I’m in SoCal with a 96% solar index. I also have solar with battery backup and while that shit will run my refrigerator, freezer, TV and internet I’m pretty dang sure that shit won’t run the AC if they ever cut us off. Might as well be in Ohio.
Refrigerator will let you conserve food. Don't complaint. Stay hydrated and pace yourself if you have to deal with heat for extended periods of time. Try to do outdoor activities while keeping this in mind. If you can do it for 15 days, your body will get used to it.
People live in hotter climates and don't drop dead.
Anyone else receiving emails from their electric company saying they might need to do rolling blackouts this summer? I’ve been a customer for 20 years and never received this warning before.
Yupp. My state shutdown a nuclear power plant and didn't bother to replace it with any oner energy producing solutions other than some solar panels which legit do nothing.
Well, I live in TX and I signed a 3 yr contract January 2022 ‘fixed and bundled’ meaning the KWhr rate and Oncor charges are included at $0.12/KWhr and can’t change. I suppose they could still shut me down though - so there’s that. At least when running they shouldn’t be able to raise my rates for another 30 months.
Seriously? The presidents policies dictate that and don't even try to gas light with California had rolling blackouts under Trump horse shit . California is it's own leftist shit hole with decades of problems. So don't even try to equate Ohio to California.
You must have misunderstood my comment, it was directed to the libs/commies and their wanting to put us all in electric vehicles. The power grid can't handle the customers it has now (at least in commie CA) so I can't wait until the electric vehicles put a strain on the system. Not that I think anyone but a commie will be able to afford the cost of the vehicle--like Butthedge says buy an electric vehicle if the cost of gas is too high!!
Keep good records so you can be refunded for costs incurred during shut downs. If everyone did this I'd bet they would remedy it fast.
Dont forget situations like cant call for ambulance because phone cant be charged; food that spoiled in fridge and freezer; pets died due to heat; medical bills from heat stroke.....
I know a woman who died during heat emergency in Chicago years ago. Only way she was found was the odor that came from the house days later.
To be fair, this was in response to the widespread heavy wind damage and tornados that ripped across the state on Monday night. Some of which toppled the steel highline supports and wires along with distribution systems.
Even California does this and it makes sense i think when they do, if it's a massive windstorm that can easily cause a fire i think shutting it off for a bit is the right call
Trump controls storms now? Hurricane Maria and Ohio people who are surviving and picking up their lives says otherwise. And, your comment makes zero sense, handshake account.
"AEP says the decision to shut off power in some neighborhoods was done to keep outages from spreading and making it even harder and longer to restore power." ????
Load increased and frequency dipped. If system frequency dips too much the generator trips, then another and another. Lengthy restoration times follow bc firing up a plant isn’t like starting a car. That’s if the stators or other equipment wasn’t damaged during the shutdown. Then you have to rebuild it via small islands or networks at a time. So the remedy to prevent this is shedding firm load aka drop customers. We need more nuke plants
No worries fren this place teaches me so much. That’s a good question and tough one to answer. Essentially the more connections (generators and transmission capacity) there are, the more stable a grid is. You could (and we sometimes do) isolate sections to prevent cascading failures but there’s a lot of variables at play, such as power flow and system frequency, that could affect something downstream. It really comes down to not having enough generators and not enough infrastructure to transmit power.
We spend billions on upgrades annually on our state’s grid and that’s just to barely keep up. The so called green energy stuff is handcuffing grids all over the nation. Between muh green energy and muh supply chain, things are going to get interesting.
Storms took out lines, this is critical infrastructure during heavily loaded times of extreme cold and heat. You lose transmission lines, you lose capacity and create cascading grid congestion. What I explained is why power is preemptively shut off and why restoration could take longer if this step isn’t taken when needed.
Its going to be everywhere this summer. California (Edison) is telling us to conserve energy between 4pm-9pm, basically the only time most people need electricity. They are also charging extra for usage during those hours. What a scam.
Lets see how many people they manage to murder with the heat.
I'm ashamed of American politicians and the cops. They can't spell RICO, much less figure out how to enforce it and prosecute the criminals.
Yes!! That was right after I had my son on the 4th lol that was not fun.
