The MSM didn't "just get it completely wrong." They got it wrong knowingly, deliberately, and intentionally. In short, they lied. Neither confessions nor apologies can restore their credibility.
when you believe them, you think it's outrageous to question what they say, and once you realize they're a weapon pointed at your head, you wonder how anyone could ever believe any of that crap!
In the 19th century every newspaper told you right up front the ideology they promoted. I think you can admit that you have a point of view yet still repsect factuality, but these people pretend they have no point of view, and the facts are irrelevant.
The game is simple, plausible deniability. You're seeing it with the scamdemic and the walk back on what was done. "We based our decisions on what we knew at the time. Don't hate us for operating out of an abundance of caution...blah blah blah."
They just need someone/something they can deem as a credible source, a fig leaf, and they they are off and running. In the scamdemic it was Fauci and Fauci used his years of "experience" to present his word as unassailable. Along the way more experts were cited until the whole castle was built. Same for Russiagate, same for justification in the War on Terror. Conspiracies so vast you cannot see all the pieces except looking backward over time.
We were built to be trusting and believe in each other. And that is what makes this so vile on a planetwide basis. The MSM has been the method to promulgate these lies endlessly and throughout everything we see, read, and hear. And it is all to relentlessly move us to accept whatever outcome they want. You have to resist EVERYTHING spooged out by the MSM (or politicians), none of it is actually what is going on but almost certainly the inverse. And you won't fully understand the impact until years later.
I think there needs to be more clarity and responsibility with whom they label an expert. MSNBC called Gottlieb an expert, without clarifying that he was on the board of Pfizer. Fauci, a doctor without patients, is not an experienced doctor. At best, he was a researcher, paid by Big Pharma, with a history of questionable medical ethics. They need to start disclosing the backgrounds of their so-called experts, or face serious consequences. Moreover, whatever happened to conflicts of interest? That Gottlieb was formerly a member of the FDA, before he was purchased by Pfizer, which has a history of FDA violations (not to mention Nuremberg Code violations) should have been red-flagged as a conflict of interest. There should be no crossover employees allowed between Big Pharma reps and gov't health advisors. Paid goons are not experts. Besides, coming from colleges nowadays that cannot even define biological genders, how qualified are these so-called frankenscientists?
I used to do training for retail stores. Would be in front of 50 people and pick one to come up front, they never pushed back. Would ask them to do something they'd never consider doing if a stranger asked them and they'd do it. We called it "The Guy in the Front of the Room" (TGITFOTR) effect. Authority figure, you accept what they say unconditionally. It's no different than the majority of us agreeing with the Patriot Act when it was first proposed never considering most of it was 100% anti-Constitutional if we even tried to read it at all. But, TGITFOTR proposed it so we said OK.
Greenwald is wrong about Bots being irrelevant. They form an essential function for the Deep State in that they are the manufactured consent of the people.
This isn’t completely correct. It is a left and right issue because they didn’t ‘just get it wrong’ - they got it wrong on purpose to advance the lefts agenda, protect the left and simultaneously blockade the right while vilifying them. I hate to break it to Matt, but that’s an extremely positive outlook from someone who’s career depends on people needing the media. How about this. There is no road to redemption. Own it and then get the Fuck out of our lives
Unfortunately, I don't think relying on the honor of the MSM is going to be a practical approach.
It's going to take patriots calling them out with facts and receipts because they will never be honest enough to do it on their own. MSM is beholden to the deep state and will not willingly break away.
Good thing we patriots are a stubborn, determined group!
A full inquistion needs to run through that entire industry. The guilty found and punished. Followed by a full and complete changeover of personnel. everyone gone. Even the 'innocent" because they sat on their hands and watched it all happen. Which in and of itself is a violation of the purpose to even have a "free press".
Then bring back in only those that got loud about the crime and corruption dominating that industry. And over time, refill the ranks with actual investigators and reporters, and test to exclude all those idiot Karens that self identify as busy body know it alls in high school "journalism" courses.
It’s a lot more insidious than this. It was deliberate it was calculated and it was conspired. It was done to push the narrative it was done to cover and it was done to try to punish Trump because he didn’t play along with their rules. So all these people who fall for the trick the media says every time need to look inward a little bit. The media lies most of the time and they do this because they have full cover from social media sites and the government. They have absolutely no consequences for this behavior
No redemption, especially not for just being nice. They deserve to go to court and have justice carried out, some will deserve lighter punishments than others, and nothing can come before they pay their debts to society. And those debts will be steep for all of them.
