Learn Your History, Anons!!!!
He who forgets his past is liable to misunderstand the present and lose sight of the future!!!
The Turning Point
Pedes need to remember that before Q stepped in to emphasize the distinction between Q and the anons (Qdrop 4881, October 2020), 'qanon' was widely used by the anon community and in the Great Awakening.
As blackhats moved in to infiltrate and discredit / attack, it became important and necessary to draw the distinction between the propagandized narrative that the corporate and state-run media were creating around the label 'qanon' on one hand and the reality of Q and the anons on the other. Prior to that point, however, "qanon" was used in a totally legitimate way to describe the Q movement and the phenomena of the Q inspired community.
Origins of the expression: etymologically, "Qanon" came about because Q was "the Q anon". I first came to Q in December 2017 because someone asked or dropped something about "have you heard about this qanon?"
Now, many new pedes and also a few older ones have a powerful almost visceral reaction to 'qanon' label, but everyone should remember that it wasn't always this way.
A Bit Of History
Case in point (and evidence to the effect): https://qanon.pub
As far as I know, qanon.pub/ is the oldest, longest-standing qdrop aggregation website. (It's also still my primary go-to for checking my qdrops.)
In October of 2020, Q began emphasizing the distinction between Q and anons, and also the fake narratives the Deep State Propaganda were disseminating about Q and the Q movement. However, just 4 months prior, in June 2020, Q directly "Qed" a patriot on twitter June 2020. Notice the patriot's handle: "qanonwga"
https://archive.ph/20200625192402/https://twitter.com/QanonWga/status/1276229137603063809
Also in June, Q quotes (4514) an article from the Guardian from Feb 2019 about how much the expression "qanon" was being used globally:
The Guardian: "The scale this generates is disproportional enough to distort public perception: In 2018, ISD identified close to 30m uses of the word “QAnon” across Twitter, YouTube and forums such as Reddit and 4chan."
Q goes on to say "Numbers today dwarf past estimates. Handle w/ care. Q"
So, during 2018, at least 30 million instances of "qanon" arose on different social media and communication platforms. Who was doing that? NOT the deep state! No, it was us, the growing anon movement.
This alone proves the point that "qanon' is NOT originally a creation of the deep state, but is originally an expression that anons coined to identify ourselves, and our movement. It was synonymous with "the Great Awakening" in many ways. However, as the movement grew and the expression became too dangerous for the Deep State Cabal, they moved to hijack the expression and create all sorts of fake, phoney and false (h/t to Dave@X22) narratives around the movement using that term, in order to distort the original signal.
More Examples
Another anon on Twitter Q'ed by Q in 4478:
https://archive.ph/20200617232951/https://twitter.com/AskQanon/status/1273277453528641537
Handle = "Askqanon".
In April, Q Q'ed (3955) an anon with the handle @EverythingQAnon and who used the hashtags #QAnon and #WWG1WGA in their tweet!!!
https://archive.ph/20200418213428/https://twitter.com/EverythingQAnon/status/1250079186112446464
In December of 2019, Q+ even directly Q's a twitter anon called "Qanon Michelle", who tweets:
Michelle #QAnon dancing to a Q endorsed song!
https://archive.ph/20191219071917/https://twitter.com/QanonMichele/status/1207557095299567616
So, while the Deep State Propaganda has attempted to hijack the "qanon" label and craft narratives, the ONLY reason they did this in the first place was because the expression "qanon" was a core and integral part of the spread and growth of the Great Awakening worldwide!!!!
Take a wander through all the Q posts that mention "qanon". There are 64 in total, according to qanon.pub. https://qanon.pub/?q=qanon. Take note of just how many times the expression 'qanon' does NOT occur in the sense the deep state has come to use it, but how we used it, and Q used it.
We Knew
Anons KNEW the difference between Q and anons (der!) so we never had to worry about using "qanon" because "Qanon" meant Us; We, the Q movement; the Q patriots.
But because of the distortion the propaganda machine began to insert, Q needed to emphasize the distinction between Q (who makes drops) and anons (who report, comment, research, contribute, etc. on the basis of the leads indicated by Q drops).
Newcomers to the Great Awakening, particularly those post 11.3, simply did not have the life experience of using 'qanon' to grow and spread our movement and our work. Neither does the normie world know or understand the important difference between Q and the anons.
Speculation
It's interesting that Q emphasized this distinction between Q and anons at the very closing stages (??) of the Q drop operation. After 3 years of making Q drops, Q stepped in to emphasize the important distinction. Was this because they knew that they would not be making more drops after the 11.3 stage (meaning the period from 11.3 to 1.20)?
Was it necessary to draw that very important distinction at that point because Q themselves would not be around online to clarify and knock back the fake narratives being established by the DS Propaganda? Prior to that, we were all pretty much OK with using "Qanon", because we knew the distinction.
Why The Distinction?