SO FAR no black outs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re implemented after this long heat wave.
AEP says the decision to shut off power in some neighborhoods was done to keep outages from spreading and making it even harder and longer to restore power.
The vaccine is to help protect you from disease, not give you a deadly disease.
The four dozen (so far) biolabs in Ukraine are for studying ways to COMBAT bioweapons, not to create them.
The purpose of breeding disease-carrying mosquitos is to fight against outbreaks from other disease-carrying mosquitos, not to kill massive numbers of humans
The decision to shut off power in some neighborhoods was done to keep outages from spreading and making it even harder and longer to restore power
The areas where they cut power the longest also happened to be areas with the oldest infrastructure in most cases. Consequently, a lot of those areas also happened to be lower income. However, one of the neighborhoods that was out the longest, Clintonville (some still without power), also happens to be one of the more affluential neighborhoods in Columbus. There were other examples like New Albany and Upper Arlington, both wealthy neighborhoods. So I honestly don’t think this narrative holds much weight.
And actually, a couple days ago people started posting flyers for staging a protest claiming this was clearly a target on marginalized communities. I’m generally getting a little annoyed that every time someone finds themself at an inconvenience, we gotta stage a protest to “stick it to the man”. This was a little more than an inconvenience (some were out of power for 4 days and counting in 100+ heat) but literally no thought went into the actual accuracy of the conclusion.
The entire downtown and surrounding areas were hit.
Downtown has loads of state government and white collar workers. Surroundings are largely nice neighborhoods; some farther out are lower middle class, but the place is pretty stable overall.
The state fairgrounds, just a few miles north of downtown, has a huge facility for horse shows and there was one going on this week. They ended up having to cancel classes because they had hundreds of very expensive horses inside a hot barn with no fans to keep the air circulating (which is what they normally do.)
Not sure if OH State Univ was affected but it's not far north of downtown, too.
They keep sending me a opt-in “smart energy” to let them use wind and solar for my electric needs, and they will send me a free $100 credit card type gift card.
Why the need to bribe me? Feels too much like free doughnuts for jabs...
After what happened in Texas, I cant see anything but using coal plants and we are way closer to the North pole than they are.
To clear up any confusion. Yes it was on purpose. No probably not for nefarious reasons. I watch this subject particularly closely. It’s SOP. Temperature is always the main driver. “Green” energy is screwing us.
Dum Dums in The White House Has cut off the pipelines. And say they are getting rid of fossil fuel. You will be made to buy new electric cars. But yet our Power Grids across America cannot hold up under some heat.
They shut power off on purpose in the greater Columbus area on the two hottest days of the year.
This could actually kill people who need refrigerated medicines or the heat sensitive like newborn babies and elderly. I want to spend my money on AC! Take my money!
Rationing utilities is what they do in third world dictatorships. No reason to do this other than to “normalize” the rationing of everything so people acclimate to that standard of living.
This is one place that a solar generator would be valuable. We just bought a 2000 watt solar generator and a couple of flexible solar panels. Intended for use on our boat, but great backup for the 'ole homestead as well.
Feel bad for Ohioans affected cause heat is bad. At least this did not happen during freezing temps.
Think too though about people affected by hurricanes or other weather events who have no generators. The worst have hit Louisiana in August/early Sept. when the temps are close to or above 100 degrees with 100% humidity. I have friends from high school who had to stretch blue tarps over cattle fencing posts for their families to sleep under at night - no fema trailers for 2-3 months. A town did not get electricity until 5 months after the storm and other areas took a month or two.
When you see mass population control, the seizure and control of resources, ask yourself the Big Question: What is this for?
I'm prepared to die for my family's right of access to the energy we buy with our hard-earned money. Are the people who withhold my family's allotment of energy able to say the same? If so, things are going to get very messy this summer.
Go green they said...
It will be fine they said...
u/#peewee
It doesn't get any greener than turning it off completely!
Green...as in dark, moldy and nasty...
I’m in SoCal with a 96% solar index. I also have solar with battery backup and while that shit will run my refrigerator, freezer, TV and internet I’m pretty dang sure that shit won’t run the AC if they ever cut us off. Might as well be in Ohio.
