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DontTreadOnIT 56 points ago +56 / -0

And if they can push data into your phone (which they absolutely can) then it becomes real easy for the DS to frame anyone they want.

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pedeITA 29 points ago +29 / -0

This is the point, we can implant data remotely in devices since years, there are hundreds of different methods to do so, here instead, it's even easier, they could potentially just plant something on their cloud side (iCloud), and if you have sync (if not they have anyway backdoors so...), it could be auto sync'ed / downloaded and hidden in your phone

Then when come, they'll will know exactly on which device and which file they are coming for

There are forensic ways to prove it's not your file and stuffs (CRC/Fingerprint/etc), but that's something geeks or field dedicated lawyers do know, 99% of the population would be literally fucked up without knowing what is happening and why

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Based_in_Space 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yes I am wondering if there is a positive attribution system that can be put on a phone to prove you didn’t put that on your phone when they come to do a frame job

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pedeITA 9 points ago +9 / -0

Well there are basic things like the timestamp (but could be manipulated at a file system level if you know how), metadata, signatures (source os / current os), CRC values, fingerprints, and a few more on the digital side, and other stuffs on the logical (RAM / buffers / cells / etc)

An example, normally, first thing that the police does when they size a media, is to connect it tru a write-blocker device, even before imaging/cloning it, reason for is that if you simply plug up a hard drive taken from another system, it will do some stuffs between the BIOS and the OS and write some data (nothing that the user sees, hardware and software level stuffs), and the first thing one could do, would be to have a whole drive CRC match that would dismiss the proof, as the CRC it's a unique hash generated every time something changes (even a bit), so the write-blocker prevents physically any possible write command to the drive, same principle applies for a file

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huntfishpede 2 points ago +2 / -0

THIS is what needs to be taught in schools, not sex education.

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Based_in_Space 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting, thanks

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SomeRandomGuy77 5 points ago +5 / -0

None whatsoever, the phone service company has root over your device, that's how they push OS updates to it. They can send RATs and CP to your phone, forget timestamping the file, they can timestamp the write to the HDD itself.

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TheMAGAnificent 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is my thoughts on The Vegas shooters brother. Law enforcement found child porn in his computer just days after the shooting and he was immediately taken away.

The vault 7 WikiLeaks prove that CIA has technology where they can leave a trail of metadata that makes it appear that you searched, downloaded, transfered, stored, etc illegal material, this giving law enforcement a case during a forensic audit.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good thing my icloud is full 24/7 lol

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TitoshandmadePatriot 18 points ago +18 / -0

Apple has already shown they do that, if anyone remembers them forcing music albums into peoples playlists.

I've noticed songs on my android i've never downloaded or listened to as well

https://www.eonline.com/news/1071481/remember-when-apple-forced-a-u2-album-on-us-all

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kish-kumen 16 points ago +16 / -0

Push Data is already happening all the time with mobile system updates.

Also, plenty of people are required to have some form of push authentication to log into their work site from home, replacing a USB key authentication.

In my case, my phone requires a "push authentication" app in place of a HASP Key/dongle when I work remotely in order to use the licensed software used by our organization.

It's a giant security threat (on a personal level) , and I refused to use it on my personal phone. Wouldn't work remotely until they provided me with a company-paid mobile phone. And even THAT bothers me. I know powering it down DOESN'T actually "turn it off", as pulling the battery alerts the IT guys (but turning the phone off doesn't, wtf?)

Big brother can watch you easily enough. Privacy is near-dead.

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SomeRandomGuy77 3 points ago +3 / -0

Whilst I agree with everything you said too many people forget you can wrap the thing in literal tin foil.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

So just never use your phone? lol

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pearlrevolver 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't have a cell phone and I'm a 28 year old female. It is possible. Yes whenever anyone finds out they think I'm nuts. I wouldn't mind keeping a jitterbug or something in my car for emergencies, I just haven't gotten around to getting one because I detest cell phones so much. It's great when no one can get a hold of you to cover their shift at work and you never have to deal with spam calls. I keep running shoes in the trunk in case my car breaks down.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol running shoes :)

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SomeRandomGuy77 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, given the choice of that or never ever being someone of interest to the government, it seems most people are rolling with the latter. Everyone thought the kremlin was a bit mad dropping computers entirely and going to typewriters, doesn't seem so silly now though.

