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posted ago by hippielouie ago by hippielouie +269 / -1

Matthew 24:21: For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will

Revelation 2:22: Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds

Revelation 7:14: And he said to me, These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Daniel 12:1: At that time . . . there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time.

1Thes 5.3,4 While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief

An event which encompasses the whole world.

Mathew 24.14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come

Isaiah 24:19, 20 The earth is broken asunder, The earth is split through, The earth is shaken violently. The earth reels to and fro like a drunkard and it totters like a shack.

Begins when? r we seeing this now? good vs evil...

2Thes 2b the day of the Lord . . . will not come unless . . . the man of lawlessness is** revealed**, the son of destruction

  1. who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3: Let no one in any way deceive you, for [the day of the Lord] will not come unless the apostasy comes first.

1 Timothy 4:1: But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.

2 Timothy 3:1-5: But realize this, that in the last days . . . men will be . . . holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power.

2Thes 2.8-13 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

Matthew 24:12-13 Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved

As a whole, man has rejected every opportunity that God has given him to demonstrate his trust in Him by obedience to Him

Rev 7.9-14 **I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count from every nation and tribe and people and language standing before the throne and before the Lamb . . ...“These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” **

Rev 21.3,4 “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

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MaudeMotrin 65 points ago +65 / -0

No yet. This is just the preview because the Tribulation will be 100 times worse than it is now.

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needorganization 25 points ago +25 / -0

A thousand times this.

This is the enemy trying to speed that process.

Also, we still haven't completed the great commission... there are still people groups who have never heard. Let's focus on the time at hand, not give in to fear mongering about times we aren't in and WE may never live in – regardless of if the rapture does or doesn't happen.

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Rubieroo 10 points ago +10 / -0

The enemy would love to force this world into the time of "great tribulation", the 70th 7 of Daniel, the kingdom set up for Satan via the antichrist to rule over.

But only God is in control of the timing of prophetic events. Satanists can't MAKE them happen on THEIR time.

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VetforTrump 11 points ago +11 / -0

Force. They can't, It's God's timing. They just want you to forget about God in the here and now.

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SirCamembert 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think a big part of it is trying to convince Christians that they CAN force it if they wanted, like project bluebeam and whatnot. If they can do that, they can dissuade followers from the faith because they will think that all of prophecy fulfillment’s was just done by men in order to force the fulfillment,

Truth is, no fulfillment will ever be done without removing all reasonable doubt that it as a divine act. That’s just how God works. He’s the master of memes and playing off of our expectations.

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Rubieroo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Absolutely! I always love it when a situation becomes impossible because then I know I can sit back and watch God do the impossible

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bl4ck-mag1k 1 point ago +1 / -0

So im not sure what you are saying here, are you saying that God will decide when the mark of the beast system is implemented ?

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Rubieroo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd phrase that differently - He knows the timing of everything, and ONLY He knows the timing - and even Satan cannot alter God's decreed times.

God doesn't implement that system, Satan's forces do. But they cannot just decide when, and they do keep trying.

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bl4ck-mag1k 1 point ago +1 / -0

God must have an extremely good reason for allowing this to be implemented

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Rubieroo 2 points ago +2 / -0

God has an extremely good reason for everything He does or allows.

Satan's best trick is getting people to be angry at God for things SATAN and his army and followers are doing.

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Andy_Man45 5 points ago +5 / -0

Revelation 3 KJV10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Revelation 7:3 KJV Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Ezekiel 9:4 KJV And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Exodus 12:22 KJV And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.

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Robyna7 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sounds like mid tribulation rapture lol

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen

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truthloveliberty 6 points ago +6 / -0

That’s a matter of perspective, depending on where in the world you are it can be hell on earth. Check out the Middle East. Yes, it will get worse but we might be at the beginning.

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Auroraalpha 4 points ago +4 / -0

Great point. For one thing, many things have not been revealed yet. But what is obvious is the prototype of things to come.

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keepthefaithtoday 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes this is true. This isn’t it. Tribulation will be horrific.

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Callmejuls 2 points ago +2 / -0

I believe that to be true as well. I have had a handful of what I believe to be prophetic dreams and sure wish I could find an interpreter because they follow scripture and I feel an urgency ti them

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AroomaNuminahh 23 points ago +23 / -0

This much I know about the current "times": there never has been a better time to witness (share) the Love and Grace of the ONLY Living God in Christ Jesus.

  • There never has been a better time to help people find FORGIVENESS for their bad decisions; for the harm they have done; with and for the people that have been wronged by them and wronged by people like ME. There is STILL forgiveness I must seek; there is STILL forgiveness I must offer. Same for you?

  • There never has been a better time to help people make the transition from fear to fruitfulness (for the Kingdom of God).

  • There never has been a better time to serve the unwanted, the unwashed, the broken-hearted, the lonely, the lost, the outcast, the discarded - in HIS Name.

  • There never has been a better time to join or start a congregation of DEEP and sincere prayer; and of outreach; and of FEARLESS worship; and of humble service.

If not now, when? If not you and me, then who? Today is as good a day as ANY OTHER to DIE to myself and be BORN AGAIN in HIM! End Times? Tribulations? NOTHING can match the TRANSFORMING/RENEWING power of God in Christ! HE is already started! WHEN will we join with Him? NOW is as good a time as ever... we have WORK TO DO!

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Callmejuls 6 points ago +6 / -0

And God asked “who will go to reach this people?” And I replied “here am I, send me”

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Q20191776 3 points ago +3 / -0

🙋 oh, oh!! 🙋🙏

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JayFrankAF 2 points ago +2 / -0

Been thinking on this: Nothing seems more insurmountable than forgiving myself.

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numina18 3 points ago +3 / -0

But God will forgive you, so try that.

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TrustTheTruth 22 points ago +22 / -0

The Parousia begins in Racine, Wisconsin by exposing the Root, gateway and model for the real Agenda beyond 21 and 2030 of Eternal Enslavement forged through the Great Deception of Sustainability (Satan’s Ability) with the Mark of the Beast enforced by smart cities, resilient communities, quantum AI and community policing.

Racine is the model for all of these and more.

It is also the model used to rig the election.

The Truth has been shared since The Beginning.

Jesus Christ and The Truth are The Only Way.

Jesus is the Lamb. The Truth is The Lion.

Expose the Root. Reveal the Agenda. Deny the Mark.

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TheAwakened 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hope he hides behind 17 vpn's

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Joshheretohelp 3 points ago +3 / -0

"He" knows shit only groups at the very top would.

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into_the_continuum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Isaiah 24:19, 20 The earth is broken asunder, The earth is split through, The earth is shaken violently. The earth reels to and fro like a drunkard and it totters like a shack.

What is the MAP?

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TrustTheTruth 5 points ago +5 / -0

The MAP is the blueprint.

The world is connected to past, present and future.

A piece was shared on the chans before the transition.

