What can I do, in my small life, that would serve HIM? Did I act with kindness in all of my interactions, did I apply Patience, Mercy, Charity, for HIS Glory, or mine? DId I spend time in prayer, with our Emmanuel, our wonderful counselor? Do I withhold charity, say, in the form of donating to the food bank in our town, because it is manned by people who do not agree with my social outlooks, or do I disregard that because Christ told me in the Gospels to offer food and drink to the least of these? Surely the Bible must never be withheld from criminals, as the Lord God Jesus hung on the cross with criminals, and comforted them by telling them they will be in Paradise with them, because of their Faith. My life and how I lead it is between me and my Creator, not you, or "them", or any court here on Earth. I have to base my life on my reality, not what I read here, or there, that has anything to do with politics. I was such a judgemental angry person before I was healed in my spirit by Jesus Christ. I do not think I can love as HE loves me, I am so imperfect, but I can ask him every day to help me do this. There will be a reckoning someday for all sinners, as it is written in the scriptures. I try to live my life with that awareness. In my own family, there are good people who do not believe, I pray for them first, that somehow Jesus can come to them, I ask him to show himself to sinners, I pray for my enemies to come to the light, when it is impossible for me to love them as I have been commanded to.
Were these people born evil. Can evil create. Loving your enemies just means u see the creator within all no matter how evil the person has chosen to become. U don't love there sin but you love the fact that God created even them.
Lying is always a sin. Doesnt mean God cant turn that sin into something for the greater good. God already knows what we are gonna do before we will do it. He is weaving a giant tapestry with all our sin and love. Praise the Lord
See the problem here is you're thinking in absolutist terms. Of which there are a few legitimate points that Christians must adhere to without compromise, but for the most part, there's a bit of leeway BECAUSE we're Christians.
For example, you mentioned the whole "love your enemies" debacle most people tend to use to degrade Christians and call us hypocrites. Yes, God does tell us to love our enemies, but he also tells us to hate their sin. You can hate someone's actions and still be a Christian.
God and Jesus can forgive ANY sin. Forgiveness is not up to us, it's a personal matter between every individual and Jesus Christ.
God also knows we're imperfect beings. Even when he lays out rules for us, he knows that we won't be able to stand up to them most of the time. That's why Jesus being your Lord and Savior is so important. Accepting Jesus isn't some kind of "get out of jail free" card. If you're truly a Christian then you will know what you're doing is wrong, or you shouldn't feel that way. Even if you can't help it.
But that's the point. We're imperfect and can't help ourselves at times. Addiction, hate towards someone evil, anger and frustration at circumstances beyond our control, etc. All are technically sins, but God is more than willing to forgive them over and over. So long as you know you're in the wrong and ask for forgiveness, and try to better yourself, or ask God to help you better yourself.
As for the other part of your question. Faith above works. It's that simple. It may make some people mad, but I've got a bit of a reputation for not caring and saying the blunt truth even if it angers people and makes them butthurt.
Faith above works. You can be the biggest saint, the nicest person, give away every penny you ever make to the poor and hungry, live in poverty to provide for children in need, etc. etc. and still go to hell if you're not saved and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Good people can, and do, go to hell. The path that leads to Heaven is narrow after all. There's literally one way into Heaven. Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. All the good works in the world can't change that fact.
That's why I harp about the queers and other forms of mainstream sin so often. Yeah, queers can be good people, and have their morals mostly align with ours. But they're still going to hell as they are. (Plus open acceptance of homosexuality is historically proven to lead to societal degeneration and open acceptance of deviant sexual acts. Hence our current sexually deviant and sex obsessed society.)
Hell wasn't added to the Bible until 1600...the concept didn't exist before but the pope brought it in and during the inquisitions millions died. Jews who actually wrote the old testament as a history of what happened to them when the aliens invaded and knew that the man now called jesus was a hybrid of the invaders and was born for the role he played ...they knew he was not a God or the son of God and so do the Muslims..they know he was a man too. The inquisitions were to wipe out the unbelievers who knew they were aliens not fallen angels and Yahweh was a psychopathic genocidal killer butchering millions not the loving God they tried to portray...nuking Sodom and Gomorrah and sparing noah as he was a hybrid alien.
The rapture was added in 1835 as a footnote and when pastors saw the reaction and consequent money pouring in it as added as canonical text.
The naivety of anyone believing that saying I accept Jesus.christ who never existed the man who was on the cross for a few hours was taken down alive as promised by the elohim /Yahweh as part of the religion they were going to make.
Didn't an angel talk to Mohammad? Not an angel..an alien ..how many billions have died cos that religion doesn't see this Jesus Christ as their saviour..depopulate depopulate depopulate. Crusades crusades crusades
The church wanted a one world religion then with everyone following the satanic crap they were peddling. And still are
Read the 75 books removed to make this story believable to anyone naive enough not to use critical thinking.
One of them was called the wars of yahweh...killing us..millions and.millions of us.
How many Jewish pope's do you think there has been?
Look at Martin Luther ..look at his history and the two pope's he was working with the Medicis... Bankers like his family...what did he do? He introduced usury which was forbidden to Catholics...
Rothschilds central banks..Russia threw them out..and here we are in a war..gadaffi was arranging an African gold system and leaving the petro dollar the Ashkenazi Jews Rothschild Ponzi scheme is tied to..what happened?
You can go online..download the clay cuniform tablets and read for yourself what they say from thousands of years ago about the aliens .
Is this why they won't confirm the alien presence the cloning they did the craft they had that NASA copied and is in ezikiel and the Mahabharata? Cos people might start to actually think?
Do you really believe Jonah survived the digestive juices never mind anything else of a whale..it was a submarine..the accounts in the Bible itself say Jonah could see the depths and there was a pearl that lit the inside of the whale. For pity's sake!!! There are drawings of submarines and aircraft on the pyramid walls
Not what they say in the oh so correct and truthful bible..he was vomited out ..he was sent to Nineveh by yahweh and he ran away as he did not want to go in the submarine. He was found and forced to get in it.
No do try...it's not me steeped in mythology..don't project. Things have to work within the universal laws of the universe....even the digestive juices of the whale would kill him..as it is the Bible says in Matthew 12 40 for three whole days and nights...the lord...that's Yahweh ..had arranged for ",the whale" to swallow Jonah... yahweh told Jonah he had to go to Nineveh for him in the submarine..Jonah was frightened and ran away. We know yahweh called himself lord as he did when demanding the first born baby and animal to be burnt to show I am the lord in Isiah
Araimac Bible says Jehovah but these are all terms used by the Bible instead of the correct term elohim...
When the whale spat him out he was near Nineveh. What a coincidence. Also whales have very small throats and could only swallow small fish like herring!
You need also consider if as you are going to say extraordinary measures were taken by the creator of trillions upon trillions of universes..world's without end...to carry out this endeavour instead of him using the submarines we know the aliens had and are shown on walls in Egypt along with helicopters etc..but didn't take those steps to stop Yahweh burning the abdomen fats of women and babies as stated in the Torah..or the millions of humans he nuked in soddam and Gomorrah and sumeria.. or the babies satanically sacrificed for their adrenachrome..I would be thrilled to hear it.
