A solid read from a federal prosecutor, why the Sussmann indictment is YUGE. This isn't hopium, its hope.
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A couple of high level notes from the article.
Form his 22 years of experience, this indictment is complete overkill for a single count of lying to federal investigators. It not only lays the ground work for conspiracy, but delves into history and detail that are otherwise not needed
And I have not seen this anywhere else, client-attorney privilege has clearly been broken. The implications of that alone are huge.
Those are just teasers. Go read all the juicy details. Start weaning yourself off that hopium drip and get some 100% pure genuine hope.
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Only a problem if it lasts until 2024.
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T. G. Holford21 hr ago
I was thinking about the attorney-client privilege issue, and it's not a given that that has happened.
While the substance of communications are very much protected, attorney's bills and time-sheets are far less protected. They do get turned over fairly often, without having to meet the crime-fraud exception or do an in camera review... e.g. if the existence of the representation is not secret, and the time / agency is a relevant question.
Edit: It's HUGE because it means a judge can do an in camera review of Clinton's communications with Sussman, and if there's anything there... then the dam breaks.
An in camera review may occur if the movant shows “a factual basis adequate to support a good faith belief by a reasonable person that an in camera review of the materials may reveal evidence to establish the claim that the crime-fraud exception applies.” US v. Zolin, 491 U.S. 554, 572 (1989) (internal citations omitted).
This indictment meets that test. The warrants, in camera review, etc. may have already happened... but there's no question that they're in play. The question is whether Clinton will be successful in throwing Sussman under the bus.
You clearly did not read the article before commenting. Its much more than that. Also, what are your credentials if you are calling this guy out?
Ideas speak on their own. The whole point of an anonymous board is that we don't have to establish credentials to speak. That's an authority fallacy anyway. There are plenty of people with credentials who are morons. Anyone who actually knows their business should be able to explain it simply, like a mechanic telling a client what is causing that noise and why he needs another $300 to fix it.
This guy's edit refers to an "in camera review". Do you have any clue what that is? I don't. I've got a lot of degrees, but a law degree isn't one of them. He's also citing case law to make his argument. Maybe the guy's watched a lot of lawyer movies.
The question stands: is his analysis inaccurate? If so, why?
You don’t have to dox yourself by providing credentials. For example, I am a high level IT consultant with more than one decade under my belt.
That said, I’m not a law-fag. So it helps to know if another anon who is critical of a law related post about a 22 year veteran as a fed prosecutor, has any chops to bring to the table.
I agree, anyone can be an idiot. Look at many of our doctors right now.
But, it carries more weight to be be more than another “internet expert” spreading his “wisdom”.
The only reason I even called you out, was because the indictment and the article both talk about emails that were obtained that clearly should have been protected by client-attorney privilege. That’s not just billing and time. It’s fucking emails between Sussmann and his clients.
So if that is still no big deal, tell us why and why you would know.
"In camera" is a legal term from Latin. It means literally "in chambers," meaning in the judge's chambers in private.
Nobody here has credentials. They can say they have them, but they don't. We are anons.
The only credentials you have here is if you bring an intelligent, logical comment to the forum that has the proofs to back them up. That is the litmus test. If you can't do that, even if you are the a mega-brained-lawyer (in this case), you might as well be just another pleb on the street.
I could say the same about a lot of the resumes I’ve sifted through.
But I’ll concede your point, if for no other reason than we are getting too far off topic.
The crux of my point was, you cannot dismiss that it appears attorney-client privilege was breached just because billing and time are sometimes not considered privileged. The indictment and the article both reference emails Sussmann (the attorney) was sending his clients. If Durham has those, then the article appears to be correct.
Correct about the resume thing. Personally I suck in interviews. However my current job gave me an assignment as part of the process, and I impressed the hell out them with skill.
Logic and skill conquers all.
As to your point: fair point.
I'm great at interviews, I never study prerehearsed questions.
While I am skillful at my job, impressing in an interview in a way that is natural and genuine goes along way in your consideration as a recommended candidate for the job.
I always did well in interviews. I've never actually filled out an application for any job I ever had. I just went in and said you need a worker, I want a job, and I am qualified. Then we would talk a bit, and I was hired. In my last job, I was on the clock about an hour after I walked in the building and kept the job until I retired.
I'm not saying it's a bad article. It's pretty good. It's just one caveat that billing statements often aren't privileged.