Very powerful people do not want The Truth of Racine to spread.

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into_the_continuum 4 points ago +4 / -0

The MAP is the blueprint.

What does this mean? This is the most confusing thing you have ever said.

A blueprint implies something is being built across the globe and somehow Racine and Israel are the opposite ends? But Israel and Wisconsin do not immediately appear to be opposite each other on a Globe. Something does appear to be going on at or around 42 degrees latitude because Racine, Rome and Constantinople roughly align there, but I can't comprehend what any of this means.

The pyramids of Giza are 6,666 km away from the North Pole..

Mount Kailash, another place that has been labeled an "Axis Mundi", is 6,666 km away from the North Pole. It is 6,600 meters above sea level, at least according to some sources. It's surrounded by two lakes, one of them the highest freshwater lake on earth. Nobody has climbed mount Kalaish and legends say it causes people to age faster. There are also rumors that the peak is a man made pyramid but I don't know if I believe that based on looking at pictures of the mountain.

I found this statement about a "map of the city of the Gods"

I don't even know what I'm saying. This all seems relevant but I can't put anything together that's coherent or makes any sense..

The world is connected to past, present and future.

Are you talking about a cataclysm cycle or the literal merging of time? This statement makes me think of either 1) Ragnarok or 2) the stuff Austin Steinbart was talking about regarding quantum computers sending messages from the future.. which may help explain why they are building the Foxconn plant in Racine..

A piece was shared on the chans before the transition.

I feel like you once said it was shared on 8chan? Do you mean before 8chan transitioned to 8kun? Am I correct in assuming the MAP, or whatever piece of it that was posted, has been completely wiped from the internet and I have no hope of finding it?

What was displayed on the MAP? Clearly I'm looking at something really important but I can't begin to fathom what it is..

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CrackinBallsCuh 5 points ago +5 / -0

Also... One thing that all of the ancient mystery schools and religions seem to have in common, something it would seem they've tried to meticulously censor access of information to (library at alexandria, genocide of Native American Chieftains and cultures, constant displacing of native populations into unfamiliar areas etc) is the fact that the stars have WAAAAY more importance than we think.

The Zodiac could almost be seen as the guidebook to life. 12 Salts of Aries (the first Zodiac) corresponding to different types of cell function among the body. Without these cell salts, they can't perform their function properly and cause disease. Reintroduction to these salts can remedy this. Also seems to be something to the part about the human body working properly=perfect body=perfect soul=christ consciousness through the third eye and meditation.

I randomly had my attention brought to a bright star that I had never noticed in the sky a few months ago. Just so happened to be the EXACT day of the year neptune was closest to the earth, yet neptune isn't visible with the naked eye. It was a star in the Aquarius cluster.

5 planets are in retrograde this month, and is alluded to in some biblical texts if I recall correctly. We are entering the age of aquarius. Mayan long count calendar marked the end of an age in 2012 but I think it was intentionally used as a red herring early for plausible deniability.

Maybe not. I have no idea but 2 years ago I would have considered myself a non-believer and never would have believed any of this "woo-woo shit". Their propaganda model allowed me to see what I couldn't before and it would seem this stuff may be their biggest kept secret.

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BTFO 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nothing of significance to add to what you said... but I too have been noticing some very odd things going on with stars and the moon the last few months. I am a follower of Jesus Christ through and through, but I am someone that really loves God's creation (nature) and I for whatever reason have been finding myself staring up at the sky and stars A LOT lately. I've always loved looking up at the sky during the day or night, but I've found myself doing it even more so in 2021.

A month ago I got the urge to step outside out of nowhere and take a peek at the stars/moon and witnessed the brightest RED half-moon that I have ever seen. It was BRIGHT RED (fiery / bloody red). I had never seen anything like it. And then as I was watching it, it quickly began to fall below the houses behind my home. It went down faster than I have ever seen before. I snagged a picture of it as well. I had heard no one else talking about it and there were zero news/weather articles about it.

In the last 3-4 months I have also been seeing very bright stars pop up in the sky that I swear I have never seen before. Stars that shine so big and bright that I legit didn't think it was a star at first.

Again... probably means nothing...

u/CrackinBallsCuh u/into_the_continuum u/TrustTheTruth

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TrustTheTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

There is much more to it than “nothing”.

It is calming and shows how You are connected with something much bigger and grander.

Why are celebrities called “stars”?

What do “they” believe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot

https://treeofvisions.wordpress.com/tag/kabbala/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/844987948809298179/

https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details/The_Great_Pyramid_Void_Enigma_The_Mystery_of_the_H?id=AQAAAEA8VkYWaM&hl=en&gl=US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion%27s_Arm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Arm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center

Jesus Christ will guide You to The Truth that is connected within You.

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into_the_continuum 3 points ago +3 / -0

/u/BTFO u/joshheretohelp u/CrackinBallsCuh u/Quelle u/TheAwakened

They seem highly interested in areas that experienced or show evidence of glaciation in the distant past. The Great Lakes, upstate New York, Allentown Pennsylvania and Arizona all share two things in common: They are all connected to Racine, Wisconsin and they are all areas that experienced or show evidence of glaciation.

Here you can see an old article from 1906 that claims that Arizona has a terminal moraine that looks very similar to the terminal moraine in New York: https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1632410.pdf

  • EVIDENCES OF GLACIATION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA AND NORTHERN SONORA.

  • along the Sonora Railway, south of Nogales, frequent exposures of material resembling in every way, except in its component rocks, that of the terminal moraine of New York and New Jersey. These exposures were between Nogales and Imuris [I believe this area is near where the mound building Hohokam lived].

And here, you can see that Allentown Pennsylvania is the precise location where a glacier stopped it's advance.

/u/TrustTheTruth what is the meaning of this? Are they interested in these areas because they are safe havens, or because they yield scientific evidence about a cataclysmic cycle? Or is this just a coincidence and glaciers were common everywhere?

What do “they” believe?

https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details/The_Great_Pyramid_Void_Enigma_The_Mystery_of_the_H?id=AQAAAEA8VkYWaM&hl=en&gl=US

So this basically confirms the cataclysm theory, then?

  • This book discusses how the Great Pyramid was built by Khufu as an indestructible “recovery vault” to help Egyptian civilization rebuild after an anticipated cataclysm

  • Analyzing the Coptic-Egyptian texts and evidence from astronomy, archaeology, and other sources, the author reveals how the Great Pyramid was built by Khufu as an indestructible recovery vault to help Egyptian civilization rebuild after a cataclysmic natural disaster--a rapid pole shift and subsequent deluge--predicted by his astronomer-priests. And the key component of the recovery vault would have been the Hall of the Ancestors, a sealed safe haven

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CrackinBallsCuh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't disregard your intuition. My mother passed down a few bits of wisdom she learned from her grandparents... among those was to always trust your gut.

I don't claim to understand why, but this extra sense has rarely steered me in the wrong direction.

