It's a very old political cartoon that still gets debated a lot, but I think it still works in this context. Control of the US was always key to their plan to create One Nation on the planet.
Interestingly if you look at the pledge of allegiance
It was actually meant as a pledge to be used by every country in the world.
It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.
In its original form it read:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
One nation. One world. One pledge.
Over time the part about the Flag of the United States and "Under God" were added later.
They changed the salute to being over the heart because the original way was too much like a Nazi salute.
Shortly thereafter, the pledge was begun with the right hand over the heart, and after reciting "to the Flag," the arm was extended toward the Flag, palm-down.
In World War II, the salute too much resembled the Nazi salute, so it was changed to keep the right hand over the heart throughout.
This is the man that wrote the pledge. He must be rolling over in his grave that "Under God" was added. He did NOT want God in the pledge.
In 1891, Bellamy was "forced from his Boston pulpit for preaching against the evils of capitalism",[3] and eventually stopped attending church altogether after moving to Florida, reportedly because of the racism he witnessed there.[7] Francis's career as a preacher ended because of his tendency to describe Jesus as a socialist. In the 21st century, Bellamy is considered an early American democratic socialist.
He was a communist. It's pretty obvious.
That pledge was written by a communist and you can see it in the "One Nation" part. However, it got repurposed over time to include nationalism and God (everything he did NOT want) so we made it ours in the end.
Morality can and does exist outside of a religious context. One does not need to be religious or follow religious preaching in order to still be moral.
There are many theories on moral philosophy. quite a few of which are of an atheistic nature ... But why would one to adhere to morality without an eternal benefit/punishment is an intresting question and yet it does exist.
Because it's not right to kill people? Because I don't feel good when I lie? Because I don't want to rape someone? I'm more terrified of people who only adhere to morality because they're promised heaven instead of hell. If people can't find reasons to be moral other than avoiding hell, then they're probably not very moral to begin with, and I'd most definitely want to avoid such people.
If people can't find reasons to be moral other than avoiding hell,
Oh look, I actually agree with you on a point.
I would say most humans generally know what feels right and wrong. It's empathy. However, it gets twisted in people. We have a segment of the population (larger than many realize) who do not appear capable of empathy.
Contrary to what most people believe, psychopaths and sociopaths are thought to exist in much greater numbers than the 1% that gets thrown around. Many also don't go on Hannibal Lecter murder sprees. They often can walk among us without even realizing what they are. They just always know there is something different about them.
Those types crave power and often enter positions of power. Even if they are fewer in number they have a much greater influence on human society than we realize. They also tend to be very cold and regard things like experimenting on children as fine.
Those people are like aliens living among us and will never be swayed by any morality. In fact, they detest such concepts and would rather those didn't exist in the government.
The kind of people who could do what Q posts suggest of the DS would not be NORMAL people that follow any morality. I'd say most have next to no empathy. Unfortunately they are also not people you can just avoid because they make sure that no one can avoid them. They claw deep into powerful positions and hang on like a barnacle.
A lot of them may not even know what they are. To them, humans are just strange creatures who care about weird things.
correct. there is no obligation to adhere to those moralities. often a persons morality is not tested. at extremes even religous types may give in to immorality.
Fishy if I actually take the time to debate you on this will you respond this time? You never respond when people take the time to debate you. You seem to like playing Devil Advocate's whenever you comment.
You always just drop into posts and cry "ThAt's nOt tRuE!" and then never show the guts to debate them.
Will you actually reply and debate here? I'm starting to wonder if you're a bot from how often you do it. It's getting weird.
Many people reply many things to the things I post here while playing devil's advocate at times, or trying to just get logical arguments out of people. I'd spend a lot of time on GAW just sorting through reply notifications and taking the time to continue conversations vs seeing other posts people put up. And yes iM_a ReAl Pers0n. If your feelings get hurt when people don't feel like it's worth debating your every comment, then maybe you're not made for the internet. I don't have unlimited supplies of time and energy.