My credentials are Clarke v. American Commerce Nat. Bank, 974 F. 2d 127 (9th Cir. 1992) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4668677461185860899
In that case the feds asked for attorney billing statements from the bank's attorney. The bank raised the privilege, and the lower court said the crime-fraud exception applied. The 9th Circuit disagreed and said that the exception didn't need to apply, because the billing statements weren't even privileged in the first place.
Granted, it depends on what each line item says. Something like "Meet with FBI" is different from "Meet with FBI - I think they bought the story about DNS lookups, but it's probably not legal to x, y, z." Only the first part would get released. So an in camera review of the hours probably did happen. The judge may have redacted some of the entries... and Durham's report may just be based on what wasn't redacted.
Edit: However, I totally agree that 95% of the indictment didn't need to be in there... and it doesn't make sense to include all of that info if you haven't already secured some way of proving it / or it's misdirection / etc.
TMI law dog! I feel you could be doxing yourself now. Be careful.
Nice find. Thanks
The DNC is going down with the ship. Just wait, they are going to be completely dismantled.
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GOP is going to have a hard time existing as well. They are complicit and sit on their hands while the Dems dismantle the constitution, apply the law selectively, and coup their own government.
The chronic failure of people to criticality look at The Republican Party has been one of the biggest disappointments of this movement.
They’re AS BAD, but nothing beats the Dem “A-Team” these days. Utterly evil.
The Dem "A-team" is just the bad cop.
The GOP is the good cop.
Outside the room where you can't see, they work together, but to your face they put on an act in order to get you to do what they want.
They are birds of a feather, the uniparty. We have been operating under the illusion of a two party system for decades. We have been denied choice in truth and in fact. Our nation has been an oligarchy since before most of us were born. We have all been in the matrix, unaware of reality, bound in Platos cave.
The RINOS are on the same team as the DIMS. The RINOS will be removed if this all goes according to plan.
The Lion or Patriot party, here we come
Yep, I remember this now but I was thinking more from what God will do
"The age of COVID makes this easier as attorneys don’t even come to the courthouse for hearings. To conduct a hearing the court simply issues a notice and password for a Zoom meeting or some other videoconference. Only the attorneys and court personnel are part of the call. All references to the dispute — including the outcome and the Court’s order — are sealed."
I love how the COVID bullshit is biting them in the ass.
these cowards all think they are so clever
Durham, Maxwell and Audits all playing at the same time. Panic
I’ve been reading shipwrecked since he was on RedState. He knows his stuff. He’s also closely following and writing about the sentences for the Jan 6 protestors. I try to read his Twitter feed every day - one of the few that I do.
Here’s Dan Bongino talking about this article...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1917&v=YJ4E6UJPTjI&feature=youtu.be
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Excellent clip. Tx Horsey!!! 💕😎
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I bookmarked to go back and read future postings.
These arrogant retards probably didn’t even attempt to hide their discussions using code words They just assumed using these lawyers and having control of the intel agencies would make them untouchable.
Can you imagine what they all said to each other?
Can you imagine being in Admiral Rogers shoes back then and seeing all of this occurring, and being powerless to stop it? Seeing the media cover up the wiretapping and deny it, the same day that Rogers visited Trump and straight told him they were doing it.
I think when this all shakes out, and the history is written, Rogers will end up in just as much of a heroic position as Trump. And it does make sense to me that they basically had to allow the fraud to occur.
They need to be able to wipe the government clean, including their own Pentagon. They need to be able to arrest dozens upon dozens of politicians, including Ex-Presidents. They need to be able to lock up “journalists” who collided with congress to knowingly leak false information. They need to reset big tech completely, and restore freedom to the people. They need to punish China, which will impact everyday Americans until supply chains are changed.
To do all this, you need optics. It needs to be righteous. You need the people demanding it, to lose sleep over the future of their country. You need to be able to summon hundreds of thousands of people at will.
Shits gonna get biblical.
There will be a number of heroes in this book, but I agree with you. Admiral Rogers was one of the first and there may not have been the others if not for him
What's the post about first indictment/arrest confirming direction?
Was it said "no deals"?
Thanks for this. I'm looking forward to his breaking down parts 1-44
Archived link:
https://archive.is/ZOUdD
DeeinFL wrote a few comments in the reply section of this opine...
I believe it was a Crowdstrike executive too but not Dmitri Alpertovich. I think it was Shawn Henry. Henry was an assistant director when Mueller was Director of the FBI. Sussman was a Prosecutor with the DOJ.