Helicopters also. In one of the more southern temples. It was "plastered" over then restored a bit. Also we all have so much "junk DNA" that the scientists have no idea where it came from, or even what it is.
You have any links to some of the history stuff you mentioned? About the ET's? I love reading about this stuff :D. And in my opinion the Sumerians ( oldest writings) Have the more accurate accounts of "truth" I have seen yet.
Edit: Also I found it super fucking odd ISIS was blowing up ancient sites. Ancient histories. I wonder who was pulling those strings. And gave those orderes. After they pillaged all the artifacts of coarse.
I am not sure about Billy Carson but he has researchers working for him. He has a lot of information on the sumerian tablets and measurements of pyramids etc ..4bktv. he is similar to Gaia which I stay clear of mainly....blue chickens etc.
Mauro biglino official channel youtube English subtitles was interlinear translator for the Vatican publishers until he uncovered too much evidence of aliens. He is dead straight.cci bought his book naked bible
5th element Paul Wallis was an arch bishop. He has good links but like a lot of churchy people want to keep hold of jesus...son of Yahweh and an alien....easy living ..men in frocks.
Michael tellinger
Richard d hall UK researcher does space stuff too. Lies of NASA
Have a look at my comments I put links on for people
He also did a long video on human origins and our aquatic creators the nummo..YouTube ...wasn't really our creators ..they did what the elohim/,annanuki did ..they modified us.
I had already known about the dogon tribe..they originally lived in Egypt known as kem back then. The nummo told them a lot of history and the planets etc. They came from Sirius b a dwarf star science didn't even know about never mind all the other astronomical info they knew a long time back.
It's good to know there are aliens who don't pretend to be gods and want to enslave us but empower us.
A lot of talk right now about the orbs going in and out of our oceans..we only have explored 5% of all the oceans..but spent trillions on space. The military have underwater bases and live down there so I am very sure aliens are there too..may have been there a very long time. Yahweh had submarines ...
Graham Hancock and Robert Sepehr anthropologist are also mines of information.
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The most important thing a person will ever do is seek and find God. A murderer, rapist, etc. can understand what they did is wrong and seek forgiveness and seek salvation. An unbeliever (for instance, someone solidly convinced there is no God) is not even seeking, but actively refusing God's grace gift of salvation and a relationship with Him.)
You're here on a Q board. Think of the normies who simply refuse to see the truth. Who refuse, in the face of every proof, every piece of data, to believe. And that probably frustrates you and you wonder, how can they do this? How can they be so blind. Not just blind even, but blind by choice.
True faith leads to truth. And Learning the truth leads to stronger faith. Faith must come first though. You are putting things on your timeline. Saying everyone should see the truth simply because it's there out in open. Yet only God decides when we truly awaken to the truth. Not ourselves or other men. When we try to do that we are once again playing God.
Think of moses and Aaron. They were literally speaking for God to pharaoh and it still hardened his heart. God knew this would happen though because he knows us on the most deepest intimate level.
Careful about labeling other peoples faith. U called it normie. Truly though we are all exactly where God wants us at this given time. He knew this life even before we were born
Haha, what makes you think they don't seek the truth? It's through seeking that we find. We aren't born believers. We seek, find, and become believers.
It seems evident now that you were already firmly entrenched in your own belief system before you asked the question, thereby just wasting people's time.
Many think they are seeking the truth, but what they are really seeking is something that appeals to them, that strokes their ego or tickles their ear and makes them feel special, important. It's not the truth they're seeking, it's something else. And they will always find it. Because there is always some charlatan working in the name of the evil one who will find them.
Well then you're not a Christian. God isn't just a loving God. It seems you subscribe to the modern corrupt "feel good Christianity". Stop following false prophets. God destroyed entire nations because of their sin and unbelief. Sodom and Gomorra anyone? Or how about the endless nations Ancient Israel razed to the ground when they were conquering the land that would eventually become Israel? God ordered them to kill every man, woman, and child and to leave no survivors.
Or how about the Flood? A historical event that we find more and more evidence of every single day. God literally killed every single living being but Noah, his family, and the animals on the ARK.
Why should God forgive someone who doesn't respect of believe in him and Jesus? Would YOU forgive someone that denies your very existence?
Also, you're incredibly wrong and misguided. Their is no "becoming a Christian after death." If you die without being saved that it. You're going to hell, end of story. You get one life and one chance. What you do determines your afterlife. And there's only a single choice that matters. Acceptance of Jesus Christ.
God won't forgive a random murderer, rapist, etc. Those same people MUST feel a real, legitimate conviction and turn from their wicked ways while accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Just like everyone else.
If you don't want to accept these facts, then it's between you and God, but you're wrong in everything you believe in and you're sending yourself to Hell for allowing yourself to be deceived by the morally righteous "feel good" false prophets you're adhering to instead of the true word of God.
By god I take it you mean Yahweh the alien the pope issued an edict saying to the faithful not to mention him in litany or prayers as he is not Christian and neither is his only begotten son an alien..but apparently they are not ready to tell that truth.
Noah was saved because he was a hybrid ..you know ..mated with the daughters of men..the aliens were so animal like and lusted after women with long hair that women wear advised to hide their hair and a girl has just been killed in Iran for disobeying that order. When are we going to be free of these aliens and the Ashkenazi Jews who carry on their finance scheme Yahweh set up so Jews wld dominate. Deuteronomy chp 15 you will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.
Rothschild banking??? Russia threw them out..now they are fighting to crush them like they did Saddam and Gaddafi and Syria still fighting them.
Yahweh took a census of his people.he was not omnipotent omnipresent God...he got men to count and pay a random of half a shekel ie 10 grams of silver otherwise a scourge would hit them..exodus chp 30
Verse 35 chp 20 ezekiel. Give me your firstborns and I will burn them for you....
Go and read it and stop the crap about a loving God in the Bible
See, right there you set your intention. You refused to believe. Why? Perhaps it seemed distasteful to you for some reason. (You didn't specify what things you refused to believe.) But that begs the question, who are you? Are you God? Do you have the 40,000 foot view that God has? Do you know and understand the ways and whys and wherefores of God? No, obviously not. But without understanding any of it, you decided to refuse to believe it. That's some ego.
What is is you do believe, if I may ask? (I'm guessing some sort of new age thing.)
The wages of sin is death. During the old Testament days, forgiveness of sin required a blood sacrifice. The Jewish would have to sacrifice their most pristine sheep, goat etc.
God sent us Jesus Christ, the most pristine human that has ever lived. He was not blemished by sin. He sacrificed himself for us. His blood covers all of our sin as long as we repent of our sins and accept him as our Lord and Savior.
The Old Testament is as factual as the new Testament. You can refuse to accept it, God has given you freewill. But your unbelief doesn't change the nature of God. Don't measure God by man's standards. He is a righteous and just God. We have all earned death and death is what we will all receive unless we accept the gift God has given us and that again, is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There are no works that you and I can do to save ourselves.
I'm no expert, just a lifelong seeker, and I'll tell you what I've come to understand. Imagine we are all plugged into God. He doesn't need to see what we do, he knows what's in our hearts. We have the free will to seek out and understand our place with him and his plans for us on earth. What if it isn't God rejecting unbelievers, but unbelievers rejecting God that leads to their demise. God will not cut his cord with his children, it's his children who choose to cut their cord with him. Without it, their souls will not find their way back to him. Unless of course they call out to him here on earth, seeking to find him, and if they do, he will restore what they cut off.
