The Holocaust: Historical Truth Goes By Evidence Not Emotion
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Dozens of teams of scientists have performed chemical analysis on soil, wall and structure samples of the gas chamber showers at Auschwitz and Dachau prison camps and found no residual chemical evidence of any deadly chemicals.
It's been forensic proven, dozens of times, that those showers were normal hot water showers and never used to gas anyone.
These tests were repeated because none of the teams could believe their findings, yet they all proved the same thing: the gas chamber showers of Auschwitz and Dachau were nothing more than fictional wartime propaganda.
This has been known since the 1950s.
The latch door to the crem in Auschwitz could be opened from the inside! It was close to the infirmary / officer's quarters, and the "chimney" only reached to the first floor.
Then how the Soviets came in after fabricated the chimney, the ceiling hole to make it look like it was how they did it.
The Germans meticulous record keeping and not enough supplies where brought in to cremate the bodies.
The number of Jews that were gassed are continually going down, revising due to evidence against it happening.
The amount of incinerators and how many bodies to burn per hour is unrealistic at best.
Jewish prisoners testimony that were in the camp saying they had never saw the gas chambers or heard of the gassing.
Zionists supporting Jews saying all the myriad ways they disposed of the bodies, like digging a ditch and using bodies to set alight other bodies.
The list goes on more than I can remember, but it's the worse thing they can say about Hitler bit if it never happened was he really that bad?
Bear in mind that there were huge payouts to Jewish victims. This is the motherload of misery fiction, movies etc. People forget Schindler's list was a work of FICTION - many visit the "factory" where it was filmed as though it was based on fact. The genius scene in the film was that of the survivors placing stones at Schindler's memorial, made it all so real.
I seem to remember the incinerators being on a higher floor too - imagine hauling so many bodies up and the time it would have taken to incinerate them in those tiny ovens, which were used to burn lice infested hair and clothes. Modern crematoriums take a long while to burn a body at very high temps - how long would those have taken?
Exactly, some of the camps the incinerators were on a different floor and would of took a lot longer, though time is the enemy for the Holocaust believers so they have to ignore a lot of things to make it all fit.
Like they get around the time it takes to burn a body (2hrs) by saying that they put 3 bodies in at a time, but that makes no sense as it will take over 3 times as long. Also 3 bodies wouldn't fit through the door.
They have no reasonable answers to any of the disputes raised but all they can say is it happened and it's racist to disagree and only we can be right.
How much fuel would it take to run these incinerators at such high temps? And multiple sites?
Would a nation at war be expending tremendous amounts of fuel on such a frivolous project? If so, why bother with the Madagascar Plan?
Why did Eisenhower force so many German civilians to tour and disassemble the camps/bury leftover bodies? Was General Eisenhower some kind of secret agent for the Jews?
All part of the propaganda guilt trip. Why did he allow thousands of German prisoners of war starve to death in camps instead of letting them go home?
I guess you aren't familiar with the problem of Russia getting a seat at the table when Germany was split into zones. LOts of German women were raped as well, but not in territories that weren't controlled by Russia.
No, because he was a tool of the deep state. How many flag officers do we have now that do the same?
Further, the only area at Auschwitz that shows actual cyanide traces is the clothes delousing chamber- which shows massive cyanide residue- the walls being stained blue from Iron hexacyanoferrate (Prussian Blue) which is formed when Zyklon B chemically interacts with the iron in red brick.
I strongly believe there where never any homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz. For more on this, look into Historian David Irving- he blew my mind when I started watching his talks.
One of the major points he makes, is that there is/was ( not sure how many folks from that era are still with us) a major business in the "Holocaust" , with Germany paying out billions in reparations to the nation of Israel, and to survivors. This means that there is a vested, financial interest in keeping the narrative going.
Further, a truly interesting fact is that no archeological excavation is allowed at or near any of the camps, and denial of the official narrative is a crime in most european countries.
I personally believe there are two reasons for this- one to continue the established narrative. Two, to prevent an even darker truth from being discovered- that the Nazii nuclear program was very advanced ( the Zinsser Affadavit among other evidence.points to this) and some camps used prisoners as disposable labor in nuclear enrichment ( the camps part is conjecture).
Side note- we do know the germans invented and manufacturedTabun and Sarin nerve gasses during the war as well.
When the history of WW2 is fully known, I believe the world will be shaken. I believe the real history is very different from what we have been told.
Edit- Disclaimer: I am neither anti semitic or pro Nazi. I am pro truth, and against the killing of innocents and non-combatants of any origin.
Even more fun fact about Zyklon B and the color blue: if you were asphyxiated/poisoned to death that way (an incredibly inefficient chemical for such an efficient people to chose for said purpose), their bodies would have also turned bright blue.
Of course, the original myth makers didn't know this and there is not one single detail of stacks of blue bodies being taken from the gas chambers. No mention of blue corpses? Wouldn't that kind of image really stick in your mind?