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queue-anon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or we need to start standing up as a nation and make the govt fear us. Whether that is through nationwide worker strikes or protests. Sick of them taking over our lives.

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SomeRandomGuy77 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, well before I was banned on various platforms I was telling them "We'll see who is prepared to get extremely violent about it won't we". Not sure how many read and understood but hopefully made a couple people stop and think.

Forcing people to do things means violence if they don't want to do it, responding to violence with greater violence is self defense.

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kish-kumen 1 point ago +1 / -0

True! Lol

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Itscrazytime 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hmmm I wonder if this is how they keep all the politicians in line.

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queue-anon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Indeed. The ones that dont' willingly participate.

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GunToast [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Correct. They will be able to watch and frame you as they please.

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Based_in_Space 10 points ago +10 / -0

Could work both ways, prosecute their enemies and also protect their cabal pedo buddies by creating doubt on if someone is guilty or innocent of possessing pics. They could say “hey I was hacked on they must be put those on there to frame me.”

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RedPillRGV 26 points ago +26 / -0

Pedos should be hung, not debating that. However, how easy will it be to simply change the focus from looknig for pedo info, to looking for evidence of extremism which is subjective depending on who are the watchmen. Corps and programmers can simply forward your information simply for having memes, pepes, q anon material, etc... They weren't building up that "extremism" ops for nothing.

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teppischfresser 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's what I said too. It starts with this, but then it will be tax evasion! They couldn't get us on this stuff, but they'll find something, even if they plant it on your phone.

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SomeRandomGuy77 3 points ago +3 / -0

The nuance here friend is how sure you are pedos should be hung if the only evidence you have on them is 4 seemingly random CP images inserted onto their phone.

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6daysandrest 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't worry. When 1 photo isn't enough the DS will simply put a gig or two on your phone just to be thorough.

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Plebbitimmigrant 18 points ago +18 / -0

Please note. They’ve probably been able to do so for years. This is just publicly announcing this fact.

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anotherdream 10 points ago +10 / -0

No way this will be allowed to stand. - Isn't it also so transparent that they are weaponizing "PEDO hate" to try and build a case for its justification? - This will have to be shut down. There are other ways to catch disgusting pedos. This is just bullshit. Apple has been slowly nudging FB out of the picture, and now they want to pick up where they left off. - BTW, I trust Apple about as much as I trust FB = not at all. What's to stop them from planting CP on your phone or computer and going after you. All it would probably take (in their dystopian nightmare future woketopia) is a critical comment about Trans or Gay people. - All of the sudden, you're a fucking Pedo, your phone is filled with CP, and the swat team is breaking down your door. - No way to prove your innocence whatsoever.

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Mungfatchee 2 points ago +2 / -0

How do we stop it? Who won't let it stand? Does someone need to have the $$$ to be able to take them to court? Not sure I trust the courts......

Seems more like this is a decision made, and since announced, is unlikely to be changed.

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AndrewJaqqson 9 points ago +9 / -0

this is why i stopped updating my iOS software years ago. i knew they were getting more and more invasive of privacy over the years. i recommend everyone else to stop updating their iOS as well, and just stick with the basics

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Sadness 4 points ago +4 / -0

I turned it off earlier this year, plus I set all apps to private. However, is it still possible for them to force the spyware onto my phone? I wonder.

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escapefromearth 9 points ago +9 / -0

Solution: Backup your shit and get rid of your smart phone. Stop giving these ass holes the money that gives them the power to oppress you.

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wwg1wg69 0 points ago +1 / -1

Sadly many people's work requires a smartphone. It's hard to get shit done if you travel for work without a portable device, could take a laptop but is that really any more secure than a smartphone? Bill Gates' windows is hardly worth trusting...