What I've learned about the mind over the years is that it plays a much bigger role in all of reality than we may have ever imagined. Those who chose to live in misery are creating their own hell themselves. Not just here on earth, but it will follow them afterwards. We are lost souls without God, like a home built without a foundation. In the end, earth is a school, and a temporary home for the souls of humans. Our real home is with God, beyond the plane of earth. Those of us who maintain our connection to him, will find our way back to him after our souls leave earth. Anyone who seeks him, will find him.
Then continue being deceived and send yourself to hell. By denying literally half the Bible, you're ignoring half of God's history. You're ignorance of literally anything involving Christianity is showing, and I feel sorry for you in all honesty. You're not much different from the leftist point of view on religion at this point.
"Everyone should be accepted just because". Such a childish point of view is just that. Childish. It has little to no base in reality, and if that's truly what you believe in then the devil is laughing his evil butt off while whispering sweet nothings into your ear. Knowing you're going to eat all that crap up because you have to take the moral high ground and deny God's truth because "it doesn't feel good".
I pity you, and I'll pray for you. But people like you are part of the problem with the world, and I don't respect you and your ilk in the least bit.
May God have mercy on you and help you realize the error of your ways.
I'm not sure what your intentions were behind this post if you are so closed to the Lord but I know God can use this for good. I pray that someone on this board scrolls through this thread and feels an awakening in their spirit to seek the Word of God.
Thanks for proving my point, though that also proves your even more ignorant than I thought since you're on a Q board. And Q is OBVIOUSLY a Christian movement at it's base. Anyone whose ever read the drops and sees that Q is constantly dropping Christian themes, tones, and just outright truths can see that.
I won't immediately call you a troll or shill, but don't be surprised when other's do so.
So Buddhist Japanese people cant be in the Q movement??? How about like Shaolin Monks? Or like Jews? Get your head out of your asses. The great awakening is a UNIVERSAL event. Not subjected to only White Christians.
All faith and no works. Salvation is solely on faith. You make it to heaven by faith alone in Christ alone. Your works will come naturally through your faith as evidence of your new nature. The fruit you produce comes naturally from your faith. The changing of your heart will naturally lead you to living a God centered life. You can’t just perform works and expect to gain faith. Someone who lives the best mortally sound life with no faith in Christ is just as dead as a satan worshiper. Someone with faith in Christ who struggles with their sin nature is saved and made clean through Christ. Hopefully that makes sense. Both works and faith are active but only faith will make you righteous and holy before God
This is simply not true. It is a very common misconception by today’s modern-day Christian. Works ALONE cannot guarantee that you get into heaven. And FAITH alone cannot guarantee that you get into heaven. It is the combination of BOTH that assure your entrance to heaven.
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“So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
James 2:17 ESV
The watering down of true Biblical teaching by today’s pastors, and the subsequent false spreading of “faith alone is needed for heaven” is hurting a tremendous amount of Christians.
Without recognizing that faith AND righteous living are required to gain eternal life, many “faith only” Christians will be left holding the bag when Jesus returns.
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““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
Matthew 7:21 ESV
Works are evidence of your faith. That is between you and Christ alone when you are judged. Only he knows what is a work because of faith and a work without faith. If all focus is poured into faith works come naturally. Doing a work just to do it doesn’t prove anyone’s faith. There is a difference between me giving my time to help someone because I love Christ and me doing a work so someone can see how righteous I am. That is a fine line to walk. Also if someone on their death bed receives Christ and then dies immediately do they not become a member of Gods family and go to heaven, having done no works? I believe they do because it’s faith in Christ that cleanses you not your works you did. Works are for rewards in heaven. Each individual will know if they are changed and truly believe. So there is no point in focusing on someone else’s works they do or don’t do because again that is between that person and Christ, no one else.
The New Testament is full of commands from God. These are the righteous acts that James talks about when saying faith without works is dead.
It’s very easy & dangerous for the modern Christian to say “all I need is faith.”
Is that all we need? Just faith alone? This line of thinking gets a lot of new Christians thinkkkng that they can continue living their old life without repercussions because they now believe in Christ. I’m sure you know many of them. The ones that drink in excess, use foul language, etc.
Faith alone does not guarantee you a ticket to heaven. Neither do works alone. BOTH are needed in conjunction. And if you’re sinning, full repentance is required.
If you really study the Bible you will see that it is not only about faith. Go through James. It’ll open your eyes.
I believe you need to be born again and works would be evidence of that. But I never go out saying I need to go do works. I need strong faith in Christ and he will change my heart. Works come naturally from that. I think it’s equally dangerous to focus too much on works and it leaves Christians thinking if they follow a moral code and check the works boxes off they are saved. In actuality they are just going through the motions and unbelievers can pick up on that. I think we are hitting the same area of balance but from different sides.
Yes these are all very good and true points. But if James didn’t write about faith without works being dead then it wouldn’t be a real problem right?
Wouldn’t you agree that our nation and world is suffering from a lot of luke-warm Christians? The very same type of Christian God hates more then atheists themselves? The ones that claim Jesus as their savior, attend church on Sunday, send their kids to Christian school yet drink uncontrollably, commit one affair after the other, swear like sailors, etc.
There are far too many new Christians who get led astray with the narrow-minded idea that salvation is the only step to heaven. Salvation doesn’t guarantee we reach heaven. Neither does good works. They (salvation & good works) need to be COMBINED in order for us to receive the assurance of heaven. And by good works I’m talking about obeying all the New Testament commands.
If you actually study the New Testament and listen to expository preachers such as R. C. Sproul, Vodey Bauchom, or John MacArthur you’ll realize how many commands God gave us in the new covenant; many of which the salvation-only crowd preaches incorrectly and leads astray. Righteousness (good works after salvation) is a very difficult and purposeful journey after salvation which sanctifies one’s soul. Many Christians think John 3:16 is all that is needed and they are sorely mistaken.
As Jesus says “Many will call out His name and He will not know them.”
That's a keen observation from Shakespeare (Friar Lawrence, Romeo & Juliet). We can't always judge what is right with our eyes because we all have filters from our experience and from how we process it in our thinking. Jesus acknowledged the goodness of Jewish Law, but He rebuked the Pharisees for being oppressive in their application of it. Their filter was a rigid legalistic approach the Lord said was of Satan. It was a thing that could make them look good on the outside but did nothing to convert their hearts. They thought they were pleasing God with their careful scripture-based approach, but they proved by their actions who it was they were actually serving.
It is easy to see that lying to protect someone whom law enforcement is unjustly persecuting proves love better than telling the truth about where that they hiding just because telling the truth is always the right thing to do. Disobeying an unjust law that was made to kill you proves wisdom better than going obediently to your death because obeying the law is always right. Would God get upset about either of those things? I don't think so.