Anyway...
roman catholic lies from the bottom of the pit^^
https://ia800300.us.archive.org/30/items/Air_Photo_Evidence/Air_Photo_Evidence.pdf
Did you know that half of the 6 million Jews allegedly killed by the Nazis were all Polish. That's right, 98.5% of every Jew in Poland was exterminated, or we are told. If that is true, and it's not, why are there so many Polish Jews who survived the Holocaust, or claim to?
Also, there were less than 165,000 Jews living at Germany at the time Germany invaded Poland. Over 130,000 of them were serving in the German Army.
Before you attack me for the facts, know that my stepfather since childhood is Jewish. I grew up with Jewish grandparents who were very sweet people. You know what they never talked about? The holocaust. Never.
The sign at Auschwitz was changed from 6m to just over 1. Not denying Jews were persecuted and killed, just the gas chambers are not supported by facts. I am old enough to have known many survivors and was sickened by the pogroms that took place even after the war. The very fact that people are not allowed to question is a huge red flag.
What about the ovens used to incinerate the evidence? Why did they need ovens?
To burn lice infested hair and clothing. What evidence?
The pogroms did not target the Jews, they targeted Christians. Another big lie.
The Kielce Pogrom: A Blood Libel Massacre of Holocaust Survivors July 4, 1946.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-kielce-pogrom-a-blood-libel-massacre-of-holocaust-survivors
So tell me, have you dug into this to see if it's true? If they lied about the total on the Holocaust wouldn't they lie about individual incidents and write them into history? Look what the Deep state is doing with history right now. These articles mean nothing unless they are thoroughly vetted.
Now you sound just like my daughter when she gets info that goes against her belief. I knew people who lived there, ok?
I'm much smarter than both you and your daughter. Weren't you the person who messaged me about getting perma-banned just last month? Why did you feel the need to do that?
To say goodbye and thank those who were kind enough to support me. As for your supposition regarding intelligence, keep telling yourself that.
Supposedly Russian Jews were targets of pogroms, by the Rothschild-Rockefeller complex, to make them want to move out of Russia, and into key swing states, and were told to vote Democrat.
This comment is anti-Semitic and I’m reporting you to the ADL for hate speech against liars and their blood libels
I personally know Polish Jews that were born in the camps after the war ended. Their parents were the only survivors of their immediate and entire extended families. My own family on my mother's side fled Russia at the turn of the century. They were the only survivors. Anyone that remained was either killed in the Revolution, died in the Gulags, or died in one of the two wars - by either the Russians or the Germans. My mother's family never talked about it either. It was too horrible to discuss around the dinner table. 100 years later, in the area of Russia where these communities once thrived, there remains no trace. There is no evidence that these people even existed if not for some surviving records kept by those communities. Trying to reconstruct the history is nearly impossible.
We can possibly debate the actual numbers, but that does not discount the fact that real people were affected in ways that we cannot even begin to image. It is a horrible thing to have been a victim of an atrocity, especially of the magnitude being discussed here, and then to have your experience invalidated by those that do not believe you, and at worst, accuse you a being a liar. I have personally experienced this myself and it is a special kind of injustice. Is there really that much difference between whether it was 6 million souls or 1 million? Remember this, the Nazis, like many of the evil bastards running the current extermination operations, kept different sets of books. We cannot completely rely on the "official" numbers. Those official numbers were carefully contrived to lead to the very conclusions some so called researchers are arriving at. The public in some cases in being played now, just as they were played then. There was a reason why the Nazis went on a major document burning program when it was clear that the war was not going their way. So, we must take everything with a grain of salt. Officials lied - just like they lie today about the numbers. Everything must be viewed with caution - everything.
I think the energy spent on debating the numbers here is actually a distraction. We are currently living through our own holocaust and we see the very same numbers games being played by those that want to deny what is occurring right in front of our eyes. They are adjusting the numbers to downplay what the reality is - but you know the perpetrators have their own unofficial books that tell a tail closer to the truth. If is is not called out now, it will only increase. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. History may not exactly repeat - but it sure does rhyme.
No. Understanding the truth of history is never a distraction.
The fact is, that we are currently involved in a very similar situation that needs our attention. To expend energies that would be better spent dealing with what we are facing in our own lives instead of looking in the rear view mirror trying to figure out numbers of people exterminated in the past, to me is a distraction. The end result of which teaches us nothing about man's ability to be cruel and inhumane when it serves a twisted purpose. All of those calculations being used to derive at some of these numbers are suspect to begin with. Governments are notorious for jacking "official" records to promote narratives. They cannot be relied upon. The Nazis in particular kept several sets of books. Which ones are to be believed? Real numbers are always hidden by those that have something to hide.
I am not denying that numbers could be inflated - like we have never seen that happen before. But. we must be careful when invalidating the pain and suffering of those that were directly affected, and whose testimonies are now being called into question. That many people cannot all be lying - one of them is my father and he had access to classified post war info and was on the ground in Germany after the war. He was the one who originally redpilled me and was always quick to identify bull shit when he saw it. I am just advising caution. All this discussion over what the truth is, in the end may have its own agenda pushing it forward.
An empty claim that has never been proven. Germans were the most precise people on Earth, and yet there is no evidence of anything that would validate the jew claims of gas chambers. No materials, no nothing that could even make it plausible.
