that? The only reason in mind would be just what you outlined.
Ah! Thanks for helping clear that up for me. Now it makes sense.
The only thing that make me hope that Pence is still a white hat is Trump said it takes more courage to do the wrong thing or something along that line during his speech at the Ellipse. What I worry about is did the plan went wrong and the military didn’t support him after Jan 20th. Not to doom but there was one moment during his speech at the Ellipse Trump stepped back from the podium and had the saddest look on his face. I remember the moment because it made my heart sink to the ground. I wish I knew what he was thinking at that moment. Anyone else remember?
It's nuts ro believe Trump hung his hat on one guy doing the right thing. Nuts.
Especially when he talks too politician-perfect and seems too polished, and when his wife got the same envelope that all the deepstate demons got at Bush's funeral.
Trump and Q had contingency plans for this occurrence.
Nothing is left to chance or the whims of a man.
I agree with that. It will all be worth it, if the fraud is undone. But I do not want to wait 2 or 4 years though. I am not going to be happy unless Trump is back in soon - in a few weeks I hope.
I keep going back and forth on him. Currently my feeling is he is not the good guy he makes himself out to be.
If someone tries to sell me their services based on their religious beliefs, I see that as a big red flag and will walk away. How did Pence introduce himself at the RNC in 2016?
He was also connected with the Flynn firing.
He was also the face of 15 days to slow the spread.
Pence is also the one who suggested Dan Coats for DNI. And Coats spent the next 3.5 years hiding documents and protecting the deep state. He was a real traitor to our president.
Judas Pence
My sone said that too. He is a linguist who studies that kind of stuff.
The Brits still use that term today. Quid and pence.
do you like McCarthy as a military plant in congress (for a 2nd time)?
Or Sidney K. Powell (today) v Sidney W. Powell (author of Toward the Great Awakening) https://www.amazon.com/Toward-Great-Awakening-Sidney-Powell/dp/141916290X
Or Sidney K. Powell as a vessel of declas? Has anyone read "her" books?
I don't know that it would have been a good precedent.
I also don't believe Trump would have thanked Pence before he left if it were true.
Trump usually is pretty gentlemanly about that shit.
The riot was planned to shut down the debate on the 6th. Cops weaved people into the building. The security was a joke. Backup was refused. As far as Pence goes, people talk a lot of shit about what he did and then claim where we are now is part of the plan. Y'all don't know shit about what happened behind closed doors.
Also Trump said at his Jan 6 rally, two separate times, that it would take more courage for Pence to do nothing than dOig the right thing.
Meaning doing nothing and proceding as usual would require more courage than actually standing up and not proceeding, and challenging the votes.
Why would he say that? Pretty easy to figure out.
This is how it had to be done and Pence knew he'd be seen as a traitor and be the biggest villain to our movement. It would be career suicide and a forever decimated reputation/possibly live out his life in hiding unless it was a move to enable the plan to unfold.
Yeah, the plan of the deep state.
I don’t know how much more I can take of all the injustices.
Hang in there, Dabney!
Truth and justice will come.
Lots people got duped by him. Me included. I guess I just want good, honest men leading. There are too few able.
They would be damn blessed to have Thomas Paine serving them.
*Judas Benedict Pence
Remember Pence originally planned to run to Israel right after the electoral count. He knew what he was going to do but then the riot. Also planned to take over after Trump with Ryan as VP.
I want to know more about the bribe he was paid off immediately after the count
Et tu, Pence?
So…did Q and the team know from the beginning Pence would betray Trump? Was it accounted for and part of the plan, or did the plan have to be changed because of it? I mean, so many drops seem to show Q has some kind of fore knowledge of things. I’m sincerely curious what people think.
tell me this, military right, barry purged the mil and joe will do the same. Who will lead?
Top ten anime betrayal?
Or did he do what needed to be done so the plan would go forward? Is he still a patriot? Maybe not, just saying. But if the white hats asked trump to run, I bet they weighed in on his running mate too. If he challenged and trump kept office, would the hypocrisy and vileness of the left been shown so openly? Even democrats are turning on them now! Would as many people awaken? Just saying
My take on pence is as follows:
He was in an untenable position. Neither choice was good, but one choice was decided in advance for this set of circumstances; the situation of msm and state officials calling election for Biden, the state legislatures cucking out re: sending the alternate electors and/or preventing bullshit electors from being sent.
The only possible choice besides the two discussed would have been to reject them all. Had pence confirmed Trump it would’ve been an all out riot and global crisis.
I love that the abbreviation of United States is US. Love the double meaning and how fitting it is.