Refrigerator will let you conserve food. Don't complaint. Stay hydrated and pace yourself if you have to deal with heat for extended periods of time. Try to do outdoor activities while keeping this in mind. If you can do it for 15 days, your body will get used to it.
People live in hotter climates and don't drop dead.
Anyone else receiving emails from their electric company saying they might need to do rolling blackouts this summer? I’ve been a customer for 20 years and never received this warning before.
It’s a new form of oppression.
Oh So GREEN. How many customers will rush out to buy small generators that run on gasoline to power their homes during the blackouts?
I just bought a propane burning generator for this summer. Too much meat in my freezer to leave it in the hands of these criminals.
Nice. If you have natural gas piped into your residence, you can get a conversion kit so the generator will run on propane or natural gas.
damn, that's genius.
That is assuming that the gas pumps also have electricity to run. I got a backup generator that also uses propane to counter this.
Yup. Emails warning of sudden and repeatedly blackouts. Never before have I witnessed such a thing
Yupp. My state shutdown a nuclear power plant and didn't bother to replace it with any oner energy producing solutions other than some solar panels which legit do nothing.
No, but I did get a notice that they were raising the rate by 40%.
Well, I live in TX and I signed a 3 yr contract January 2022 ‘fixed and bundled’ meaning the KWhr rate and Oncor charges are included at $0.12/KWhr and can’t change. I suppose they could still shut me down though - so there’s that. At least when running they shouldn’t be able to raise my rates for another 30 months.
Even with my 40% increase, I still have a better rate than you, fren. Yowsa! 😲
What state are you in?
Weird..Never happened under Trump..
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
~cough, cough~
Probably...
Can I get a mean tweet?
Seriously? The presidents policies dictate that and don't even try to gas light with California had rolling blackouts under Trump horse shit . California is it's own leftist shit hole with decades of problems. So don't even try to equate Ohio to California.
We had storms for years thus never happened.
California had laserbeam attacks under Trump too
Keep adding those electric vehicle charging stations to the system, and see how well the grid keeps up then.
Don't entertain any excuse that this is somehow due to anything customer related. Even if that means sparing cheap shots at "libs".
I mean, but its a part of it.
They are telling everyone to switch to EVs because theyll skip the gas prices..
While the electric grid in cali is strained because of all the EVs, so guess you cant charge them afterall.
Its just another form of their control
If free energy was discovered, do you think Clowns would reveal it? Comms reveal scarcity as manufactured for profit and control.
I think they do already have it....i mean what's more sinister?
Knowing about free energy, but choosing to run electricity off coal, natural gas, water, wind, or even "nuclear".
Or
Harnessing free energy and putting up power lines and charging the end consumer i.e. us for something that is free flowing from the earth.
You must have misunderstood my comment, it was directed to the libs/commies and their wanting to put us all in electric vehicles. The power grid can't handle the customers it has now (at least in commie CA) so I can't wait until the electric vehicles put a strain on the system. Not that I think anyone but a commie will be able to afford the cost of the vehicle--like Butthedge says buy an electric vehicle if the cost of gas is too high!!
Keep good records so you can be refunded for costs incurred during shut downs. If everyone did this I'd bet they would remedy it fast.
Dont forget situations like cant call for ambulance because phone cant be charged; food that spoiled in fridge and freezer; pets died due to heat; medical bills from heat stroke.....
I know a woman who died during heat emergency in Chicago years ago. Only way she was found was the odor that came from the house days later.
Dead bodies smell horrible. Did a one day dead body recovery and can still smell it in my head.
That was the beauty of having landlines, the phones still had power even if there was an electrical outage.
To be fair, this was in response to the widespread heavy wind damage and tornados that ripped across the state on Monday night. Some of which toppled the steel highline supports and wires along with distribution systems.
Even California does this and it makes sense i think when they do, if it's a massive windstorm that can easily cause a fire i think shutting it off for a bit is the right call
So in Trump's four years we were without storms?
Your comment makes no sense.
Trump controls storms now? Hurricane Maria and Ohio people who are surviving and picking up their lives says otherwise. And, your comment makes zero sense, handshake account.