Shawn Henry, the president of CrowdStrike Services, told the House Intelligence Committee in late 2017 that his firm had no evidence that the alleged Russian hackers stole any data from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers. The reason why Henry was brought before HPSCI is because he did much of the analysis on the DNC servers.
The criminal conspiracy expands from Sussman, Elias and Henry. Recent court filings in DC by Alfa Bank are against Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones, volunteer during the Clinton administration former FBI and Diane Feinstein’s former staffer, who started 4 companies-3 non profits and 1 for profit but all were for the purpose of feeding the Trump Russia collusion beast. One of his nonprofits was started with money from 4 donors; one of which was George Soros. He donated $1.5M to Jone’s The Democracy Integrity Project (TDIP) according to tax filings. Tom Steyer has donated $2.1M and actor Rob Reiner also donated to TDIP.
Among its many activities, TDIP pumped out daily “research” briefings to prominent Washington journalists, as well as congressional staffers, to keep the Russia “collusion” narrative alive. It was why everyone was always singing from the same hymnal. Jones’ company also paid Glenn Simpson $5M and Christopher Steele $1M for research in 2017 and 2018, according to tax filings. One of Jones’ nonprofits, Advance Democracy Inc, was seeded with money from Silicon Valley social media titians-Facebook, Twitter and Google. Advance Democracy Inc., shared the same Northern Virginia address as TDIP, received at least $500,000.
Jones has also communicated with investigators for Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, hoping to spread more Trump-Russia conspiracy theories. Remember Warner already was trying to establish a back channel with Steele. Warner’s text messages were obtained and published by Fox News.
According to court filings, a staffer for Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) enlisted Daniel Jones to analyze computer data that purportedly connected Trump's real estate company with the Russian oligarch-owned Alfa Bank. Democrats on the Senate Armed Services Committee obtained the Alfa Bank data in early 2017, according to a court filing Jones submitted this month. Jones said the committee asked him in early- to mid-2017 to investigate the Alfa Bank data. A recently written article says Jones is going to testify before a Durham grand jury.
Alfa Bank's owners allege that someone fabricated computer data linking Alfa Bank to Trump's company. The bankers have subpoenaed a number of experts in an attempt to discover the origins of the Alfa-Trump conspiracy theory, including Mikey Dickerson, a cyber expert who worked in the Obama White House.
Dickerson's connection to the Alfa Bank case is murky, he was identified in connection with another Democrat-funded disinformation campaign a few years ago. Dickerson founded American Engagement Technologies, a tech startup funded by billionaire Democratic donor Reid Hoffman. According to the New York Times, American Engagement Technologies paid a tech firm called New Knowledge to create fake social media accounts to help Democratic candidate Doug Jones during the 2017 special election. New Knowledge created fake Twitter accounts to make it appear that Russian bots were following Jones challenger Roy Moore.
There’s so many crazy intertwined stories. I provided all the links to the articles done by investigative journalists for anyone wishing to read them. Hopefully Durham is pursuing these avenues and there will be criminal conspiracy charges down the line.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html
https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Jones.pdf
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/03/11/trump-russia_20_dossier-tied_firm_sending_dc_journalists_daily_collusion_briefings.html#!
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/13/silicon-valley-charity-fusion-gps-trump/
It’s a great way to ‘catch up’ if anyone needs to....
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Did anyone else have an angry & excited moment reading this:
" When a prosecutor seeks emails that are more than six months old, he only needs a grand jury subpoena with does not require a showing of “probable cause”. "
Why only 6 months & why not a subpoena?😡 That said, these guys are all in trouble if true. 😂
Ship Wrecked At Gitmo!
The word KNOWINGLY is one Q repeated over and over.
Makes me so happy to see it in this indictment.
Truly.
Awesome article, thanks anon
Haha, I posted this a few days ago and it got very few comments.
Seriously though, shipwreckedcrew has some valuable insight I and give his opinion so extra weight, even if he does throw cold water on some things now and then.
Durham is ready to rock.
Looks like hopium to me...
I'll take a hit, of course
Solid read, indeed! Thanks!
Nice.
I am guessing a deal for bigger rocks but as side info:
The Punishment for an 18 USC 1001 Conviction
The punishment for violating this statute is severe. You face five years in federal prison. It’s important to distinguish that this is not time in state prison, but federal prison.
https://www.nyccriminallawyers.com/18-usc-1001-general-federal-false-statements-statute/