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posted ago by deplorable333 ago by deplorable333 +79 / -0
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Monomial 31 points ago +31 / -0

“Never argue with stupid people (e.g. a leftist), they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

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lash 2 points ago +2 / -0

This exactly. They will project their insecurity and hatred towards OP. They will use every EMO trick in the book.

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Thwok 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ask him what his chromosomes are...

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Taffy333 30 points ago +30 / -0

They don't want to hear what you have to say, so instead of presenting points and defending your position, respond to all their comments/assertions with questions only. Make them explain themselves and defend their positions, then watch them sputter and repeat lame talking points, then ask them more questions.

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showmeyourpede 5 points ago +5 / -0

I like this approach... most liberals make statements by using MSM talking points but they have zero research / stats / critical thinking to back up their claims

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Joys1Daughter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Me, too...use their icon's stupid racist comments against them have strong evidence talking points to counter the arguments. Go search Kathryn Boschenko (sp?) Channel and listen to her. Her looks are deceiving. Also use Candice Owens and others, especially former dem who started the walkway. He's gay and very well spoken. Can't think of his name ATM.

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Joys1Daughter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes! He's great! Thank you fren!

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deplorable333 [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

Interesting!

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JonathanE 5 points ago +5 / -0

Pick a couple of really clear talking points that the left are very confident about, but that you have clear evidence that they are being lied to, preferably using their own sources for evidence.

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posobiec_is_right -1 points ago +3 / -4

That's a real good way to sound like you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Just call her fat till she cries. Then laugh at her, call her a bitch, and hang up.

Fuck communists. They don't deserve anything but ridicule.

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Kekshot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Record the "look fat" and " You ain't black" quotes by Xiden. And play them over and over.

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Thwok 1 point ago +1 / -0

Along with the "most extensive voter fraud" quote

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ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not at all.

You can mention you read a Politico article about Joe Biden's brother buying a plot of land on an island right next to Epstein's island, selling the land to a lobbyist and then renting a portion of the land back from said lobbyist.

Use their sources against them.

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MAGAngelo 3 points ago +3 / -0

We gotta shill folks, deport and move on.

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Greekish 3 points ago +3 / -0

Definitely reply only with questions. Let them state the "facts" then question them.

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Shine382106 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes! This is the tactic I would use.

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MAGAngelo 3 points ago +3 / -0

OP, read this comment...

then read it AGAIN!

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Joyride12 13 points ago +13 / -0

here is your advice, they dont plan to debate you they plan to say "lalala your crazy and lying lalalala" they will say everything you have is debunked even if its not and if you ask them why or how its debunked they will ask you to look it up yourself on google its easy then call you an idiot for not being able to find it

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deplorable333 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Thanks for the feedback!

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MAGAngelo 3 points ago +3 / -0

You obviously have a good idea of what they will say, or you can easily find that out by watching their videos.

So use that as a weapon. Find info that clearly contradicts it, and as someone said, use lefty sources.

If you give them information from MSNBC/NY Times, WaPo/etc.... then when they head the info/data they dislike and try to dismiss you can just say, so you don’t believe (SOURCE) is reputable?

Choose a good 3-4 main points and hammer them home relentlessly, but use different sources and facts each time. Do not be repetitive or you’re beating a dead horse.

And most important of all, they will play off emotions only. Feels over reals. So expect it, and do not fall into the emotional trap. Stay calm coool and collected NO MATTER WHAT.

My favorite thing to do in a debate/discussion is to point out obvious hypocrisy. Turn it around like a mirror.

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soundguy005 12 points ago +13 / -1

Get it on TILT as soon as possible. Start with. "There are only 2 genders" it will loose what is left of its mind. Then you are in the drivers seat. Styay cool. Stay calm Research in advance. Have your ducks in a row.

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Interesting!

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BasedInFact 6 points ago +7 / -1

[cringe]

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deplorable333 [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Not cringe, this is exciting!

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MAGAngelo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Read u/speakeasy comment above! It’s a gem.

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Deadaim6 6 points ago +6 / -0

Try to trap them with a logic bomb if you can. Use their own terminology against them, rephrase your beliefs to sound like theirs.

For example: Them: "VoterID is racist."

You: "Does that mean photo ID for booze/guns/[endless list] is racist? It disproportionately affects POC and poverty stricken. If you shouldn't have to show ID for voting, why should you for guns? They're both constitutional rights."

