Interesting watch how quickly the narrative gets derailed. In one if the threads they try to convince themselves that the doctor in question is a great guy, it was just bad journalism, and it very quickly ended up debating how far to the left NPR is.
Now I remember why places like reddit are so toxic. Paid professionals whose only job is to muddy the waters are brainwashing people all day long.
I subject myself to this garbage because some of them appear to be legit doctors (I read their posts going back years) and I am terrified of the inevitability that I will need to be under their "care" one day.
I subject myself to this garbage because some of them appear to be legit doctors
I have a hard time knowing who is legit and who is wolf in sheep's clothing. There is one doctor on that thread who claims that every person to whom he gave monoclonal antibodies have died, and some of the other doctors seem to be surprised by this but he is adamant.
I have dug into the post histories and a whole bunch of them showed up or suddenly started posting in that sub in 2016. And the mods somehow have time to perform great medicine /s in COVID chaos while constantly spamming the sub with their woke condescending bullshit.
I am convinced that some high profile players are running it, just like Ghislane Maxwell and James Alefantis were running so much of reddit.
Yeah I agree with what you are saying, thats pretty much what I suspected. I think reddit is even more controlled than we can ever imagine, may God have mercy on the souls of people walking blindly in between those wolves.
I agree, thats what ups the ante. I would have had no problem waiting until, say , 2022 midterms if thats what it took. But not with a scamdemic-vaxxgenocide hanging on our heads.
Holy crap, what the heck did I just read. I knew there were some perverts on Reddit mod list, but this is just crazy. I wonder what you can dig up on N8thegr8 - the guy who launched the crusade against NoNewNormal.
The darkness in which these people breed, hope the light is shined on them so bright that they can be banished for at least a millenium
I wonder how many actual smug retards are even left on plebbit? They must be outnumbered by bots many times over, not to excuse the smug retardation of the flesh and bone bots.
Wow you just educated this Boomer. I never spent much time on there, as I didn't dive-in the early years and whenever I lurked there it was far too left for my taste. I did see the draw to it tho, as there's quite a diverse ecosystem with any interest reflected there. But you nailed it as "toxic" is a perfect descriptor. Great link 👍🏼
What I always think when I read these people so confidently bashing Ivermectin is: how many doctors have you spoken to/listened to who have actual experience of USING the drug - as opposed to people who have decided from perusing secondary sources that they aren't even going to try?
I've spent hours listing to these guys: Hector Carvalla, Jackie Stone, Mobeen Sayed, Pierre Kory, Paul Marek, Darell DeMello, John Ratjer, Shankarra Chetty, Joseph Varon, Bruce Boros, Lenny Da Costa
...and various others whose names escape me. I'd like to know what the critics make of these doctor's 18 months experience using the drug to save the lives of their patients. Forget the observational studies, epidemiological studies, randomised trials, in-vitro research, in-vivo research, in-silico research and meta-analyses which have been done all around the world if you find that they don't meet your expectations with regards to quality and style (conveniently ignoring the fact that its a miracle any research was able to be done at all given the profound difficulties in securing funding). But what can they say about the personal, detailed testimonies of these front-line doctors? Perhaps they are all deluded? Perhaps they have not seen what they claim to have seen, have not experienced what they claim to have experienced....
All I can say is: if these doctors are ALL deluded or lying, the conspiracy they have managed to enact is FAR more convincing that the alternative conspiracy that there are vested financial interests doing all they can to muddy the waters and delay adoption of a highly effective medicine. Big Pharma's spin doctors have got a lot to learn, because so far, their particular spin doesn't hold a candle to the "deluded" testimony and research of the Ivermenctin supporters.
Sorry - rant over. Just makes me ANGRY to think of people suffering unnecessarily.
I used to think my doctor spent a good chunk of time doing what I do: Keeping abreast of his industry, reading papers, catching up with colleagues, etc...