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CrackinBallsCuh 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just stumbled upon all of this about a week ago thanks to TrustTheTruth and your research. I have been rabidly digging and have no idea if this will help or not but water has a memory of molecules of substances previously dissolved in it. It also reacts to our emotional vibrations and music, and molecules form geometric patterns with positive energy and become scattered and discordant with negative.

We can't measure this, but research has indeed shown that there is probably a quantum (or sub-atomic) interaction beyond what we canmeasure and observe with conventional means. In homeopathic medicine, plant molecules are diluted with water beyond a point that these plant molecules are still measurable, yet still has the same affects as if these molecules were still in the solution.

How does our current scientific understanding of nature allow us to test sub-atomic particles? Where is the giant underground man-made structure located? Is this the 8th wonder of the world? There is no external evidence of anything being done at foxcon except a lot of dirt being moved... Dirt that might displace subterannean tunnels...

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into_the_continuum 8 points ago +8 / -0

Unfortunately you missed half of this conversation because it occurred through private messages. For context, here is what I said to TrustTheTruth in private message:

Did a pole shift draw Racine, Wisconsin to it's current geographic location?

Is Racine "Old Jerusalem"? Do Racine and Jerusalem physically switch places every 12,000+ years?

Since Racine and the Great Lakes are aligned with the galactic center, I was trying to figure out if any other areas on earth had a relationship to the galactic center, so I searched "Jordan River" "Galactic center" and found something very interesting:

Enoch and Elijah – Witnesses to POLE SHIFTS

The most relevant paragraph says: "I believe that cosmic events emanating from the galactic center cause recurring, periodic, and predictable pole shifts on earth.

While this article is interesting, at the bottom, there is another article titled:

ENOCH lived in ATLANTIS – Here is clear evidence that Noah’s grandfather Enoch wrote from a latitude of approximately 50 degrees – nowhere near the Middle East.

This article says Enoch described how the days lengthen during the summer as we move past the equal division of day and night at the spring equinox... The problem is that Enoch's description of the division between day and night is not possible anywhere near the latitude of Israel.

  • A latitude of approximately 50 degrees north or south of the equator would be necessary for a division of the day into 16 and 8 hour sections, as described by Enoch.
  • This means either Enoch was very specific yet very inaccurate – or that he was writing with a perspective nowhere near Israel. His description is a better match for southern Canada, somewhere between the latitude of Quebec and Winnipeg.

What is just South of Canada, between the latitude of Quebec and Winnipeg? The Great Lakes and Racine Wisconsin. As we know, the Great Lakes are aligned with the Galactic Center. How and why did the Great Lakes form?

Did A Comet Hit the Great Lakes Region and Fragment Human Populations, 12,900 Years Ago?

The Lake Agassiz flood in Wisconsin 13,000 years ago may be the cause of the Younger Dryas stadial and also may be the source of many of the worlds flood legends. Enoch was Noahs grandfather...

Is this the Truth that they cannot allow the world to know?

TrustTheTruth responded to my message and posed three questions that I can't answer:

The two locations [Racine and Jerusalem] are opposite each other on the MAP.

What are the Dome of the Rock and Temple Mount?

This is absolutely related to The Truth they cannot allow The World to Know.

What do they fear most?

two things of note:

  1. Apparently "the world is connected to past, present and future" and the MAP is a blueprint where Racine and the Dome of the Rock are on opposite ends. I don't understand this... but it kind of makes sense because the Dome of the Rock is where Jacob had a dream of angels ascending into Heaven on a ladder and the Dome on the Cathedral in Siena depicts Jacobs Ladder. The Siena Retreat Center and the "8th Wonder of the World" are both located in Racine, on the shores of Lake Michigan...

  2. The Dome of the Rock has a cave known as the Well of Souls, believed to be the location of the beginning of the world. There may be an entrance deeper underground because there is a "hollow sounding" slab in the center of the room. This is the place where King David wanted to build a sanctuary.

If the earth periodically undergoes cataclysmic events, is the Dome of the Rock a safe haven? If so, is Racine, Wisconsin also a safe haven? Why would Enoch, who lived in Israel, describe a day and night cycle that matches the Great Lakes?

There is one obvious question that needs answering more than anything else: What possible force could cause the Younger Dryas comet to impact a location on earth that is aligned with the galactic center?

I believe the answer to that question is going to tell us exactly why Racine is such an important and sacred place. Can you shed any more light on this u/TrustTheTruth ?

I am tagging others who follow you because more than one brain is clearly needed to solve this mystery. This question may need it's own thread.

/u/BTFO u/Joshheretohelp u/Q20191776 u/Quelle u/Unreasonable u/summersunset01 u/Headybro420 u/Termin8or u/humanizzimo1

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Joshheretohelp 4 points ago +4 / -0

this dig is insane, friend..

we need the MAP

ley lines of some sort?

ley lines on a Flat Earth map?

"Polar shift" on Flat Earth is way diff than what we know.

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into_the_continuum 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would think a pole shift would preclude the possibility of a flat earth although I do suspect some aspect of the world map that's been fed to the masses is probably a lie. I have no clue what that is, but I suspect it has something to do with antarctica and/or the poles. In the context of this discussion I think it is highly interesting that admiral Byrds expedition to Antarctica was funded in part by Horlick from Racine, and there's a mountain range in Antarctica named after Horlick.

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BTFO 3 points ago +3 / -0

Very very intriguing. You are on to something here. I am headed to bed but will stew on this more tomorrow and see if I come up with anything through some searching.

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CrackinBallsCuh 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is all so fascinating. Thanks for digging so deep into all of this and sharing with the rest of us. I'm sure you've considered it, but is MAP an acronym? One that popped into my head was ___ atomic particles. ____ astral projection

All I can think to add here is the Chicago World fair or "Columbian Expedition" but you've probably already delved into that. It would seem that area was once well established with "Roman" architecture (not unlike most capitol buildings in the US) before being burned to the ground in the early 1900s.

There are hundreds if not thousands of sites like this in North America and the theories range from cataclysm to nuclear war in the 1800s... The (alleged) Empire of Tartary, mudfloods, cargo cult civilization, etc. I have yet to find anything that resonates with me entirely, but it is obvious there has been a monumental cover-up operation that started in the early 1900s and really ramped up toward the mid 1900s.

Also worth noting the Egyptions were also called Aethiopians according to the first edition of Encyclopedia Brittanica.The entire central portion of Africa was once called Aethiopia, and it's adjacent ocean, now called The South Atlantic Ocean, was formerly the Aethiopian Ocean, according to Mercator maps of the 1600s.