If your feelings get hurt when people don't feel like it's worth debating your every comment, then maybe you're not made for the internet.
It's very funny that you regard it that way. That you assume people's feeling are hurt by your opinion. You immediately assume that your opinion is based on logic and that their opinion is not.
Yet I have seen you miss the point (entirely) and base your opinions only your personal speculations. (Which is fine, but have the guts to acknowledge it) When people call you out on your poorly-thought out opinions you take it as "they just can't handle the truth". You immediately dismiss people's arguments.
I don't have unlimited supplies of time and energy
But other people do? If you don't have the time to waste on an actual discussion then why do you bother wasting other people's time here? This is a discussion board.
trying to just get logical arguments out of people
That's a big assumption of you. If that was really your goal then you'd actually reply and not just "ignore" something because you consider it a "waste of your time". And what is with the assumption that your arguments are logical?
Also logic can be a very relative term. All humans follow what they consider to be logical. Jumping out the third floor of a burning building might be very logical to one person while to another risking the smoke-filled stairs is more logical. I'd suggest you not assume your "logic" trumps others. It might sound like nonsense to many others.
If you don't have the courage to make your case, then don't waste other's time. Have the guts to face a rebuttal. Plenty have been making very logical cases against many of your very illogical (in my opinion) assumptions. But I guess hearing them out is just a "waste of your time" as you say it.
Keeping church n state separate is to keep state out of the church. Not the other way around .
That's why settlers left England where state ran through the church.
That's not why he wanted God out of the pledge. This guy was a communist. There are many regular people who think like that, but communists also want religion out of government. Their reasoning is because they want to use government to destroy religion.
It might sound like a nice idea on paper, but it gets used against people with the wrong religion. This guy claimed he was a baptists, but ran around pushing a very obvious communist agenda under the name of christianity.
There is a lot of literature by communists talking about infiltrating religious institutions like the church just to spread communism. (Read "On A Pale Horse").
Do you agree with him that "Under God" should not be in the Pledge of Allegiance?
The "Under God" has been infuriating to the DS for a long time. I remember how crazy the media has pushed over the years to get it out.
Btw, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not exist in the Constitution. That is a myth that gets pushed by the media. They spread that lie over and over to try and convince people it's in the Constitution.
I'd floated this back on 8kun about the US being the keystone referenced in that drop. The US quite literally holds everything together; i.e. the keystone that holds it all up. The UN, NATO, and countless other entities simply would not exist if it were not for the US funding them. Take that funding away and it all crumbles.
This is why there is so much effort to undermine and subvert the will of We the People: they know damned well if we ever woke up to what they're doing, our laws are set up to hang them all. We're in this stage now.
If US citizens wake up in great enough numbers to throw them out of power, the NWO is finished. NATO, the UN none of it works without the US. This is why they worked so, SO hard to poison us, destroy us from within and force us to dole out foreign aid like candy. Their control is based on bleeding the US dry.
All their power depends on controlling us. If we wake up and destroy their chains, they will lose the ability to control the world. The US is the keystone that holds it all together.
I was actually starting to think Ukraine or something else may be the hidden keystone. It definitely is a pivotal point that George Soros and the bidens are heavily involved in and has lots of mystery surrounding it but it's a hard argument to make that it influences most countries unless we don't know about something. US makes sense
It certainly seems like RU and CN are coordinating with POTUS to make Ukraine into a Keystone of sorts.
I like OPs dig, but as it stands now I will at least go with "multiple meanings" on UA being a very definite "keystone". And as it goes towards exposing a One World Government, I think it's still very vital.
If "keystone" were a riddle to be solved, like the famous riddles where the answer is "Man" or "Mirror" or "Time", etc "United States / US" is a good answer.
There's the possibility Keystone is also a very specific piece of technology, or ritual, or belief system. Something like the Seven Dwarves, or CARNIVORE, or even a core belief in Ritualistic Blood Magick.
Q262 is one use of Keystone that I could see very directly being tied to UA. Map being literal in this one.
