It's getting pretty scary on Oahu. My husband and I have a small business here and refuse to get the shot. We would love to stay and fight for our freedom but with a seven month old baby I'm afraid of the consequences of participating in any possible revolution, which may or may not come to fruition at this point.
Trusting the plan currently but at what point should we be getting the fuck out of dodge? We have plans to leave at the end of the year if things don't turn around. What should we do?
Not sure where else to turn. My husband asked me to post on here and get a temperature check/some advice from fellow patriots with more perspective.
Edit: Wow, I got stickied! Thanks to everyone for your opinions. We have our exit strategy in place. The main issue is the business we’ve worked so hard to build from the ground up. Moving away means starting over and that’s pretty soul crushing for us.
Not sure of more perspective here ith, but where would you go? Unless you have like minded family and friends somewhere you can't just pick up and go. You are established and live in an enemy occupied territory. Keep at it. Are there other like minded folks in your sphere? You need to connect with them. Plan for the worst and do what you need to do. Running will be a problem in my opinion. (not knowing your situation) Go underground, protect your baby. Harden your hearts and minds to make it. Get mean. Hard times are coming to us all. ALL of US.You can make it. Think of your child. Be hard. Be Strong.
Thanks for your opinion on this. We have like-minded family and friends on the mainland where I’m from and we are connected here with those who think like us. There are massive protests which we do attend but the restrictions are only getting worse. There are rumors of camps being built on the west side of the island.
Ith, There are rumors of camps everywhere. So there is no escape from that as I see it. Hawaii is communist. As is Oregon, California, Nevada etc. Me, I would stay and fight. That is your home. There is no safe haven, only safer havens now. If the USA falls we are all in trouble. Advice is worth every penny you pay for it, though. All I can say is . You are not alone.
News for you buddy. Alabama ain't in trouble. We got welders that can affix full size machine guns to cars if the shit ever hits the fan. We got military men. Ex-military men. Entire platoons of em. A small armory in every home. Large amounts of private citizens owning body armor and anti-vehicle, anti-tank weaponry. We's good.
Sounds a lot like Florida, and a few other states I know of.
Wouldn’t you say the precipice is also kill a Commie day ? If we continue at this pace, many people will soon be left with nothing. And it’s not until we have lost everything, we are free to do anything.
I’m not alone by any means but nobody here is willing to truly fight at this point—blocking the streets is apparently out of the question, for example, and not a single lawyer wants to do anything to help. I know nearly 2000 small businesses that would sign up for a class action and no lawyer will take the case.
My wife is from there, her parents just moved here to Texas at the beginning of the year ;)
They love the fact they can actually create wealth here, it took her mom a little time to get used to not wearing a mask though. When I picked her up from the airport, she had a face shield and a mask on!? LOL! I told her, take that shit off, we don't wear that crap!
After visiting many times, I have convinced most of her family that Hawaii is a great place to vacation, and a crappy place to live. Like Cali, its beautiful, weather is great, but the politics, people, and traffic make it intolerable
edit: Her brother is moving here next year as well, he is unvaccinated as well, and works with the department of corrections. He tells us everyone is brain washed.
Hey fren, can you suggest any towns in TX? Pede in WA searching for a new life
One thing I know for sure, stay away from San Antonio and Austin.
There's based towns and cities surrounding both of those though. I live in a town north of San Antonio. New Braunfels is pretty based for the most part I believe as well.
Went to college in San marcos!
Same for a semester! My girlfriend graduated from there.
We need to do that dem thing and flood those places with our people.
People need to be pulled over for Biden, Bernie, or any other commie sticker. Driving while a Dem.
Blue hair, 15% surcharge on items.
Will do
Is it because of the blm/antifa protests?
Thanks bud
Depends on what you’re looking for. City or country or small town? There’s many beautiful places in TX
Stay out of cities, generally speaking- they breed rats of the deadliest kinds. If you're moving now, plan for self sufficiency as much as you can.
Get out now. Please. I also live on an Island, once air travel is taken out you are fucked. You need to move now.
