Of course she is not an ugly, fat, troll. It is amazing how most of the gimme-dats on the other side are so fucking ugly, inside and out. They should have reallocated some of the twinkle funds to their student loans. Oh wait, their student loans were their twinkle funds.
This has nothing to with students. This is really a kickback to universities to perpetuate a failed system (successful only on stuffing pockets
The university system is a fraud pushed onto young people. Anyone that thinks 18 year olds ‘should know better’ making a $100,000 life decision… shouldn’t the adults know better who create this system AND spend the kids entire childhood pushing this upon them.
There is a bigger picture to all this.
Frankly, it is not worth having an emotional opinion either way on this. Clearly just a typical superficial campaign issue to get both sides wound up and stoke division.
Agreed. You can’t beat into kids’ heads that college is their only chance and then call them stupid for having to take out loans to attend. I know people like to shit on the people that took out major loans for go-nowhere careers like gender studies but what about the majority that did not?
This move by Biden only pisses me off because with as horrible as things are for us financially, we get nothing. I want help too, dammit. I want to be able to breathe a sigh of relief instead of sacrifice food to cover bills, or vice versa.
I am one of those people that took out loans for a degree that applies to my good career, and broadly to many others as well! I’m happy to pay my loans back. The only problem is that, without any borrower consent, the interest was changed to daily compounding instead of APR years ago—meaning I will probably end up paying back THREE TIMES what I borrowed. Now how is that acceptable? I think a rational solution is to slash interest rates and make them APR instead of daily compounding, and hold these colleges accountable for their prices. I was paying $580/credit hour at a public university. Almost $2500/class. Not possible out of pocket unless you want to take 15 years to get a degree.
I agree that the taxpayer is not responsible for other’s student loan debt however student loan forgiveness is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions in taxpayer dollars this illicit administration is funneling to Ukraine and other DS operations around the world.
Your blame game is misplaced. The blame resides squarely with a gaslighting, corrupt and depraved government who fooled a trusting, Patriotic People into thinking they would wisely use funding to help.
People blaming the generations are either simply stupid and falling for the psyop of division or are complicit gaslighters themselves.
Talk about divide and conquer. Sounds like it's working judging by the "muh boomer" rhetoric.
This is effectively "orange man bad" except instead of referring to one person you're referring to millions of people based solely on an arbitrary number as if they're all one group who unanimously decided to fuck over you in particular.
Wow, sounds like you’re a blackpilled student loan debt holder. If Bidan can convince anybody to vote Dem come November because he’ll forgive student loan debt, hey, more power to them and him.
I hold no debt. This is one of the most random, ridiculous, nonsensical accusations I've ever received on here. I'm also far from blackpilled and don't see how not disliking and blaming an entire generation for the actions of some makes me such. Nor how that position equates to me being a student loan debt holder.
Absolutely correct. If you were stupid enough to take a student loan at all, I hope it earned you a living wage. And do NOT ask me to pay for your student loan - I paid mine off many years ago. Man, was THAT a happy day! You deserve that feeling, too.
It’s sad how many of you still think taxes support the government and therefore any spending decision comes out of your pocket directly
Taxes are merely a confiscation of wealth to prevent you from getting ahead.
Consider the fact the government has spent well beyond what it collects in taxes for the majority of its existence. Does it really take you all over 100 years to figure out the income tax only exists to limit you, but does nothing to limit how much the government can and will spend?
Why is no one talking about the bigger issue of all theee kids fraudulently being groomed to think the university system provides anything of value? When all these 18 year olds are signing up for school… where are all the 40 and 50 and 60 year old elders stopping them from walking into crushing debt?
If a baby sticks a finger in an electric outlet, do you blame the baby?
How about us lowly public servants in low paying jobs? Not asking for handouts, and have paid back my fair share on my loans just wouldn't be against some help
I got student debt cause my dumbass was suckered into the propaganda when I was younger. I am not asking nor wanting the debt gone in this way as I know full well this was all my fault for not being strong enough to say no.