So maybe I'm a little dumb, but what's the difference between helping and coordinating? Is it the difference between being allies and being just on board for this war to mutually benefit the world? Asking for a fren
I think helping denotes actively working together in the moment like suggesting Putin and Trump are on the phone discussing Ukraine, which they aren't. Coordinating means there is a loose arrangement that was made previously for each country to do its part to take out the DS.
My thoughts as well. Realistically each head of country should be more concerned with the well being of their respective country than the well being of other countries. But the NWO is bad for ALL countries, so this would fall within the respective jurisdictions. Nationalism isn't a bad thing until it's been corrupted. Like many other things
Most likely this. Reverting the world back to strong nationalism versus a one world government puppet show. Multiple strong nations creates redundancy invade something like the NEO ever tries to happen again.
If RU and CN are helping, that implies that the US is doing all the heavy lifting and merely getting assists from those nations.
If they are coordinating, that in turn implies that the outcome is being held up by all three of them, almost equally. This scenario pleases me the more, as it suggests the US isn't the only superpower behind the Plan. But it also makes explaining the keystone more challenging.
I agree. I view the cooperation as a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". I think they all mutually agree that "if the NWO succeeds, we're all fucked". I think we're the keystone because without the US, the NWO won't succeed. They need us and the resources we have. And all the useful idiots that go along with the BS media and tattoo fauci in their asses for "muh soyince". That's just MHO, and I'm a crazy man lol
When we have knowledge and understanding of all that we are experiencing now with the agenda of the NWO, WEF, UN, NATO, Global Cabal/Ruling Class, Liberals/Progressives, Pyramid System, Political Puppets, Tyrannical Gov'ts, Satanic Cults/Human Trafficking, War for Profit, CDC, NAIH, Financial Banking/Beast System/Control, etc. we can see how this parallels with the Book of Revelation.
We now know they have had power and control over the vast majority of the world population as a coordinated group of a few elites as seen on the Illuminati Pyramid link below.
I found this YT Channel a few months ago and I'm on my second binge viewing of this series. It's Cornerstone Fellowship with Pastor Allen Nolan. He is very lively and animated in his knowledge and understanding. He goes into detail that I've never experienced before on the Book of Revelation. It's a lengthy series and goes into detail, so I now understand in modern times much better what is happening around the world, Trump, The Devolution Military Plan, Putin's Uk invasion, China/Taiwan, Iran and other countries' resistance. I can literally see the 40,000 ft view more clearly.
Just like Trump and America First, Putin puts his country and his citizens first and Xi Jinping puts his country and people first and so on. So what is the end game? Are they evil dictators or what?
Usually Saudi Arabia, but since there are many double meanings to maintain Plausible Deniability, it could mean South Asia (India, China, Myanmar Pakistan).
Thank you for bringing this to the forum again.
The cartoon is spot on.
It's a very old political cartoon that still gets debated a lot, but I think it still works in this context. Control of the US was always key to their plan to create One Nation on the planet.
Interestingly if you look at the pledge of allegiance
https://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm?vm=r
It was actually meant as a pledge to be used by every country in the world.
One nation. One world. One pledge.
Over time the part about the Flag of the United States and "Under God" were added later.
They changed the salute to being over the heart because the original way was too much like a Nazi salute.
This is the man that wrote the pledge. He must be rolling over in his grave that "Under God" was added. He did NOT want God in the pledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy
This was how you saluted the flag originally when doing the pledge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
He was a communist. It's pretty obvious.
That pledge was written by a communist and you can see it in the "One Nation" part. However, it got repurposed over time to include nationalism and God (everything he did NOT want) so we made it ours in the end.
Didn't know the history of the Pledge fren.
Thank you for the education - quite eye opening.
Yes, thank you for putting it here. Never to old to learn something!
Ah,
so he wanted to separate church and state;
so he could separate morality from politics?
So [they] wouldn't have to do the right thing, but whatever they wanted?
