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posted 4 years ago by SpeakEasy (context) 4 years ago by SpeakEasy +341 / -1
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– CokeOrPepe 67 points 4 years ago +67 / -0

Good find.

Edit: I’m still not taking this shot.

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– carriemcgavock 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

Nor I.

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– SaltyBrit 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Nor I

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– Ogcarvattack 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

nor I

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– oPoLoMo 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Nor I.

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– AzTrumplican 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I am. Oh wait, Nor I.

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– Mcmurdo32 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

If I did take it, it would be the Johnson and Johnson if available. As I understand it, theirs is more traditional, and I haven't caught their guys out advocating for depopulation. Also, the fact that Biden's people seem to be against them indicates that the J and J people at least mean well and aren't out trying to manipulate the world.

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– ElectionPredictor 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

There's nothing traditional about it, fren...

Instead of injecting a fatty covered blob containing the gene-altering mRNA instructions, the only difference is the J&J contains a manufactured pseudo-virus, which will attack your cells, and program those cells to activate the same mRNA instructions. It's not very different at all. Certainly not a traditional vaxx in any sense of the word.

Stay away from all COVID vaccines. Take a Vitamin D supplement, 1000% better option. <3

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– ItsaMeMary 10 points 4 years ago +11 / -1

J and J, traditional as in full of abominable things like aborted fetal cells? J and J willingly sold products that they knew caused cancer, like their BABY powder.

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– sukebandeka 4 points 4 years ago +8 / -4

It does not contain aborted fetal cells. This is the exact same thing as the "OMG COKE CONTAINS ABORTED FETAL CELLS" rubbish.

In the testing, they use lab created replicated human fetal cell lines. It's an "immortal" cell, that is replicated - the one used in the vaccines is PER.C6. It's from yes - an aborted or miscarried fetus from... 1985 - a collection of cells from a 36-year-long dead fetus.

They replicate the cell-line. The original cells collected act as a blue print for the cell lines in current use.

That absolutely does not mean that the vaccine CONTAINS aborted fetal cells. The cell LINE was used in testing. In a lab setting.

Maybe you object to the fact that a baby died in 1985 or that it was maybe aborted - though no one knows why it was aborted, it was likely a medical reason in 1985 - but the vaccine does.not.contain.aborted.fetal.cells.

The J&J one is an AD26 vector-based vaccine. It has a much safer profile than mRNA ones. mRNA is untested. That is why the J&J one is being slandered so much. There's much to malign with vaccines, however if you want one to be prolific and safely in the community, the J&J one is the best, hands down.

Turn your anger and research towards mRNA vaccines.

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– ItsaMeMary 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

They do contain Human DNA from aborted babies that have been rendered immortal, which is why the cell line is listed in the ingredients in the insert, and they have used many more than just two willingly aborted fetuses in the research of vaccines, and there's other cell lines which contain said aborted babies. Go get your cocktail. Vaccines also contain pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brains, dog kidneys, cow hearts, and so forth. Read an insert, or go ahead and find another study that glorifies vaccines.

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– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There are no cells on the listed ingredients for any of the coronavirus vaccines.

Indeed, there are no cells, blood, kidneys, hearts or or any animal DNA or anything remotely close listed as ingredients in any of the coronavirus vaccines. There is also no reason to believe that any of those ingredients are in there and NOT listed. There is no evidence whatsoever to support any of these ideas or beliefs.

Please do independent research before spreading disinformation. Just because its bad, doesn't mean every fear mongering thing ever said about it is true.

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– ItsaMeMary 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ok

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– sukebandeka 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

No.

They actually don't but whatever, keep making this autistic argument. It just makes anti-vaxxers look retarded. I hate vaccines, there are SO many better arguments but this lame "muh religious distaste for abortions" one is the absolute worst one. It's circular and quacks like Deisher make the movement look like dunces.

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– wisconsheepgirl 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Still fetal cells. Of course it is replicated. How else do you get millions of cells for a line. A child was aborted. The timing of when the children were aborted matters not.

Using anything with at its origin, products from abortion is morally wrong. It is reprehensible. Made worse that you attempt to defend it.

You know. That makes you (if you knowingly and willfully) guilty.

Most importantly, God knows.