I am simply writing this to let you fellow pedes know that just because someone has student debt, doesn't mean we are the idiot socialists asking for free stuff. God bless you all pedes.
Agreed, I remember collecting aluminum cans as a student so I could get a hamburger. My friends car broke down and we had to bike everywhere until we could get it fixed. We biked to multiple parks desperately trying to find aluminum. I feel so privileged when watching the latest MESAGE movie telling me about the privilege of my skin color.
Same Here! Grew up dirt poor in Texas. My family didn't have a garden, when we would be hungry we would eat grass, dirt, or swallow air. I used to walk the streets with no shoes untill I found 35 cents to get a loaf of bread to make "wish sandwiches" where you make a sandwich and add some condiments you took from a fast food restaurant and ate it wishing you had meat. Eventually There was a store that would throw away their food at a certain date and we learned to go at that time and get the expired food to feast on. I spent 4 hours a day riding a metro to get to college on borrowed money. I worked after and before school and had to beg my Druggy dad to give me the 5 dollars I was short each month for school. I moved away from them, to where my girlfriend (now wife) lived and she was the biggest help. Got a 200$ a month apt in 2008 in some Russian lady's attic and went to college there. I graduated #1 in my college. I am a machine learning data developer. I paid my college in full.
I am in favor of universities being required to refund, in full, any student who does not (this isn't a "can" issue IMO) obtain gainful employment OR lose all future government grants & funding.
Personally I think it would be best to allow students to declare bankruptcy on these debts, then the banks would correct the issue immediately if they survived.
And as the cocksuckers announce another couple billion headed to the blackhole that is Ukraine, it is time to cut this illegal, corrupt government off from funding. Our forefathers started a revolution over taxation without representation. May the People today wake up and do the same.
If half the world taught this kind of discipline and hard work, this world wouldn’t be filled with dumb brainless lazy mentally ill faggots that contribute to the downward trend of societal decline.
Just a wee bit ironic don't you think?
Lived in government housing and got 4 degrees via the GI bill?
Someone who lived off of taxpayer money complaining they don't want to pay for other's education.
Love the first photo of a young girl who just joined the USAF and has that look of trepidation and nervousness to the bottom photo of a strong,confident,beautiful woman who is in total control. We have the BEST women.
Honestly, I’m not 100% opposed to some sorta relief for these idiots, but on 3 conditions.
It’s done on the backs of the schools that put these kids into debt instead of the taxpayers.
It’s not 100% forgiven (students need to have some skin in the game)
Anyone who went up to there eyeballs in debt for a worthless degree that has ever referred to people who became productive citizens out of high school are not to get any help.
Why are 18 year olds not able to get a $100,000 loan for a new Escalade?
Lending standards.
If a bank loaned an 18 year old $100,000 for an Escalade, would we have expected the bank or the kid to have made a better decision?
Why do we view student loans differently?
Scott Adams calls it thinking past the sale.
They focus our attention on the back end. No one is asking who loaned kids all this money in the first place.
The government is trying to cover up what is about to be a massive bust of people who can’t pay back these loans because it never should’ve happened to begin with.
Of course she is not an ugly, fat, troll. It is amazing how most of the gimme-dats on the other side are so fucking ugly, inside and out. They should have reallocated some of the twinkle funds to their student loans. Oh wait, their student loans were their twinkle funds.
Astute and accurate observation
Definitely hot, wager it will take a real man to secure that as a wife.
Be funny if she would rather stay single or go for a nerd.
And the Wokes are pro-abortion. As though any of them are in danger of becoming pregnant.
They are fat because they are lazy.....the lazy want free hand outs. It is almost like we have evolved into two different species.
Probably Parasites
Take a step back.
This has nothing to with students. This is really a kickback to universities to perpetuate a failed system (successful only on stuffing pockets
The university system is a fraud pushed onto young people. Anyone that thinks 18 year olds ‘should know better’ making a $100,000 life decision… shouldn’t the adults know better who create this system AND spend the kids entire childhood pushing this upon them.
There is a bigger picture to all this.