So, they created yet another fantasy that there must have been "two sets of books." But no evidence to back it up.
I agree. The jews certainly do want to hide the fact that there were never 6,000,000 deaths, much less murders.
Maybe that's why they keep pushing the number lower, but don't really make a big news splash about it.
Right. But when there were claims of "6,000,000 jews in danger!" in newspaper articles going back to the 1890's, and when those stories were first that the jews were in danger in Russia (not Germany) at EXACTLY the same time that jews were plotting to overthrow Russia, and then later the same claim for Eastern Europe (not Germany), and then they took over Poland ... and then there were ZERO contemporaneous claims about Germany until many years AFTER ... then it's not so much a mere inflation of number. It's more like a precise number that had been pushed via propganda MULTIPLE TIMES before, and then also after. Almost like they were trying to fulfill a "prophecy" or something.
When you see that type of stuff, you have to consider that it might be propaganda, and not fact. Then, when years later they lower the number at Auschwitz from 4 million jews killed here to 1.5 million jews killed here, but keep the 6 million in total number, you have to consider it might be propaganda.
Then, when you realize that independent sources, such as World Almanac, at the time showed no decrease in jewish population, worldwide, before and after (much less 6 million), then you have to consider it might be propaganda.
Then, when you realize there were only about 200,000 jews in Germany at the time the war started, because Hitler had a deal with jewish leadership to allow jews to move to Palestine, which was their wet dream from the beginning, and there were not even 6 million jews available to kill in all of Germany-controlled territory, even if they wanted to, you have to consider it might be propaganda.
Inflated numbers is one thing. Made-up fantasy is quite another.
Being put into prison camps would be a horror. No doubt. The same horror suffered by Japanese-American on US soil.
But that does not justify some of them lying about their experiences many years later.
Many people can be lying, and many people can be "remembering" things that fit the narrative many decades later.
You would think that if the massive murders really took place, there would be thousands of people who would come forward after the war was over and talk about it.
The people in the camps who SAW the happenings. The people in the nearby villages (who could see right into the camps through the fences) who would say something.
But it was only a very few people MANY YEARS LATER who told the big stories.
The International Red Cross visted the camps many times, looking for the very things that were later claimed. You would think that someone in the camps would have whispered a thing or two. Nope. Nada.
The 6,000,000 story wasn't even a thing until many years later.
It has been proven that there were no gas chambers to murder people. There WERE crematoriums because people DID die of disease, old age, and maybe even some sort of abuse by Germans. And the "gas chambers" were used to kill lice, not people.
The Germans who lived to talk about it from their perspective, were adamant that they were under strict orders to NOT harm the prisoners. There is a story of one German commendant being hanged for abusing prisoners.
Maybe this is the REAL reason for summary executions and kangaroo courts immediately, rather than real trials with real evidence and witness testimony. REAL trials were never allowed. Nuremberg rules were according to Soviet law, not American or British law. And one of the rules was that no evidence needed to be provided in order to arrive at a conviction. There is only ONE reason why that would be a rule.
I say let the evidence from BOTH SIDES be shown to the world, and maybe we will know for sure what really happened. If I am wrong, I would want to know that. But the evidence that I have seen -- and I have seen evidence presented by both sides -- is heavily in favor of the Holohoax.
You can say it all you want, but if it cannot be verified, then it is not evidence to me.
Eisenhower even "recreated" a "gas chamber" at Dachau. He did this so US congressmen could tour the prison camps and see how it was. But this re-creation of a gas chamber was false. There are records of this in the US archives.
The reason he did this is that the Americans and British controlled Germany and the prison camps on German soil, while the Soviets controlled Poland and the prison camps on Polish soil.
Even the jews have never claimed that there were any gas chambers on the German side. They claim ALL gas chambers were in the Polish side camps.
So, Ike had to "recreate" a "gas chamber" since there wasn't one at Dachau or anywhere else where he was in control. (Your father would have been on the German side, not the Polish side. So, he could not have seen any gas chambers, even according to the jews' own version of the story.)
After the congressmen toured the camp, it was disassembled. We all want to "Like Ike," but he may not have been as he appeared, either.
There was propaganda on all sides during wartime, and maybe even more after.
Who knows? Maybe your father, unbeknownst to himself, was one of many people used to push a narrative by being given disinfo. We have all been fooled by disinfo. Maybe he was, too, and sincerely believed he knew what was what.
I don't put much value in a personal experience if (a) there is no evidence presented to back it up, and (b) there is much evidence that shows it is very unlikely or could not have been true.
Were there crematoriums? Yes. To dispose of the deceased. Does this mean they were purposely executed? No. One might jump to that conclusion, but that conclusion is just a guess. If that guess is made with a heavy dose of emotional trauma, then it becomes ever more suspect, and requires even more evidence to validate.
I have been fooled. Maybe your father was, too. Does not make him a liar or a bad person, just somewho who may have been a victim of propaganda, to which I say ... join the club.
Good post OP. Wait until people find out the other lies we have been told about WW2. Europa: The Last Battle is a good documentary. But be warned it is a big redpill to swallow if you're not ready for it.
got a link?