And your comment, keeps repeating...
"AEP says the decision to shut off power in some neighborhoods was done to keep outages from spreading and making it even harder and longer to restore power." ????
Load increased and frequency dipped. If system frequency dips too much the generator trips, then another and another. Lengthy restoration times follow bc firing up a plant isn’t like starting a car. That’s if the stators or other equipment wasn’t damaged during the shutdown. Then you have to rebuild it via small islands or networks at a time. So the remedy to prevent this is shedding firm load aka drop customers. We need more nuke plants
Thanks for the explanation. Excuse my ignorance but can't connections be built that won't trip the next one?
No worries fren this place teaches me so much. That’s a good question and tough one to answer. Essentially the more connections (generators and transmission capacity) there are, the more stable a grid is. You could (and we sometimes do) isolate sections to prevent cascading failures but there’s a lot of variables at play, such as power flow and system frequency, that could affect something downstream. It really comes down to not having enough generators and not enough infrastructure to transmit power.
We spend billions on upgrades annually on our state’s grid and that’s just to barely keep up. The so called green energy stuff is handcuffing grids all over the nation. Between muh green energy and muh supply chain, things are going to get interesting.
Thanks.
So in Trump's four years we were without storms?
Your comment makes no sense
Storms took out lines, this is critical infrastructure during heavily loaded times of extreme cold and heat. You lose transmission lines, you lose capacity and create cascading grid congestion. What I explained is why power is preemptively shut off and why restoration could take longer if this step isn’t taken when needed.
Nothing to do with lines taken out. I know people who live there.
Cold fussion
Yeah, seems sus to me, too.
Its going to be everywhere this summer. California (Edison) is telling us to conserve energy between 4pm-9pm, basically the only time most people need electricity. They are also charging extra for usage during those hours. What a scam.
Lets see how many people they manage to murder with the heat. I'm ashamed of American politicians and the cops. They can't spell RICO, much less figure out how to enforce it and prosecute the criminals.
Especially the vaxxed that seem super susceptible to heat and over exertion...
Amen.
Doing it in Missouri as well. They've never done it here before that I can remember.
Where at in MO? We have Evergy in KC and haven’t heard anything (yet)
Ugh...that's what I get for believing my work. They said the rolling black outs hit one of their facilities, and the a/c compressor fried. 🙄
Looks like it's just the voluntary thermostat thing for now. https://newsroom.evergy.com/2022-06-14-Heat-wave-raises-questions-about-power-reliability
I do remember them doing it during the winter when we had that polar vortex. https://newsroom.evergy.com/2021-02-18-Evergy-Resumes-Normal-Operations-After-Severe-Weather-Event
Yes!! That was right after I had my son on the 4th lol that was not fun. SO FAR no black outs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re implemented after this long heat wave.
That had to be hard with a newborn. We got lucky and didn't get hit with them. My son was only 1, and I was working from home.
I have a feeling they will. They'll claim not enough people are in the voluntary thermostat program probably.
The vaccine is to help protect you from disease, not give you a deadly disease.
The four dozen (so far) biolabs in Ukraine are for studying ways to COMBAT bioweapons, not to create them.
The purpose of breeding disease-carrying mosquitos is to fight against outbreaks from other disease-carrying mosquitos, not to kill massive numbers of humans
The decision to shut off power in some neighborhoods was done to keep outages from spreading and making it even harder and longer to restore power
Starting to see a pattern?
Damn right.
Anyone know Columbus? What are the demographics of the areas in which they were cutting power?
Could be illuminating.
I live in Columbus.
The areas where they cut power the longest also happened to be areas with the oldest infrastructure in most cases. Consequently, a lot of those areas also happened to be lower income. However, one of the neighborhoods that was out the longest, Clintonville (some still without power), also happens to be one of the more affluential neighborhoods in Columbus. There were other examples like New Albany and Upper Arlington, both wealthy neighborhoods. So I honestly don’t think this narrative holds much weight.
And actually, a couple days ago people started posting flyers for staging a protest claiming this was clearly a target on marginalized communities. I’m generally getting a little annoyed that every time someone finds themself at an inconvenience, we gotta stage a protest to “stick it to the man”. This was a little more than an inconvenience (some were out of power for 4 days and counting in 100+ heat) but literally no thought went into the actual accuracy of the conclusion.