Them: "But guns are dangerous and responsible for many deaths, we have to regulate them!"

You: "How do you feel about Trump?"

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Hunterscrackbaby 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Voter ID is racist"

I always ask "how is it racist?"

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Nightcereus 5 points ago +5 / -0

My own standard debate techniques and strategies.

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I rely strongly on:

Confidence. Dignity. Personal Integrity. Ethical Behavior. Strength of Character.

Common Sense. Common Courtesy. Common Decency. Common Agreement. Common Interests.

All of the above strengthens credibility.

These are the things that the left tends to ignore. Bad mistake.

Never use ugly tactics, that's what they do.

Come to your results and conclusions by way decency and strength of information and you will have a foundation that will be difficult to counter.

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If I know my subject as I should, if I am to be well prepared, then everything else is presentation.

That's when I focus on things from the list above.

In other words, Walk softly and carry a Big Stick.

Be Polished, Polite and Powerful.

Think of a guitar player going on stage. If he knows his stuff the butterflies dissappear and the performance comes across well even with a few fumbles here and there.

If he is not concerned about knowing the music he can then focus on the show at hand.

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Never ask a question that you do not already know the answer to.

Give them just enough rope to hang themselves.

Respond with questions asking for facts that they cannot provide.

This is an open door for you to do so, or make a point of them not caring enough to know.

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One good question to ask when they say something that you disagree with is, 'Do you have any varying viewpoints on that?'

If yes, that's good. There may be hope, and they may be willing to discuss things somewhat rationally.

If no, then you can point out their lack of due diligence and go on to explain your views, once again, from a position of strength.

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Final thoughts...

Don't be dragged into small, petty arguments. Stay with larger Bedrock points.

Be an actor.

Use the Mona Lisa Smile, not arrogant, just confident.

Have Fun.

Land some punches.

Remember that we are here cheering you on.

Thanks for reading.

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"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thank you North!

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Luke_Q-walker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Keep unflinchingly calm and civil even if they start to resort to personal attacks or childish behavior. While some of their fanatics might delight in their behavior, you'll redpill the more pensive ones. I have observed this sort of thing happen before with other debaters and their audiences.

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deplorable333 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Thank you Luke! I agree!

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wasupwitdis 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dont argue with them just start asking questions....How come this or that. Why is this not making sense? show them a couple things and say how come the msm says this but in reality this is what happened...in other words dont try to shove the red pill up their ass...grease it first and let them sit on it.........

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Great points! Thanks!

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50_stars_for_freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah they will have talking points but little evidence if you make them explain themselves. If it’s comes to evidence you can come in with the pinch hit.

May the presence of God test over your debate so the truth may set people free.

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Gammmadorf 4 points ago +4 / -0

Like playing chess with a pigeon.. doesn't matter if you win or not the bird is still going to shit and strut all over the board.

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JonathanE 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you win? What kind of pigeons do you play chess with?

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FondueFerret 1 point ago +1 / -0

hahaha

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valley-lily 3 points ago +3 / -0

DO NOT let this "person" keep constantly changing the subject. If the subject is about abortion, don't let them chase you into another subject like gay rights. They usually do this by saying "Well, what about this, or what about that." That's called "whataboutism" and this is a tactic they LOVE because it gets you confused and it makes them seem like they know a lot about various subjects. STAY FOCUSED on the main subject or question first presented, and if they try to deviate, remind them and immediately head back to it, don't let them distract you with a bunch of false narratives.

DO NOT let them get you riled up or sputtering if you don't know the answer to one of their questions. If you don't know the answer to something just say "I don't know enough about that subject to make any kind of argument either for or against it, so I'll have to get back to you on that one. Let's head on to something we can both speak about." Don't let them belittle you for not knowing a subject, not everyone knows everything and it's okay to admit you don't know enough to discuss it.

DO NOT let them start using personal attacks like "Oh well you're just a straight white male Christian, what do YOU know about oppression?" Respond with: "Okay, I can have an opinion despite your character attacks against me. Have I said anything defamatory about YOU during this conversation? So why are you attacking me? I've been polite this whole time, but now since you seem like you're losing the debate you instantly start attacking me. That's not very tolerant of you, is it?" This will either make them stop or it will make them double-down so be careful with this one.