At the end of the day Trump uses an iPhone regularly so I feel I can use it

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chase_now 7 points ago +7 / -0

This seems a way to get the foot in the door. How soon until it is used against patriots for thought crimes of having the truth of election fraud, vaccine dangers ect. It doesn't even need to be overt they can ding your credit score, deny your college application or shadow ban your social media because your name shows up on a secret list they share.

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into_the_continuum 3 points ago +3 / -0

In other words, the contents of your hard drive are going to determine your social credit score.

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queue-anon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guess i better acid wash my Hard drives, like with a cloth.

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raver9876 7 points ago +7 / -0

I know most people forget to do this but if you turn off iCloud photos syncing aren’t the photos on your device still private and secure?

In other words, as long as you don’t send all your photos up to the cloud, Apple does not have the ability to look at them. They’re not remotely logging into your phone and looking at your photos on your phone. They are looking at copies of your photos that you sent to their iCloud servers.

If you don’t want that to happen turn off iCloud photo syncing. However, this will limit the number of photos you can store on your phone if you have a phone with a small storage capacity (16, 32 or 64 GB)

My user tip is to always buy the phone or iPad with the largest storage capacity you can afford. I have an iPad with 512 GB and I’m very happy because I can store as many downloaded movies and music onto it as I want to. The movie streaming service that I pay for allows me to temporary download entire movies which makes them much easier to watch as I can avoid buffering issues.

Having extra storage also allows me to do video screen recordings for any videos that I want to save to my iPad. This allows me to save YouTube videos permanently to my device even if they decide to censor or erase that video later. If I use YouTube’s download option, that video that I downloaded will be disabled once they censor it.

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_thorn_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which movie service are you running? My paid for the year service just went down on me : /

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raver9876 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m in mainland China so I’m using a couple of Chinese App movie streaming services.

I’m assuming they’re blocked outside of China and even if they weren’t you would need to use Chinese payment systems and be able to reach Chinese to use them.

Most Chinese services are probably half the cost of Netflix. Given that they are full of a bunch of Chinese movies that I don’t wanna watch it’s not the greatest value in the world.

The best thing about them is that I don’t need a VPN and I can download an entire movie in about two minutes within mainland China.

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SomeRandomGuy77 1 point ago +1 / -0

aren’t the photos on your device still private and secure?

They're as secure as any device with hardware backdoors and a software ring 0 authorisation has. So long as Apple can update and install shit to your phone without you knowing, along with certain service providers, then you've no reason to assume anything is secure.

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raver9876 1 point ago +1 / -0

Up to now Apple has been pretty good about privacy. They’ve gone back-and-forth with the government over unlocking phones seized from so-called terrorists.

If Apple put in a feature where they could go into anyone’s phone anywhere and start remotely scanning the photos, videos, text messages, location history, notes or the web history on the phone itself, that opens them up to abuse from the NSA or the FBI.

Then these federal agencies would be knocking on Apple door and asking them for remote access to anyone who visited Syria or anyone in DC on January 6th, 2021, for example.

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Vapourface 4 points ago +4 / -0

Surely it gives a plausible get-out-of-jail for anyone who has these things because they can be planted also...

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SomeRandomGuy77 1 point ago +2 / -1

"Dear Jury, despite the testimony of officer dingle fuck who states he's never seen a legitimate case of compromat being used, my client is innocent and that's not his dick in that 7 year old - honestly!".

You're a braver man than I am if you want to leave it to that situation.

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y000danon 4 points ago +4 / -0

I actually worked for Kim Dotcom if you want to know a few things

https://youtu.be/Jc054ALKaxw 😂 this is what his website looked like back then. Skip to the end of the video.

“The Best Website on the Internet” haha

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FreeinFL2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

If we shut off cloud backup will this prevent access?

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raver9876 5 points ago +5 / -0

You don’t have to shut down all of your cloud back up. If you look within the iCloud options, you can turn off iCloud photo syncing. Once you do that your photos are no longer duplicated to the cloud and you will be limited to only saving the photos that fit on your phone.

I’m about 99% sure that this keeps the photos that are on your phone private and secure.

Apple may be OK with scanning copies of your photos that are on their servers but they’re not about to log into your phone and start going through everything on there.