Here you go https://odysee.com/@DefiantIrishman:8/europalastbattle:a
Fun fact: every claimed gas chamber was on the communist Soviet Union’s side of the iron curtain. Our grandparents never seen any gas chambers just labor camps. No one knew about gas chambers till a year or more after the war ended. Think about that
Exactly,. As far as I know, there was only 1 witness to the gassing at the Nuremberg show trial, called by the Russians and swiftly dismissed.
Who is this man. I must hear this whole interview.
Q: Why did Herman Rosenblat lie about his experience in the holocaust?
A: because all of his friends were doing it too.
And because of generous payouts.
What most ppl don't realize is that the synagogue of satan Nazis as well.... That's why Ukraine can have a Jewish president and a Nazi military. It's all smoke and mirrors... They create the problem and dictate the out come by owning both sides...I think we've been living in a one world order since WW2... The whole world is a stage...
No this azov group is funded by jews and leadership is jews because they would never risk jewish blood for war. We are goyim to them. They also spread lies to keep the truth of how amazing the third reich was and try to say hitler was a jew yadda yadda. Fake news, even jfk said one day history will remember hitler as being loved by his people.
The issue here for me is that while i am sure the numbers are exaggerated how do you get past the fact that these camps existed and people where shipped there. Was it a holiday camp? A Nazi Butlins. The pictures i have seen don't look appealing to me.
It was an internment camp?
We litterally did the same thing to the japs. Only we didn't run out of food and loose a war. The jews in Europe only served themselves and were proven commies that would sabatoge everything.
No one is denying camps existed. History is written by victors - nearly all those camps were Russian controlled after the was. There is a lot of evidence to show some were work camps (Auschwitz even had a swimming pool), do some research.
(1) They were prison camps.
(2) So many were shipped to Auschwitz because it was a centralized hub in the system. People were first shipped there, checked for lice and health problems, and then shipped onto other camps where they would stay until trial. When war broke out, the prosecution aspect was delayed until after the war.
(3) The Americans put Japanese-Americans in prison, too. For the same reason: They didn't know if they could be trusted. Who's side would they be on in an American war with Japan? But we don't call those "concentration camps" or "death camps." We call them "internment camps," because it sounds nicer.
(4) The people sent to prison camps in Germany/Poland were suspected of subversion (i.e. sedition and treason) against the German people and government. German jews had committed treason against Germany in WWI when they agreed to help Britain defeat Germany (see: Balfour Declaration).
(5) In 1933, world Jewry declared war on Germany. So, there were many jews who lived in Germany that were secretly fighting to defeat Germany. Would would you do with those people? They were engaged directly in treason. Think: Gitmo.
(6) When German diplomats were murdered by jews, the German people had had enough, and that was when the Kristallnacht happened (for one night, and Hitler put a stop to it).
(7) When the Polish government, run by Russian jews, refused to stop crimes (rape, murder, etc.) against the ethnic Germans living in the divided Germany/Poland region created by the WWI peace treaty, Hitler tried to get other governments to aid the Germans. Nobody would do anything about it, so Hitler invaded Poland with his military, and ended the suffering within 48 hours. That was the action Britain needed to declare war on Germany.
(8) Once war started, more potentially subversive communist jews were rounded up and sent off to prison camps to be interned for the duration of the war, just as was done to Japanese-Americans in the USA.
(9) The people (not only jews) in the prison camps were treated well, by international prison standards, as well as international war time standards.
(10) There were ZERO gas chambers to kill people. The only gas chambers used were for killing lice in clothing and hair. The other stories were fabricated by the Soviets, who although were on the winning side of WWII, and were in charge of liberating the Polish camps (not the German camps), secretly wanted to continue their fight to instill communism in all of Europe, and then the world. So, they lied about what they found, to push their agenda, which was also the jewish agenda.
After that, it was all fairy tales, for the purpose of collecting money and pushing a political agenda, which is now being played out in the USA and the world.
BTW, the photos you see of the liberation, with starved prisoners are photos that were taken AFTER the liberation actually happened, and NOT during the liberation.
How do we know? Because there is no snow in any of the pictures. The liberation of the Polish camps was in January 1945. There was a lot of snow on the ground.
Since there was no snow in the photos, the photos were taken at another time.
Some speculate it was Russian propganda, with prisoners somewhere else being photographed, and others speculate that some of the photos were from Americans and Brits taking pictures of the starving German people after the war (Eisenhower put them into a prison camp, and many died).
Regardless, those photos taken outdoors with no snow could NOT have been taken in January 1945.
Not one nazi denied it. Not one. How could they with all the dead bodies lying around. They said they were just following orders. And now that all of the American soldiers who eyewitnessed it are no longer able to refute these lies, out come the roman catholics. hitler was a roman catholic, himmler was a roman catholic, goebbels was a roman catholic. roman catholics have murdered hundreds of millions of people, even before Christ Lived, and surely they would have never killed the jews say the roman catholics. Study history instead of ONE MOVIE, made by the roman catholics.