Remain calm and collected as much as possible. If you feel your emotions start to rise, take 3-5 seconds to pause and breathe and collect your arguments and then continue. If you don't make it too obvious chances are they won't notice. If they start throwing insults or getting agitated and you remain calm it will be clear to the audience who is the most in control here. And that's the key: you're not debating to convince the other person of your opinion, you're debating to convince the audience. But getting the person to understand some things is always a good thing too.

Good luck.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Oh well you're just a straight white male Christian, what do YOU know about oppression?"

Well, for starters, I can't even state factual evidence without being dismissed due to my race and religion. Considering the same people who attack me for the circumstances of my birth would bend over backwards not to offend an Asian vegan Muslim, it's quite surprising to then hear them speak about "my privilege" when they can't even take me seriously due to the social constructs they keep rambling about and giving power to.

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Not_A_Spy 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they bring up the trans gender children debate and denying these children the right to decide what gender they are...ask them this question.

Would you let a 4 year old tattoo their face? Why not? Would you let a 4 year old decide what they have for dinner each night for the rest of their lives? Why not?

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Themessenger777 3 points ago +3 / -0

I applaud your conviction..how much time do you have? That makes a huge difference in material you may want to present....

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

An hour or two.

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Themessenger777 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's quite a bit if time...I'll see what I can dig up for you to consider in my info stash!

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Not_A_Spy 3 points ago +3 / -0

The best way I have ever learned to argue or debate isn’t to PROVE my point of view. It’s to poke holes and cause doubt in theirs. That’s what truly gets them to think logically. Comparisons are always a great way to do this also. But having to know their argument just as well as they do, and being able to cause doubt, that’s key in my opinion.

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GQD_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ask them stuff like OK so who wrote the 4K post Q posts?

Basement Larp or trump insider?

Is trump aware of Q? Does trump at times sit side by side w Q and write posts under the q name?

Why did the media attack and smear Q on a steady basis for 4 years yet ONLY MADE A HUGE POINT TO ASK TRUMP right before the election?

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deplorable333 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Excellent points!!! Thank you so much!

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Lasoukia 3 points ago +3 / -0

The thing I find really interesting about transgenderism is how exactly do you know what a being a wo/man feels like? Ask ten men (or women) what it feels like to be a man, I'm sure you'll get ten different answers. It's literally impossible to know what another person "feels" like because there are so many different things, experiences, feelings, biological stuff, that goes into it. The only thing a tranny can go by is their own stereotypes of what the other gender "should" be. Women have long hair, so I'll grow my hair long. Guess I wasn't a woman for most of my life since I had a short pixie cut?

Ask him why he wants to box genders into rigid boxes of male/female instead of allowing a spectrum of gender? Girls can get down and dirty and still be girls. Men can be flamboyant and still be men.

#SaveTheTomBoys

[ In terms of debate, don't attack or be defensive, ask questions and let the other person dig their grave. Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. ]

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propertyofUniverse 3 points ago +3 / -0

How about predicting the assertions which you might make, and those which they might make and have some supporting links / facts available in a text file ready.,

such as:

You: Trans people are unhappy, they have high incidence of mental health issues and need to have therapy available to them.

Them: Waaah splutter splutter you racist etc....

response : link 1, link 2, link 3 stats.

You: there are only two genders except for rare developmental cases

Them: Waaah splutter splutter you racist etc....

response : biological definition links, including the exceptions like XXY, intersex etc.

that kind of thing

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conservativeyuppie 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't go on the defensive, don't allow yourself to get emotional (because they WILL try to instigate that).

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Kilowatt2066 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well once the y call you a racist or other foul names you will know you have already won the debate.

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CovfefeNegro 2 points ago +2 / -0

Leftists never 'debate', they are never interested in reason or logic or facts or science or God or Society or the Rule of Law or ethics or... anything except Agenda. Hatred and ignorances run their minds, not Peace and Joy and Serenity and Kindnesses...

No matter any 'points' you make they will not understand or care, you can not expect any sort of defined parameters which resemble any concept of 'fairness' or objectivity, only goal-post moving and declarations of racism and phobias yet unknown and Trump.

If it were me I'd go in determined to mock them, make fools of them, not try to prove any logical point or show proofs of any allegations or premises offered. I'd tell them facts don't matter but if they did only two genders would exist, that sort of thing.