And when one day they face God, he will judge them harshly for abusing their positions of power over others as well as for the awful things they have carried out against his children.
The age of Corporate News Media is done in my opinion. The independent media and personalities are going to be the future from here on out. As long as these people don't sell out for the all mighty dollar (and some will) the news will always be unbiased.
Props to Matt Taibi. He was always a rabid leftist but at least he is one of the few on the left that believes facts and truth still matter. And it's nice to see him grow as a journalist versus turning into an establishment shill. He used to run Obama puff pieces for Rolling Stone but now he does, you know, actual reporting.
A lie takes two parties though. One to tell it and one to believe it. Most of these lies, deceptions, fakes on the media that these dopes fall for are very easy to avoid if you have a little discernment. The fact EVERYTHING is sponsored by Pfizer nowadays should have raised many, many red flags. For the Russian thing, that was just nonsensical from the start. But the "pee pee tape" should have been a red flag and also the part they tried to bag Flynn for doing his job title should have alerted some. For this Ukraine thing, the fact that just a year prior they were co-conspirators in "impeachment #2" should have been remembered. One of my favorites was the Covington Kids story (Nick Sandman). This was made out to be an international incident of high importance. IT WAS TWO PEOPLE STARING AT EACHOTHER!
The MSM didn't "just get it completely wrong." They got it wrong knowingly, deliberately, and intentionally. In short, they lied. Neither confessions nor apologies can restore their credibility.
when you believe them, you think it's outrageous to question what they say, and once you realize they're a weapon pointed at your head, you wonder how anyone could ever believe any of that crap!
In the 19th century every newspaper told you right up front the ideology they promoted. I think you can admit that you have a point of view yet still repsect factuality, but these people pretend they have no point of view, and the facts are irrelevant.
People would rather continue being fooled than to have to face having been fooled for years. They're dug in.
The game is simple, plausible deniability. You're seeing it with the scamdemic and the walk back on what was done. "We based our decisions on what we knew at the time. Don't hate us for operating out of an abundance of caution...blah blah blah."
They just need someone/something they can deem as a credible source, a fig leaf, and they they are off and running. In the scamdemic it was Fauci and Fauci used his years of "experience" to present his word as unassailable. Along the way more experts were cited until the whole castle was built. Same for Russiagate, same for justification in the War on Terror. Conspiracies so vast you cannot see all the pieces except looking backward over time.
We were built to be trusting and believe in each other. And that is what makes this so vile on a planetwide basis. The MSM has been the method to promulgate these lies endlessly and throughout everything we see, read, and hear. And it is all to relentlessly move us to accept whatever outcome they want. You have to resist EVERYTHING spooged out by the MSM (or politicians), none of it is actually what is going on but almost certainly the inverse. And you won't fully understand the impact until years later.
/hart-celler act
Their credible source is "someone familiar with the matter."
IF there's no named source, there is basically no source. Journos can't trade on their integrity any longer because they don't have any.
Or worse, unnamed and anonymous.
I think there needs to be more clarity and responsibility with whom they label an expert. MSNBC called Gottlieb an expert, without clarifying that he was on the board of Pfizer. Fauci, a doctor without patients, is not an experienced doctor. At best, he was a researcher, paid by Big Pharma, with a history of questionable medical ethics. They need to start disclosing the backgrounds of their so-called experts, or face serious consequences. Moreover, whatever happened to conflicts of interest? That Gottlieb was formerly a member of the FDA, before he was purchased by Pfizer, which has a history of FDA violations (not to mention Nuremberg Code violations) should have been red-flagged as a conflict of interest. There should be no crossover employees allowed between Big Pharma reps and gov't health advisors. Paid goons are not experts. Besides, coming from colleges nowadays that cannot even define biological genders, how qualified are these so-called frankenscientists?
I used to do training for retail stores. Would be in front of 50 people and pick one to come up front, they never pushed back. Would ask them to do something they'd never consider doing if a stranger asked them and they'd do it. We called it "The Guy in the Front of the Room" (TGITFOTR) effect. Authority figure, you accept what they say unconditionally. It's no different than the majority of us agreeing with the Patriot Act when it was first proposed never considering most of it was 100% anti-Constitutional if we even tried to read it at all. But, TGITFOTR proposed it so we said OK.
TGITFOTR. Very interesting experiment. Like the elevator experiment. A sad observation of society.