Why did it became necessary to draw and clarify the distinction between Q and anons on one hand, and the broader Q movement on the other? One reason was that the movement grew centering on 'anons' at 8-chan, etc, and so deepstate agents could ALSO insert themselves as anons and spread distortions, giving rise to distorted Q narratives. Another reason is that some anons are less discerning and use best practice less than others. Because the qanon movement grew on the back of free-thinking, free-researching anons and patriots, it meant that some anons also get sidetracked into fake, flakey or unrelated narratives, ideas and theories that are NOT actually Q-derived.
Examples of such distortions of the Q signal include: "adrenochrome", which has never been directly referenced by Q at all. Another one is the "JFK Junior is Alive" narrative.
I remember when there was some construction work being done around Oprah Winfrey's house somewhere and anons spotted different accoutrements of construction work, including bright orange tape, in photos of her residence. Hot speculation went out that "Oprah's house is being raided and she's being arrested!!!"
Subsequently, this particular narrative was broadly disputed by other anons, but differences of opinion still exist, and you can be sure that somewhere out there, there are anons (not me, personally) who are convinced and believe wholeheartedly that Oprah was arrested, dragged away and replaced by a double.
Preserving the Signal, not the Noise
So, Oprah arrested? JFK alive? True? Not True? How the heck do I know? But the point is, such narratives are NOT Q-sourced. They are anon-sourced, and although many anon-sourced narratives are aligned with Q, many are also not. Those that are not Q-sourced are vulnerable to becoming excellent fodder for the DS Propaganda machine to create and promote distortions that can push people away from learning the truth about Q.
For the Q operation to remain effective, the signal of Q needs to be preserved as much as possible. It needs to be kept free as much as possible from distortions and noise. Noise is fine - we generate noise in broadcasting the signal. But to preserve signal integrity, we need to draw a clear distinction between the actual Q drops on one hand and the ideas, theories, conclusion, narratives and efforts of anons on the other.
But we should always remember that it was We, the Anons and Q patriots, who coined and then used "qanon" to spread the word. Not the Deep State.
This fact then raises an interesting question: Should we simply let the Deep State Propaganda claim our creation, and use it as their own thing to generate false narratives and mislead the people?
isn't this always what Evil does? Remember when "gay" meant happy, delighted, carefree? Remember when "patriotic" meant "God, country, honor", not "extremist" or "racist"?
Never forget that WE created the expression 'qanon' and that they hijacked it, stole it with their propaganda!!!
But because the battlefield has shifted from those days of 2017, 2018, and 2019, it is now important, if not critical, that we clarify as much as possible the distinction to as many people as we can:
"Q is one thing, anons are another, and anons do not always represent the message of Q."
"So always go to source and make source (aka Q) the defining factor. Study or read the Q drops for yourself. Listen to what anons say, but do not make the mistake of taking them all as gospel. Do due diligence, using your own thinking, and draw your own conclusions about what the qdrops mean, and which anons are on point and which are not."
This I believe is the primary reason why Q drew the line in the sand and stated, unequivocally:
There is 'Q'. 1
There are 'Anons'. 2
There is no 'Qanon'. 3
Media labeling as 'Qanon' is a method [deliberate] to combine [attach] 'Q' to comments _theories _suggestions _statements [and ACTIONS] made by 2.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CANNOT ATTACK THE INFORMATION [primary source 1]?
DO YOU ATTACK [& TYPECAST] THROUGH USE OF OTHERS?
Not all 'Anons' are authentic [injected].
Conclusions
We need to remember, or learn, or learn again, our history. Many who come on board from this day forward will rely on us to learn the truth of our history. Getting the truth helps them to find the right jumping-off points for understanding who Q is and how the movement got here.
"Handle with care" We are custodians of the signal. Let's preserve it.
So in response to the Question: "what is qanon?", do not answer that "qanon is a creation of the deep state". It's not true.
When you see "qanon" printed somewhere, or mentioned in a post, don't just rattle off: "What is this qanon?" "There is no Qanon!!"
Rather, remember that what was once ours was stolen and made into something it isn't. Tell people and each other:
"Qanon" is what we called ourselves and the Q movement in the early days, but the term has been hijacked by the Media and the Deep State players, and it now means something else, something that has been distorted by the Media.
So there is Q and there are anons. "Qanon" once was, but is no more. Now we simply call it: The Great Awakening.
(Edit: Please be sure to read @GQD_'s most excellent comment)
Addendum
On beliefs:
Naturally, different anons believe different things. That's the natural and important outcome of freedom of thought. But belief is also one of those elements that Q emphasized we need to be careful with. See the "Freedom of Thought" drops regarding that point.
On the Hijack model:
The hijacking model is rooted deep in our human history. According to scripture, in Lucifer hijacked humanity, God's creation, and has been living off of us vampire-like, feeding on our fear, pain, despair and sin ever since.
Christ used St. Peter and St. Paul to establish his church in order to spread the truth and the words of salvation, but Satan infiltrated and hijacked that work to produce the Vatican.
Tolkien described the hijack phenomenon when he wrote in his works how Melkor and Sauron took the Elves created by Iluvatar and distorted them to produce orcs and demons.
A good man or woman will always seek to preserve and protect the original purpose for which a good thing is created!!!
Love these kinds of posts. We should also remember that when the DS hijacked "Qanon", we also lost a very valuable search keyword. At some point soon we have to reclaim the term Qanon.