I have long been of the opinion that feelings can be deceptive. Some of the things we count for love aren't love at all. The proof of love, just like the proof of faith, is in what you do, and sometimes that comes by a choice to be kind to people who are not being kind to you. But this doesn't mean that justice shouldn't be done. Seeking justice for the abused is also love, as is defending them and rescuing them from their abusers. People are responsible for their choices, and justice brings consequences for bad ones. There is room for mercy, but denying justice by removing consequences completely, as the liberals seek to do, isn't love to the ones who were wronged, and it only encourages evil to continue. Upholding justice is love to all neighbors who would be oppressed by crime if justice fails.
According to Jeremiah 31:31-34, the new covenant God would make with His people through Jesus would change the focus of how people obeyed God. In the new covenant, the source of obedience became internal, a matter of conscience. His laws were put into our minds and our hearts, and, as Paul observed, that can work out to be different for different people. (i.e. What is permissible to the conscience of one might not be permissible to the conscience of another.) So I would say that parsing this thing should begin there. What does your conscience say about what you intend to do? Does it afflict you, or is there peace? (Keeping in mind that conscience for you does not need to be made into law for everybody else.)
In any case, the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12) always points the way to love. What would you want someone to do for you in a particular situation? Whatever the answer is, that is the thing you should do. That would be love, and love fulfills the moral law without having to think about it. (Rom.13:10)
It's always funny (and sad) when atheists try to tell others what God's Word says. God's Word is very clear - some people's interpretation not so much. I urge people to read a King James Bible for themselves rather than listen to someone whose mission is to cast doubt and confusion on what it is to be "saved". The plan of salvation is very clear as is faith and works, sin and God's commandments (both Old and New Testament commandments).
I do not engage in debates with avowed atheists - they have made their choice and they can be accountable for it. I am interested in reaching those that believe that God created everything we see but just haven't bothered to ACCEPT Jesus as their personal Savior. I like to share the Good News with them that Jesus Christ is the Son of God that He died for the sins of all mankind and that all they have to do is accept Him by faith to have an eternity in the Kingdom of God.
It is really quite simple but non-believers want to muddy the simplicity with a lot of theological mumbo-jumbo that really only seeks to create doubt, confusion and fear. God bless.
Faith - How can you expect Jesus to forgive, save you if you don't believe in him?
Works - depends on you. Do you help others to get praise and glory for yourself or do you help others anonymously because you really want to help them.
A true story about lying to save others - In my mom's ukrainian village was a devout family. They had prayer services and bible studies underground. Once a month a priest would come incognito to hear confessions and do a mass. Someone in the village was arrested by the communists and under torture told them about this family. Soldiers stormed the house. Keep in mind houses were 1 room only so no where really to hide. The woman said 'Look and see for yourself. Where could we hide anyone? Under the table?' The soldiers left in disgust and leaving threats. The priest WAS under the table the whole time.
You cannot become saved with works or lose your salvation with works… however, works are a sign of that salvation so always try to do the good thing even if it means to kill that pedo that tried to abuse your kid… God knows your faith, and that is truly what brings you salvation… live in the Word and He will always show you the right path.
You love your enemy, not what they do, because all are sinful and fallen including you. You do not love or approve what they do. That, you hate. But you do not remove them in your mind from the possibility of God's salvation. Even Killary Cunton can be saved if it is in God's will, and to deny Satan another soul is a good thing.
As Jesus was a hybrid alien and carried out the wishes o the elohim do you think you might be better obeying your conscience that was given us by the creator of all worlds all universes and galaxies and not the Elohm/god/lord/, Yahweh/annanuki in the bible?
When it talks of someone being righteous .i means in heir eyes .humans obeying their orders ..like kill every man woman and child spare no one burn their cities. . Millions were nuked at Sodom and gommarah in their incessant wars with other aliens to get their Territories. Sumeria was also nuke. Millions of humans killed
If you read the bible you will see that constantly . one of the books removed was called the wars of yahweh.
Yes now the pope issued a communication to church leaders bishops etc etc that Yahweh..(lord god)..was not to be referred to in prayers or litany as he wasn't Christian but leaving in his only begotten alien son.
Yes they added some Greek Hellenistic thought when they. wanted it be a one world government religion and left out 75 books including the apostles Peter account of jesus ..really not his name..was taken from he cross but allowed the replacing of the pagan god mithras to be retired as the redeemer the lamb of god born December died at Easter for our sins?? keep all he holy days and just change the name
Research the sixteen redeemers of the world online
Look at all the downvotes. This is supposed to be a research site/forum. yet all the shills downvoting. Makes me think people really are so biased that they cannot see past it. Christians are just like Lefties defending "woke-ism" which is their new religion. It's pretty fucking pathetic. When some simple searches can prove our points.
We are on a forum here now...discussing EVERYTHING the cabal has/wanted to do to us. It dates back to like Biblical times. Yet when we say "the cabal created Jesus to control you" We get downvotes. We get shit on. By other "researchers"
Really makes me wonder.....
Edit: For the record I am not against Religion of any kind.Or Religious people. Just stop pushing your literal nonsense at people who think critically. At people whom have looked outside what the "church" allows you to see.
I think it's because as a child they were taught this brainwashing and they have never used critical thinking to look at it.
Usually it's their parents belief too so it takes them out of their comfort mummy and daddy granny and grandad and jesus and god love you zone ..
Then too they have been promised if they say the words I accept Jesus as my saviour they get to sit at the right hand side of him and god..a free pass to live in heaven eternally for saying a few words.
This creates grey areas where man is deciding what is Good and what is bad based off how they perceive a limited understanding. What if God wanted those million people dead. Would u still go against his will? Doesnt that elevate u to being God.
The Creator and pure goodness are the same thing. Evil cannot come from the Creator.>>>>I'm not sure what your getting at with this based off our two comments above. We both agree on this. Was it an agreement statement or are u making a counter point to my thoughts. Sorry for confusion.
As for disasters, I don't know. it seems unjust but if the Creator ordained it there must be a good reason. Viewing the Creator like a human ruler with unlimited power isn't the right way to do it in my opinion.>>>what powers does God not posses. Doesnt his will always happen. I'm not viewing him as a human ruler because human rulers dont truly have any power. Only what God gives to them. God has all the power even when we try to take it for ourselves. What I'm getting at is humans can only think in limited terms. We say saving a life is always the right thing, but throughout the bible God has allowed many to perish but it's always part of something greater. So justifying a lie because it saves a life is taking Gods will into our hands. Couldnt God still save those people and us tell the truth. Doesnt he posses that power. The bible says we cant add or subtract even a second from our lives. So could we really do that for others.
What can I do, in my small life, that would serve HIM? Did I act with kindness in all of my interactions, did I apply Patience, Mercy, Charity, for HIS Glory, or mine? DId I spend time in prayer, with our Emmanuel, our wonderful counselor? Do I withhold charity, say, in the form of donating to the food bank in our town, because it is manned by people who do not agree with my social outlooks, or do I disregard that because Christ told me in the Gospels to offer food and drink to the least of these? Surely the Bible must never be withheld from criminals, as the Lord God Jesus hung on the cross with criminals, and comforted them by telling them they will be in Paradise with them, because of their Faith. My life and how I lead it is between me and my Creator, not you, or "them", or any court here on Earth. I have to base my life on my reality, not what I read here, or there, that has anything to do with politics. I was such a judgemental angry person before I was healed in my spirit by Jesus Christ. I do not think I can love as HE loves me, I am so imperfect, but I can ask him every day to help me do this. There will be a reckoning someday for all sinners, as it is written in the scriptures. I try to live my life with that awareness. In my own family, there are good people who do not believe, I pray for them first, that somehow Jesus can come to them, I ask him to show himself to sinners, I pray for my enemies to come to the light, when it is impossible for me to love them as I have been commanded to.