Taking this into consideration, it isn't a stretch to say North America could have once been called Atlantis, as the North Atlantic ocean in todays terms is what was once just the Atlantic. Something potentially related might be included in the north pole maps of the 1600s though.

https://mappingiceland.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/208-1-1200x1200.jpg

There are videos uploaded by Jon Levi talking about this stuff on youtube that are shadowbanned. It isn't uncommon for maps to be pretty far off in the time because they used a pretty inaccurate system to measure geographical location, but is it even possible they screwed up that bad with that quadrant island formation thing? I kinda doubt it. I typed some of the text and translated it from latin and it goes into detail about the functions of the stuff like the direction of current flow of rivers separating quadrants and gates at certain entrances etc.

What would seem most likely is one of two scenarios... Either there was some kind of cataclysm recently that has been scrubbed from the history books that buried large portions of geography under water/ice (is this why they're so concerned about ice melting and global warming?) or there is a MASSIVE cover-up regarding most of this stuff, including google maps intentionally blacking out portions of the map (there is a bit of evidence of this too if you look closely). Maybe a combination of both.

There is an extremely well-read guy with a youtube channel by the name of Jason Breshears who claims the Great Pyramid of Egypt was not just an observatory, but mechanical devices that triggers "Phoenix Resets" every 138 years resulting in world wide cataclysms, with the last being in 1902. Supposedly there is a ton of hidden mathematics in the construction of the Pyramid and its chambers. He makes some pretty bold claims, so I take it with a grain of salt, but he does have some pretty compelling evidence in some cases.

The year of Admiral Byrd's expedition coincided with a ton of note-worthy events, from the Babalon Working ritual west of Roswell and the first recorded UFOs, the "invention" of paradigm-shifting technology like the transistor and discovery of silicon augmented with another chemical (can't remember exacly which) to create modern circuit boards, discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls etc.

It's pretty clear that trusting anything modern his-story or scientism teaches us is pretty much the polar opposite of the truth. Sorry if none of this is new to you, or if it is unrelated. Thanks again for digging... don't quit :)

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numina18 1 point ago +1 / -0

Since no one knows the date or time, it's kinda hard to believe you know the place and sort of the time. Sorry. Does not compute.

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TrustTheTruth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Your premise is false.

We know many things few others know.

Try looking into any of them, and be amazed at what you find.

Racine, Wisconsin is the Root and model for the real Agenda.

The Truth has been shared since The Beginning.

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BTFO 2 points ago +2 / -0

No one knows the date or time, except for God, indeed. However God clearly gives us prophecy in the Bible for his followers to know the general timeframe and know when we are getting close. Jesus told us clear as day what will come when we are getting close... and a majority of everything Jesus told us would come has already been fulfilled...

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Hortance -1 points ago +1 / -2

Ephemeral, non-specific "Racine"-fagging is a rabbit trail. No one cares. Lots of easily-to-agree with "Jesus is Truth", "Deny the Mark" etc....NONE of which proves anything about Racine.

On the other hand.... Why not BLAME Racine on "Da Joos!!" and kill 2 birds with one stone?

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TrustTheTruth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Many of the comments are very specific with supportive links to verify.

It is easy to prove that Racine was the gateway pivot district used by Zuckerberg, CTCL, Knight Foundation and other partners to manipulate and rig the Wisconsin election.

Do you want to try to disprove it?

If you don’t care, why are you commenting about it?

If you do agree with Denying the Mark, why not support and share The Truth?

It is not only one group. It is an alliance of groups working toward a common Agenda.

The Synagogue of Satan is one of them.

Why not Repent and help?

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Hortance 0 points ago +1 / -1

YOU should repent, not me.

Did Dems use their normal controls and corruption in cities like Racine to steal the election in Wisc? I'm sure they did. They did the same in dozens of cities at least.

Hilarious that you pretend, when pressed, to cite election corruption as a key element of your claims about Racine when there are dozens and dozens of other cities that did the same and are equally corrupt or moreso...

It doesn't mean Racine is the whole key to defeating the Globalist cabal.

I don't need to disprove anything. You haven't offered anything to disprove yet.

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TrustTheTruth 4 points ago +4 / -0

We did Repent and you should too.

We do not pretend.

Racine is the historic Bellwether district of America, and was the gateway for the “Famous Wisconsin Five”.

Racine was the model used by the other corrupt democrat communities.

Testimony from Kline about this exact “flow of Zuckerberg’s money” to Racine https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1337477357947527171

Election scandal “roots” in Racine https://wisconsinspotlight.com/election-scandal-roots-in-racine/

Did WI-5 mayors break the law? https://wisconsinspotlight.com/did-wi-5-mayors-break-the-law/

Lawsuit: Racine refuses to turn over election documents https://empowerwisconsin.org/lawsuit-racine-refuses-to-turn-over-election-docs/

BREAKING – ‘WISCONSIN HOT’ – Grassroots Group Uncovers 23,000 Votes with Same Phone Number and 8,000 Voters Registered in 1918 All In One County! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/now-wisconsin-hot-grassroots-group-uncovers-23000-votes-phone-number-8000-registered-1918-one-county/

Why they’re being subpoenaed https://wisconsinspotlight.com/why-theyre-being-subpoenaed/

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Hortance 0 points ago +1 / -1

No.

This is all 2020 election stuff...Zuck bucks went all over the country.

You're TRYING to pretend that:

  1. I'm denying election fraud in Racine. A straw man. You'd love it if I did, but I'm not. There was all sorts of fraud nationwide.

  2. That "proving" election fraud in 2020 in Racine will justify 4-5 years "Racine!!" horse crap here and on Voat etc...

Your effort to somehow prove the overall "Racine is the center of Global cabal evil" with the much-easier-to-prove " 2020 election fraud in Racine" --that nobody denies-- just highlights the weakness of the supposed grand conspiracy claims.

Red herring. Rabbit trail.

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TrustTheTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Racine is the head of the “Famous Wisconsin Five”. The mayor of Racine accepted the funding to then get the other 4 mayors involved in a subcommittee under the Racine Council.

They did not refer to them as the “Famous Wisconsin Five” because they were one of many cities that received Zuckerberg and CTCL funding. They were named this because Wisconsin, and specifically, Racine, was the model.

Election fraud is only one of many related crimes that Racine is the model for. Agenda 21 and 2030 is another. Community Policing is another. Water rights is another. Transportation is another. Prisons and youth detentions are another. Education is another. It goes on and on.

Racine is the central meeting place of the global cabal. It has been for generations.

Repent and help. Why won’t you?

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Hortance 0 points ago +1 / -1

Agenda 21!

2030!

Racine mayor!

yawn.

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Deplorable69 17 points ago +17 / -0

Compared to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, England, France the U.S.has seen nothing yet. The full blown tribulation has yet to hit.

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GoingCamaro 8 points ago +8 / -0

The US will never be as hard hit as those other places especially in deep red territory. Contrary to what the Dumb Ass Administration wants you to believe, they DON'T have any real power and authority. We still have our guns, which ensures our freedom. On top of that, red territory is capable of self sustaining almost seamlessly. A lot of people still grow their own food. I know the Bill Gates fear porn has been circulating, but that "majority farmland" is for the mass production for the over-bloated cities.