Its also well worth remembering that being "Awake" originated from the TD and people started using the variation "Woke", which was then commandeered and used in completely opposite way and the word was destroyed.
When they say "words have power" they are not just saying it figuratively. Its real, and eventually we need to reclaim all the power.
This is specifically why they did it.
This way, anytime a normie searches the term, they get 18 pages of clickbait hitpieces, distortions, disinformation, blatant lies, wild exaggerations, and batshit crazy conspiracy theories about evil monsters in red hats who want to live in a great country.
Can verify. Before that town hall, qanon was indeed a thing.
Infact my old truck has since been retired, but the two foot tall QANON I spray bombed on the tailgate remains.
I mean what about QANON.pub? We were all anons who were into Q.....Qanons. come on y'all. It's a stupid talking point, not the hill to die on.
Yup. I, too, can verify. I came to know Q in spring of 2018 through several conservative and conspiracy-related social media personalities mentioning "QAnon" and I didn't know what they were talking about. I remember searching up "QAnon" to learn more, and that's when I found Praying Medic and Neon Revolt, who explained the phenomenon well. I even bought Neon Revolt's e-book, Revolution Q: QAnon and the 2nd American Revolution. I occasionally try reminding people here about this, but this post does a million-times-better job of it.
Time for OG anons to gang up and tell the whipper snappers a thing or two!
signed, greybeard anon.
it's a terrific post, thank you for the lesson.
and g'mom anon! Tired of bein castigated for my ole Qanon t-shirt that was a special gift. Like I should throw it out or something!
Nooo but you're just greybeard! Not greybeard anon! lol
I believe you, i just don't understand why the drops say there's no qanon.
Check which drop that was. Whole lot of water went under the bridge before that post.
The qanon hashtag was a powerful means of connecting and finding like minded folk. We should take it back.
yeah they were all 2 year deltas over the past few weeks. messaging is important though. We gotta dispense the redpills and keep it all clear for the normies for now. Looks like that's what Q was getting at. seems like a small price to pay for you OG's.
Ultimately I don't think it matters either way. At this stage in the game I don't bother trying to turn normies on to Q, only provide the information Q based research leads to.
Until plus comes out and strait up owns it in an absolutely undeniable 2x4 upside the head wake up call way, we'll gain more hearts and minds talking about the great awakening than overtly discussing Q regardless. It isn't important that normies believe Q was right, it's important that they wake up.
Q was a stage in the op, a snapshot in time. Now we are in the now.
As an aside, I'm surprised no one mentioned the "we are Q" thing that popped up for a while.
Up until Q clarified the way we should use the terms, different anons just went with whatever felt right to them.
It just irks me when folks get on the high horse of there's never been _________. When I know damn well there was.
Hate to say it, but newfags who came late will never really understand what it was like watching everything unfold in real time. Getting upity about there's never been a thing called Qanon just proves to me you weren't awake to Q until very recently. Lots of folks migrated over after the doomers took over the Donald, and that's cool. That's cool. But when they start parrot squawking I find it hard to take them seriously.
I hear you and i understand what it's like being on the ground floor of something and watching it shift with an overburden of newbies. I don't doubt you or FractalizingIron or any of the OGs with how it came about.
You could very well be right about us being in late stages and beyond the importance of messaging. I just have seen way too often how moving away from what the drops actually say has gone wrong, regardless of the root intentions. I don't see why we should change now, this is a Q board and the contents of the drops should take precedence.
I like the content of your comments. I think the same message (hopefully) comes through in the post: preserving the integrity of the Q signal has to be the priority.
I hope no one is denying the content of the core post, that there is Q and there are anons. But it's relevant and important to actually read and understand the qdrop, and not get caught up in knee-jerk reactions. The core point was, as I understand it, that the Propaganda arm was attempting to mingle fake anon-derived content and associate it with Q. So distinguishing between Q and anons for the normie world not to mention newcomers became critical and important at that point.
That fact is not going away.
I don't know about reclaiming "qanon" at this point. I kind of think it will all work out as we go along.
They have hijacked "Qanon", which, as Bubble explains, deprived us and all the normies etc, of an excellent functioning search term.
We should be super clear. It's not about us. I do understand some of the frustration felt by older anons - Ethel's T-shirt comment above drives this home. But it's not about anyone's personal feelings. It's really about the mission. And this is why I prefaced the post with the statement:
I think at a minimum it should be fine for us to use the qanon expression amongst us, or at least, not go into fits by denying that qanon once existed or that it was indeed part of who we are. Such denial isn't grounded in fact. That's the real point.
The more all of us understand our history, whether your OG or newbie (thank God for the newbies!!!!), the better equipped we are to educate others on what the real deal is.
"There is only Q and there is only Anons" is only half the story. The other half is, for more than 2+ years, millions of patriots and anons around the world connected and networked and used "qanon" as a natural expression of who WE ARE.
Think of where the Great Awakening is today, and realize that there's a real history behind that.