Spielberg is a catholic? Since when? RCs existed even before Christ lived? US soldiers found a lot of dead and dying people due to typhoid and starvation, most people were starving towards the end of the war. I don't know of any Germans admitting to gas chambers, following orders could be applied to anything. And yes, I've studied a lot of history, thank you.
Spielberg told the truth, so no, he couldn't possibly be a catholic.
So check it out, do you also deny the crusades and inquisitions? Do you also deny that rome was hitlers only real ally? Why did Rommel make a beeline straight for Jerusalem? Have the romans not falsely claimed to be God's chosen people?
Did he tell the truth about Heather O'Rourke ? He made a film about a fictional story written by Thomas Kaneally. As for the rest - I haven't the time.
Andy_Man45,
You're using sophistry and posing rhetorical questions, without sharing evidence or facts. So, I'll answer for you.
Not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that Spielberg told the truth when the movie was based on a novel. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/375013.Schindler_s_List?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=DbqRlt3U8m&rank=1
The Crusades were a fight for the holy land. I'd love to hear someone argue that Christians should have just quit and allowed the barbarian infidels to take over.
I haven't read up on why Rommel went straight for Jerusalem.
I don't know about who Roman's claim to be, but RCs do not claim to be God's chosen people. It is the original Christian church established by Christ when he chose Peter to be his rock.
And the most important point that will prove this whole BS WWII narrative false: what NEVER gets reported is what was happening in Europe in the 20's and 30's. Ever wonder why "fascism" was so widespread throughout Europe? BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THE COMMIE ZIONIST NWO THREAT. "Oh Franco was such a dictator in Spain, the Church was persecuting everyone". Well what would you do if your country was infiltrated by commie scum? Would you fight back?
Ever hear about how "enlightened" and free Berlin was between the world wars? Do you know where pushing the tranny narrative and other disgusting perversions started? In Berlin, in the 20's, by the Jews. https://www.hyphen-report.com/queer-judiasm-a-tactical-overview-of-the-jewish-obsession-with-gayness/
Read up on what Popes Leo XIII and St. Pius X had to say about communism. It is no wonder that the church aligned with Hitler. It's too bad more nations did not do the same.
Regarding your hatred of the church. There is a shocking amount of Catholic hate in the .win community. I will concede that the church upper hierarchy and "Pope" Jorge are all rotten to the core, it has been infiltrated by commies and freemasons for almost 100 years. But >90% of Catholics I know are MAGA/AF to the core. So I'm not sure where all the antipathy comes from when the vast majority of us are right here with you. The faith and doctrine are sound so I choose to attend mass, keep the sacraments, and pray for a purge in my lifetime.
Not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that Spielberg told the truth
I'm not sure what Spielberg even has to do with this. I didn't bring him up. I don't rely on ONE MOVIE made by roman catholics, I rely on evidence, historical facts and common sense.
The Crusades were a fight for the holy land.
So why did the roman catholics kill jews during the crusades? Now answer the inquisition part.
I haven't read up on why Rommel went straight for Jerusalem.
You really need to "read up?" If you do, start with rome, Italy, they were the first ones headed that way but the British wiped them out. They aren't very good at killing armed people, thank the Lord.
I don't know about who Roman's claim to be, but RCs do not claim to be God's chosen people.
This you DO need to read up on. It's a church statement. They've destroyed the Word of God so that they could make it read of a post millennial Kingdom, which they bring in, of course. They changed Holy Scripture to make Peter the rock, ordinary bread the body of Christ, too many things to list.
Well what would you do if your country was infiltrated by commie scum?
Dude, look around. It's worse than anything Germany faced. Do you have an urge to kill off most of Canada and Mexico? This is justification for you?
It is no wonder that the church aligned with Hitler.
The THIRD Reich. A THOUSAND YEAR Reich. The Kingdom of God, eh? What were the first and second Reichs? Yes, roman catholics and germany. Killing jews and whoever else they could "justify." Almost like they were created to do this.
There is a shocking amount of Catholic hate in the .win community.
This dude is screeching at me from the midst of a thread that is hating on the Jews. He is actively defending hating on the Jews. What does the Lord Jesus Christ say about hating on the Jews? Bless or curse? And notice how He doesn't say the same about the church?
I hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans is what He said. Who are the Nicolaitans? Nico = over, Laity = believers. Who is more over their believers than a church that claims to be the SOLE source of salvation in Christ? One that makes you worship idols and the queen of heaven, just like the pagans did. Sorry if I can't hitch up to your wagon.
There is one easy answer to everything you say. The Jews/Khazars/whatever you want to call them have been liars and cheaters and consistently a horrible lot from the start. There's a reason they have been expelled from 109 countries, but, I guess your explanation would be that they have been unfairly targeted for no reason.
Mind you I won't make a blanket statement about everyone in a group. But if you seriously don't think that these people are behind whole mass immigration population replacement pedo NWO globalist ideology, then you need to look deeper.
I guess your explanation would be that they have been unfairly targeted for no reason.
Guess again. The same people killed the prophets sent by God to tell them of a coming Messiah, then they killed the Messiah and after one last chance, rejected the Gospel by killing the preacher telling them of it. I know EXACTLY why they are the most universally hated people in all the world, because God poured His wrath on them. This is another reason why I know 6 million of them were murdered; God allowed satan's seat to do it.