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– 1Markseeker 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

You overlook infanticide in the Bible. Was around looong before modern abortions appeared. See Canaanite baby sacrifice, the events surrounding Moses' birth, the events surrounding Jesus's birth, etc...Also see Levitical protection of the unborn.

"it's funny that Christians put their own morality onto what "God" said."

You, ironically, fall victim to the very thing you accuse others of doing.

"A life being immortalized as a cell line is turning misfortune into fortune. It's the epitome of preciousness."

This is evil logic. "Lets kill this innocent life here in order to save this life over here." Yeah makes sense.

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– sukebandeka 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't care about the bible.

The "bible" was molested by a bunch of Jews to become something it wasn't. It was used as a social control device. It wasn't the true word of God. It was the word of people who sought to control society, who interpreted what they felt was the word of God.

Modern people have taken God from a loving creator and turned him into a judgmental, spiteful Sky Daddy who they pray to to solve their problems for them. Like some kinda Genie.

He's the energy of creation and the love and acceptance of nature in all its forms, good and bad.

See, there you are, being judgmental and expecting to use the words of God to back you up.

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– wisconsheepgirl 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

You are too dim-witted to continue any sort of dialogue.

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– Suckitreddit 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you. Great explanation of omnipotent stem cell line utilization.

This is actual common useage and science and technology.

Misunderstanding finer points allows all other arguments we have to be dismissed and ridiculed. It’s fine to debate stem cell research purely...but to conflate that argument with the covid injectables makes for a weak argument. We must be a crucible for strong arguments to go forth in the fray.

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– sukebandeka 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

Yeah, like people can be anti-stem cell, but I think the most precious gift from "god" or a life or whatever you wish to call it, IS saving the lives of others.

You know... sorta what SkyDaddy did with his only son.

Not that we should go out and abort at will, but if it has to be done, then make the best of it. Don't let it be in vain etc.

People miss the messaging because they're so hyper-focused on X BAD, Y BAD, Z Immoral.

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– 1Markseeker 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

"SkyDaddy"

There you are, you little New Atheist you. You also call Yahweh the Flying Spaghetti Monster too? You wear a colander on your head too?

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– ItsaMeMary 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26103708

published on PubMed that has the Conslusion stated as: Vaccines manufactured in human fetal cell lines contain unacceptably high levels of fetal DNA fragment contaminants. It is not secret.

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– sukebandeka 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Ah...

Theresa A Deisher. Ms Deisher isn't exactly a good source. She has an agenda to push and she's never backed up her research.

Again, it's not how the vaccines are manufactured. As much as I dislike vaccines, you're just plain incorrect on this and people like Desisher and those who parrot her BS make the anti-vax movement look like drooling retards because they are trying so hard to confirm their bias they end up tying themselves in knots.

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– 1Markseeker 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Instead of continuing to call the Anti-Vax crowd "drooling retards," why don't you present the good arguments for not getting vaxxed that you say are so lacking from this said crowd? We've got our eye on you...your language is very telling.

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– sukebandeka 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No. See, you misconstrued what I said - I said that idiots who don't absorb facts and just regurgitate non-sense make the MOVEMENT look like drooling retards.

I'm very pro-anti-vax. I just do not like when people get their facts twisted. It makes everyone else look as stupid as they are.

Maybe brush up on that comprehension there, before you insult next time.

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– wisconsheepgirl 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

1Markseeker --

u/sukebandeka think he/she is an intellectual.

He/she does not even have a foundation in philosophy of any kind. As he/she is devoid of anything to ground him/her, they lack any sort of moral compass.

Clearly he/she are intentional time wasters.

My opinion, of course.

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– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Can you provide evidence that the adenovirus vaccines have a safer profile? All I have seen is just less data.

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– sukebandeka 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Compared to mRNA vaccines, they have a safer profile and a proven track record.

There will always be outliers, but most testing cohorts have demonstrated that AD vaccines are acceptable.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-020-00243-x - scroll down to :

We have previously shown that vaccines based on transgenes that are delivered by recombinant replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 vectors (Ad26) have an acceptable safety profile in humans and are able to induce neutralizing and binding antibodies, CD4 and CD8 T cell responses and a Th1-biased immune response in animals and humans22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33. Furthermore, the availability of industrialized and scalable manufacturing processes makes this an attractive platform for vaccine development.