If you want to save your own photos and videos you can always connect your iPhone directly to your computer with a cable and import those photos and videos to your computer.

Another bonus of not using iCloud photos sync is that you reduce your bandwidth usage. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want my 30 minute 4K videos (multi-gigabyte size) sent up to my iCloud using up my cellular data.

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Mungfatchee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most helpful comment I've read yet, thx!

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FreeinFL2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks. I already sync to my pc. I’ll keep doing that

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queue-anon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Usually it only syncs when connected to wifi. There's an option for that and it's on by default.

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raver9876 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I turn on the Wi-Fi only syncing in most apps. That’s the best way to avoid busting your cellular phone data cap. But remember, iCloud also has a data storage cap.

So, another good reason to keep iCloud photo syncing off is that you don’t want to go over your iCloud storage limits. A lot of people are still using the free 5 GB option. I pay for the cheapest 50GB data storage limit and I’m already over 40GB without using any iCloud photo syncing.

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Pbman 3 points ago +3 / -0

I always put black electrical tape on these cameras.

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SomeRandomGuy77 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good idea but red herring anyway, they have enough copies of your face elsewhere on the net under your social security xkeyscore profile to pick from anyway. They don't need your front camera these days unless you've been very careful.

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HotMustard84 2 points ago +2 / -0

Saw something about linux mobile phones, are these more private and worth a purchase?

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Thothbag 2 points ago +2 / -0

Combine that with the mesh net from Alexa and siri etc

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

After reading the comments, this shit is scary.

And it makes me wonder, is this why Q1440 says;

"Blackout necessary"?

The only way to fix a massive framing operation is a WW EMP?

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Mungfatchee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tell me more. False because of doing it, or the porn excuse part?

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InsideMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then they turn on the lidar without telling you and take a 3D model of what’s around you. You know, to protect the children.

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_thorn_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol damn I managed.to forget they have.lidar on phones these days.. man I love my ancient tech 😅

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SFAM1A 1 point ago +1 / -0

Laughs in slider

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magayd45 1 point ago +1 / -0

alright how do we get around this?

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can still get 2g phones. I have this Nokia Feature Phone (just check your network is able to accept 2g signals - many still do.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0876SXM35

They are good for texting and phone calls but no internet and they don't accept images. They do have a camera which is not very good, but it's probably safe from being spied on. I've used one for years in preference to the Android smart phone I have, and they last ages before they need charging.

Or get a cheap Android. But they'll probably do the same thing soon.

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bubble_bursts 1 point ago +1 / -0

News flash: If you use apple iCloud or google Photos they already have that and more

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Tassie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not only that delete history and control history.

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stevethefish76 1 point ago +1 / -0

Time to get one of those Linux phones, frens.

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Dontdoxxxmeplease 1 point ago +2 / -1

Plot twist: don’t upload photos to iCloud.

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AwakeAwareNow 1 point ago +1 / -0

UHM it's illegal to have child porn so how are they going to check your photo against all the child porn photos unless they have child porn on their servers!!!

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SomeRandomGuy77 1 point ago +1 / -0

They make a hash of the CP and compare the hashes, not the actual CP. The CP stays at a police evidence lab.

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GeneralDLC 1 point ago +1 / -0

When is this going into effect??

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Magpi 1 point ago +1 / -0

I like how they're using child porn as a way to get to the heart of all us patriots onboard, we who are dead set on ridding the world of child porn. Don't fall for their tricks. In fact, don't use Apple. Someone on here (or another forum I visit) posted a video of radiation level testing on the iphones and I think all but one was above ACCEPTABLE levels.

I guess the time to go back to old fashioned land lines is almost here. Get a ham radio license and learn morse :D

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TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 1 point ago +1 / -0

If the government cares so much about catching pedos then why'd it take them 20 years to catch Epstein? Why haven't they identifed anyone else involved aside from Maxwell?

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_thorn_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

He was an asset at the time. They are only after us.

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Joebidenisacriminal 1 point ago +1 / -0

This has been going on for a very long time. This is nothing new.

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chicagotrauma -2 points ago +1 / -3

Not on my Motorola