A final point: evil ALWAYS seeks to create division and conflict where God originally designs for harmony and cooperation. The idea of teenagers rebelling against their elders is not natural nor original. It occurs only because there is a lot of distortion within the relationships, distortion caused by evil.
In the original framework, elders need the youngers, and younger need the elders. Elders often have the track record and the wisdom/experience (having made lots of the mistakes!), but the youngers have the passion, vision and energy.
So this issue about qanon should not be conceived as OG vs. Newbie. (My OG comment above was pretty much done tongue in cheek). It's about oK, how can we correctly understand the past, understand WHY Q needed to come out and clarify the distinction, and how we can now move ahead educating the public on what exactly is Q.
Your emphasis on the drops as the priority is spot on.
I'm glad some dipshit started spamming replies to an old comment I made here, because it brought me back to read this.
Well stated and on point. Good job anon.
Eloquent and accurate as always fren. thank you for every last byte.
for those who have read this far and aren't familiar with his work- when FractalizingIron posts it's worth reading twice, three times if you're going to reply. it will be a much better use of your time than flipping through a few more memes or another BS propaganda release.
jeez with the downvotes. he's quoting a drop on a q board. Like Fractal says, like the sidebar says- all of this is not about us.
And which comments here sound like they're coming from a brainwashed cult member!
This is essential reading for all. It's long but it's well worth the time.
Thanks OP.
Agreed. On all points.
Thank you, Anon.
Fact: No one in history has ever accused me of being too brief or not wordy enough!
Edit: kek. 2 downvotes. I guess it IS too long for some pedes.... derp.
I came in mid game, though didn't get heavily involved in discussions on the chans. I simply observed the links to those Chan drops found in the early days of TD.
I have told many individuals IRL that there is Q & there are Anons, but there is no Qanon. When they push, I have offered that it could be a term many Anons used before the clarification, though I really didn't know.
This cleared so many things up. Thank you very much!
Glad you are here, Bobbin.
You know the Great Awakening is most assuredly a God-driven operation. We can know this because there is not central leader telling people what to do and what to think, but someone sharing information and setting all of us free.
You engaged and handled things to the best of your thinking. This is ALL what the Great Awakening is about.
Love u brother. Just ignore u/369Q
Updoot for high energy post 👍
Heads up to the inevitable “Q never directly called himself qanon” that’s are coming, point them to the Santa painting Hammer Time and ask them why Q tells us the QA signature was done on purpose.
Noice. Yah, the santa painting. Hard to believe it's been so many years....
Just illustrating the Santa drop... u/#q2598
PANIC?
Thank you so much! What a Christmas that was, eh?
Also, excellent illustration of Q using "QAnon".
(Confession: I did not re-read all the 64 "qanon" drops in formulating this post. oops!!)
Q didnt. But Q did refer itself itself (the team whoever is involved) as the one the media is attacking and the name they were using that they gave. The point was to show that Q had gone mainstream
Actually, the 1. 2. 3. drop clarifies that the media COULD NOT attack the source (Q) and so they began to use the strategy of creating a new concept, new idea aka "qanon" which they used to label and associate anon-sourced content, some of which was deliberately injected by bad actors, to muddy the waters and present a false narrative.
That post comes in the 36th of 40 months of posting. Why at that time? Why not before?
Why was Q constantly referencing patriots and anons with "qanon' in their handles and monikers and posts prior to that?
Expand your thinking!
Q lot of people say when you search “qanon” you only find references to the media calling Q Qanon and that Q never once referred to themselves by that title.
I am simply saying I took it as a challenge, and found the one time he references himself as possibly Qanon was how the Santa hammer poster was signed as QA and he points it out says the signature was there on purpose, meaning it was signed QA presumably referring to themselves as QAnon
Santa w a hammer signed by QA.
This Christmas we want JUSTICE!
Confirmed.
'QA' > 'QAnon' > HAMMER
More to find over time.
Happy Hunting!
Q
Why, then,
does Q sign the Santa Hammer poster as QA then imply the QA stands for Qanon?
Well written, well sourced at many instances.
Attn Admin: can you please sticky this post. All of GA needs to read it.
ARCHIVED: https://files.catbox.moe/ifh8rf.pdf
Thanks for taking the time to write this, Frac.
I love this. Thank you for reminding us of our history. It helps to refocus & surge forward. Gods Blessings!
Hard to get upset about the label we proudly wore in those days. Just have to handle it carefully now, like so many other words the DS has hijacked and distorted the meanings of.
Q 4514
"The scale this generates is disproportional enough to distort public perception: In 2018, ISD identified close to 30m uses of the word “QAnon” across Twitter, YouTube and forums such as Reddit and 4chan." Numbers today dwarf past estimates.
Handle w/ care.
Q.
___ So lets do what Q said. Handle with care.
Awesome post! Much here to give important background to those new to GAW! Well done fren! 👏
There was so many posts and random youtubers saying stuff leading up to the 2020 election like Michael Jackson being still alive, JFK Jr being alive, clones and body doubles replacing people who were executed at GITMO, and so much weird stuff that seemed to come out of nowhere.
Okay? and your name is Chimera? :D
Excellent analysis. And yet not one single article ever has linked to any of the posts or reflector sites.