Were these people born evil. Can evil create. Loving your enemies just means u see the creator within all no matter how evil the person has chosen to become. U don't love there sin but you love the fact that God created even them.
Lying is always a sin. Doesnt mean God cant turn that sin into something for the greater good. God already knows what we are gonna do before we will do it. He is weaving a giant tapestry with all our sin and love. Praise the Lord
We were all born sinners. Some of us chose evil, some of us chose good, some us chose Jesus. We are all sinners though.
See the problem here is you're thinking in absolutist terms. Of which there are a few legitimate points that Christians must adhere to without compromise, but for the most part, there's a bit of leeway BECAUSE we're Christians.
For example, you mentioned the whole "love your enemies" debacle most people tend to use to degrade Christians and call us hypocrites. Yes, God does tell us to love our enemies, but he also tells us to hate their sin. You can hate someone's actions and still be a Christian.
God and Jesus can forgive ANY sin. Forgiveness is not up to us, it's a personal matter between every individual and Jesus Christ.
God also knows we're imperfect beings. Even when he lays out rules for us, he knows that we won't be able to stand up to them most of the time. That's why Jesus being your Lord and Savior is so important. Accepting Jesus isn't some kind of "get out of jail free" card. If you're truly a Christian then you will know what you're doing is wrong, or you shouldn't feel that way. Even if you can't help it.
But that's the point. We're imperfect and can't help ourselves at times. Addiction, hate towards someone evil, anger and frustration at circumstances beyond our control, etc. All are technically sins, but God is more than willing to forgive them over and over. So long as you know you're in the wrong and ask for forgiveness, and try to better yourself, or ask God to help you better yourself.
As for the other part of your question. Faith above works. It's that simple. It may make some people mad, but I've got a bit of a reputation for not caring and saying the blunt truth even if it angers people and makes them butthurt.
Faith above works. You can be the biggest saint, the nicest person, give away every penny you ever make to the poor and hungry, live in poverty to provide for children in need, etc. etc. and still go to hell if you're not saved and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Good people can, and do, go to hell. The path that leads to Heaven is narrow after all. There's literally one way into Heaven. Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. All the good works in the world can't change that fact.
That's why I harp about the queers and other forms of mainstream sin so often. Yeah, queers can be good people, and have their morals mostly align with ours. But they're still going to hell as they are. (Plus open acceptance of homosexuality is historically proven to lead to societal degeneration and open acceptance of deviant sexual acts. Hence our current sexually deviant and sex obsessed society.)
Hell wasn't added to the Bible until 1600...the concept didn't exist before but the pope brought it in and during the inquisitions millions died. Jews who actually wrote the old testament as a history of what happened to them when the aliens invaded and knew that the man now called jesus was a hybrid of the invaders and was born for the role he played ...they knew he was not a God or the son of God and so do the Muslims..they know he was a man too. The inquisitions were to wipe out the unbelievers who knew they were aliens not fallen angels and Yahweh was a psychopathic genocidal killer butchering millions not the loving God they tried to portray...nuking Sodom and Gomorrah and sparing noah as he was a hybrid alien.
The rapture was added in 1835 as a footnote and when pastors saw the reaction and consequent money pouring in it as added as canonical text.
The naivety of anyone believing that saying I accept Jesus.christ who never existed the man who was on the cross for a few hours was taken down alive as promised by the elohim /Yahweh as part of the religion they were going to make.
Didn't an angel talk to Mohammad? Not an angel..an alien ..how many billions have died cos that religion doesn't see this Jesus Christ as their saviour..depopulate depopulate depopulate. Crusades crusades crusades
The church wanted a one world religion then with everyone following the satanic crap they were peddling. And still are
Read the 75 books removed to make this story believable to anyone naive enough not to use critical thinking.
One of them was called the wars of yahweh...killing us..millions and.millions of us.
How many Jewish pope's do you think there has been?
Look at Martin Luther ..look at his history and the two pope's he was working with the Medicis... Bankers like his family...what did he do? He introduced usury which was forbidden to Catholics...
Rothschilds central banks..Russia threw them out..and here we are in a war..gadaffi was arranging an African gold system and leaving the petro dollar the Ashkenazi Jews Rothschild Ponzi scheme is tied to..what happened?
You can go online..download the clay cuniform tablets and read for yourself what they say from thousands of years ago about the aliens .
Is this why they won't confirm the alien presence the cloning they did the craft they had that NASA copied and is in ezikiel and the Mahabharata? Cos people might start to actually think?
Do you really believe Jonah survived the digestive juices never mind anything else of a whale..it was a submarine..the accounts in the Bible itself say Jonah could see the depths and there was a pearl that lit the inside of the whale. For pity's sake!!! There are drawings of submarines and aircraft on the pyramid walls
Not what they say in the oh so correct and truthful bible..he was vomited out ..he was sent to Nineveh by yahweh and he ran away as he did not want to go in the submarine. He was found and forced to get in it.
No do try...it's not me steeped in mythology..don't project. Things have to work within the universal laws of the universe....even the digestive juices of the whale would kill him..as it is the Bible says in Matthew 12 40 for three whole days and nights...the lord...that's Yahweh ..had arranged for ",the whale" to swallow Jonah... yahweh told Jonah he had to go to Nineveh for him in the submarine..Jonah was frightened and ran away. We know yahweh called himself lord as he did when demanding the first born baby and animal to be burnt to show I am the lord in Isiah
Araimac Bible says Jehovah but these are all terms used by the Bible instead of the correct term elohim...
When the whale spat him out he was near Nineveh. What a coincidence. Also whales have very small throats and could only swallow small fish like herring!
You need also consider if as you are going to say extraordinary measures were taken by the creator of trillions upon trillions of universes..world's without end...to carry out this endeavour instead of him using the submarines we know the aliens had and are shown on walls in Egypt along with helicopters etc..but didn't take those steps to stop Yahweh burning the abdomen fats of women and babies as stated in the Torah..or the millions of humans he nuked in soddam and Gomorrah and sumeria.. or the babies satanically sacrificed for their adrenachrome..I would be thrilled to hear it.
I won't hold my breath however.
Helicopters also. In one of the more southern temples. It was "plastered" over then restored a bit. Also we all have so much "junk DNA" that the scientists have no idea where it came from, or even what it is.
You have any links to some of the history stuff you mentioned? About the ET's? I love reading about this stuff :D. And in my opinion the Sumerians ( oldest writings) Have the more accurate accounts of "truth" I have seen yet.
Edit: Also I found it super fucking odd ISIS was blowing up ancient sites. Ancient histories. I wonder who was pulling those strings. And gave those orderes. After they pillaged all the artifacts of coarse.