The entire downtown and surrounding areas were hit.
Downtown has loads of state government and white collar workers. Surroundings are largely nice neighborhoods; some farther out are lower middle class, but the place is pretty stable overall.
The state fairgrounds, just a few miles north of downtown, has a huge facility for horse shows and there was one going on this week. They ended up having to cancel classes because they had hundreds of very expensive horses inside a hot barn with no fans to keep the air circulating (which is what they normally do.)
Not sure if OH State Univ was affected but it's not far north of downtown, too.
Democrat run city, had riots with little police interference a few years ago.
Lot of African Americans. I know people there. They nearly shut off all of Columbus.
I know people there no sections were turned off. Try again. It was 55K people.
Yea bet this happened many times after storms huh? I have family there. They say different.
Yeah justify and normalize it. Ne er happened before.
They keep sending me a opt-in “smart energy” to let them use wind and solar for my electric needs, and they will send me a free $100 credit card type gift card.
Why the need to bribe me? Feels too much like free doughnuts for jabs...
After what happened in Texas, I cant see anything but using coal plants and we are way closer to the North pole than they are.
They turn off our power, tell us to use less, charge us MORE, then blame “climate change”
This will be a wake up call to a lot of Green Dems who think we should all be driving Chevy Volts and Teslas.
No it won't. They know exactly what they're doing.
It should definitely wake up people.
I want my country back.
Chevy Volt is the best of both worlds. Drive around town on electric power. Burn gas for long trips.
Chevy Volt is the best of both worlds. Drive around town on electric power. Burn gas for long trips.
This is to spur food shortages. Dry goods and mres.
Ration bars and pemmican too.
No there’s no agenda
... and not one mention of the [ First Energy corruption scandal involving kickbacks involving the Perry Nuclear Plant ]
They want everyone to get an electric car but wont keep the power up... Great Plan...
And here's why it's a good thing - MSM probably
The family of anyone that died because of that should sue the power company for everything they have.
Class action lawsuits are a bitch. Someone told me that.
To clear up any confusion. Yes it was on purpose. No probably not for nefarious reasons. I watch this subject particularly closely. It’s SOP. Temperature is always the main driver. “Green” energy is screwing us.
wtf i would expect this from california or new york
No kidding huh. Yet people on here are trying to normalize it.
Dum Dums in The White House Has cut off the pipelines. And say they are getting rid of fossil fuel. You will be made to buy new electric cars. But yet our Power Grids across America cannot hold up under some heat. They shut power off on purpose in the greater Columbus area on the two hottest days of the year.
Exactly but people pn here are trying to justify it.
This could actually kill people who need refrigerated medicines or the heat sensitive like newborn babies and elderly. I want to spend my money on AC! Take my money!
Rationing utilities is what they do in third world dictatorships. No reason to do this other than to “normalize” the rationing of everything so people acclimate to that standard of living.
This is one place that a solar generator would be valuable. We just bought a 2000 watt solar generator and a couple of flexible solar panels. Intended for use on our boat, but great backup for the 'ole homestead as well.
Feel bad for Ohioans affected cause heat is bad. At least this did not happen during freezing temps.
Think too though about people affected by hurricanes or other weather events who have no generators. The worst have hit Louisiana in August/early Sept. when the temps are close to or above 100 degrees with 100% humidity. I have friends from high school who had to stretch blue tarps over cattle fencing posts for their families to sleep under at night - no fema trailers for 2-3 months. A town did not get electricity until 5 months after the storm and other areas took a month or two.
What do people who work remotely do? Take forced PTO?
“Makes their jobs challenging”
When you see mass population control, the seizure and control of resources, ask yourself the Big Question: What is this for?
I'm prepared to die for my family's right of access to the energy we buy with our hard-earned money. Are the people who withhold my family's allotment of energy able to say the same? If so, things are going to get very messy this summer.
This happened the two days it was 90 degrees.
It was 98 on Tuesday, 98 on Wednesday and 96 Yesterday. It's humid AF.