They know this. They know that independent free spirited mindset is alive and well and they can do fuck all to get us to comply. Whatever they try is more likely to blow up in their faces.

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inutterable 4 points ago +4 / -0

They fully rely on the goodwill of the Good People who don't want to starve, kill, and destroy those whom they disagree with. They take advantage because every Good person knows that there's no going back if you let yourself go down that path.

God help them if they push too hard, one day.

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GoingCamaro 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. I'm not afraid of what the government will try to do. I'm afraid of what it will turn me into if they go too far.

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QBranch 15 points ago +15 / -0

No, because Jesus answers 3 specific questions in Matthew 24, not just 1. The first one, "When will these things happen?" is in direct response to the judgment Christ had just declared over Jerusalem and the temple. This was fulfilled in AD 70 in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by the Romans, which, if you know anything about it, you know it was a time of absolutely intense misery and destruction for the entire Jewish nation. They starved and tortured the entire city for months and killed thousands upon thousands of Jews in other regions as well before it finally ended.

This is the "great tribulation," and the signs Jesus said would lead up to it, historically, absolutely did occur. The culmination of these signs was the "abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place," which is simply referred to in the parallel passage in Luke as armies surrounding Jerusalem. Church history records that believers in Judea who heeded Christ's message were able to escape the torment and ride out the storm in a city called Pella.

However, in his response to the final question his disciples ask him, about the "end of the age (world)", Jesus does not provide any signs to look for but says that no man can know the day or the hour, and that it will come unexpectedly. Why would he give all those signs about the "great tribulation" but then say there are no signs at all to give away the end of the world? Because they're not the same thing and are separated (we know now) by a great distance of time. This might have been hard for first century Jews to accept given their general expectations of what the Messiah would be (a conquering warrior) and how important Jerusalem and the temple were to their entire religious way of life.

There's so much more to unpack, obviously. I know a lot of this will seem weird to most believers here because American Christianity has been heavily steeped in dispensationalism for quite some time now. I'm so happy to see all the expressions of faith in God's word on this forum, but lovingly, you guys should know that dispensationalism has only been a popular(ish) Christian belief for the last hundred years or so, and can only be traced back to the 1800s. It is not the historic view of the church and a great many people who take the scriptures very seriously, including (I think) most believing Bible scholars, do not hold to it today.

Satan is defeated and God's kingdom is growing in the world. Evil will not utterly and completely take over but will continue to be removed from authority. Jesus Christ is Lord and will reign until every enemy is under his feet.

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ythehorses 5 points ago +5 / -0

Amen. This is the exact view that I now have, thanks to outstanding teachers. And, I think this view is growing, as it makes much more sense and the Bible spells it out clearly when you pay attention. Jesus is ruling and reigning right now.

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Andy_Man45 1 point ago +1 / -0

Word of God,

Revelation 19 KJV 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

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Hawkerbuff77 5 points ago +5 / -0

Very, very well said my brother...exactly!

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BlueDo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks for writing this up. My group recently did a study on eschatology, and my mind was blown as I had never heard of partial-preterism. Even more confounding is that it was a prevailing viewpoint and had been lost in recent times.

For anyone wondering, this is a summary of the Atrocity that is the Fall of Jerusalem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC3nUrJutsM

That is far worse than anything we're experiencing today. We're not being burned at the stake. We're not prevented from buying/selling, at least not yet. The world has been getting better for the Christians. We may experience ups and downs, but the message has been spreading throughout the globe and God's blessings have been increasing.

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hippielouie [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

this is what i've been thinking for yrs. ty

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imahindend 10 points ago +10 / -0

No.

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inutterable 10 points ago +10 / -0

I'm glad you grabbed a few of these, because a lot of them include warnings in their context not to jump to conclusions that we're in the end times until you see a very specific sign. For instance, 2 Thessalonians. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%202&version=NIV

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

Have your eyes open for the man who sets himself in God's place. There are several candidates for this alive and in power now, but there always have been. In fact, it's a standard tactic of the Devil. In the same letter, Paul continues:

7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works.

The devil uses these tactics all the time, because he is always trying to start the End Times. There have been signs of the End in every Era of man since prior to Christ. Satan tempting Christ aligned with the signs. Xerxes declared himself to be higher than God. The rise of Communism multiple times (red beast, many horns). Nazi Socialism. The Crusades. It happens over and over.

We're up against an evil with a specific goal. If we fail, the End Times and the Tribulations will certainly be here. God will smash down His judgements on the earth like never seen before. Just read the seventh bowl of God's wrath. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+16%3A17-21&version=NIV

18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

Know what that sounds like to me? The Yellowstone Caldera. A super volcano literally splitting a continent.

Truly the wrath of God waiting. We must not fail.

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Callmejuls 3 points ago +3 / -0

For with the mighty power of prayer we will and have God given authority through the Holy Spirit to stay (delay) the hand of God by prayer, petition and fasting (this is spoken of many times through the Old Testament in the books about the prophets

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Hawkerbuff77 6 points ago +6 / -0

With all due respect, you cannot apply this portion of scripture to our day...what's being warned about here was the complete destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD. This is very clear if you step away from these so called Biblical Scholars like Hal Lindsey. Jesus said plainly...Matthew 24:34..."Verily I say unto you, This generation (the generation to whom He was speaking...the generation to whom He was speaking...the generation to whom He was speaking!) THIS GENERATION...shall not pass, till ALL these things be fulfilled."

Was Jesus lying when He said that? Not at all...because it happened exactly like he told that generation when Rome sacked the entire Jewish world of the time. It was utter and complete devastation that had never been seen and never would be seen again! God was doing numerous things during this generation. First, He was ENDING the entire Jewish system of worship (Covenant) and replacing it with our Savior...Jesus Christ. God was dealing with the sick and utterly satanic worship practices of the Jewish leaders of that day. God was dealing with the fact that those same Jewish leaders had crucified the Savior...God in human flesh...love incarnate! Finally...God was dealing the final blow to satan's plan to ruin God's plan for His greatest creation...mankind. Instead of satan winning his pathetic desire to destroy all mankind forever (because everyone had sinned and will sin)...our gracious and loving Father in His wisdom and love, completely turned the tables on the evil one.

These charlatans who continue to preach Darbyism from the pulpit are doing the worst kind of "watering down" the true power of what God was doing during that period of time...during that generation. By teaching people this blatant misinterpretation, one is actually taking away from the real impact that Jesus death and resurrection should mean to the world. Instead of holding His ultimate, one-time sacrifice to mankind as the pinnacle of all history and histories events, Christians and indeed some Secularists are looking to a future, more important and devastating event!

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hippielouie [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

thx, yes i think this has a 1st literal fulfillment but i do think that there may be a greater spiritual fulfilment still to come, idk this is why i asked above question....i'm still learning btw i don't listen to those preachers

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ivinmecter 5 points ago +5 / -0

Has the Anti-christ been revealed? If you're going to pick/choose verses, there are probably a few (dozen) others you might want to pick. Or, not. Carry on.