...exactly ! and ur a fool to believe anything [ they ] spurt out going forward
Exactly
Greenwald is wrong about Bots being irrelevant. They form an essential function for the Deep State in that they are the manufactured consent of the people.
Exactly "manufactured consent" and "manufactured consensus" are terms people need to become very familiar with.
"Self-audit?" Dude, that's like asking any government agency to investigate themselves, then being surprised when they say they found nothing wrong.
This isn’t completely correct. It is a left and right issue because they didn’t ‘just get it wrong’ - they got it wrong on purpose to advance the lefts agenda, protect the left and simultaneously blockade the right while vilifying them. I hate to break it to Matt, but that’s an extremely positive outlook from someone who’s career depends on people needing the media. How about this. There is no road to redemption. Own it and then get the Fuck out of our lives
He’s a lefty, clearly. The dude doesn’t question the 9/11 narrative and comes across as arrogant on a regular basis.
Yeah if they decide to “own it”, it will just be another manipulation
I think he threw that in to effect the flavour of neutrality. No one's buyin' it, though.
Exactly.
They deliberately lied. Now, who fucking put them up to it or paid them to lie?
Infiltrated by C_A. Where did C_A come from? Nazis? Vril Society? Seances? How did they find out how to build flying saucers?
Unfortunately, I don't think relying on the honor of the MSM is going to be a practical approach.
It's going to take patriots calling them out with facts and receipts because they will never be honest enough to do it on their own. MSM is beholden to the deep state and will not willingly break away.
Good thing we patriots are a stubborn, determined group!
Weak and feckless.
All of them.
Elon Musk is not the good guy people have been fooled to believe.
They all know who John Jeffry Louis is.
They all know why Paul Ryan really resigned.
They all know about Racine.
Sorry but it is a Lefr/Right issue.
We know why they got it wrong, because they were paid to lie.
I disagree.
A full inquistion needs to run through that entire industry. The guilty found and punished. Followed by a full and complete changeover of personnel. everyone gone. Even the 'innocent" because they sat on their hands and watched it all happen. Which in and of itself is a violation of the purpose to even have a "free press".
Then bring back in only those that got loud about the crime and corruption dominating that industry. And over time, refill the ranks with actual investigators and reporters, and test to exclude all those idiot Karens that self identify as busy body know it alls in high school "journalism" courses.
It’s a lot more insidious than this. It was deliberate it was calculated and it was conspired. It was done to push the narrative it was done to cover and it was done to try to punish Trump because he didn’t play along with their rules. So all these people who fall for the trick the media says every time need to look inward a little bit. The media lies most of the time and they do this because they have full cover from social media sites and the government. They have absolutely no consequences for this behavior
Trump caught them all and Russiagate was just the coverup and delay tactic for the criminals. Nothing was a mistake for the big players
No redemption, especially not for just being nice. They deserve to go to court and have justice carried out, some will deserve lighter punishments than others, and nothing can come before they pay their debts to society. And those debts will be steep for all of them.
And when one day they face God, he will judge them harshly for abusing their positions of power over others as well as for the awful things they have carried out against his children.
The age of Corporate News Media is done in my opinion. The independent media and personalities are going to be the future from here on out. As long as these people don't sell out for the all mighty dollar (and some will) the news will always be unbiased.
What is required of the MSM is a sincere apology to all of us, including admitting their fault and their crime.
(but it's mostly a left thing.)
Props to Matt Taibi. He was always a rabid leftist but at least he is one of the few on the left that believes facts and truth still matter. And it's nice to see him grow as a journalist versus turning into an establishment shill. He used to run Obama puff pieces for Rolling Stone but now he does, you know, actual reporting.
A lie takes two parties though. One to tell it and one to believe it. Most of these lies, deceptions, fakes on the media that these dopes fall for are very easy to avoid if you have a little discernment. The fact EVERYTHING is sponsored by Pfizer nowadays should have raised many, many red flags. For the Russian thing, that was just nonsensical from the start. But the "pee pee tape" should have been a red flag and also the part they tried to bag Flynn for doing his job title should have alerted some. For this Ukraine thing, the fact that just a year prior they were co-conspirators in "impeachment #2" should have been remembered. One of my favorites was the Covington Kids story (Nick Sandman). This was made out to be an international incident of high importance. IT WAS TWO PEOPLE STARING AT EACHOTHER!
Fuck sakes.