The truth is doctors see patients, day in and day out, and work endless hours seeing patients. Any spare time they have they spend updating charts. Occasionally they have to "download" new programming from insurance companies to figure out how to get paid for some common ailments.
The covid thing has exposed that America's doctors are not worthy of the title anymore. The medical industry is completely broken, and we'd be better off with nothing in most cases.
How do we reset the medical industry? I have some ideas, the first being, get rid of all forms of insurance. Doctors either work for free or they get paid in cash. And let people build medical centers / hospitals wherever they want and let them do whatever they think is best there. If that means turning away the endless hordes of people who have ripped their internal organs in anal sex, along with the drug addicts and homeless, so be it.
Yep this is what I've come to understand. I think there are 2 types of doctor: the kind who deals with difficult decisions by outsourcing it to "trusted" authorities, and the kind who finds the time to investigate personally. I don't blame people for being in the first category - it takes a particular character, as well as the opportunity, to be able to research for yourself, and I think many doctors who might want to investigate personally have been swamped and just trusted that others are doing their jobs properly.
I think part of what is going on might be that we have a system which evolved to manage a public that was poor in information and time. Decision making processes weren't set up to be challenged from multiple random directions, and now that they are being, they can't process the challenges effectively and learn from them. To prevent total collapse and inability to make any decisions at all, I think they've just cut off and censored input channels that they aren't designed to handle.
That's the most charitable hypothesis I can come up with by the way - I have plenty of others which are less so :)
This is the problem w journalism and the left. They are a like a battered person in a relationship. They are in complete denial of reality and sadly locked into that relationship without the ability to escape. When they finally do en masse, and see the world as it is, we call it the “great awakening”.
The pretzel twisting on Reddit to simply comprehend what Rolling stone recently did is sad and entertaining all at once.
They cannot see the simple explanation. Ivermectin was being trashed because any solution to coronavirus must come from leftists czars!! Those 63 studies on C19Ivermectin.com, mostly positive - let’s ingnore them!- says the media. Leftists won’t even flinch. If it wasn’t printed in the WaPo it’s not a source to them.
Hence, the media, to uphold such a disillusioned narrative ala Russia Hoax style, in particular the fake news, utilize confirmation bias, misinfo, disinfo, and lies by omission. Their confirmation biases are more like a confirmation hunts. Except they’re hunting unicorns, which don’t exist, so they NEED to make up the story in its entirety.
When they get called out, like the sham idiots they are, the sheeple subscribers try to understand it with white gloves rather than instantly understand the obvious affliction.
They think to themselves , “it’s ok it’s ok, these are ‘good’ people who made a mistake”.. while others (likely paid professionals) throw in “good news” sources like the NYT wouldn’t do this, btw a complete garbage mill. Then they also conflate Fox News as somehow being to blame for its fakeness as an excuse for RS. These people are sick.
Amusing self-reflection moment; When I started reading purposely opposing news sources I found threads of commonality. From there I started seeing what's been "hiding."
I can't say I overtly believe everything, for instance, what people opposing the vaccine are saying. But the overt response from those trying to oppress it tells me clearly what they're saying shouldn't be trusted whatsoever.
It had made me question the intent and context of what I used to be told, which oddly enough started with Gamergate.
Some faggot smackey keeps spamming the same comments 50x: "I know this doctor. . . He's a guy boi. . . He didn't even say that." Smackey needs to get smacked with a 2x4. Reddit is such a hellhole.
I just checked because i was curious and you are actually right, wtf. He spammed the same message in every single comment chain just plugged it in, and fast too. Its like the 2nd post in every comment chain.
To be honest, I've occasionally clicked on GTA gaming links, but that's it.
Was on reddit from 2005 - 2015. Learned a lot about coffee, how to roast your own and which kind of equipment makes the best cup. But even back then the wokesters were spreading throughout the entire site. Then the Pao happened.