I'd hit them from their flanks, stick and move.

Don't expect sanity or common sense to exist.

https://files.catbox.moe/j6y3mm.jpeg

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Kilowatt2066 2 points ago +2 / -0

Be prepared for a melt down though, leftist can't handle true facts.

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Blind-fury 2 points ago +2 / -0

Never talk to demons.

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lash 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can ask if gender is a social construct, why the need for surgery?

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ToxicLibertyism 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was thinking of bringing up cold hard facts, like the 240,000 sealed indictments, or the 2000+ resigned CEO's...

240,000 sealed indictments mean nothing at all in a political sense. We don't know what those are actually for, therefore not facts of anything. Same with 2,000 CEO's. People leave jobs everyday. Means nothing without reasons behind them leaving being factually known.

Best way to debate leftists is to debate actual policy. They got nothing there. Force them to discuss what policies, and laws they like, and don't like, and force them to explain their positions. Things like border security, election safeguards against fraud, taxes, defunding police, censorship...etc.

If you do that, expect them to retaliate with nastiness, and personal attacks to deflect away from the issues. Don't lower yourself to that level, but do call out the fact that they are trying to avoid discussing the actual policy differences between left/right. Good luck.

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cantMAGAanyharder 1 point ago +1 / -0

One time, I posted about my youtube and put a link, some faggot here had a real problem with it and threw a massive fit of faggotry.

Where are you little fag?

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ditzee58 1 point ago +1 / -0

Biology shows: XX XY There are others but note they all pertain to females: XXX = extra X chromosome in each cell Tetrasomy X (female with 4 copies of XX instead of 1 pair) Pentasomy X (female with 5 X chromosomes) This is all you need. If the trans says, "I feel blah, blah, blah, - sorry but feelings don't matter when it comes to biology.

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SSConservativePride 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want to change my answer. Ask horns if "she" would be afraid to identify as as cis straight white male. Ask if they would have any fear about that. Likely will tell you something like "not afraid but I wouldn't want to identify as that" ask "why not" likely will get "I don't want to be part of the problem" Then they have admitted that they would be perceived by other as part of the problem hence they would be treated differently hence they actually would be afraid. Maybe horns just says "no" would identify as that if were true and then you would give them respect.

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LoganAct 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ask for their pronounces first.

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CMAnon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tell them no debate until they retract their statements and restore your Twitter and youtube accounts. You will not debate intolerant people who are not interested in honesty and both sides of an issue. If and when the time comes where you are on equal footing in a neutral forum, you'll participate.

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FondueFerret 1 point ago +1 / -0

What's the debate about?

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Q

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FondueFerret 1 point ago +1 / -0

Have you watched their previous videos? Do they debate fairly and respectfully ? Are they open to having their minds changed on certain things? If not, it's kind of futile.

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jack_trades 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here's advice:

Why do you believe in Q? What convinced you?

Because what you're doing here is debating the idea of Q, a debate is not a fight against each other as people, it's about the topic itself.

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Kilowatt2066 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can argue all you want with them, but until they are willing to do some true research of their own to prove you wrong or them right you will more than likely achieve nothing from it. Leftist are allergic to the truth.

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MaidInAmerica 1 point ago +2 / -1

Awesome!

Practice

Be calm, be kind. Breath. Re-state the question if necessary, this is an opportunity for a connection,. Is your intended outcome is their awakening? Know your intended outcome, always.

Thank them for the debate, it is only in a society that practices free debate that all can be heard, and an understanding reached.

I urge a pre-agreed upon time limit overall, and the topics you will cover. Get organized and agree on the rules, then come back for more advice from everyone. More debates can be had if it all goes well. You be more organized then the are.

You may both want a couple minutes on why you’re there debating. You know better, what caused you to see, why is it important to you to be heard? Listen to your opposition, and maybe in your debates on the topics you can weave in how your position addresses their concerns.

I urge you to make money one of the topics, most people relate...

Let’s follow the money....

Federal reserve and IRS are not government institutions, fractional reserve banking. Debt is interest on the creation of nothing. Always blame the bankers. The bankers need to become the image of slavery.

1913 Jeckyl Island, a brief overview.

What doesn’t make sense about the money?

How is there a federal income tax on labor, isn’t that slavery? Why do they think you giving up your time is income, rather than a trade?