I am not sure about Billy Carson but he has researchers working for him. He has a lot of information on the sumerian tablets and measurements of pyramids etc ..4bktv. he is similar to Gaia which I stay clear of mainly....blue chickens etc.
Mauro biglino official channel youtube English subtitles was interlinear translator for the Vatican publishers until he uncovered too much evidence of aliens. He is dead straight.cci bought his book naked bible
5th element Paul Wallis was an arch bishop. He has good links but like a lot of churchy people want to keep hold of jesus...son of Yahweh and an alien....easy living ..men in frocks.
Michael tellinger
Richard d hall UK researcher does space stuff too. Lies of NASA
Have a look at my comments I put links on for people
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Thanks a bunch!
https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/this-colony-earth
He also did a long video on human origins and our aquatic creators the nummo..YouTube ...wasn't really our creators ..they did what the elohim/,annanuki did ..they modified us.
I had already known about the dogon tribe..they originally lived in Egypt known as kem back then. The nummo told them a lot of history and the planets etc. They came from Sirius b a dwarf star science didn't even know about never mind all the other astronomical info they knew a long time back.
It's good to know there are aliens who don't pretend to be gods and want to enslave us but empower us.
A lot of talk right now about the orbs going in and out of our oceans..we only have explored 5% of all the oceans..but spent trillions on space. The military have underwater bases and live down there so I am very sure aliens are there too..may have been there a very long time. Yahweh had submarines ...
Graham Hancock and Robert Sepehr anthropologist are also mines of information. .
The most important thing a person will ever do is seek and find God. A murderer, rapist, etc. can understand what they did is wrong and seek forgiveness and seek salvation. An unbeliever (for instance, someone solidly convinced there is no God) is not even seeking, but actively refusing God's grace gift of salvation and a relationship with Him.)
You're here on a Q board. Think of the normies who simply refuse to see the truth. Who refuse, in the face of every proof, every piece of data, to believe. And that probably frustrates you and you wonder, how can they do this? How can they be so blind. Not just blind even, but blind by choice.
That is the sin of unbelief.
True faith leads to truth. And Learning the truth leads to stronger faith. Faith must come first though. You are putting things on your timeline. Saying everyone should see the truth simply because it's there out in open. Yet only God decides when we truly awaken to the truth. Not ourselves or other men. When we try to do that we are once again playing God. Think of moses and Aaron. They were literally speaking for God to pharaoh and it still hardened his heart. God knew this would happen though because he knows us on the most deepest intimate level.
Careful about labeling other peoples faith. U called it normie. Truly though we are all exactly where God wants us at this given time. He knew this life even before we were born
The only true choice we have is to surrender to God (faith)
You mentioned spiritual judgment. Who is judging you?
Haha, what makes you think they don't seek the truth? It's through seeking that we find. We aren't born believers. We seek, find, and become believers.
It seems evident now that you were already firmly entrenched in your own belief system before you asked the question, thereby just wasting people's time.
Many think they are seeking the truth, but what they are really seeking is something that appeals to them, that strokes their ego or tickles their ear and makes them feel special, important. It's not the truth they're seeking, it's something else. And they will always find it. Because there is always some charlatan working in the name of the evil one who will find them.
Awe, seems like I have found your intent, to sow seeds of division.
Why do you say that they are wrong? What truth do you possess that gives you the authority to claim all are wrong?
Well then you're not a Christian. God isn't just a loving God. It seems you subscribe to the modern corrupt "feel good Christianity". Stop following false prophets. God destroyed entire nations because of their sin and unbelief. Sodom and Gomorra anyone? Or how about the endless nations Ancient Israel razed to the ground when they were conquering the land that would eventually become Israel? God ordered them to kill every man, woman, and child and to leave no survivors.
Or how about the Flood? A historical event that we find more and more evidence of every single day. God literally killed every single living being but Noah, his family, and the animals on the ARK.
Why should God forgive someone who doesn't respect of believe in him and Jesus? Would YOU forgive someone that denies your very existence?
Also, you're incredibly wrong and misguided. Their is no "becoming a Christian after death." If you die without being saved that it. You're going to hell, end of story. You get one life and one chance. What you do determines your afterlife. And there's only a single choice that matters. Acceptance of Jesus Christ.
God won't forgive a random murderer, rapist, etc. Those same people MUST feel a real, legitimate conviction and turn from their wicked ways while accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Just like everyone else.
If you don't want to accept these facts, then it's between you and God, but you're wrong in everything you believe in and you're sending yourself to Hell for allowing yourself to be deceived by the morally righteous "feel good" false prophets you're adhering to instead of the true word of God.
By god I take it you mean Yahweh the alien the pope issued an edict saying to the faithful not to mention him in litany or prayers as he is not Christian and neither is his only begotten son an alien..but apparently they are not ready to tell that truth.
Noah was saved because he was a hybrid ..you know ..mated with the daughters of men..the aliens were so animal like and lusted after women with long hair that women wear advised to hide their hair and a girl has just been killed in Iran for disobeying that order. When are we going to be free of these aliens and the Ashkenazi Jews who carry on their finance scheme Yahweh set up so Jews wld dominate. Deuteronomy chp 15 you will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.
Rothschild banking??? Russia threw them out..now they are fighting to crush them like they did Saddam and Gaddafi and Syria still fighting them.
Yahweh took a census of his people.he was not omnipotent omnipresent God...he got men to count and pay a random of half a shekel ie 10 grams of silver otherwise a scourge would hit them..exodus chp 30
Verse 35 chp 20 ezekiel. Give me your firstborns and I will burn them for you....
Go and read it and stop the crap about a loving God in the Bible
See, right there you set your intention. You refused to believe. Why? Perhaps it seemed distasteful to you for some reason. (You didn't specify what things you refused to believe.) But that begs the question, who are you? Are you God? Do you have the 40,000 foot view that God has? Do you know and understand the ways and whys and wherefores of God? No, obviously not. But without understanding any of it, you decided to refuse to believe it. That's some ego.
What is is you do believe, if I may ask? (I'm guessing some sort of new age thing.)
The wages of sin is death. During the old Testament days, forgiveness of sin required a blood sacrifice. The Jewish would have to sacrifice their most pristine sheep, goat etc.
God sent us Jesus Christ, the most pristine human that has ever lived. He was not blemished by sin. He sacrificed himself for us. His blood covers all of our sin as long as we repent of our sins and accept him as our Lord and Savior.
The Old Testament is as factual as the new Testament. You can refuse to accept it, God has given you freewill. But your unbelief doesn't change the nature of God. Don't measure God by man's standards. He is a righteous and just God. We have all earned death and death is what we will all receive unless we accept the gift God has given us and that again, is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There are no works that you and I can do to save ourselves.
I'm no expert, just a lifelong seeker, and I'll tell you what I've come to understand. Imagine we are all plugged into God. He doesn't need to see what we do, he knows what's in our hearts. We have the free will to seek out and understand our place with him and his plans for us on earth. What if it isn't God rejecting unbelievers, but unbelievers rejecting God that leads to their demise. God will not cut his cord with his children, it's his children who choose to cut their cord with him. Without it, their souls will not find their way back to him. Unless of course they call out to him here on earth, seeking to find him, and if they do, he will restore what they cut off.