Frankly, it is not worth having an emotional opinion either way on this. Clearly just a typical superficial campaign issue to get both sides wound up and stoke division.
Precisely
Agreed. You can’t beat into kids’ heads that college is their only chance and then call them stupid for having to take out loans to attend. I know people like to shit on the people that took out major loans for go-nowhere careers like gender studies but what about the majority that did not?
This move by Biden only pisses me off because with as horrible as things are for us financially, we get nothing. I want help too, dammit. I want to be able to breathe a sigh of relief instead of sacrifice food to cover bills, or vice versa.
I am one of those people that took out loans for a degree that applies to my good career, and broadly to many others as well! I’m happy to pay my loans back. The only problem is that, without any borrower consent, the interest was changed to daily compounding instead of APR years ago—meaning I will probably end up paying back THREE TIMES what I borrowed. Now how is that acceptable? I think a rational solution is to slash interest rates and make them APR instead of daily compounding, and hold these colleges accountable for their prices. I was paying $580/credit hour at a public university. Almost $2500/class. Not possible out of pocket unless you want to take 15 years to get a degree.
Sort of, by keeping tuition high. The banks already paid the universities though. It's really another bank bailout.
YES! Finally someone gets it.
Also this accelerates the end of the fed so I am all for it.
Thank you for your service - we WILL return this country to a place we can all be proud of again. MAPA
u/#howl
I agree that the taxpayer is not responsible for other’s student loan debt however student loan forgiveness is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions in taxpayer dollars this illicit administration is funneling to Ukraine and other DS operations around the world.
Your blame game is misplaced. The blame resides squarely with a gaslighting, corrupt and depraved government who fooled a trusting, Patriotic People into thinking they would wisely use funding to help.
People blaming the generations are either simply stupid and falling for the psyop of division or are complicit gaslighters themselves.
Which are you Bill?
You literally made the comment he replied to and that's preciously what his comment was referring to.
Agreed! Keep us fighting among ourselves while they rob, rape and kill us while we’re preoccupied.
Talk about divide and conquer. Sounds like it's working judging by the "muh boomer" rhetoric.
This is effectively "orange man bad" except instead of referring to one person you're referring to millions of people based solely on an arbitrary number as if they're all one group who unanimously decided to fuck over you in particular.
To take it personally I would have to be a boomer. I'm not.
I'm just not a bigot and call out bullshit where I see it, from either side.
Yes. I have the receipts of me calling out leftists on Twatter if you want them.
Wow, sounds like you’re a blackpilled student loan debt holder. If Bidan can convince anybody to vote Dem come November because he’ll forgive student loan debt, hey, more power to them and him.
??????????
I hold no debt. This is one of the most random, ridiculous, nonsensical accusations I've ever received on here. I'm also far from blackpilled and don't see how not disliking and blaming an entire generation for the actions of some makes me such. Nor how that position equates to me being a student loan debt holder.
Yup fuck em
We have the best women!
bravo!!!!!
Wow. Based women are the best! A Patriot and attractive. Im feeling like a simp.
She does a lot for veterans, she is a good follow.
Absolutely correct. If you were stupid enough to take a student loan at all, I hope it earned you a living wage. And do NOT ask me to pay for your student loan - I paid mine off many years ago. Man, was THAT a happy day! You deserve that feeling, too.
Exactly let this shit show get started!
It’s sad how many of you still think taxes support the government and therefore any spending decision comes out of your pocket directly
Taxes are merely a confiscation of wealth to prevent you from getting ahead.
Consider the fact the government has spent well beyond what it collects in taxes for the majority of its existence. Does it really take you all over 100 years to figure out the income tax only exists to limit you, but does nothing to limit how much the government can and will spend?
Why is no one talking about the bigger issue of all theee kids fraudulently being groomed to think the university system provides anything of value? When all these 18 year olds are signing up for school… where are all the 40 and 50 and 60 year old elders stopping them from walking into crushing debt?
If a baby sticks a finger in an electric outlet, do you blame the baby?
TL:dr most people are fucking dumb
Gretchen. Class lady. Easy on the eyes.
