I am in shock and have been crying a lot. All I know is she was not vaccinated, did have some medical issues, was sick for a week, and went to the emergency room. They said she had healthy vitals (she did have co-morbidities and was older). Very shortly thereafter they said she took a turn for the worse and put her in ICU. She died early this morning.
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I'm so sorry for your loss :-( .
You might want to get an independent autopsy done. If the hospital did anything wrong, the records will somehow change to make it look like they did everything right.
Thank you. Her husband and son are already arranging cremation. They aren't awake regarding any of this. I was hoping the hospital records would be attainable by me... and that they would show what they gave her......
I'm realizing so many have had this happen and then probably decided that, since the person was already gone, they would let it go because they were overwhelmed with grief.
Your sister‘s husband will have to go the medical records department in the hospital during working hours 8 to 5. Request a copy of her medical file. There will be a small fee. I paid $8.00 for my mother’s.
Edit: explain to her husband that it is the family’s right to have that information and it is a common request.
If family members put up a fight about getting this information, explain how relatives health issues can "run in the family" and you want to be in the know
Nice. That’s a good one. Go at it from the “health” angle.
"Your sister‘s husband will have to go the medical records department in the hospital during working hours 8 to 5. Request a copy of her medical file. There will be a small fee. I paid $8.00 for my mother’s.
****Edit: explain to her husband that it is the family’s right to have that information and it is a common request.********"
Umm....no. Your sister's husband is grieving. Give him time.
As next of kin, they will have to release the records to him. They will likely NOT release the records to you.
After giving him time....you can ask for them.
He may say 'no'.
My experience, when I buried my wife. YMMV.
I think you’re replying to the wrong person.
The quote was 2 up from yours. I believe you agreed with that person and said : "Nice. That’s a good one. Go at it from the “health” angle." in reply to : "explain how relatives health issues can "run in the family" and you want to be in the know" in reply to the OP, who I quoted.
I'm disagreeing with both of you. Yeah.....the OP wants to know.
His sister died. He wants answers, and he's bitching online.
Tough shit. His sister's husband is burying her. He was living with her every day. He's trying to explain it to their child. He's making the arrangements. He's paying the bills.....funeral, medical, and supporting both himself and his child.
Maybe the OP doesn't make demands right now. If he does, he probably won't like the answer.
I would use the "health" angle AND say that he (husband) should get the medical file in case there are discrepancies/over billing so he won't overpay for anything that should be covered by insurance.
THIS! Hospital killed my aunt and before her death certificate he received the hospital bill ... over $800,000!!! He went straight to get the records and they are FULL of discrepancies. This would be the easiest way to get him to pull the records if he's still asleep. So sorry for your loss...I'm still not over what they did to my aunt and doubt I ever will be. My uncle is talking to a few lawyers about everything.
Even better. Damn you know your way around.
I may do that in a few weeks, especially if they need help with her affairs. Thank you.
Yes, that too!
HIPAA won't allow it unless she signed the papers for it.
I have been gathering info throughout the day from family (I am in another state). She was sick for a week... they took her into the hospital. After no family was allowed back they said things were bad, the lining around her heart was affected... and then she had heart failure the same night. If I can get the records, I will check on that piece of it too. Thank you.
Sorry to hear about this.
You mentioned the lining of her heart...did she live with or work closely with vaxxed people?
The people I know who are unvaxxed and living with a vaxxed person get just about as sick.
If you can intervene to get an autopsy that is gold standard. Sometimes the local sheriff/police will assert that they need it for a criminal investigation, but you have might have to file criminal charges, like negligence for them to act on it and there are fees. However, having it is the ace in the hole of a court case.
It's admirable that you're willing to fight when most people would give up due to their grief. I hope you can find out what happened.
Yes autopsy. If it's a covid death i hear the government pays $10,000 for funeral expenses if you elect not to get one. Autopsy is a must if you want to know what really happened.
Medical Residents are often tasked with this work both knowingly and unkowingly.
Remdesivir. If they gave her remdesivir they cold blooded murdered her.
I have a new born son with health complications, they tried to pull some shit because he had been sitting on the hospital for 8months and told us he had covid.
They told us they were going to give him meds to "make him better". Knowing better I asked what they were, one was a steroid the other was remdesivir.
I told the doctor absolutely not on remdesivir (saved my son's life) antibiotics and steroids are fine.