But if you seriously don't think that these people are behind whole mass immigration population replacement pedo NWO globalist ideology, then you need to look deeper.
You have been TRICKED into believing this. The very first round up of Americans will result in all the people doing the rounding up being killed. The Jews went PEACEFULLY. They could have stopped it from the start. These are the people you blame for all the world's ills, while those who rounded them up are the real ENEMY.
For anyone reading this thread and on the fence about what the truth really is, just consider this:
If you ask someone why Hitler hated jews, you will get a blank stare or a "just because he was evil."
But you will NEVER get any actual REASON. People do not do things for no reason at all. They might be wrong. They might even be crazy. But they ALWAYS have a reason.
And if you ask, ok if Hitler was crazy, then why did the German people go along with it? NOBODY has an answer to that, if they believe the mainstream narrative.
How many times have you heard people say, "I could never understand why the German people would go along with it."
I have heard that countless times.
So maybe ...
There is a different narrative that ACTUALLY answers these questions.
Do YOU want to see globalist criminals and poltical puppets go to prison? Do YOU want to seem them prosecuted and sent to Gitmo?
Well, so did the German people. THEY wanted the criminals to go to prison, and Hitler put them there.
The jews and non-jews who went to the prison camps in the beginning were SUBVERSIVES. They were engaged in TREASON. They were pushing a communist overthrow of Germany, just like they had done in Russia and Poland, moving westward to take over all of Europe.
THIS is WHY Hitler and the German people wanted the commies in prison.
And it just so happens that JEWS were behind the communist overthrow in Russia, and JEWS were behind the communist takeover in Poland, and JEWS were pushing for a communist takeover in Germany, and then Europe, and then the world.
Not ALL jews, but the leadership pushing this evil were jews.
THIS is why they ended up in prison camps BEFORE the war.
Once the war started, then more jews were also rounded up (though not all, not by a long shot) if they were suspected of being subversive (i.e. treasonous) to Germany, to be sorted out after the war was over.
The SAME EXACT thing that was happening in America with Americans of Japanese ancestry.
Once it is put into the proper perspective, it makes sense.
It is not that Hitler and the German people hated jews "for no reason," it is that they hated the subversives who were trying to destroy Germany from within, and they happened to be jews (mostly, thought not all).
If you ask someone why Hitler hated jews, you will get a blank stare or a "just because he was evil."
hitler rose to power on the promise of avenging the loss and humiliation of WW1. He wrote in mein kampf about living space for the German people. Guess who held a lot of that living space?
Something else I should add; hitler was a proponent of the darwin theory. He thought Germans were the master race. This was part of bringing in the 1000 year Reich, he thought he could bring in the kingdom of God by ridding it of all the "subhumans." Who put these thoughts in his head; the catholics.
This is the KEY to the entire thing.
So many people pretend to "forget" that the commies had just overthrown Russia and institued communism. They were moving west towards Europe. They had taken over Poland and were headed next for Germany, which they were already infiltrating, but had not yet taken over.
Hitler and the National Socialists were reacting to that threat, and doing something about it.
The fact that the communists were run by jews is conveniently overlooked.
Hitler was fighting the communists, who happened to be jews, and not all jews in general.
People other than jews went to the prison camps, because they were subversives.
Some jews also went to the prison camps, because they were subversives.
Jews who were not subversives did not go to the prison camps.
Ann Frank's father, for example, was a subversive, and was cheating on his contracts with the German government. That is why he was arrested. Later, he would fake the Ann Frank Diary, writing the "juicy" parts himself. Ann never wrote any of that, only mundane day-to-day stuff while living during a war.
The reason that WWII, Hitler and the National Socialists circa 1920's-1940's story is important and relevant to today -- including being Q-related -- is because we're experiencing the SAME THING TODAY.
Communists were the real problem (whether jewish or not) in Germany, just as they were in 1900's-1910's Russia.
And ... they are the #1 problem in America today, as well as the worldwide problem.
The globalists don't really give a damn about communism, per se. It's just that communism seems to rally the useful idiots to fight for the cause of the globalists.
The criminal globalists are small in number, so they must have a large number of useful idiots to carry out their objectives.
But those criminal globalists will eventually execute those useful idiots, once their usefulness is over.
Many of the leaders of these criminal globalists, though not all, are jews.
That was the story in 1917, and in 1933, and today.
Learn from history, so as not to repeat it.
This is what is known as forum sliding and trying to change the subject.
Was there ANY proof of gas chambers used for murder?
No.
They have pictures of gas vans. It started with injections in the mental institutions, then when to mass shootings and then gas vans. The gas van didn't work because the people driving them hated their work, floored the engine, trying to get it over with (they could hear screaming, little children, etc) and the sight before unloading was atrocious. They were supposed to drive slow and put the cargo to sleep. The same engine, attached to a building, run at the proper speed, only makes sense. Moving to poison gas, next logical step. Crematoria that SMOKED ALL NIGHT AND ALL DAY FOR YEARS ON END? Thousands of pictures? Not enough evidence?
LOL.