Morality can and does exist outside of a religious context. One does not need to be religious or follow religious preaching in order to still be moral.
From whence does this secular objective morality spring?
no where. dudes smokin something funny
There are many theories on moral philosophy. quite a few of which are of an atheistic nature ... But why would one to adhere to morality without an eternal benefit/punishment is an intresting question and yet it does exist.
Because it's not right to kill people? Because I don't feel good when I lie? Because I don't want to rape someone? I'm more terrified of people who only adhere to morality because they're promised heaven instead of hell. If people can't find reasons to be moral other than avoiding hell, then they're probably not very moral to begin with, and I'd most definitely want to avoid such people.
Oh look, I actually agree with you on a point.
I would say most humans generally know what feels right and wrong. It's empathy. However, it gets twisted in people. We have a segment of the population (larger than many realize) who do not appear capable of empathy.
Contrary to what most people believe, psychopaths and sociopaths are thought to exist in much greater numbers than the 1% that gets thrown around. Many also don't go on Hannibal Lecter murder sprees. They often can walk among us without even realizing what they are. They just always know there is something different about them.
Those types crave power and often enter positions of power. Even if they are fewer in number they have a much greater influence on human society than we realize. They also tend to be very cold and regard things like experimenting on children as fine.
Those people are like aliens living among us and will never be swayed by any morality. In fact, they detest such concepts and would rather those didn't exist in the government.
The kind of people who could do what Q posts suggest of the DS would not be NORMAL people that follow any morality. I'd say most have next to no empathy. Unfortunately they are also not people you can just avoid because they make sure that no one can avoid them. They claw deep into powerful positions and hang on like a barnacle.
A lot of them may not even know what they are. To them, humans are just strange creatures who care about weird things.
That's the real problem.
None of those theories have effectively been put into practice, and your last question is telling.
correct. there is no obligation to adhere to those moralities. often a persons morality is not tested. at extremes even religous types may give in to immorality.
ya i kno that.
im talking about this Commie Faggot’s goal.
edit:
it can even be taken further, remove God from politics, and the politicians become our god.
“Do this; don’t do that.”
“Say this; don’t say that.”
“Think this, don’t think that.”
The Party from 1984; The Party decides what’s best for us.
Fishy if I actually take the time to debate you on this will you respond this time? You never respond when people take the time to debate you. You seem to like playing Devil Advocate's whenever you comment.
You always just drop into posts and cry "ThAt's nOt tRuE!" and then never show the guts to debate them.
Will you actually reply and debate here? I'm starting to wonder if you're a bot from how often you do it. It's getting weird.
Many people reply many things to the things I post here while playing devil's advocate at times, or trying to just get logical arguments out of people. I'd spend a lot of time on GAW just sorting through reply notifications and taking the time to continue conversations vs seeing other posts people put up. And yes iM_a ReAl Pers0n. If your feelings get hurt when people don't feel like it's worth debating your every comment, then maybe you're not made for the internet. I don't have unlimited supplies of time and energy.
It's very funny that you regard it that way. That you assume people's feeling are hurt by your opinion. You immediately assume that your opinion is based on logic and that their opinion is not.
Yet I have seen you miss the point (entirely) and base your opinions only your personal speculations. (Which is fine, but have the guts to acknowledge it) When people call you out on your poorly-thought out opinions you take it as "they just can't handle the truth". You immediately dismiss people's arguments.
But other people do? If you don't have the time to waste on an actual discussion then why do you bother wasting other people's time here? This is a discussion board.
That's a big assumption of you. If that was really your goal then you'd actually reply and not just "ignore" something because you consider it a "waste of your time". And what is with the assumption that your arguments are logical?
Also logic can be a very relative term. All humans follow what they consider to be logical. Jumping out the third floor of a burning building might be very logical to one person while to another risking the smoke-filled stairs is more logical. I'd suggest you not assume your "logic" trumps others. It might sound like nonsense to many others.