Funny about that, huh.
(actually, no)
That fact reinforces the point Q makes in 4881, namely that the propaganda arm cannot attack the source itself (Q) and so they need to misdirect people to a fake creation, projected under the hijacked 'qanon'.
They want to direct people AWAY from the Q drops and fact of the operation as much as possible.
They tried. They failed.
Succinct
Great post. Thank you, patriot.
That's some serious big brain fact finding. Highly impressive, and all true. Thanks for the time and effort!!!
Lots of our original tweets used #QAnon for visibility, but it definitely became hijacked by the MSM.
;.;
There is Q
There is anons.
From at least as early as 2018 the DS has used Qanon as a weapon.
Attention all. There is Q.
Post 4881 says so.
There is 'Q'. 1
There are 'Anons'. 2
There is no 'Qanon'. 3
Would a real anon directly go against Q?
Also, remember your oath.
WWG1WGA
A real anon does their own thinking. Makes their own choices.
Hallmark of "The Great Awakening"!
OK. How many times is Q full of shit in YHO?
Hey say what you will but this OP is not accurate. The Qanon was short lived, very short and certainly before the media started on it
I didnt see these facts mentioned but 'Qanon' being the early name was simple and short. So heres the history, actually.
-if you remember, there was a favorite anon in 2016 called 'fbi anon' that sparked interest as an anon insider. Anyone who remembers this knows this was sort of a primer, whether connected or not. Until Q signed Q, it was a 4ch anon;
-the Q identity started 11/1/17-- before then had just been an anon, who had started posting on 4ch (exactly 5 years ago)
-Q made the big 'my fellow americans...' post as Q Clearance Patriot on 11/1 also. Then began signing as Q which was when most started just referring to Q as Q. The Qanon dropped quickly, never stuck once the Q poster began signing as Q.
Thats it. And so after that, which was literally the very beginning, calling Q 'qanon' was not the norm by anyone who had been reading from day one. So the use of that esp in media was thought to be by the baddies to create a search term aka pathway to their lies, for one thing
Qanon mentioned by Q, as mentioned above: -from 2018 when linking or mentioning media attacks. Never was it as qanon, on the contrary when Q mentioned the google searches the picture began to emerge of the attempt to coin a search term by the msm/clowns
-the distinction made by Q in 2020 was to formally clarify but more for later readers and to counter msm fake coverage
Its strange to see how many agreed with the op it bc 1 its not accurate and 2 who is motivated to write an essay on something that even if it were true profits nothing?
So if ppl dont agree its inaccurate or unsure, its worth asking themselves before they get all up^ happy--whats the op trying to accomplish here? wow. convince all that the vile msm was correct in 2018 also confirmed by q hammer post, and we need to take it back? That is absurd and again not true, so who the heck cares--it belongs to the msm, it was their creation and well played.
Im not even getting into it with op bc Ive got battles rn that take all Ive got and this is just stupid bc anyone who knows, just knows. Tragic that weve come to place where if a post is really long its assumed to be quality. And mods loved it, no surprise.
I like gaw for the good crowd, lots of ppl who trust and magnify God, and lots of ppl who do see the truth. Thats all I care about. The op of this post had no valid point and potential to lead astray and mods affirmed it. But if even the elect can be deceived anyone can be
Thanks for the comments. I think perhaps you had better read the post again; you seem to have missed all of it.
The post is NOT suggesting that "Qanon" was used to refer to Q, but rather to the Q movement, the movement and community of patriots. As in "we are qanon".
There is most certainly a post by Q in December of 2018, for example, that emphasizes QA = QAnon = Hammer. Moreover, the 30 million+ instances of the expression "qanon" in 2018 are not attributed to Q, but to the community around Q.
No one I know is suggesting that Q signed on as "qanon" for any length of time. So, you're talking about potatoes while the post is talking about tomatoes, as far as I can see.
I suggest you re-read the post and read the examples given, from Q drops, about how "qanon" was actually being used by the whole community. Not specifically as a reference to Q, but in reference to the movement, the phenomena, and all of us.
Addendum: some of the points you are making are worth noting, but are not really relevant to the theme or message of the post.
I suggest you could write a post about that aspect of the Q operation, in terms of how Q emerged on the chans, and how Q signed themselves. That's also worthwhile history.
Going back to the CBTS board on reddit, we never used qanon to refer to ourselves, nor was it used on 4chan or 8chan by anons.
No, but by the time that r/GreatAwakening was going, anons and patriots were using qanon.
The Christmas post should put to rest any dispute that Q was unaware or particularly disapproving or unaccepting of the use of qanon.
Q:
I was one of the first on this board, I believe there were maybe 20-30 at the most in that first 3 or so weeks posting, we didn't use the term qanon here at that time either. Qanon is strictly a 5th column media invention, and was not addressed by Q until those media morons "cleverly" coined the term.
Thanks Choc. How long has this board been running?
I want to say about 2.5 yrs iirc, maybe a tad longer.
Ok. That's cool.
I'm pretty sure that by the time the r/GA came along, a LOT of us were using qanon to refer not to Q, but rather to the movement, to the collective body and community generated from the Q drops.