There's always boats. Don't panic just yet.
I honestly wouldn't worry about forced vax... for now. You'd be surprised at how many patriots you are surrounded by on the islands, maybe not Republicans per say but people that don't want their rights treaded on. True, Honolulu is a shit show when it comes to being a left-wing stronghold but I believe this all ends before they come door knocking.
Ahhh, an optimist. Such a rare sight here. /s
(I don’t mind your optimism, I’m just giving you shit early)
I used to believe there was an end in sight, but my dooming ass is datefagging August 2022. And if I were these people, I would go to a free state. Economy in FL is booming, there is no pandemic here.
No jab, no welfare will be one of the first things they implement. If they don't have it already.
I would hang on.
Increasingly, vaxed people are dropping from blood clots, heart attacks, cancers, neurological disorders and bowel problems. It will only get worse for them. When they take the clot booster, things will get really bad. The press won't be able to lie about it much longer. People are seeing it too often.
I just talked with a co-worker today. His best friend he knew since kindergarten lives in California and just died this week of a strangely aggressive cancer. He went from healthy to dead from cancer in about 60 days. If course, he had both vax shots. It's happening more often due to damaged immune systems.
I would hang on until at least January or February. Let the next Cold & Flu season devastate the vaxed in every major city. Let hospitals be filled to capacity with the vaxed and the lies exposed.
Keep your head down and hold out for 5 months. After that, you might have nothing to worry about.
This is something I’m hugely afraid of. I’d rather not have my family living in ground zero for genocide stage 10. I definitely believe this will happen.
We moved across the country from the heart of water main break city. You need to move as things are happening fast and you can reestablish stateside. Was stationed there, graduated college, so sad to say but China wants to take your island. It’s so much better to have peace of mind... as much as we can have! Good luck fellow lady patriot
There's a risk that if you need hospital services yourself during those months when flu hits, there would be no availability. So, if you foresee yourself in a medically risky group, I'd get out.
To be honest I gave birth at home to avoid the hospital. I refuse to go at this point.
Totally
Amazing! I wish I would’ve went that route myself. Even pre-plandemic the hospital was the worst environment to have a baby, I ended up with a very unnecessary csection due to the hospital’s countless interventions. I had/still have ptsd from it.
It would have been a c section if I’d gone to the hospital. My OB tried to lie to me about my fundal height in order to scare me into switching back.
I was lied to also. They said my pelvis was too small and my baby was really big. In reality it’s EXTREMELY rare to have too small of a pelvis to give birth and my baby was 8 lbs, 2 oz. A little big but not like a 10-11 pounder. And his head size was absolutely average. They have lost the art of midwifery and all the tricks passed down from generation to generation and just do things that lead to more cesareans, which makes the hospital and doctors the most money.
Woo. You go mama!
but for which year? it could be referencing 2024 for all we know
I'm asking a legitimate question bro
Red October could be for any year. It could be for this year. I was just pointing out so we dont get our hopes up again. Remember "March Madness"....
June was madness for Fauci when his emails leaked, not March. If that is what you consider march "madness" then this is why people are getting blackpilled.
Get out. Let it blow over then go back.
It will end. Future is bright.
They are trying to mandate vaccines for air travel so it’s preferable if you made a decision quickly, maybe stay at a relative’s house temporarily.
We have medical exemptions but this is what terrifies me. Does anyone know when the house votes on this bill?
What did you say to get medical exemptions?
I went to a naturopath and explained I wasn’t comfortable getting the shot. She did the rest.
We have 3 and they are not honored for travel including our vaccine damaged son. I’d go back home for a while. Pray and trust your husband. I did and it was worth it.
If you want to move to north Alabama I can get your husband enough work to live on. I am an overpaid tree guy and bossman will just have us do more jobs more quickly if we had more hands. If your husband has money I guarantee he would quickly see our potential down here and end up in charge of our little tree-cutting gang. If an investor put up the money to get us a claw truck and/or a chipper, we would be absolutely raking in the fucking cake. Regardless of whether he wants to continue being a business owner and change pace owning a different type of business or if he just wants steady income at a tree business, he's absolutely welcome and I can absolutely guarantee his success. And this goes for the rest of you fuckers reading this too ;)
Our work is like "hey this nurse wants this tree cut down in her yard," boom $1500. Way more work than we have hands to do the work.