If you don't have the courage to make your case, then don't waste other's time. Have the guts to face a rebuttal. Plenty have been making very logical cases against many of your very illogical (in my opinion) assumptions. But I guess hearing them out is just a "waste of your time" as you say it.
This is a discussion. Have some courage.
You'll be happy to know you've inspired me to reply more and back up my arguments more. I'll be commenting around here much more in the future.
Keeping church n state separate is to keep state out of the church. Not the other way around . That's why settlers left England where state ran through the church.
Oh, thanks man.
That's not why he wanted God out of the pledge. This guy was a communist. There are many regular people who think like that, but communists also want religion out of government. Their reasoning is because they want to use government to destroy religion.
It might sound like a nice idea on paper, but it gets used against people with the wrong religion. This guy claimed he was a baptists, but ran around pushing a very obvious communist agenda under the name of christianity.
There is a lot of literature by communists talking about infiltrating religious institutions like the church just to spread communism. (Read "On A Pale Horse").
Do you agree with him that "Under God" should not be in the Pledge of Allegiance?
The "Under God" has been infuriating to the DS for a long time. I remember how crazy the media has pushed over the years to get it out.
Btw, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not exist in the Constitution. That is a myth that gets pushed by the media. They spread that lie over and over to try and convince people it's in the Constitution.
https://aclj.org/does-the-separation-of-church-and-state-really-exist
When they said "we don't want religion" in government they really mean they don't want "Christianity" in government.
That's fascinating. The more ya know
I definitely learned something new today! TY!
I'd floated this back on 8kun about the US being the keystone referenced in that drop. The US quite literally holds everything together; i.e. the keystone that holds it all up. The UN, NATO, and countless other entities simply would not exist if it were not for the US funding them. Take that funding away and it all crumbles.
This is why there is so much effort to undermine and subvert the will of We the People: they know damned well if we ever woke up to what they're doing, our laws are set up to hang them all. We're in this stage now.
If US citizens wake up in great enough numbers to throw them out of power, the NWO is finished. NATO, the UN none of it works without the US. This is why they worked so, SO hard to poison us, destroy us from within and force us to dole out foreign aid like candy. Their control is based on bleeding the US dry.
All their power depends on controlling us. If we wake up and destroy their chains, they will lose the ability to control the world. The US is the keystone that holds it all together.
Not China. Not Russia.
US.
Yep, 100%.
Forgot to say good job getting this back out there again. Great graphic and commentaries giving a shotgun explanation😎👍
Very well put friend… keep sharing 👏
Think circle --> arc --> arch
I think you've solved the keystone mystery, SS. This makes the most sense in the overall grand scheme of things.
You're on fire, fren! Great work!
I was actually starting to think Ukraine or something else may be the hidden keystone. It definitely is a pivotal point that George Soros and the bidens are heavily involved in and has lots of mystery surrounding it but it's a hard argument to make that it influences most countries unless we don't know about something. US makes sense
It certainly seems like RU and CN are coordinating with POTUS to make Ukraine into a Keystone of sorts.
I like OPs dig, but as it stands now I will at least go with "multiple meanings" on UA being a very definite "keystone". And as it goes towards exposing a One World Government, I think it's still very vital.
If "keystone" were a riddle to be solved, like the famous riddles where the answer is "Man" or "Mirror" or "Time", etc "United States / US" is a good answer.
There's the possibility Keystone is also a very specific piece of technology, or ritual, or belief system. Something like the Seven Dwarves, or CARNIVORE, or even a core belief in Ritualistic Blood Magick.
Q262 is one use of Keystone that I could see very directly being tied to UA. Map being literal in this one.
For everyone's reference:
https://qagg.news/?q=Keystone+
Reads title....sees Semper Supra...."I'm in!!!!"
Excellent insight thanks for sharing.
Q269
Key - unlocks the door of all doors (info)
Stone - the force / strength capable of yielding power to act on info
Key+Stone=
Q
.