The biggest problem is the lack of dot connecting. They assume the media lied about the story for public safety over Ivermectin, not because they are evil asshats who don’t want us to know about the benefits of the drug. Thats the worst part about that thread.
Can you imagine the adjustment a normie is going to have to make when they realise that all their news sources and their governments have been trying to get them enslaved or killed and that most political and religious constructs are meant to do the same ultimately?
I don't push the dumbasses too hard, but I sure disrespect them and note their lack of intellectual honesty and forthright bravery.
Yet in the rolling stone retraction they repeat the fabricated story as part of the retraction.
They want to make sure you “think” that ivermectin “could” be dangerous.
Natural immunity can't get her out of the arguments? I mean, everybody's been exposed at this point. So if she hasn't gotten sick, she's got natural antibodies, right? Anyway, that argument (not the argument, just the conclusion) worked to get a family member off my back. Hope she stays good.
Well, it worked for me. "I already got it and recovered. I'm naturally immune. Why would I need one?" My sister stopped trying after that, and we talked about other stuff.
I've actually been fortunate in that I am not bothered to take it myself. I just hope this talk of a booster doesn't get them, because at this point I'm just worried about them as is.
Reddit is a burning dung heap. Seriously. I am so glad I left. Reading some of these comments makes me want to vomit. You can tell when someone is making a good argument because they will bring up how you can't listen to them because of their post history or that they are not arguing in "good faith" whatever that means...
My guess is the real people there are completely brainwashed and have no idea the "hive mind" is 90% Chinese bots. They just want to fit in with their "peers."
"if you watch the commercial during the news you can see whos paying for the content... when you see all those drug pharmaceutical commercial u can start to understand why they are favorable to the industry"
Interesting watch how quickly the narrative gets derailed. In one if the threads they try to convince themselves that the doctor in question is a great guy, it was just bad journalism, and it very quickly ended up debating how far to the left NPR is.
Now I remember why places like reddit are so toxic. Paid professionals whose only job is to muddy the waters are brainwashing people all day long.
Astute observations.
I subject myself to this garbage because some of them appear to be legit doctors (I read their posts going back years) and I am terrified of the inevitability that I will need to be under their "care" one day.
Some people watch horror movies. I read r/meddit!
I have a hard time knowing who is legit and who is wolf in sheep's clothing. There is one doctor on that thread who claims that every person to whom he gave monoclonal antibodies have died, and some of the other doctors seem to be surprised by this but he is adamant.
I cant wait for the Show to end, tbh.
I have dug into the post histories and a whole bunch of them showed up or suddenly started posting in that sub in 2016. And the mods somehow have time to perform great medicine /s in COVID chaos while constantly spamming the sub with their woke condescending bullshit.
I am convinced that some high profile players are running it, just like Ghislane Maxwell and James Alefantis were running so much of reddit.
Yeah I agree with what you are saying, thats pretty much what I suspected. I think reddit is even more controlled than we can ever imagine, may God have mercy on the souls of people walking blindly in between those wolves.
Forgive my ignorance, and help me out here, but I knew that G-Max was a huge player on reddit.
But what info is there about James Alefantis being big on there too?
I would have to dig, and they have certainly vanished it. It must have been out on the chans.
I know two people who have received the monoclonal antibody infusion. They are fine.
Is one of those people Trump? If not, you can add 1 to your count :)
I don't think the neverendemic actually ends until the Show begins. Depressing? Sure, but kind of exciting, too.
I agree, thats what ups the ante. I would have had no problem waiting until, say , 2022 midterms if thats what it took. But not with a scamdemic-vaxxgenocide hanging on our heads.
I agree on that!
Was it not Plaquenil that they mentioned? That's Hudroxychloroquine.
We need a "based Doctor and Dentist" database we can selected from or they add yet another acronym to their titles: NCSWIC or something.
just look for the ones who have just been suspended!