My family lives on Kauai, and they have the same concerns as you. They’re on the mainland looking for another place to live right now while I am here housesitting for them. But I Oahu is a lot worse.
No big deal over here at this point in time, you just have to wear a mask in a grocery store or Walmart. That’s about it. It sucks because I’m here from Arizona so we have nothing like that going on over there and it hasn’t been like that for almost the entire scamdemic.
That’s right… Wink wink, nod, nod!
This is the reason why you don’t see a lot of road rage in Arizona. You never know who is carrying - and it would be foolish to start spouting off not knowing who!
Move to a red state the redder the better
Easy to offer up a lady with a baby...
Texas, Alabama, or Florida seem to be pretty free states overall. Plus you could still be close to the water if that's your thing. These states, and other southern states, often get stereotyped as having nothing but backwoods rednecks and crumbling infrastructure everywhere, but TX, AL, and FL are the home to NASA, Space Force, and NASA again. Like any state, there are red areas just as there are blue areas. Cost of living, property taxes, etc. are also generally much lower in these states. Best of luck to you.
I live in Florida it is fine for now. I love Honolulu. The wife and I were married at the Gazebo on the wall. But brother that island is just one or two missed barges away from canabalism. We visited in January and did not enjoy as usual. I am out till something changes.
So glad I got to visit before all of this, Oahu is beautiful. Things are getting bad but so far it's all been threats with little real action. I'm hoping this all ends before they start closing borders and barring unvaxxed people from flights.
You have the gift of entrepreneurialism which you can take with you and use it to start over, but only if you are still alive and well.
Please keep us posted on your exit.
Tell them "I'm not taking the MAGA jab." They hate Trump, so they should hate the jab. Makes no sense, but that's why it works.
Lol that will really cause a short circuit in the lib brain..."sorry but I don't trust the vaccine pushed through by Trump.". I can see the lib-bots smoking from the ears trying to process that
If things are already getting pretty scary and if there wasn't some extremely compelling reason to stay, I'd be concerned that waiting till the end of the year may be too late. I'm not sure things will turn around by the end of the year and in fact that may be when things are getting worse. If the doctors are correct, there will be a lot of deaths of the vaxxed this fall/winter and leaving once that starts may become more problematic just in terms of people being available to do their normal jobs regarding transportation and whatever other arrangements are required for you to leave.
On the other hand, the feeling seems to be (based on things happening, things I read and videos I listen to) that a lot of possible make-or-break things could occur in October, including a possible financial upheaval, the fed government being broke by mid October if they don't raise the debt ceiling, Durham's indictments, etc., and then there's the general unrest being caused by the vaxx mandates. So I'd carefully watch what these things may portend through the month of October, as that may also give you a better idea of whether to leave sooner than the end of the year or wait it out.
We have a store here which has taken 3 years to build up to where it’s at. That’s the main thing keeping us here. Right now there’s a 60-day mandate for restaurants and bars but mid-November is when that ends and from what I’m hearing they will try to make it 100% mandatory here after that.
They are going to destroy your business anyway so forget about it. If others find out you're an "antivaxxer" they wont come to your store and biden's 700k fines for business not doing the vax passport scheme will ruin any patriot.
As others have said, they are going after air travel hard. I am sure even boats will eventually demand a vax passport to board so unless you want to stay on an island forever, I'd suggest looking to get out.
Or the same thing that has been happening the past nine months, will happen in October.
Not much to sink a normies’ teeth into and then November 1 comes.
Oahu is gorgeous. But damn sure somewhere I wouldn’t want my family to be stuck if things do take a hard turn sideways
Survival is the most important aspect here. There is not much you could do with a 7 mo baby. If you have where to go, get the fuck out of there. You can always return and fight another day but think of the baby first. A war lost before the start, is just a slaughter. If not enough people to stay at ods with the eneny, i dont see a fight.