Income by the feds to be by tariffs.

1.9T bailout, point out where the money went, crazy gender studies on I forget what. How much went to the people?

How much went to blue, failing states, like NY? Why is NY giving $15,600 pymt s to illegal aliens. Did the citizens get that much? Is there a connection w NY bailout money from the fed and the $15k payments to illegals?

What about the infrastructure stimulus, only 6% to infrastructure. Where is the rest going? How is it laundered?

Where did all the BLM money go? Did the DC chapter keep it?

George Soros is not their friend.

What about GameStop?

Congress salary about $150k a year, yet most are making millions. How does that happen?

When they call you conspiracy theorist, tell them that’s a conditioned response. If they provide a narrative that’s conditioned, they’ll them it’s a conditioned response.

I would like to see us make “conditioned response” as common as “racist” or “conspiracy theorist” until these people wake up.

Practice, cool, calm, kind.

Predict their response to the topics, be prepared.

Get your topics and timelines, come back!

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pearlrevolver 1 point ago +1 / -0

Watch a "Change my Mind" episode from Louder With Crowder. He does several segments one of which is "There's only 2 genders...change me mind". You can watch them on Youtube.

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axiy 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they ask about the legitimacy of Q, remember to bring up some of the most undeniable Q proofs.

You can find several in the 'Book of Q Proofs' (https://files.catbox.moe/fjoyqd.pdf), the best one is the No Name 1 month death date delta (page 603 to 607 of that document if you're more curious). I recommend giving that document a good read for preparation. This theory is further supported by Kasich stating "John McCain was put to death". (https://youtu.be/cvUyCaKo86E?t=305)

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numina18 1 point ago +2 / -1

Is the debate about politics or the fact that this man is pretending to be a woman? Maybe you should go there. Since he is living in his own fantasy world, maybe he is not the best person to uncover the fantasy and lies promoted by the lefties. They are liars all the way, and so is he. And don't say "their" when it should be "his", because you are playing their (the lefties') game. No PC moves at all. Be normal. He is a he, and he can take estrogen forever, but still has male DNA. Next question?

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Bananahammock12345 1 point ago +1 / -0

Someone get this guy a “McEnany Binder”

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50_stars_for_freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep focus on cold hard evidence. I’d pick the ones you have the most and best evidence for and look again at it all so it’s fresh and you have the links.

Is the debate topic on anything in particular?

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deplorable333 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

On whether Trump Will come back as president. That whats he makes fun of me for.

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50_stars_for_freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah well there isn’t a guarantee of that.

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deplorable333 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

About Q

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50_stars_for_freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q proofs are fun to go through.

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OKRancher 1 point ago +1 / -0

Go with emotions. If these people were logical they wouldn’t think the way they do. Use undisputed facts to illicit strong emotions.

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CMAnon 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're trying to show how nice and gentle anons are? cold facts? Listen, first I'd never debate on their terms, on their ground. Instead, call them out. Ask why is the left is so afraid of what you have to say that they shut down your Twitter and youtube accounts? Why are they soooo afraid of information? In this setting you should not take the bait. If they want to have an honest debate they restore all your accounts, retract the BS namecalling, etc. which they'll never do. That's how you know they're not interested in what you have to say. So, why go into the lions den to serve as their amusement?

And grow a pair. Quit trying to play nice. Call they hypocrites for closing down your channels then saying they want to debate. Fuck that. They want to tie your hands behind your back and challenge you to a "fair fight". Tell them to fuck off.

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Zi0ns_walls 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't imagine it will be a debate we are accustomed to.

They don't care about facts, truth or even that someone with a differing opinion might be right.

It'll be easier talking to a wall, but then again I don't know your competitor.

If you know what topics you will be discussing it will be easy to find out their position on them and go armed with the counter arguments.

I bet your YT channel got taken down by their viewers.

Edit: looked at his channel comments and all the replies are personal attacks but not really any arguments. Don't expect much logic but a narrative and talking points with sly insults.

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deplorable333 [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

My channel will come down soon, I have accepted that. I am moving to frankspeech.com

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Zi0ns_walls 1 point ago +1 / -0

The debate will definitely go towards the election fraud, brush yourself up on the events that happened.

Watch Mike lindells docs 'absolute proof' and 'scientific proof.'

Also ask him what he pisses with