To see the referenced studies for yourself.

I am not pro-vaccine or pro-covid vaccine, but the sheer stupidity on here when it comes to interpreting data and molesting it to become a confirmation bias fuckfest is embarrassing.

The mRNA carrier vaccines are not safe. If the MSM and assholes alike are pushing mRNAs then they are probably not that much of a good idea.

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– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you very much for the reference. I will read the paper. There appear to be some relevant pre-2020 references in there as well, which I consider to be a very good thing.

but the sheer stupidity on here when it comes to interpreting data and molesting it to become a confirmation bias fuckfest is embarrassing.

I couldn't agree more. I feel like I'm playing Whack O' Mole most of the time. Your efforts are very much appreciated.

If the MSM and assholes alike are pushing mRNAs then they are probably not that much of a good idea.

I do not think this is a good input metric for decision making. This to me is little better than listening to them in earnest. They are just two different ways of handing over critical thinking to known liars.

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– sukebandeka 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

In regards to your last point - have a look at the Atlantic's gloat article on J&J. It's enough to make your stomach turn. This is the narrative they're going with, for whatever reason.

I suspect that reason is $. AD26 is "cheaper" to make because they have the facilities en masse. mRNA is something they can charge a premium for. If people like the Atlantic are gloatpushing it, its usually because $ has exchanged hands.

I don't like Pfizer's extremely aggressive practices when it comes to suppressing studies and influencing. They've spent a lot of money influencing a lot of other markets, suppressing studies and buying journalists/influencers - at great cost to not only customers, but science itself. Not only that, they've used $ and influence to cover up issues with their products - issues resulting in injury and death.

It's not a scientific metric to judge them on, no, but it's a a very reliable observational/psychological one. Behavior you get away with, is behavior you repeat.

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– Infidel440 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It’s 99.97% survivable, why on earth would you consider ANY vaccine?

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– Mcmurdo32 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not really. Not considering any of the other issues, I am thinking of this on the level of flu shots, and the only time I got those was when I worked in MRDD residential facilities long ago.

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– Infidel440 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Only time I’ve gotten a flu shot was when forced by the military.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Drop 4245 made POTUS’ statements about the vaccine/OWS make far more sense to me.

“HOW DO YOU TRAP [INSTALL MEDICAL ADVISORS_SKY_IS_FALLING] POTUS INTO ENDORSEMENT OR FACE WW MEDICAL-SCIENCE-MEDIA FULL ASSAULT?”

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– wisconsheepgirl 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because Trump statement uses quotes at beginning and end of statement, I say Trump is quoting someone and not making a Trump statement. Those do not have quotes.

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– ApplesOrangesLemons 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Several possibilities:

  1. Trump didn't write that and it was doctored. I'm not seeing the post on https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news but could be slow.

  2. Trump read the NY Post article and is quoting it. Notice the quotes in the release statement.

  3. Author of NY Post article is secretly Trump.

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– ApplesOrangesLemons 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

One more thing to add, I think #1 is most likely. The statement, "... it's sheer lunacy to delay millions of vaccinations and feed fears among the vat-resistant", makes it sound like Trump wants everyone to get vaccinated, which I highly doubt. He knows the vaccine only has an EUA and that not everyone can get it because of their health conditions.

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– Stoplooklisten 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So even if wasn’t the author he agreed with it?

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– Kamalas_a_Bitch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It appears that is not a Trump statement and this one is:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america_22

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– FormerLibtard94 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This one is similar but not the same https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america_22

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– ApplesOrangesLemons 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Also to add, Trump's original post on J&J vaccine was different and posted here:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america_22

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– Cyphr 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Correct. People here are confused. Jenna Ellis copy/pasted a NY Post article into her tweet, and sent it out under the banner of President Trump's office.

President Trump DID NOT say or write those words - the author of the NY Post article did. Where is the attribution of the original NY Post author in the Jenna Ellis tweet? That is what is confusing people, and Jenna Ellis is apparently an idiot.

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– ClitYeastwood 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Thanks for the tag. The only thing that still bugs me is that Jenna Ellis claims it's legit.