I would like to see you sign up to drive a "gas van," where lethal poison is being pumped into the back while you are driving around town.
If you don't see what a ridiculous lie that is, then you are either a shill or a jew who cannot accept that maybe your people are not so virtuous, after all.
Not enough CREDIBLE evidence, no. In fact, NO credible evidence.
Claims of fantasy? Yes, plenty. Credible evidence? None.
I would like to see you sign up to drive a "gas van," where lethal poison is being pumped into the back while you are driving around town.
It's actually ingenious, diabolically, of course. Hook the exhaust from the engine to the van compartment. Load it up, drive to the dump. Unload.
If you don't see what a ridiculous lie that is, then you are either a shill or a jew
https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=nazi+gas+van+images&segment=startpage.brave
Actually ... it is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.
I don't believe that even YOU would buy into such a stupid claim.
The Nazis in the Hague were beaten, tortured and starved into an admission, that's called under duress. At first they denied it.
I'm with you on the Roman Catholic church, they are part of the enemy and we do need to call it out for its heresies, apostasies, inquisitions and child abuse.
The Nazis in the Hague were beaten, tortured and starved into an admission, that's called under duress.
Most of the SS were shot on sight. Why? Because everyone knew what they had done.
I'm talking about the ones that stood trial
go back to Israel
This is the best that you can do? The romans don't set very high standards, do they?
So… why did all the German women get raped?
Such a virtuous people ... to those who are sick and twisted.
You bring up some great points Andy_Man45. My father was in Germany after the war. I have no reason to believe that my father lied to me about what he saw in the camps. He was attached to a high ranking general and was privy to all kinds of classified information. He was sickened and was deeply affected by what he saw. According to him, it was incomprehensible that people could be that inhumane. He had no doubts as to what happened.
I know many people who's entire immediate and extended families were wiped out and only they survived. I also know several people that decades after the war ended, they were finally told the truth - that they were in fact Jewish children that were raised by Christian families in order to save them. I also personally know people that were born in the refugee camps after the war ended. Many Jews were still kept in camps alongside their German overlords. So, I think we need to approach this whole issue of the denial of wartime atrocities carefully. I put more stock in those that were actually there and saw what happened. Are they all lying? That is ridiculous. Unfortunately, many of those that were eyewitnesses have now passed leaving the floor open for those that may have other agendas to muddy the waters. There is no one living that can refute what appears to be new evidence. How convenient.
Here is another angle to consider. What benefit can be derived by trying to downplay the extent of the extermination? If people can be led to believe that such a thing did not happen, then they would be less likely to think it could happen in our day? Look at all the vaxxine injury deniers. They wouldn't kill thousands of people, if not millions, like that - now would they? They would then be less likely to believe that we can be rounded up and killed in quarantine camps now. It amazes me how people can discount the testimony of millions that were actually there and basically call them liars. We can have an honest debate on the actual numbers and about those responsible, but to discount the events and invalidate the tragedy suffered by so many is beyond cruel. It in itself is inhumane. If we cannot learn by the mistakes of history, we are helpless to keep it from happening again.
Another thing I haven't mentioned yet, this thread was coordinated, you can plainly see it. Same people are involved as always. It's all about hatred of the Jewish people and, by denying it ever happened, makes it possible for it to happen again. Which is what they want, you're right, what other motive could they have?
So, Jews had been living in Germany with apparently no problems for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, and then one day the German people decided to kill them all?
That doesnt make any sense does it?
Is there more to the story?
Why the hate?
First and Second Reich. The roman catholics have been murdering Jews since they started calling themselves catholics. Is history that hard to study?
I know the holocaust is a big lie, so why should i believe your other narratives?
Thank you. I am always hesitant about jumping into these discussions because, as you stated, it is not about having an honest discussion - it is about platforming hate and to seed doubt for another agenda. I was encouraged to see you chime in as I know you come to the table well prepared. What I worry about is the newbies lurking on these threads. That is the only reason I feel motivated to engage with the haters.
The newbies had a previous username that got called out. There used to be a ANON that had a list of the ones propagating the hate, I'll have to do some looking to find him. The ones that were busted just change their names. That's why all the handshakes are here.
Plus, they recruit to add to their upvotes.
I'm getting worried about GAW, it may go completely over to the enemy. Christianity.win already has, either you praise catholics or you get DELETED.
I think I remember seeing that post about those usernames. I have been engaged I think with such a hater just on this post. Point by point response to a reply filled with.... Do you want to have a discussion, or do you just want to yell your viewpoints about this group or that group being Satan's spawn? I just don't have time for that kind of stuff based on visceral emotion and wanting to argue more than actually exchanging ideas. It is tired.
I really don't pay much attention on the level of the usernames. I am just not that savvy. Other than this board, I don't do social media at all. But, like you said, I have seen some crazy conversations lately that are different. Lots of bashing of this group or that group based on the same tired old narratives that make the rounds every few years that have been around for at least the last several hundred years or so. I don't spend anywhere near the time I used to here because of the direction it is headed. Mostly, it is a way to catch up on headlines. The anons are way ahead getting the news out.
I miss VOAT.