Well what about reparations then, you evil white-privileged oppressor??
LOL
How about us lowly public servants in low paying jobs? Not asking for handouts, and have paid back my fair share on my loans just wouldn't be against some help
I wonder if she's married. Seems one of our male patriot frens on this board might like to get to know her. Lovely, bright and hard working lady.
Patriot matchmaking?
I got student debt cause my dumbass was suckered into the propaganda when I was younger. I am not asking nor wanting the debt gone in this way as I know full well this was all my fault for not being strong enough to say no.
I am simply writing this to let you fellow pedes know that just because someone has student debt, doesn't mean we are the idiot socialists asking for free stuff. God bless you all pedes.
Agreed, I remember collecting aluminum cans as a student so I could get a hamburger. My friends car broke down and we had to bike everywhere until we could get it fixed. We biked to multiple parks desperately trying to find aluminum. I feel so privileged when watching the latest MESAGE movie telling me about the privilege of my skin color.
Same Here! Grew up dirt poor in Texas. My family didn't have a garden, when we would be hungry we would eat grass, dirt, or swallow air. I used to walk the streets with no shoes untill I found 35 cents to get a loaf of bread to make "wish sandwiches" where you make a sandwich and add some condiments you took from a fast food restaurant and ate it wishing you had meat. Eventually There was a store that would throw away their food at a certain date and we learned to go at that time and get the expired food to feast on. I spent 4 hours a day riding a metro to get to college on borrowed money. I worked after and before school and had to beg my Druggy dad to give me the 5 dollars I was short each month for school. I moved away from them, to where my girlfriend (now wife) lived and she was the biggest help. Got a 200$ a month apt in 2008 in some Russian lady's attic and went to college there. I graduated #1 in my college. I am a machine learning data developer. I paid my college in full.
Smoking hot. And not just her looks.
I am in favor of universities being required to refund, in full, any student who does not (this isn't a "can" issue IMO) obtain gainful employment OR lose all future government grants & funding.
Personally I think it would be best to allow students to declare bankruptcy on these debts, then the banks would correct the issue immediately if they survived.
And as the cocksuckers announce another couple billion headed to the blackhole that is Ukraine, it is time to cut this illegal, corrupt government off from funding. Our forefathers started a revolution over taxation without representation. May the People today wake up and do the same.
If half the world taught this kind of discipline and hard work, this world wouldn’t be filled with dumb brainless lazy mentally ill faggots that contribute to the downward trend of societal decline.
Just a wee bit ironic don't you think? Lived in government housing and got 4 degrees via the GI bill? Someone who lived off of taxpayer money complaining they don't want to pay for other's education.
I don't care about that, all I wanna know is are you hiring? lol
Love the first photo of a young girl who just joined the USAF and has that look of trepidation and nervousness to the bottom photo of a strong,confident,beautiful woman who is in total control. We have the BEST women.
Proud of you! True American patriot
Cute, but when did anyone pay any of the national debt (where unpaid student loans will also end up)? She didn't and she won't. It's too late.
We honor your sacrifices,
and
Celebrate your victories.
Child of the land,
Teacher of truths,
Defender of freedoms.
What will you do tomorrow ?
Honestly, I’m not 100% opposed to some sorta relief for these idiots, but on 3 conditions.
Ok 3 is just me being vindictive
Why are 18 year olds not able to get a $100,000 loan for a new Escalade?
Lending standards.
If a bank loaned an 18 year old $100,000 for an Escalade, would we have expected the bank or the kid to have made a better decision?
Why do we view student loans differently?
Scott Adams calls it thinking past the sale.
They focus our attention on the back end. No one is asking who loaned kids all this money in the first place.
The government is trying to cover up what is about to be a massive bust of people who can’t pay back these loans because it never should’ve happened to begin with.
Good work. Now start a family if you haven't already.
Not everyone wants a family.
It is one of the most sacred duties we have.
Raising a family is the way .
I guess everyone is different though
Lots of great people in history didn't have families. Neither the Wright Brothers nor Nikola Telsa created families.