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1383209542754967555?s=20

But how much insider intel does she really know? I feel like she could be just for disinfo and distraction. There's no way she has the same clearance level as people like Pompeo and DeSantis. Those two guys are the ones I trust who actually knows what's really going on.

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– RedneckLawyer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Why in the world would you believe Desantis has clearance at federal level lmao?

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– ClitYeastwood 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

bad wording. Clearance as in they're in close contact with POTUS and working close with him all the time. He has more access to talking to Trump than someone like Jenna Ellis. Just look at all the decisions he's been making. He clearly knows what he's doing and there's nothing DS can do to stop him. Of course DeSantis doesn't have clearance from the Biden team but that's a fake presidency.

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– DroppsaDuece 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Bad wording, but Governors do have pretty high Fed clearance.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

FWIW, there were people claiming Ellis was a bought and paid for plant on Trump’s legal team. I didn’t look into those claims that closely but they do exist.

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– Muscleup12 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Bro this is easy, the Post editorial board posts are correlate to pro trump.. They are probably running the board/post to a certain extent or forcing them too

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– Nice_n_tangy 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Lends creedence to the theory that Trump let Biden be declared the winner of the election intentionally. I was not happy with the Post for that shit and quit reading.

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– Revrant 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I love Trump but every time I see some pro jab discussion come from him or his team tge more I worry that he isn't quite who we are all hoping.... And I hope that's not true, but it does introduce a large dose of skepticism, more than just about anything else.

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– MikeOhio 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'm not taking it either! They want you to take the mRNA shot because your body won't be able to defend itself from a second infection. Too many people were taking the J&J shot. It is bad, but not anywhere near as "bad"

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– ElectionPredictor 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

While I do think you're right, they want the sheeple to get the Pf/Mod ones. The J&J is not much different at all.

Instead of injecting a fatty covered blob containing the gene-altering mRNA instructions, the only difference is the J&J contains a manufactured pseudo-virus, which will attack your cells, and program those cells to activate the same mRNA instructions. It's not very different at all. Certainly not a traditional vaxx in any sense of the word. Don't understand why the "big guy" keeps suggesting any of them either. ("If you don't have anything good to say...")

Stay away from all COVID vaccines. Take a Vitamin D supplement, 1000% better option. <3 Tell friends and loved ones.

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– Suckmedry 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Last statement on Trump's website is from Wednesday.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america_24

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– wisconsheepgirl 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because Trump statement uses quotes at beginning and end of statement, I say Trump is quoting someone and not making a Trump statement. Those do not have quotes.

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– MagnificentSteine 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Why is this not more upvoted. Trump literally just linked the article. Basically a retweet. Cmon people

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They should stop all gene therapy shots right now!!

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– anon123456789 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Trump statement fake news. It’s a fake screenshot labeled with the date 4/16/21 going around. I went to his site to confirm and it wasn’t there.

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– cyber_saiyan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They're part of the plan.

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– MagaMan1776 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There are legitimate quotation marks on the Official Trump Statement, so he's quoting this article and not citing his source.

In high school I would have gotten marked down for plagiarism lmao

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– djmarcone 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

bribe from the other jab makers? insufficient bribes from J+J? J+J not producing the desired "results" AKA side effects, hidden or otherwise? Creating false sense of unavailability, IE reverse psychology?

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– sidhe007 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Wouldn't it be great to see a forensic audit of all these pharma companies done by those 2 guys who are after the Clnton's?

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– MagnificentSteine 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Cmon guys.. let's start using our heads again. It was a direct quote from the article and then a link to said article. IE all Trump did was link the article. Nothing crazy or secret about it ffs -_-

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– OkieBowhunter 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Damn, that's based!

Still not taking it.

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– wittleittle 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Its the only non-mrna for the sheep and they want to push it off a cliff leaving pfizer and moderna. However fuck taking any of them

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– ditzee58 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

NOPE

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– emptychairday 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't believe the press release for President Trump's. He wouldn't say "jab".

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– Ogcarvattack 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

if this is a direct quote from trump and he did say this originally this would be maybe the 3rd thing i completely disagree with him on.

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– ChristineAnne 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

That's pretty amazing. The Post is pretty good and if it weren't for the R rated content, I'd subscribe again @ $1/week. Still no shot for me

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