See the other example I posted of an anon using "qanon" in November 2017.
The etymology of where the term first started, is logically tracked back to the chan convention of XXX+anon when referring to specifically identifiable anons. (megaanon, fbianon, etc)
So the expression itself follows the common chan nomenclature, doesn't it? Whether the media picked up on that and began dropping hit pieces, or anons and qpatriots cheerfully used qanon to refer to ourselves, it does follow chan convention, and seems very likely to have been organically generated.
What is clear is that MANY q patriots adopted it and used it as the great awakening expanded during 2018. By q patriots, I draw a distinctyion between the anons who were primarily or only on the chans, and the rest of the great awakening, who used aggregated Q sites to research and follow, and who populated the wide internet outside the chans.
That wider collective of 'qpatriots' are what expanded the great awakening outward, even while the chan anons kept the kettle boiling with Q. And that wider collective most certainly adopted and used 'qanon', as shown by all the evidence on the q board. IMO.
FYI, I have an excel file downloaded to my hard drive on 29 nov 017, created by ApachePOI, entitled Calm before the Storm. The columns are Updated Q questions (Chron Order); Answeres (locked); Extra Answers (locked); etc. The file records the following entry by the author:
These appear to be an early instance of an anon recording and collating Q content current until the end of November 2017. The file was downloaded to my computer
Notice the comment "Qanon mentioned .....this morning". The qdrop mentioned was dropped on Nov 21, 2017.
Also, "Qanon asks with potus...."
So, in my view, this is direct evidence that at least some anons were referring to Q as Qanon, right from the start.
Another corroborating piece of evidence is that "Blahblah+Anon" was a commonly uses structure/syntax, as far as I know, on the chans. Examples: MegaAnon, FBIanon, etc.
What I offered is actually historical. And relevant. The media started qanon in 2018. They coined it for search term pathway to their propaganda. It was always Q and anons from the beginning and after the media did this, there became qanon.
Thanks Copper. Can you point me to an actual first instance where the media started the expression "qanon" before any of our patriots and anons were using it in the Great Awakening?
Many thanks. If what you state is true, it should be pretty easy to find, or not. Either way, looking forward to seeing it.
After 5+ years, many of us will have varying recollections, impressions and memories. Memories are powerful, but not always accurate. Why is why is reinforced the post and its premise with multiple actual references to the Q board.
I think the facts paint a clear picture myself, but if you can find the actual data that shows the media started "qanon", I'd be chuffed.
This is excellent. As a relative newbie myself (found Q in December 2020 while trying to make sense of the election aftermath), this was always my general impression, but you’ve given a fantastic and thorough explanation here. Thank you for this very-high-effort post!
Glad you are here, patriot. It's folks like you that make oldies like me feel vindicated and that our efforts were worth it.
God bless all you old frogs for helping us tadpoles find our way to the (often difficult) Truth! 🙂🐸
What you say about the origin of qanon may be true, but what Q specifically said in post 4881 was for a reason. The qanon term is used by the media owned DS to sow division and most certainly, turn the public against the movement of the Great Awakening.
The qanon term was never used by Q as an identification. Very important. The santa painting was not a Q = qanon at all. Maybe a hint at what was before, but that is not confirmed by Q.
Q DID confirm in post 4881 that there is only Q.
My point is that we should not be using the qanon term now because of the negativity that is attached to it by the fake news media and DS operatives doing and saying crazy things in the name of qanon. As others have pointed out, it was a short lived name some Anons gave to Q.
We shouldn't be stuck on this as it has no real importance to the Great Awakening other than it should be noted that the term qanon was hijacked by the DS and used to attack and try to discredit a good thing. A learning point for newbies as to how evil operates.
I found the Q drops in February 2018 and I never liked the 'qanon' term given by some Anons because it just doesn't resonate with me. It sounds like a silly nickname that is not to be taken seriously. Maybe that is why the DS ran with that moniker?
Thanks for the interesting and to-the-point reply. I think there are a few points here worth discussing a bit more.
I think it's fair to conclude that the Santa painting (which one has to assume was actually created at the behest of Q team somehow) is a tacit admission that QA, QAnon was widespread and used by the GA community.
In any military campaign, a certain level of flexibility is necessary so that the overall aims can be achieved while responding to the changing flow of the battlefield. I think Q was probably fine with the idea or moniker of qanon being capitalized on by patriots and anons, as it definitely not only aided in but played a big part in the growth of the movement and the patriotic base. There is plenty of evidence (the role the moniker played in the growth) for that if one simply cares to review it.
Again, it should also be emphasized, at least in my recollection and understanding, qanon was not being used specifically only in reference to Q. We all knew who Q was. It was also very widely used as a label for the whole movement / operation and the community of patriots in the movement.
However, also critical to understand (imo) is that as the battlefield changed, as the GA went mainstream, when it switched to "you are the news now" stage, there became a critical need to differentiate between Q as a stand alone entity and anons, and all the narratives that anons generated BUT NOT Q.