2 days later they retested him and wouldn't you know, no covid.
Some of these hospital systems are trying to cold blood kill people for that covid money.
Never forget that.
Same thing just happened with my dad not even a week ago. We declined Remdisivir because antibiotics were working. It was bacterial yet they wanted to treat for Covid.
antibiotics are anti-bacteria, not antiviral iirc. Edit: read that wrong sorry.
God bless you for protecting your child...prayers he is recovered or recovering...
He is doing very well! He was born with some genetic issues, (mom's side) I have a 3 year old. It who is completely healthy as well.
Currently the baby is on a cpap device but hopefully by the end of the year he will not be dependent on any devices.
The power of prayer works wonders.
Wonderful to hear. Will keep him in my prayers..
Don't forget the organs they get on the back end.
Thank God your son survived! Hospitals are killing fields.
WOW! Thank you for sharing. That is amazing.
My guess is they put her on remdesivir and then followed the god awful murder protocol
I'm wondering that... it was so fast, but she was sick for a week before she went in. They said the lining around her heart was infected.
Are you sure she wasn't vaxxed? There are many cases of this affecting those who took the shot(s). Sorry for your loss.
100%. She was reading and watching videos on this stuff 24/7.
Yup. Might have lied about the no vax
Sorry for your loss
Ask if the infection was bacterial and if any antibiotics were administered. My dad was septic last week but tested negative for Covid 4 times. They gave antibiotics since the Covid tests were coming back negative. When the 5th test came back positive, they wanted to switch to Remdisivir and steroids even though antibiotics were working. No doubt in my mind if he had tested positive on the first test, he would not be alive today because they wouldn’t have given antibiotics for what we now know was a bacterial infection.
Well I don’t have oxygen tanks just hanging out in my house but thanks for your input
I now see, since it finally happened to someone I love, that there are many people that can't avoid the hospital. My friend told me a story of someone she knows. He went in with a broken bone and they killed him with the remdisivir within a week or so.
Best fast source of O2 is aviation oxygen. You can get it mail order quickly. Cylinders are small, meant for individual use in light aircraft. Did my father a world of good when he needed it.. There are also the filter type oxygen concentrates using a zeolite as a filter that gets periodically back-flushed. These are pricey though, couple hundred $.
So sorry about the loss of your sister. Praying for your family and hoping you find answers. 💔🙏
I’m sorry for your loss. May your sister Rest In Peace. How old was she and what other co morbidities did she have, if you don’t mind sharing.
She was 70, not morbidly obese but the normal over-the-years heavy. She had circulation issues her whole life (legs swelling, etc.) That was pretty much it.
Very sad, heartfelt condolences.
Very sorry to hear about the death of your sister, OP.
I found this link about the subject:
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/consumers/sharing-family-friends.pdf
So if you are suspicious about the Hospital's actions, I would expect they would not give you any information, but would direct you to speak with her husband.
Thanks for this... that's what I was thinking.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Did your sister have a legal power of attorney? By law that person has access to her medical records.
If she did, it was probably for her husband or son. Her husband was super into the vax. They were polar opposites. I'm still getting info but I think she got covid from him. Since she has passed, he'll likely be doubling down on his belief and see no need to get them.
Oh, dang!
Her husband killed her.
She had circulation problems. He is super vaxxed to the max.
Whether or not she got covid from him, she certainly got whatever else vaxxies transmit.
A person who is in the study AND has contact with someone who is NOT in the study has to inform the investigator within 24 hours of said contact.
Her family should prepare to sue.
Think I'm kidding?
From: https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf
A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS
8.3.5.3. Occupational Exposure
An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with the study intervention, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an AE.
Such persons may include healthcare providers, family members, and other roles that are involved in the trial participant’s care.
The investigator must report occupational exposure to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s awareness, regardless of whether there is an associated SAE. The information must be reported using the Vaccine SAE Report Form. Since the information does not pertain to a participant enrolled in the study, the information is not recorded on a CRF; however, a copy of the completed Vaccine SAE Report Form is maintained in the investigator site file.
Power of attorney ends when a person dies. The rights to handle that person's estate then go to the executor, once authorized.
Get an autopsy. Normally not done if under a doctor’s care.
Sincere condolences to you and yours.
If husband and son are not informed on these issues, then that's the battle you're truly up against. Wondering how she was not vaccinated but yet the family wasn't 'in the know' on these issues.