Two drops later...Q quotes an anon without adding anything:
Q271
Military Intelligence, No Such Agency = key
POTUS and Patriots = stone
.
Thus
Key + Stone = (mil intel/NSA providing info) + (Trump/Patriots acting on said info)
So maybe I'm a little dumb, but what's the difference between helping and coordinating? Is it the difference between being allies and being just on board for this war to mutually benefit the world? Asking for a fren
I think helping denotes actively working together in the moment like suggesting Putin and Trump are on the phone discussing Ukraine, which they aren't. Coordinating means there is a loose arrangement that was made previously for each country to do its part to take out the DS.
My thoughts as well. Realistically each head of country should be more concerned with the well being of their respective country than the well being of other countries. But the NWO is bad for ALL countries, so this would fall within the respective jurisdictions. Nationalism isn't a bad thing until it's been corrupted. Like many other things
Helping implies working together to achieve the same desired result.
Coordinating implies working together for each to achieve their own desired results.
Just my guess...
I think helping is to assist.
Coordinating means the participants are all equals in their objective.
That's how I view it. So there's an inherent hierarchy in helping but no inherent hierarchy in coordination.
Very good explanation.
If I say "I'm coordinating with Lonewulf to decode comms" what does it imply verse "Lonewulf is helping me decode comms"?
Most likely this. Reverting the world back to strong nationalism versus a one world government puppet show. Multiple strong nations creates redundancy invade something like the NEO ever tries to happen again.
That's my guess as well
I look at it from the point of view of hierarchy.
If RU and CN are helping, that implies that the US is doing all the heavy lifting and merely getting assists from those nations.
If they are coordinating, that in turn implies that the outcome is being held up by all three of them, almost equally. This scenario pleases me the more, as it suggests the US isn't the only superpower behind the Plan. But it also makes explaining the keystone more challenging.
I agree. I view the cooperation as a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". I think they all mutually agree that "if the NWO succeeds, we're all fucked". I think we're the keystone because without the US, the NWO won't succeed. They need us and the resources we have. And all the useful idiots that go along with the BS media and tattoo fauci in their asses for "muh soyince". That's just MHO, and I'm a crazy man lol
These are Q Posts that read 'Biblical'. https://qalerts.app/?q=biblical
When we have knowledge and understanding of all that we are experiencing now with the agenda of the NWO, WEF, UN, NATO, Global Cabal/Ruling Class, Liberals/Progressives, Pyramid System, Political Puppets, Tyrannical Gov'ts, Satanic Cults/Human Trafficking, War for Profit, CDC, NAIH, Financial Banking/Beast System/Control, etc. we can see how this parallels with the Book of Revelation.
We now know they have had power and control over the vast majority of the world population as a coordinated group of a few elites as seen on the Illuminati Pyramid link below.
https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/37112770_2194074787489635_3236692400852172800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=dN4OH3xY7lEAX-4svNP&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9HUEiJ1lIEnHjEC-0fV6ddjOu9PmiNtIXCMCIKb_iwjQ&oe=6265B791
I found this YT Channel a few months ago and I'm on my second binge viewing of this series. It's Cornerstone Fellowship with Pastor Allen Nolan. He is very lively and animated in his knowledge and understanding. He goes into detail that I've never experienced before on the Book of Revelation. It's a lengthy series and goes into detail, so I now understand in modern times much better what is happening around the world, Trump, The Devolution Military Plan, Putin's Uk invasion, China/Taiwan, Iran and other countries' resistance. I can literally see the 40,000 ft view more clearly.
The Book of Revelation Series; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtsYRPusqA&list=PLaPig5gEoOs1fiitSLd58UaWvdEZYT0XM
Gold is the keystone. Time is the map.
Just like Trump and America First, Putin puts his country and his citizens first and Xi Jinping puts his country and people first and so on. So what is the end game? Are they evil dictators or what?
Usually Saudi Arabia, but since there are many double meanings to maintain Plausible Deniability, it could mean South Asia (India, China, Myanmar Pakistan).