Speculation: It is possible that Q were hoping that "you are the news now" phase would grow bigger than it did, and that this would overwhelm the Cabal Media to the point where the need to pull the "The is only Q - there is no QAnon" ricord did not exist.
It's incredibly noteworthy, in my opinion, that the "The is only Q - there is no QAnon" ripcord was ONLY pulled in the 36th month of the entire 40 months of operation.
Pedes who are asserting that 'qanon' was only ever a creation of the cabal media, that Q never owned it or condoned it, etc., seem to fail to take this into account. If the widespread use of 'qanon' by anons and patriots OUT in the mainstream sphere (aka NOT on the chans) was problematic prior to that point (towards the end of the operation), why did Q wait so long to make this particular post?
Think logically. Look at all the various facts without prejudice, then piece the puzzle together.
It's a fair point, and a fair opinion. I don't know that anyone is seriously advocating for anons to resume or begin again using "qanon".
Note, however, that the corp/state-run media propaganda teams will ALWAYS do this. Heck, they have tried (and failed) to do this with "MAGA"!!!! The only reason they could hijack qanon the way they did is because the base was too small and they were able to overwhelm it. Which is another logical reason for speculating whether Q team were hoping for a greater impact of "you are the news now".
That has not been proven. There is a lot of evidence saying that it is otherwise. Yes, some used the term to refer to Q, but once the Great Awakening expanded off of the chans onto Reddit, Voat, twitter, social media platforms, etc, qanon was used a WHOLE lot. Even scummy The Guardian acknowledged more than 30,000,000 instances of the term appearing over the net during 2018.
Well, who is stuck on this? What's your point here? Forget the past? Misunderstand it? If you are arguing that we should not be focused on trying to revive "qanon", well, I don't see anyone arguing for this anyway.
With apologies, it seems to me that your conclusion that is has no real importance seems to the Great Awakening is somewhat shallow. You might think the truth of history is not important, but surely others will argue the opposite.
That said, fwiw, I agree with you that its useful to not that the term was hijacked and used to discredit, which provides one or more learning points for newbies.
That, indeed, is the essential message of my original post. Or did you miss that point? kek.
Hey, a bit of subjective feeling. Fine, No probs. Some anons loved the term, because of what it represented to them (aka the Great Awakening, the Q operation, etc).
Don't know if in a perfect world we could do a survey of 1000 random people or conspiracy theorists and see what % think "qanon" sounds like a silly nickname, but seems like it would be almost impossible now.
Nothing wrong with having your own personal preferences, but I think its a core message of Q that the work of the information war should be approached using logic, reason, empirical data, while noting that emotional responses tend to cloud the capacity to apply these.
Maybe its worth considering how you own particular dislike for the term 'qanon' affects or doesn't affect your thought processes around this topic. I would do the same, and have to admit that I have many positive associations with the expression because of the role it played in (what I observed as) the growth and evolution of the Great Awakening.
But that might be the starting point for the investigation that this post opened up, but as I go along, I find more and more data and information that paints a clear picture reinforcing my initial thoughts on the matter.
At the risk of going far, far too overboard, I'm tempted to reflect:
I think you have got the gist of, and am in agreement with, the core message of my post, but that your personal dislike for the expression prompts you to say: "(the topic) is not important, so let's just move on, please".
Wondering how you see it.
Either way, thanks for the interesting and to-the-point reply. It provided a lot of opportunity for me to dig a little bit deeper into this topic, which I personally think is worth my time and effort!
Excellent reply, I agree with what you are saying and understand your original post even more. I wasn't sure if you were pushing to use the qanon term which is what I don't think should be done especially at this point with the negative connotations that surround the word have now because of the dishonest globalist owned MSM.
You are just clarifying the origins of the word qanon and teaching newbies the history. Thank you for clearing that up for me!
I think Q team had anticipated this move by the DS and that is why Q waited so long to confirm "There is only Q". It was to separate the Q operation from the inevitable disinformation attack by the DS. Had Q confirmed in the beginning, the "qanon" attacks would be "Q" attacks. Maybe that is too simplistic, but it is logical to simplistic me.
The public at large will come to understand this one example of many that it is how they are misled by those who they trusted the most. Perhaps this was also part of the Plan. We are to be the calm in the storm, qanon or not.
It is just my personal opinion that "qanon" is rather silly or cutesy. "Q" just sounds more professional. Just me!
Thanks for the response!
Glad that through dialog, we've been able (together) to improve the signal and clear some of the noise.
Your point about Q not dropping the "there is no qanon" bomb earlier is an interesting and logical one. Certainly a possibility to consider.
Q vs Qanon?
As a linguist (aka uses scientific approach to study language as a communication system, works with language as a tool/instrument), I'm not really sold one way or the other. I agree, "Q" has lots of power, and yeah, that includes a certain weightiness that one might associate with professionalism.
It's a plain fact that Q never signed any drops as Qanon (afaik), so clearly Q is the definitive label, and it would be crazy to think that Q never planned it exactly this way (i.e. choice of "Q" being a deliberate step). Maybe Q tolerated 'qanon' for the duration simply because it was useful, but also perhaps as you suggest, because too early a clarification would have its own consequences.