Yes, survive first, gather, share knowledge, teach the young.
You are not alone . I also live on Oahu around the pearl city area , There are alot of People just like you out here trying to hang on and yes it is hard when we live way behind enemy lines . I still can't believe that dumbass Mayor McCheese did that F'N mandate that is putting a shit load of people in a bad place either way is a lose / / lose situation take the jab and your life is screwed / Lose your job and you can't take care of your family and you and family is screwed . At least you can escape for a whole bunch of us we were born here we have no place to go so we become the resistance and try to fight any way we can exposing the comments section of the advertiser for the toxic hive mind echo chamber with sock puppets waiting to pounce , attack and abuse people that don't subscribe to their narrative Aloha and Imua
Are you attending the protests? I’m there every Saturday!
Well, the island paradise might become your prison since you can't fly without having the jab and I think all cruise shops require it too. If you plan to go, you better go quickly if you can find a way out. Might get pretty bad real soon!
I don’t have the answer but I’m in CA and am thinking I need to prepare my house to rent out in canse we need to move to either Texas or Florida. I don’t want to leave because my wife and I grew up here and have friends and family here. But I’m not going to allow my family to be jabbed. I’m praying that we can stay out of it with using Religious Exemptions.
I look at it this way. No business is worth your family. that is something it took me a while to learn. You have the blueprint to start a new business anywhere you choose as you have already done it. You know what worked and what didn't in your business. My advice would be to sell your business, hopefully for a profit and go somewhere friendly to the business model you developed. A friend of mine(Native American), who was born and raised in hawaii, said it best. Hawaii is one large reservation, everything is government funded, so people do as they are told. I lived there for about a year, working at Kapiolani Medical Center
Served in A Quad 🙃
You’ll get a lot of opinions from others. Search your own heart... do you love it there and it feels like the right place? Or do you feel called to move?
If you let yourself get real quiet inside, and ask the question, it will become very clear to you.
What good is your store going to do you during a genocide? Your emotional attachment to the fruits of your labor are clouding your mind.
Besides you can probably just board it up and come back next year if everything turns out OK.
Also, living overseas is not as hard as you think. You have an entrepreneurial mindset, which will keep you alive anywhere you go. I'm guessing your ancestors changed countries looking for a better life.
They did, they fled to the US from Germany just before WW1.
I am not being flippant and I respect how hard this decision is. You need guidance from the Holy Spirit at least as much as from fellow patriots.
Being on the mainland, my family has a lot of flexibility in our bug out plan. Your bug out plan is much more limited due to geography and demographics. This makes your position much more vulnerable.
Don't leave. You live in paradise! Where would you go?? Idaho?? Upstate New York? That's where I live. It is beautiful here, but pretty cold in the winter. You have to be ready for a big change no matter where you land. I would recommend staying.
It depends. If they will force you to take the shot t9 run your business you should leave. If they will destroy your livlihood get out. Go to Texas or Florida if you have the means.
I bet you could move to FL for pretty cheap compared to living in Oahu. You need to do what is right for you and your family. Don’t take the shot.
They would have to inject into my already dead corpse for me to get the shot at this point. I refuse to be one of their statistics.
If you have stock you can ship, sell online. If not, liquidate and leave, buy silver or something stable. Set up a small shop and let the Patriots here know where to shop, and pit yourself on the Gab groups of patriot, American stores as well. We support our own.
Free state project in New Hampshire!
I would be concerned about the passports. I honestly would come to the mainland and get situated someplace with a chance. I am in WA and am looking to move to Texas or somewhere else, haven't figured it out yet. I want to be surrounded by like-minded people and militia if shtf
As much as I would love to live in a tropical paradise and stay in America, I’d think the price you have to pay for that right now is just too high. If I were you I would get my family to Texas or Florida. There is plenty of work and we still have some of our rights.
Move to the Midwest ie texas and above