That and the entire site is run and modded by AGP pedophiles: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-boy-who-disappeared
Holy crap, what the heck did I just read. I knew there were some perverts on Reddit mod list, but this is just crazy. I wonder what you can dig up on N8thegr8 - the guy who launched the crusade against NoNewNormal.
The darkness in which these people breed, hope the light is shined on them so bright that they can be banished for at least a millenium
Tip of the iceberg, man, and then think about who is putting these twisted goons in charge of all this social engineering.
That pedo tranny bloboid is the personification of plebbit, shitty diapers and all. He's likely not even the biggest degenerate running that shithole.
I remember N8thegr8 from my days on r/cringeanarchy, I guess he’s still a massive dweeb lol
Yeah...THAT was harsh!!
🤢
I wonder how many actual smug retards are even left on plebbit? They must be outnumbered by bots many times over, not to excuse the smug retardation of the flesh and bone bots.
My estimate is 90% bots/shills vs 10% real people overall.
In some smaller subs its different, but this is the case in the top popular subs
Yep it has to be that way for a narrative to remain consistent without question
Yeah, only subs I checked out after /r/thedonald was banned were niche tech subs.
Even those have declined in quality majorly, mostly because people like me largely left and ignore the platform due to the censorship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SQ-TJKPPIg
Thanks for the share!
Wow you just educated this Boomer. I never spent much time on there, as I didn't dive-in the early years and whenever I lurked there it was far too left for my taste. I did see the draw to it tho, as there's quite a diverse ecosystem with any interest reflected there. But you nailed it as "toxic" is a perfect descriptor. Great link 👍🏼
Yup, wish my family would see this.
What I always think when I read these people so confidently bashing Ivermectin is: how many doctors have you spoken to/listened to who have actual experience of USING the drug - as opposed to people who have decided from perusing secondary sources that they aren't even going to try?
I've spent hours listing to these guys: Hector Carvalla, Jackie Stone, Mobeen Sayed, Pierre Kory, Paul Marek, Darell DeMello, John Ratjer, Shankarra Chetty, Joseph Varon, Bruce Boros, Lenny Da Costa
...and various others whose names escape me. I'd like to know what the critics make of these doctor's 18 months experience using the drug to save the lives of their patients. Forget the observational studies, epidemiological studies, randomised trials, in-vitro research, in-vivo research, in-silico research and meta-analyses which have been done all around the world if you find that they don't meet your expectations with regards to quality and style (conveniently ignoring the fact that its a miracle any research was able to be done at all given the profound difficulties in securing funding). But what can they say about the personal, detailed testimonies of these front-line doctors? Perhaps they are all deluded? Perhaps they have not seen what they claim to have seen, have not experienced what they claim to have experienced....
All I can say is: if these doctors are ALL deluded or lying, the conspiracy they have managed to enact is FAR more convincing that the alternative conspiracy that there are vested financial interests doing all they can to muddy the waters and delay adoption of a highly effective medicine. Big Pharma's spin doctors have got a lot to learn, because so far, their particular spin doesn't hold a candle to the "deluded" testimony and research of the Ivermenctin supporters.
Sorry - rant over. Just makes me ANGRY to think of people suffering unnecessarily.
I used to think my doctor spent a good chunk of time doing what I do: Keeping abreast of his industry, reading papers, catching up with colleagues, etc...
The truth is doctors see patients, day in and day out, and work endless hours seeing patients. Any spare time they have they spend updating charts. Occasionally they have to "download" new programming from insurance companies to figure out how to get paid for some common ailments.
The covid thing has exposed that America's doctors are not worthy of the title anymore. The medical industry is completely broken, and we'd be better off with nothing in most cases.
How do we reset the medical industry? I have some ideas, the first being, get rid of all forms of insurance. Doctors either work for free or they get paid in cash. And let people build medical centers / hospitals wherever they want and let them do whatever they think is best there. If that means turning away the endless hordes of people who have ripped their internal organs in anal sex, along with the drug addicts and homeless, so be it.
Yep this is what I've come to understand. I think there are 2 types of doctor: the kind who deals with difficult decisions by outsourcing it to "trusted" authorities, and the kind who finds the time to investigate personally. I don't blame people for being in the first category - it takes a particular character, as well as the opportunity, to be able to research for yourself, and I think many doctors who might want to investigate personally have been swamped and just trusted that others are doing their jobs properly.
I think part of what is going on might be that we have a system which evolved to manage a public that was poor in information and time. Decision making processes weren't set up to be challenged from multiple random directions, and now that they are being, they can't process the challenges effectively and learn from them. To prevent total collapse and inability to make any decisions at all, I think they've just cut off and censored input channels that they aren't designed to handle.
That's the most charitable hypothesis I can come up with by the way - I have plenty of others which are less so :)
Great rant Pede 👍🏼😎
This is the problem w journalism and the left. They are a like a battered person in a relationship. They are in complete denial of reality and sadly locked into that relationship without the ability to escape. When they finally do en masse, and see the world as it is, we call it the “great awakening”.
The pretzel twisting on Reddit to simply comprehend what Rolling stone recently did is sad and entertaining all at once.
They cannot see the simple explanation. Ivermectin was being trashed because any solution to coronavirus must come from leftists czars!! Those 63 studies on C19Ivermectin.com, mostly positive - let’s ingnore them!- says the media. Leftists won’t even flinch. If it wasn’t printed in the WaPo it’s not a source to them.
Hence, the media, to uphold such a disillusioned narrative ala Russia Hoax style, in particular the fake news, utilize confirmation bias, misinfo, disinfo, and lies by omission. Their confirmation biases are more like a confirmation hunts. Except they’re hunting unicorns, which don’t exist, so they NEED to make up the story in its entirety.
When they get called out, like the sham idiots they are, the sheeple subscribers try to understand it with white gloves rather than instantly understand the obvious affliction.
They think to themselves , “it’s ok it’s ok, these are ‘good’ people who made a mistake”.. while others (likely paid professionals) throw in “good news” sources like the NYT wouldn’t do this, btw a complete garbage mill. Then they also conflate Fox News as somehow being to blame for its fakeness as an excuse for RS. These people are sick.
Love how that thread immediately goes to the "which source is trusted?" And rattles off a shit ton of well known leftist rags.
Ones I once read and cited myself, till Gamergate.
My experience in arguing with them is that they will attempt to discredit every source that doesn't agree with them.
Amusing self-reflection moment; When I started reading purposely opposing news sources I found threads of commonality. From there I started seeing what's been "hiding."
I can't say I overtly believe everything, for instance, what people opposing the vaccine are saying. But the overt response from those trying to oppress it tells me clearly what they're saying shouldn't be trusted whatsoever.
It had made me question the intent and context of what I used to be told, which oddly enough started with Gamergate.
It's all anecdotal unless it suits their narrative; in which case it's personal experience.
They love their circular, self absorbed weasel wordplay.
Was once one of them, so I know their tactics, and I do use it from time to time on them.
That person may have been the voice of reason. These days, only primary sources can be trusted.
Some faggot smackey keeps spamming the same comments 50x: "I know this doctor. . . He's a guy boi. . . He didn't even say that." Smackey needs to get smacked with a 2x4. Reddit is such a hellhole.
Smackey is probably the doctor.
His wife's boyfriend
I just checked because i was curious and you are actually right, wtf. He spammed the same message in every single comment chain just plugged it in, and fast too. Its like the 2nd post in every comment chain.
I hope he gets paid well, he has zeal.
But who even went to reddit after events of 2015?
I never did, except when linked to some degenerate drama.
To be honest, I've occasionally clicked on GTA gaming links, but that's it.
Was on reddit from 2005 - 2015. Learned a lot about coffee, how to roast your own and which kind of equipment makes the best cup. But even back then the wokesters were spreading throughout the entire site. Then the Pao happened.
Fukcing idiots don't realise they are idiots because they are idiots.. It's the Dunning-Krueger effect
I'd argue it's the Dunder-Mifflin effect.
The biggest problem is the lack of dot connecting. They assume the media lied about the story for public safety over Ivermectin, not because they are evil asshats who don’t want us to know about the benefits of the drug. Thats the worst part about that thread.
What a rare unintended fluke 😂😂😂
Why would corporate news sponsored by big pharma lie about cheap treatments and therapeutics?
Can you imagine the adjustment a normie is going to have to make when they realise that all their news sources and their governments have been trying to get them enslaved or killed and that most political and religious constructs are meant to do the same ultimately?
I don't push the dumbasses too hard, but I sure disrespect them and note their lack of intellectual honesty and forthright bravery.
I grew up thinking that I was the faulty one.
It's everyone effing else!
Yet in the rolling stone retraction they repeat the fabricated story as part of the retraction. They want to make sure you “think” that ivermectin “could” be dangerous.
Tbf it can be. Just like water or milk. Too much of anything can kill you. Just saying lol.
Too much vax will kill you --- every time!
F Mercury (paraphrased)
Poor genius guy was killed by Fauci with poisonous HIV treatments
Holy shit, look at the absolute cope.
Why do I bother looking at Reddit? smh
You're not going to like the answer.
Sadly, many who I would consider "loved ones" are double vaxed.
All I can do now is pray.
Natural immunity can't get her out of the arguments? I mean, everybody's been exposed at this point. So if she hasn't gotten sick, she's got natural antibodies, right? Anyway, that argument (not the argument, just the conclusion) worked to get a family member off my back. Hope she stays good.
Well, it worked for me. "I already got it and recovered. I'm naturally immune. Why would I need one?" My sister stopped trying after that, and we talked about other stuff.
Is alright fren.
I've actually been fortunate in that I am not bothered to take it myself. I just hope this talk of a booster doesn't get them, because at this point I'm just worried about them as is.
Why are you letting your wife have any contact with assholes who harass her?
If you don't care about her, why is she even your wife?
Reddit is trash. I can only fill my brain with truth. No time for lies and deceit.
Nice! Hope my family get to see such posts, won't take anything I put out.
I'm feeling for you undine...I recall a comment you made the other day about your fam. Just know you're not alone. 👍🏼💕
God. Just reading their threads... I feel like I got hit with a fat dose of radiation 🤮
Fear sells... And they are selling horse piles of it.
Mmmmmm.... road apples.
I watched the news article live go from blaming the overcrowding on ivermectin to defaulting that it's a covid surge...
I don't think there are overflowing hospitals now
Reddit is a burning dung heap. Seriously. I am so glad I left. Reading some of these comments makes me want to vomit. You can tell when someone is making a good argument because they will bring up how you can't listen to them because of their post history or that they are not arguing in "good faith" whatever that means...
Medical community what a joke!
I was banned within 15 minutes of commenting. Par for the course on Reddit.
They check your post history or lack thereof and ban you if you are not a woke pro-vaxxer.
Their rules do not apply to their minions.
Yep. I was banned from /r/askscience after somebody linked there from here.
Best part was I posted a link to the CDC's website and got banned for that.
shocked it’s being acknowledged
Sheesh.. reading some of the comments. They are full retard over there.
Can't imagine what being g that blind must be like. Confusion. Source of info is everything.
My guess is the real people there are completely brainwashed and have no idea the "hive mind" is 90% Chinese bots. They just want to fit in with their "peers."
best comment
"if you watch the commercial during the news you can see whos paying for the content... when you see all those drug pharmaceutical commercial u can start to understand why they are favorable to the industry"
Wow! It’s actually quite surprising to see how many are actually realizing the truth and bigger picture. I could not help myself but engage 😁😁😁
Probably the only subreddits worth reading are the financial ones.