Also agree with other comments about independent autopsy, but it may not be yours to decide if husband isn't willing or able to afford. Husband trumps all.
We're all mourning with you. Most of us will have, or will be, watching similar events play out among our loved ones who believed the lies, or just got stuck needing to use the broken medical system.
Prayers.
Thanks fren. They were on opposite sides. She couldn't talk to him about any of it. This has hit me hard... I feel sorry for not really recognizing how many people are mourning... I glossed over the stories. Now I know.
It will be very difficult to get her records unless her husband, possibly her son if he's another POA, requests them. You may have to get a lawyer and sue. I'm assuming you are not her POA yourself, when I say all of this. I had to get my Dad to request the pathology report from the hospital that dx my mom with cancer. They may have released the report to me since it had been decades. I wanted to request them only if my dad couldn't. My husband is my poa but I also listed my son if husband is incapacitated. RIP to your sister.🙏
Thank you. I will come back and find you if I get that far. I truly appreciate it.
You are allowed to request all the records, chart notes, etc. I've had to do that for a law suit involving a recently passed family member's estate. You may need to go through a lawyer. Be sure to ask for the full notes. I recall we got a summary level at first. A difference from 50 pages to 300 pages.
Condolences my fren, prayers going out for you and yours.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m sure someone here can help.
So sorry for your loss!
So sorry, fren. I know you are dealing with a lot at the moment, but if you can keep your wits about you, the good decisions you make right now, while you're still in shock, will help. I agree you should consider getting an independent autopsy. Also, your sister's doctor ought to be able to request records. Finally, hospitals have an ombudsman. This is a person meant to champion patients and their concerns. If you have any issues at all, contact the ombudsman to help you. Again, so sorry. Wish you well.
So sorry for your loss. I don't know, maybe hire a lawyer, let them show you the details of her treatment?
What they did to her will probably be in the mind of the nurses and orderlies and doctors who actually worked on her.
My recommendation is to submit this info to an experienced wrongful death attorney. One who is based on the genocide jab and death profiteering in health systems is Thomas Renz:
Renz Law Contact Formt
Anyone who has a question as to if they have a case or not can run it by them. Hope that helps. Lost both parents to the jab and am in same quandary.
sorry for your loss, you will need to lawyer up. start with https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/legal/ and/or the https://www.lc.org/
Prayers for you and your family fren.....
(hug) I am sorry for your loss. I pray your family gets the answers it needs and for strength and wisdom.
Our hospitals use "mychart" I could log into my sister's account and see every doctor's note, test, meds.. So sorry.
I will ask her son about this when I get there. Thank you!
So sorry for your loss. Hope you get the answers you need.
Sorry for your loss, aka the $120,000 covid legal gain to the hospital. You will have constitutional justice soon fren.
Or get an attorney to pull them for you. When I lost my second born I showed up to retrieve his files. I told they were unavailable.
Sorry brotha.
Very sorry to hear this.. I lost my mom on the 4th after 2-weeks in the hospital. In my mom's situation I'm confident they did everything they could but I completely understand where you're coming from. I was up the hospitals ass non stop the entire time she was in there. Had she only been there 24 hours I'd be a raging lunatic still and wouldn't even begin to know how to cope. I'm praying for you and again, I'm horribly sorry for your loss.
So so sorry for your loss.
Honestly, getting the records could also help with closure. It sounds like this was completely unexpected. If the records can shed some light on how it came about, then if husband is willing, it seems a reasonable thing to do.
Hey man, my condolences. I don't know if this helps since I'm not a big prayer myself, but if there was nothing that could be done to save her celebrate her life with tears of joy, if you find enough evidence her life was taken turn those tears into a war for justice
Your parents can just request them. Or her husband. Maybe you can I'm not sure about that though
Sorry for your loss fren. Get records quick, they deleted my aunties online chart 3 hours after she died.
I’m sorry, my friend. Requiescat in pace.
I'm so very sorry
Sorry to hear that, but yet it's likely they murdered her. I lost two family members to the murdering prisons called hospitals, both were given Remdesivir and deteriorated.
I'm so sorry...
I am so sorry and sad for your loss and for her family. I have a sister in the hospital right now for kidney removal. Now running a fever...she is unvaxed. Sending prayers your way, my friend.