What I've learned about the mind over the years is that it plays a much bigger role in all of reality than we may have ever imagined. Those who chose to live in misery are creating their own hell themselves. Not just here on earth, but it will follow them afterwards. We are lost souls without God, like a home built without a foundation. In the end, earth is a school, and a temporary home for the souls of humans. Our real home is with God, beyond the plane of earth. Those of us who maintain our connection to him, will find our way back to him after our souls leave earth. Anyone who seeks him, will find him.
Then continue being deceived and send yourself to hell. By denying literally half the Bible, you're ignoring half of God's history. You're ignorance of literally anything involving Christianity is showing, and I feel sorry for you in all honesty. You're not much different from the leftist point of view on religion at this point.
"Everyone should be accepted just because". Such a childish point of view is just that. Childish. It has little to no base in reality, and if that's truly what you believe in then the devil is laughing his evil butt off while whispering sweet nothings into your ear. Knowing you're going to eat all that crap up because you have to take the moral high ground and deny God's truth because "it doesn't feel good".
I pity you, and I'll pray for you. But people like you are part of the problem with the world, and I don't respect you and your ilk in the least bit.
May God have mercy on you and help you realize the error of your ways.
I'm not sure what your intentions were behind this post if you are so closed to the Lord but I know God can use this for good. I pray that someone on this board scrolls through this thread and feels an awakening in their spirit to seek the Word of God.
Wow this was beautiful. Way to turn bad to good sis. Keep it up
Thanks for proving my point, though that also proves your even more ignorant than I thought since you're on a Q board. And Q is OBVIOUSLY a Christian movement at it's base. Anyone whose ever read the drops and sees that Q is constantly dropping Christian themes, tones, and just outright truths can see that.
I won't immediately call you a troll or shill, but don't be surprised when other's do so.
So Buddhist Japanese people cant be in the Q movement??? How about like Shaolin Monks? Or like Jews? Get your head out of your asses. The great awakening is a UNIVERSAL event. Not subjected to only White Christians.
What?
What is good?
It's because Judaist control.
All faith and no works. Salvation is solely on faith. You make it to heaven by faith alone in Christ alone. Your works will come naturally through your faith as evidence of your new nature. The fruit you produce comes naturally from your faith. The changing of your heart will naturally lead you to living a God centered life. You can’t just perform works and expect to gain faith. Someone who lives the best mortally sound life with no faith in Christ is just as dead as a satan worshiper. Someone with faith in Christ who struggles with their sin nature is saved and made clean through Christ. Hopefully that makes sense. Both works and faith are active but only faith will make you righteous and holy before God
This is simply not true. It is a very common misconception by today’s modern-day Christian. Works ALONE cannot guarantee that you get into heaven. And FAITH alone cannot guarantee that you get into heaven. It is the combination of BOTH that assure your entrance to heaven.
— “So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” James 2:17 ESV
The watering down of true Biblical teaching by today’s pastors, and the subsequent false spreading of “faith alone is needed for heaven” is hurting a tremendous amount of Christians.
Without recognizing that faith AND righteous living are required to gain eternal life, many “faith only” Christians will be left holding the bag when Jesus returns.
— ““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21 ESV
Works are evidence of your faith. That is between you and Christ alone when you are judged. Only he knows what is a work because of faith and a work without faith. If all focus is poured into faith works come naturally. Doing a work just to do it doesn’t prove anyone’s faith. There is a difference between me giving my time to help someone because I love Christ and me doing a work so someone can see how righteous I am. That is a fine line to walk. Also if someone on their death bed receives Christ and then dies immediately do they not become a member of Gods family and go to heaven, having done no works? I believe they do because it’s faith in Christ that cleanses you not your works you did. Works are for rewards in heaven. Each individual will know if they are changed and truly believe. So there is no point in focusing on someone else’s works they do or don’t do because again that is between that person and Christ, no one else.
The New Testament is full of commands from God. These are the righteous acts that James talks about when saying faith without works is dead.
It’s very easy & dangerous for the modern Christian to say “all I need is faith.”
Is that all we need? Just faith alone? This line of thinking gets a lot of new Christians thinkkkng that they can continue living their old life without repercussions because they now believe in Christ. I’m sure you know many of them. The ones that drink in excess, use foul language, etc.
Faith alone does not guarantee you a ticket to heaven. Neither do works alone. BOTH are needed in conjunction. And if you’re sinning, full repentance is required.
If you really study the Bible you will see that it is not only about faith. Go through James. It’ll open your eyes.
I believe you need to be born again and works would be evidence of that. But I never go out saying I need to go do works. I need strong faith in Christ and he will change my heart. Works come naturally from that. I think it’s equally dangerous to focus too much on works and it leaves Christians thinking if they follow a moral code and check the works boxes off they are saved. In actuality they are just going through the motions and unbelievers can pick up on that. I think we are hitting the same area of balance but from different sides.
Yes these are all very good and true points. But if James didn’t write about faith without works being dead then it wouldn’t be a real problem right?
Wouldn’t you agree that our nation and world is suffering from a lot of luke-warm Christians? The very same type of Christian God hates more then atheists themselves? The ones that claim Jesus as their savior, attend church on Sunday, send their kids to Christian school yet drink uncontrollably, commit one affair after the other, swear like sailors, etc.
There are far too many new Christians who get led astray with the narrow-minded idea that salvation is the only step to heaven. Salvation doesn’t guarantee we reach heaven. Neither does good works. They (salvation & good works) need to be COMBINED in order for us to receive the assurance of heaven. And by good works I’m talking about obeying all the New Testament commands.
If you actually study the New Testament and listen to expository preachers such as R. C. Sproul, Vodey Bauchom, or John MacArthur you’ll realize how many commands God gave us in the new covenant; many of which the salvation-only crowd preaches incorrectly and leads astray. Righteousness (good works after salvation) is a very difficult and purposeful journey after salvation which sanctifies one’s soul. Many Christians think John 3:16 is all that is needed and they are sorely mistaken.
As Jesus says “Many will call out His name and He will not know them.”
"Virtue itself turns vice, being misapplied;
And vice sometimes by action dignified."
That's a keen observation from Shakespeare (Friar Lawrence, Romeo & Juliet). We can't always judge what is right with our eyes because we all have filters from our experience and from how we process it in our thinking. Jesus acknowledged the goodness of Jewish Law, but He rebuked the Pharisees for being oppressive in their application of it. Their filter was a rigid legalistic approach the Lord said was of Satan. It was a thing that could make them look good on the outside but did nothing to convert their hearts. They thought they were pleasing God with their careful scripture-based approach, but they proved by their actions who it was they were actually serving.
It is easy to see that lying to protect someone whom law enforcement is unjustly persecuting proves love better than telling the truth about where that they hiding just because telling the truth is always the right thing to do. Disobeying an unjust law that was made to kill you proves wisdom better than going obediently to your death because obeying the law is always right. Would God get upset about either of those things? I don't think so.