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hippielouie [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

true there r many other verses i could've included.

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

No

That happened from 66ad to 70ad.

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B1GdickBonanza 4 points ago +4 / -0

the first 3 1/2 years of trib started about 6 months into Trumps presidency, we just entered the last 3 1/2 years. look up the sep 12th sign of 2016 and do the math. it baffles me that no one realises we are smack dab in the middle of tribulation. what people dont also realise is that this is the worst time in history, look at the numbers worldwide. death, kidnappings, beheadings, china... just because its not all happening at once and not on your doorstep (yet) doesnt mean it isnt happening.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +2 / -1

The 7 years of Tribulation you're referring to come from Daniel 9:24-27, which was part of a 490 year prophecy.

Daniel 9:24-27

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

In prophecy, a day symbolizes a year. As there are 490 days in a 70 week period (70 X 7 = 490), this equates to 490 years.

Thy people = God's chosen people, the Israel of old

The Israelites had 490 years to do what?

  1. Finish the transgression
  2. Make an end of sins
  3. Make reconciliation for iniquity
  4. Bring in everlasting righteousness
  5. Seal up the vision and propehcy
  6. Anoint the most Holy

All 6 of these things could only have been fulfilled by the Messiah, Yashua AKA Jesus Christ.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

It took 49 years (7 weeks) to rebuild the temple and an additional 434 years (threescore and 2 weeks = 62 weeks) until Messiah the Prince arrived.

Christ's ministry began roughly around 27 AD, which marks the end of that 483 year period.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

These two verses describe the 7 years which pre-Tribulation rapture dispensationalists magically move into an undetermined future.

Christ was crucified in 30 AD, roughly 3.5 years into the last 7 years of this prophecy AKA in the midst or middle of the week. Did this not cause the sacrificial system and oblation to cease?

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whatdayisit 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is an interesting take. You're right, I would expect it to be on the doorstep. Yet there are Christians persecuted daily. But shouldn't the first 3.5 years been marked with peace? We've not seen that yet.

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Cap_Jangles19 3 points ago +3 / -0

Again Folks the Bible was hijacked again it's a good thing to reference but it's not golden. Take a reference not like for like. There is actually 777 Books in the Bible and only 66 Books in the current Bible. It's been hijacked so again take with a somewhat pinch of salt.

Have faith and also if it's states The Lord in the Bible it means Lucifer. Only the father/GOD is the true GOD or Higher Being.

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whatdayisit 3 points ago +6 / -3

Look up the Berisheet prophecy on YT. We just watched it and it's mind blowing. Basically tribulation will start 2023 for 7 year trib to the 1000 year reign of Jesus culminating in the destruction in 3030. It fulfills Daniel's 7000 year prophecy and outlines it beautifully with explanations of the Hebrew language.

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MaudeMotrin 24 points ago +24 / -0

Nobody can know the day or the hour. It comes as a thief in the night.

Mar 13:32

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

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whatdayisit 13 points ago +13 / -0

Positively nor does it say the day or hour. It does say we should be aware of the season. And to have our lamp trimmed with oil. This should be good news for every Christian.

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anon82059 7 points ago +7 / -0

You're right, though Jesus also makes clear that those who are watching for the signs will see it coming. I'd imagine we'll be able to predict with increasing accuracy as the time nears. But we're not there yet, IMO

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hippielouie [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

ty

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whatdayisit 3 points ago +4 / -1

This outlines why there are 2 distinct events of Jesus in a rapture and the 2nd coming. Based on Bible.

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suave200 3 points ago +4 / -1

perhaps we can know the year.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 10 points ago +10 / -0

Daniel didn't have a 7000 year prophecy.

Daniel 9:24-27 describes a 490 year prophecy, and it's impossible to move the the last 7 years of that prophecy into some undetermined time in the future without breaking the chiasm, just as you can't remove the last sentence in a nursery rhyme while preserving the rhyme.

Yashua AKA Jesus Christ was crucified in the middle of the last 7 years of that prophecy. The Jews were still given an additional 3.5 years to accept Him as their Messiah.

When they did not, the Gospel message and salvation was opened to the Gentiles. The stoning of Stephen ordered by the high priest marked the end of the 490 years.

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Andy_Man45 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thank you.

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whatdayisit 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sorry I meant the 70 week prophesy. So you don't think there's anything to the 7 day cycle, a day is like a 1000 to God? The way the math lines up is pretty close to what we're seeing and you can't deny the math from creation to crucifixion that they outline. Why would a God of order and not chaos go outside that order that he preordained? I don't think he would. Again, we don't know the hour but we do know the season. I do believe in rapture the more I read.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 6 points ago +6 / -0

The Bible states only Yahweh knows the time and the hour. Even Yashua AKA Jesus Christ does not know.

The rapture doesn't happen until the second coming of Christ, which only happens AFTER the third temple is built in Jerusalem and the Antichrist reveals himself.

There's most definitely a rapture but there will be nothing secret about it.

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Andy_Man45 4 points ago +4 / -0

A third temple would be a blasphemy against the blood of Christ and therefore can never be considered holy nor made desolate.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who is King Cyrus, and why did Netanyahu compare him to Trump?

I want to tell you that the Jewish people have a long memory, so we remember the proclamation of the great king, Cyrus the Great, the Persian king 2,500 years ago. He proclaimed that the Jewish exiles in Babylon could come back and rebuild our Temple in Jerusalem. We remember a hundred years ago, Lord Balfour, who issued the Balfour Proclamation that recognized the rights of the Jewish people in our ancestral homeland. We remember 70 years ago, President Harry S. Truman was the first leader to recognize the Jewish state. And we remember how a few weeks ago, President Donald J. Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Mr. President, this will be remembered by our people through the ages.

Benjamin Netanyahu

https://www.timesofisrael.com/who-is-king-cyrus-and-why-is-netanyahu-comparing-him-to-trump/

Archived link- https://archive.is/WWO6h

The Coming Temple?

Filmed in the Old City of Jerusalem, this ground-breaking documentary investigates the research of renowned Biblical archaeologists, Bob Cornuke, David Sielaff and Earnest L. Martin who claim that Solomon and Herod's Temples never stood on the Haram al Sharif, also known as the Temple Mount. If they are right, then there is nothing to stop the Jewish people building their long awaited for Third Jewish Temple in the actual site where the Temples once stood. But is tradition too strong? We'll see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTO8YYs29c

The Temple | Bob Cornuke

Can you imagine the upheaval in political and religious thinking if the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is not the site of Solomon's and Herod's temples? And what if the stones of the Wailing Wall are not what tradition says? In this highly-researched, exciting book, the author proposes from current archaeological excavations and Scriptural corroboration that the true temple location is not where tradition teaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKqDx3RDCos

The Mikdash Educational Center even minted coins with Trump's image on them and are using the proceeds to rebuild the temple.

https://en.hamikdash.org.il/building-the-third-temple/

That third temple will be built and the Antichrist will reveal himself at that time.