What SPECIFICALLY did he claim to see? And was he a jew?
That means the entire family was NOT wiped out. Typhoid killed a lot of people in Europe at that time, and starvation at the end of the war (with no food supplies) probably killed some more. Sad, but let's be real about what happened.
Many Germans were held in camps by Americans (Eisenhower). There may have been some German jews in that mix.
Many of them have been liars, yes. Many jews have ADMITTED it on camera that they lied. And why would that be?
Because the jewish religion teaches that it is ok to lie IF it promotes a "good cause" in the jew's eyes. They have used this as their excuse, such as "Sure it was not true, but people must remember the horror." Never mind that the horror was a made-up fantasy, which is why they had to lie about it in the first place.
Yes, that tends to happen when you sumarily execute people without a trial, or provide only a kangaroo court hearing for those who were tortured into confession. You tend to be left with no one who can refute what the surviving liars have to say.
If there was no extermination, then there is no benefit, and only harm, by believing lies.
The truth is the ONLY thing that matters.
And that is EXACTLY what many jews who admitted to lying about it said. They said they lied so that it would never happen again (nevermind that "it" didn't happen in the first place).
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. The people who believe the bullshit Holocaust story ... are the EXACT people who INSISTED that non-vaxxers BE ROUNDED UP and put into quarantine camps.
They are a strange breed because they deny that anyone is going to round up people ... and then when the Coof hits ... they INSIST that people be rounded up.
These people are NOT thinking rationally. Maybe if they understood the lies surrounding 1930's Germany, they would be better equipped to think it through.
Maybe the lies are a part of the reason why they tend to not think critically. If you believe in lies, you are bound to be a little off in your thinking.
Now, THAT is a lie.
There were NOT "millions" of people who testified to gas chambers and mass murder AND were there to see it (but somehow, these "eye witnesses" were the only ones who did NOT get such treatment).
Nobody denies there were prison camps. There were also prison camps in America for the Japanese.
But as far as a program to exterminate jews in German and Polish prison camps, via gas chambers, there are NOT "millions" of eye witness accounts.
There MIGHT be dozens. And many of those have ADMITTED that they were NOT there and were NOT eye witnesses, though they CLAIMED to be. And they specifically say they lied because they BELIEVED the stories and they wanted to preserve the stories.
IOW, it is ok to lie if it promotes a "good" cause.
That is EXACTLY what the jews are taught by their Talmud, so it should not be a surprise when they follow their religion.
And ... this is WHY so many people have hated jews throughout history. It is not merely because of their religion. It is because of their BEHAVIOR, which is influenced by their religion.
Not ALL jews act this way. But ALL jews BENEFIT from other jews who DO, and so most jews are not honest enough to acknowledge it.
Jews, more than anyone else, need to WAKE THE FUCK UP about the history of WHY so many people hated their ancestors. Maybe they can change the world, if they do. Just like this rabbi explains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTB5SoyYzq4
There is no reason to argue over what obviously are your strongly held viewpoints and to argue semantics. I respectfully don't happen to agree and my viewpoints are based upon my own research and contact with numerous people that actually lived through those horrors that you seem so quick to dismiss - and that is okay. You are entitled to have those viewpoints and I will continue to defend your right to have them.
And no, my father was not Jewish - not that whether he was Jewish or not makes any difference here. He saw first hand what those camps looked like when the Allies went in. There was a great deal of coverup that took place. Simply because it was that bad. He was attached to a general tasked with post war reconstruction and to some extent - the coverups. The goal at that point was to put as much of it in the rear view mirror as possible and bury the rest. All the stuff about moving high level Nazis out of Europe are true. There is so much the public is clueless about and things are never what the narratives claimed. The first redpill my father fed me - the government always lies.
I will give you one story. I do not remember which particular camp he was speaking about, but he told me there was a cement channel that led from the crematorium to the river. When the bodies were in the ovens there was blood that was released from the process. When he went into the camp the blood was still visible as a stain in that channel that was at least 6 inches high. I don't remember exactly how wide the channel was - maybe about a foot. When he realized what he was looking at, he immediately became ill. That was just one thing he saw that affected him till the day he died.
They evidently were burning bodies up until the time the allies liberated the camp - if that is what you call it. They did not just release people that were being held in the camps. There was no place for them to go and what was left of the surrounding governing structures did not want this flood of refuges released. They were starving and they were sick. So, they were kept in the camps and some remained for several years because there was simply no place for them to go. So yes, there were German military prisoners along side those that had been their captives. There was no place to put the German prisoners until they were processed.
Jews were not the only ones being held in those camps and they were not the only ones that were brutalized - but it seems they are the group, for better or for worse, that people want to either hold up, or to demonize.
Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed response to my reply. Excuse me if I do not respond point by point as you have done. It is obvious that you are not going to sway my views, nor would I, yours. But again, that is okay.
I'm not really interested in arguing with you.
You have stated your opinion.
I have stated my opinion.
It's really for others who read through to decide for themselves what makes more sense:
Thank you. Very well then. I can appreciate where you are coming from.
found the JDIF shill
Yes, a JDIF shill that professes Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, awesome dicktective work.