I have long been of the opinion that feelings can be deceptive. Some of the things we count for love aren't love at all. The proof of love, just like the proof of faith, is in what you do, and sometimes that comes by a choice to be kind to people who are not being kind to you. But this doesn't mean that justice shouldn't be done. Seeking justice for the abused is also love, as is defending them and rescuing them from their abusers. People are responsible for their choices, and justice brings consequences for bad ones. There is room for mercy, but denying justice by removing consequences completely, as the liberals seek to do, isn't love to the ones who were wronged, and it only encourages evil to continue. Upholding justice is love to all neighbors who would be oppressed by crime if justice fails.
According to Jeremiah 31:31-34, the new covenant God would make with His people through Jesus would change the focus of how people obeyed God. In the new covenant, the source of obedience became internal, a matter of conscience. His laws were put into our minds and our hearts, and, as Paul observed, that can work out to be different for different people. (i.e. What is permissible to the conscience of one might not be permissible to the conscience of another.) So I would say that parsing this thing should begin there. What does your conscience say about what you intend to do? Does it afflict you, or is there peace? (Keeping in mind that conscience for you does not need to be made into law for everybody else.)
In any case, the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12) always points the way to love. What would you want someone to do for you in a particular situation? Whatever the answer is, that is the thing you should do. That would be love, and love fulfills the moral law without having to think about it. (Rom.13:10)
It's called tough love.
It's always funny (and sad) when atheists try to tell others what God's Word says. God's Word is very clear - some people's interpretation not so much. I urge people to read a King James Bible for themselves rather than listen to someone whose mission is to cast doubt and confusion on what it is to be "saved". The plan of salvation is very clear as is faith and works, sin and God's commandments (both Old and New Testament commandments).
I do not engage in debates with avowed atheists - they have made their choice and they can be accountable for it. I am interested in reaching those that believe that God created everything we see but just haven't bothered to ACCEPT Jesus as their personal Savior. I like to share the Good News with them that Jesus Christ is the Son of God that He died for the sins of all mankind and that all they have to do is accept Him by faith to have an eternity in the Kingdom of God.
It is really quite simple but non-believers want to muddy the simplicity with a lot of theological mumbo-jumbo that really only seeks to create doubt, confusion and fear. God bless.
Love your enemies - pray for them
Faith - How can you expect Jesus to forgive, save you if you don't believe in him?
Works - depends on you. Do you help others to get praise and glory for yourself or do you help others anonymously because you really want to help them.
A true story about lying to save others - In my mom's ukrainian village was a devout family. They had prayer services and bible studies underground. Once a month a priest would come incognito to hear confessions and do a mass. Someone in the village was arrested by the communists and under torture told them about this family. Soldiers stormed the house. Keep in mind houses were 1 room only so no where really to hide. The woman said 'Look and see for yourself. Where could we hide anyone? Under the table?' The soldiers left in disgust and leaving threats. The priest WAS under the table the whole time.
Faith
You cannot become saved with works or lose your salvation with works… however, works are a sign of that salvation so always try to do the good thing even if it means to kill that pedo that tried to abuse your kid… God knows your faith, and that is truly what brings you salvation… live in the Word and He will always show you the right path.
You love your enemy, not what they do, because all are sinful and fallen including you. You do not love or approve what they do. That, you hate. But you do not remove them in your mind from the possibility of God's salvation. Even Killary Cunton can be saved if it is in God's will, and to deny Satan another soul is a good thing.
Dogma above understanding, or understanding above dogma, and why are they mutually exclusive? Discuss
No it is not.
As Jesus was a hybrid alien and carried out the wishes o the elohim do you think you might be better obeying your conscience that was given us by the creator of all worlds all universes and galaxies and not the Elohm/god/lord/, Yahweh/annanuki in the bible?
When it talks of someone being righteous .i means in heir eyes .humans obeying their orders ..like kill every man woman and child spare no one burn their cities. . Millions were nuked at Sodom and gommarah in their incessant wars with other aliens to get their Territories. Sumeria was also nuke. Millions of humans killed
If you read the bible you will see that constantly . one of the books removed was called the wars of yahweh.
Yes now the pope issued a communication to church leaders bishops etc etc that Yahweh..(lord god)..was not to be referred to in prayers or litany as he wasn't Christian but leaving in his only begotten alien son.
Yes they added some Greek Hellenistic thought when they. wanted it be a one world government religion and left out 75 books including the apostles Peter account of jesus ..really not his name..was taken from he cross but allowed the replacing of the pagan god mithras to be retired as the redeemer the lamb of god born December died at Easter for our sins?? keep all he holy days and just change the name
Research the sixteen redeemers of the world online
This argument of yours makes Christ number ........17
(sorry, couldn't resist pointing that out.)
Well.i hope it bri NGS the Ashkenazi Jews down for what they have done with this scam .
Osiris-> Osiris-Dionysis-> Jesus Christo.
There are more ...mithras was the last one before jesus but his real name wasn't jesus the guy they wrapped the story around
Look at all the downvotes. This is supposed to be a research site/forum. yet all the shills downvoting. Makes me think people really are so biased that they cannot see past it. Christians are just like Lefties defending "woke-ism" which is their new religion. It's pretty fucking pathetic. When some simple searches can prove our points.
We are on a forum here now...discussing EVERYTHING the cabal has/wanted to do to us. It dates back to like Biblical times. Yet when we say "the cabal created Jesus to control you" We get downvotes. We get shit on. By other "researchers"
Really makes me wonder.....
Edit: For the record I am not against Religion of any kind.Or Religious people. Just stop pushing your literal nonsense at people who think critically. At people whom have looked outside what the "church" allows you to see.
I think it's because as a child they were taught this brainwashing and they have never used critical thinking to look at it.
Usually it's their parents belief too so it takes them out of their comfort mummy and daddy granny and grandad and jesus and god love you zone ..
Then too they have been promised if they say the words I accept Jesus as my saviour they get to sit at the right hand side of him and god..a free pass to live in heaven eternally for saying a few words.
The naivety would make you weep!!!
What is moral? How do you measure moral?
How do you determine what is moral and what is not?
This creates grey areas where man is deciding what is Good and what is bad based off how they perceive a limited understanding. What if God wanted those million people dead. Would u still go against his will? Doesnt that elevate u to being God.
The Creator and pure goodness are the same thing. Evil cannot come from the Creator.>>>>I'm not sure what your getting at with this based off our two comments above. We both agree on this. Was it an agreement statement or are u making a counter point to my thoughts. Sorry for confusion.
As for disasters, I don't know. it seems unjust but if the Creator ordained it there must be a good reason. Viewing the Creator like a human ruler with unlimited power isn't the right way to do it in my opinion.>>>what powers does God not posses. Doesnt his will always happen. I'm not viewing him as a human ruler because human rulers dont truly have any power. Only what God gives to them. God has all the power even when we try to take it for ourselves. What I'm getting at is humans can only think in limited terms. We say saving a life is always the right thing, but throughout the bible God has allowed many to perish but it's always part of something greater. So justifying a lie because it saves a life is taking Gods will into our hands. Couldnt God still save those people and us tell the truth. Doesnt he posses that power. The bible says we cant add or subtract even a second from our lives. So could we really do that for others.
Not sure who is downvoting u. Although I dont agree with u I do appreciate you being civil in your approach to me. So thank you
There is no sin Inovled with this saving so yes I would. Do u see the difference. One justifys sin for greater good and one is just an act of Good.