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Andy_Man45 2 points ago +2 / -0

1 Corinthians 3 KJV 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Acts 17:24 KJV God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

John 2:19 KJV Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think you understand.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-10

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

The man of sin AKA the Antichrist will reveal himself after the third temple is built.

I'm not trying to say the third temple is a good thing, but it's simply a fact it is in the process of being built as we speak.

In fact, the Mikdash Educational Center is searching around the world for an umblemished red heifer-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP080qXU_E

The Jewish Messiah will be the Antichrist.

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MatildaJ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes! I heard about tgat and saw the doco. They need water for the daily sacrifice and there is none at the dome of the rock.

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MatildaJ 1 point ago +1 / -0

The 3rd Temple is already built. It’s just not in place. They have built the frame, the implements have been made, the robes for the High Priests,, the curtains, the furniture, and even the Red Calf has been found. The High Priests have been trained to serve and have been verified from the Tribe that supplied the High Priests. These things can be put in place very quickly and are hidden away.

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Andy_Man45 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are correct with the 7000 year clock as told in Genesis Chapter 1. It is even possible to know the day, if you use the correct calendar. God didn't change times and laws, the roman empire did. The Hebrew calendar and the cycle of Jubilees will get you close, but the problem is knowing when God stopped or even turned back time.

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Callmejuls 3 points ago +3 / -0

Matthew 24:36 ‘However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

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rcw589 1 point ago +1 / -0

Jesus said this that he didn't even know the day or hour when these things will happen. He said this before he was resurrected. He has returned to the right hand of the Father and the scriptures do not tell us all that the Father has revealed to him about the future upon his return. We do know that the book of Revelation tells us in the 1st verse that it is "the Revelation of Jesus Christ." It is not the Revelation from Jesus Christ but Revelation of Jesus Crist which he has received from our heavenly Father.. So Jesus is at the Father's right hand and is now sharing with John the things the Father has revealed to him. The book of Revelation is mostly about the end times. We are also introduced to the book with the 7 seals which are the events and timing of things to come. These are just a few thoughts for consideration.

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmm, interesting

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

I did learn from our old pastor who was Jewish and quite knowledgeable of Hebrew language, culture, history and tradition that a time, times and half a time mentioned in (I believe it is Daniel-(someone please correct me if I am wring) was three and a half years)

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Daniel 7 describes a different vision and has nothing to do with the 490 year prophecy.

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never specified where exactly it was.

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ultra_star 4 points ago +4 / -0

You ought to stay out of the Berisheet nonsense. It is well-loved by many rabbis (not Christian) who don't believe in the existing messiah--Jesus. They've been working out all the Torah Code stuff for years, and have previously "decoded" and shown that the end of the world will be in 2020 and etc... (which did NOT happen, as you may notice).

I've seen all this stuff for decades: anybody remember "88 Reasons He's Coming in 1988"? Then "89 Reasons He's Coming in 1989"? I even had friends who sold all they owned because they believed Harold Camping's end date (then his next one, then his next one...).

This is another con job. But if you're looking for your first failed apocalypse-- enjoy!

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whatdayisit 4 points ago +4 / -0

Definitely not rabbis and Definitely a Christian take. Scripture says we will recognize each other by their fruits. That's love, patience, self control, etc....Not slamming others that are of one Church. The body on earth.

It even says the Jews need to wake up and realize Jesus is the savior

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ultra_star 7 points ago +7 / -0

The Beresheet stuff originated in the Jewish community, not the Christian community, fren. I don't mean to pry, but are you Catholic? Oftentimes, those who have been indoctrinated into papist religion are not able to discern Jewish theological falsehoods because the Catholic church has instilled much of the Jewish into her adherents.

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whatdayisit 6 points ago +6 / -0

Ex!!!! This really does outline in from Christian perspective. I'm a former hospice nurse. I was caring for a deacon as he was dying and he said the keys to Peter are a lie. It took another year and a health crisis to get us out of the catholic church from diligent prayer from my son.

We go to a Bible believing Church and have lifegroups. Our life is now a living testimony to God being Jevohah Jireh and we have nothing without him. Thank you fren for the kind inquiry. I am admittedly learning still. Catholics do not believe in rapture fyi....I do.

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Shalimar 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was raised a strict Catholic - Catholics most definitely DO believe in the rapture.

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whatdayisit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting. The catholic church I left taught that Revelation was actually the mass celebrated. They also taught the purgatory lie and give more to spare your loved ones from fire. It was twisted. They did not beleive in a rapture though, not as I understand it now, pre trib

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Shalimar 3 points ago +3 / -0

Never had revelation taught as Mass celebrated - and mom says they dropped the purgatory line. Smh - never know - I do know they corrupt.

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TheoRoy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also Jehovah is a mistranslation by a mediocre Hebrew scholar who is in that "failed end times" camp. I'd be wary, if JWitnesses is the group you are a part of. You need to leave and find a church that confesses a triune God and The aposltes Creed at least. Preferably the Athanasian Creed - you can ask the pastor.

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whatdayisit 3 points ago +3 / -0

No! Definitely not a JW. The pastor came from an Assemblies of God church. It's really more non dom. Encourages us to test it against scripture.

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TheoRoy 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is good bibilical teaching to "Question everything; hold on to the good" I'd still make sure you're confessing Christ crucified for you, a triune God and The Apostles Creed.

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is clearly spelled out 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Luke 17:34-37 - I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. (Read More...)

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Revelation 3:10 - Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Mark 13:32 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Matthew 24:29-31 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Daniel 12:1-2 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Read More...)

1 Thessalonians 5:9 - For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Matthew 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Luke 12:40 - Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Revelation 20:2-5 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (Read More...)

1 Thessalonians 5:2 - For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Luke 17:34 - I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-7 - Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (Read More...)

Mark 13:32-37 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. (Read More...)

Matthew 24:27 - For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

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TheoRoy 4 points ago +4 / -0

KeK This man is a Lutheran. Nobody else uses that beautiful word. "Papists" I love the smalcald articles.

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ultra_star 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not a Lutheran per se but certainly familiar with Smalcald Articles and Melancthon's "Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope" and other such documents exposing the manifold falsehoods undergirding the cult of popery.

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TheoRoy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ahh right I see you, I'm inclined similarly except I grew up Lutheran. Those guys are good reads! Luther is hilarious and an absolute roast master.

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen

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Callmejuls 2 points ago +2 / -0

Matthew 24:36 ‘However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

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catsfive 2 points ago +4 / -2

Daniel is my favourite book. I find the 7000 year thing in Daniel to be a bit of a stretch, IMO

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Munchaussen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doubtful.

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Startingfromseed 3 points ago +3 / -0

YES WE ARE!

The tribulation started in 2016, when Hillary was “supposed” to win the election. If she had won then it would have been hell on Earth. What we are witnessing is a soft core movie version of what would have happened. Patriots are in control. You are watching a movie.

Based on a 2016 start we are looking at 2023 to be the end of tribulation and the start of the Golden Age ie Heaven on Earth.

All glory to God. ❤️😇

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Magistra 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am digging into Revelation with Chuck Missler and loving it. Since I found out the truth about the Bible (kingdom of God, new Heaven and new earth, the Lion nature of Jesus, etc) last year I settled into the post trib camp. Now I am becoming open to pre-trib, but still hold some reservations. Missler asks a couple of thought provoking questions: what is the church? & what is the purpose of the great tribulation? I am still personally struggling with this.

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Shine382106 2 points ago +2 / -0

Give Melissa over at FreedomForce.Live a look. You might find some keys in her teachings to take to the Lord. Ask God these questions that you have. He will tell you the answer.

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hippielouie [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

'...on earth as in......' Lord's prayer since i was a kid i've wondered bout this

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numina18 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, not yet. It will be obvious.

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CK_Killinger 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good on you for posting our Heavenly Fathers Word! I do not believe we are there . . . yet. Too much unfulfilled scriptures; Christ is returning for a bride that is spotless and without blemish. Todays Church needs a hot bath Jesus said "Greater things will you do . . ." Hasn't happened yet

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Andy_Man45 2 points ago +2 / -0

who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

Look upon Rome, the 4th beast/kingdom of Daniel, of which there are only 4 kingdoms.

Daniel 7:23-25 KJV Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

There can be no better description than this.

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yldngo 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's not as bad as it could be, but it is ready to get there fast. Read 2 Chronicles. Things got real bad at times. Eating babies bad actually. We are not exactly them but the choice is ours to interact with God along the same lines. 2 Chonicles 7:14. This is our generations crisis of faith. We will stand by kneeling before God or we will watch this world fall by kneeling to evil.

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hippielouie [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

...leading to a cry of peace n security

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Rubieroo 2 points ago +2 / -0

No. But throughout history there have been foreshadowing events with similar markers.

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Wexit-Delecto 2 points ago +2 / -0

1Thes 5.3,4 While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; An event which encompasses the whole world.

Isaiah 24:19, 20 The earth is broken asunder, The earth is split through, The earth is shaken violently. The earth reels to and fro like a drunkard and it totters like a shack.

I can't get this site out of my mind. Dude ODed on ritalin and attained levels of autism no one thought possible. When he woke up, he had concluded that we are living in the end times, which are coming before 2025.

https://amallulla.org

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hippielouie [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

i don't don't post very often, reply some. however, i wanna thank all of u for ur contribution to my question. i greatly appreciate it!!

i was spiritually shattered several yrs back n have been picking up the pieces ever since. i'm trying to determine truth, from man's interpretation, which i find hard to do. again, thx!!!!

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photobuf 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kek! The "Great Tribulation" is actually the LAST 3.5 years of a 7 year period and the "Man of Sin" will ruling most of the earth so no, this is not the Great Tribulation------YET! I personally am going to miss it---being raptured before it begins. Watch Jerusalem and the news around it. THAT is where it will be happening!

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The dead in Christ shall rise first, and those who are his who are still alive are caught up in the clouds, and that's at the second coming of Christ.

Those who are still alive who are not in Christ will die and will remain dead for 1000 years, until Judgement Day.

There is no pre-Tribulation rapture.

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photobuf 1 point ago +1 / -0

You hang around for the Trib, I'm outta here!

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ythehorses 2 points ago +2 / -0

The video that rocked my world a couple years ago:

The Great Tribulation & End of the Age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PephsKFuQc

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hippielouie [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

thx saved

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Jackdagger 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah this seems tame compared to the tribulation. These people don't even have the backing to enforce anything. If they had military kicking in doors and murdering in mass it would be a little more convincing but still probably not dark enough.

Also during the tribulation the antichrist is LOVED and deceives the nation's. I would argue there is not a single politician who is that widely loved not even Trump. Also no one is performing miracles.

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LambofLiberty 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you’re a dispensationalist, you might think so 🤷‍♂️

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MatildaJ 1 point ago +1 / -0

The called out Body of Christ - the Born Again Believers - His Church - are still on earth. When His Church is removed, along with the Holy Spirit - and don’t forget it is the Holy Spirit within His Church, that are holding back complete evil, then the tribulation will begin. That includes little babies, toddlers and children too that will be removed from earth also. The signs are all around! Those that become Believers within the tribulation period, will probably be martyred for their new faith. How will they become Believers? When the Holy Spirit is removed, He is replaced by the Two Witnesses. They will prophesy for 1,260 days. Anyone trying to harm them will be struck down. But they will finally be killed and the people will come and gloat but will be too scared to bury their bodies which are left in the city square. After 3 days, they get up and people are terrified. An earthquake hits the city and 7000 are killed. But many more give glory to God. The world then enters the 2nd half of the tribulation- the worse part.

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Munchaussen 1 point ago +1 / -0

NO!!!~ These days are a "type of" and not the Final Days etc. etc.

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ultra_star 1 point ago +1 / -0

If these trials and tribulations are so bad that you think they are the final Tribulation, you need to get some steel in your spine so you will be ready when the real thing comes along.

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hippielouie [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

i was just asking the question, never said i thought we r

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ultra_star 1 point ago +1 / -0

Throw a brick into a pack of dogs. The one that barks is the one that got hit.

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VesemirsPotions0317 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not until wormwood comes through hot

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Fuhqreddit 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would be crushed if my babies were raptured away.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. We are spared from the wrath to come however the Greek word thelipsis means mental pressure and is translated tribulation. After we are gathered together with the Lord the tribulation starts. Imagine, nobody left on earth supplicating God for help. It will be pure hell for those still here.

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Hortance 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tribulation is SATAN's wrath. Then comes Judgement.

No mentions of rapture before 1830s....US preachers like Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon....ONLY spoke of second coming...

There's ONE place in the Bible where a thorough discussion of Christians in the end times....Jesus, answering His disciples question "What will happen to US?"

Matthew 24.

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StageL3ft 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dasting how these troubling times happen to be happening during the 7 year period between 2 rare solar eclipses crossing. In the past when this has occured, the country it crosses over has seen judgement and change on a large scale.

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Squidpup 1 point ago +1 / -0

No

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whatdayisit 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://youtu.be/PtATSQx3cjI

Maybe this will work

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summerstormAK 1 point ago +1 / -0

Listening to all of you disagree reminds me of Bible College, which I attended eons ago. I feel today as I did then - what difference does it make? BE RIGHT WITH THE LORD AND BE READY. That's all that matters. The rest is drivel.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't disagree with anyone. I just believe what I believe and shared it with the questioner. I'm born again so I. Right with the lord as you say.