"qanon" is more folksy, I think. It reverberates with the chan culture of MEgaAnon, and FBIanon, etc.
I personally don't feel any preference or emotional pull towards one or the other, but the nuances you are highlighting (cutesy/professional) are, I think, pretty much on point (although I might be tempted to express those differences in slightly different terms).
If Q had run the operation as "qanon", dang, that would have made it simply a "chan" phenomenon, which is what the DS tried to paint it as in the beginning. But, the movement very quickly grew beyond the chans, and while the chans remained the backbone or rather the nerve center where Q dropped and interacted with anons, it was on places like reddit and twiffer that the Great Awakening really burst forth and took off.
Kek, they banned GA on reddit, and so we simply became diaspora, but by then, too many patriots were tuned in.
While we're on the topic, how fricken' epic is "Q+"? You gotta wonder. Was this in the original blueprint, or did Papa T say, like, "Hey, How about we use a Q+ for potus, so I can directly let anons know I'm here!!!!" Seems like it would be a very DJT thing to do.
Thanks again 76! See you on the board!
I had no clue what the chans or reddit was until I stumbled upon Q reading the comments on YouTube videos. I was a regular normie and maybe half awake. Q and the Great Awakening has been a bone this dog won't let go!
I love Q+ and am a staunch supporter. I expect great things from him in the future whatever they may be!
Thank you for your thoughtful replies and I will see you on the boards as well!
BTW, I love your username!
PS. Maybe my comment about "Should we just let the DS hijack what was once ours?" question might have implied that I was actually doing that. I wasn't (and aren't).
Primarily (between you and me!) I just wanted to set the fricken' record straight, as I was getting a bit tired of seeing board pepes go "Hey! There is no qanon! What is Qanon, Smeagol?" etc, whenever a "qanon" comment or hit piece came out in the media.
I do think it might be worth reflecting on whether at some point we can or will reclaim it. If I had to guess, I would say yes. Because, despite their best efforts to use "qanon" as a label to discredit the entire movement, it has also become the very label that has continued to facilitate the spread of the movement. When the actual truth comes out (btw, did you see that DJT just re-truthed, this morning, "The Storm is Coming WWG1WGA Q"?), folks are going to be like, "sure, I've heard of qanon! Are you telling me that this Q thing is legit? Wow!"
They hijacked 'qanon' in an effort to stem the growth by poisoning the minds of people. But, it ain't working. For a short time, it has slowed or distorted the charge, but .... well... ncswic!
I expect that in the future, the qanon label will lose its negative connotations, and rather will be a history lesson on how the Cabal worked their asses off to try to stop the storm.
HOWEVER, that is really the least of our concerns now. We're in the battle, in the heat of the war, so what future does with 'qanon' doesn't really matter in terms of demanding our attention. We must fight the battle we are in. kek. kek. Maybe that is what you were saying all along!
If so, I agree.
I agree wholeheartedly with what you said and I hope 'qanon' will be reclaimed. It is the least of our worries at this time but there will come a time to fight for it.
Bro take a second and breath. Your getting very emotional over this and missing the point
Correct!
Kek, it's like this site tests people or something
Sleepers in the awakening? Probably many. I don't trust anything except that God has been/is/will be good. This whole board could be CIA, how would one check?
"The truth is like a lion, you don't have to defend it, LET IT LOOSE and it will defend itself."
We do what we can, we better ourselves today, tomorrow whatever will be will be.
Many libtards actually listen to me, And that is the best thing we can do. Maybe when I'm knowledgable and good at explaining things I'll make a vlog or something I don't know. I have been learning Unreal Engine, maybe people can learn about corruption and the dangers of libtardness from video games while I make a living.
Where are we going to be in 5 years type stuff.
Qanon being a thing or not, does not matter imho, but thanks to that, I'm here. If the Cucks In America don't villify it I wouldn't have known about it.
Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose."
Fuck the commies/cabalists/pussies in the CIA.
There is no Qanon, that's just what people used to call themselves before Q said it didn't exist, which is true, it's just a tag a name someone came up with.
How I understand it, (been here since ~late 2019), Q needed tell us to drop using "Qanon" so it would be harder to typecast and vilify the movment (their go to strategy, rehearsed libtard dogma).
Ironically that typecasting and villifying from my peers is what made me look it up. They called me Qanon over and over, and I was like, wtf is that? I was all "there is no Qanon you media simp".
I'm glad the noobies pay enough attention to the new guidance on "qanon" but its like debating with the flat earther noobies about "disinformation is necessary" sometimes. It wasn't just Qanon but all anons got named by others and got that anon attachment at the end like FBIanon and such (it got annoying at times)
Excellent post, sincere thanks for the history lesson. Wish I could updoot extra for the Tolkien reference.
There is no QAnon. It has been Q. Q Anon is something the media came up with for their derp state stooges.
Also remember, His Story is not Your Story.
Don't buy in, cre-ate.
Dust your feet off and let God humble his heart. He most definitely will. When people put themselves at the top of the mountain it's often hard for them to hear anything besides themselves. JESUS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT