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SUCCESS: Constitutional action against the IRS has been effective. I was refunded all taxes paid for recent tax year with W-2 correction to remove all "labor capital" intentionally misclassified as "income" by my employer [NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE] (media.greatawakening.win) ๐Ÿ† - WINNING - ๐Ÿ†
posted 3 years ago by MemeToDeath2021 3 years ago by MemeToDeath2021 +92 / -0
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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Federal taxation of capital earned in exchange for labor (i.e. labor capital) is unconstitutional per Constitutional structure of state and Federal gov't of the United States. When earned 1. not on Federal lands, 2. not from Federal job, and 3. not from job on Excise tax list


Issue is fixed with W-2 correction form filed with taxes stating the above and removing all labor capital improperly classified as "income".

Sample entry for IRS W-2 correction form 4852:

Labor capital is untaxable as "income" per Constitutional Law because it was paid in exchange for labor performed 1. not on Federal lands, 2. not from Federal job, and 3. not from job on Excise tax list.

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-4852



Based on my Constitutional Law study and piggybacking off work of Mr. Brian Swanson found here: "87,000 IRS GOONS WITH NO NEW POWERS OF TAXATION -- BRIAN SWANSON":https://rumble.com/v1hrnvb-87000-irs-goons-with-no-new-powers-of-taxation-brian-swanson.html

Additional sauce: Capital vs Income: https://capitalvsincome.com/

Be prepared to file ProSe action against the IRS in Federal Court if they come after you later. Use W. Virgina v EPA SCOTUS ruling to get an injunction nationwide to stop IRS operation if needed. IRS has usurped both legislative (Article I) and judicial (Article III) authority unconstitutionally as an executive branch entity (Article II), and ALL their actions are unconstitutional per Marbury v Madison (1803) AND since their inception (ab initio) per Hubbard, et al. v Lowe (1915).



Possible followup action against IRS with permanent injunction to prevent them from collecting taxes on "labor capital" nationwide.


Disclaimer: Not financial advice. Discuss with your financial adviser and attorney if needed.


DRAFT form Letter to IRS that may assist you in resolution of most matters they create for you: https://greatawakening.win/p/16aADrV8r4/for-anons-needing-irs-assistance/

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– SmolPedeBestPede 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Why would I discuss with a financial advisor or lawyer? Theyโ€™ll just tell me to be a sheep. I prefer your financial advice!

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

rofl...thank you, fren, just adding the required disclaimer.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I believe it is on the Federal Excise Tax list you can find on IRS website. It is somewhat limited, and I think new jobs added to it have to come from actual legislation passed by Congress. From what I understand IRS has no authority to add or remove jobs to/from the list as they have no legislative or judicial power per the Constitution.


AND SCOTUS just confirmed in W. Virginia v EPA that the legislative branch (Article I) may NOT delegate Constitutional authority to an executive entity (Article II) also invoking separation of powers doctrine.

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– Bostonstronk 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty sure this is what kent hovind went to jail for. Not that it's factually incorrect but they'll come for you for evading taxes and they get you eventually.

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– The3rdKey 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You are right. My father was a CPA and he started a statewide campaign to abolish income taxes and a friend who worked for the justice department was sent to inform him that his life and his families lives could be at stake if he continued his campaign.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Never, not pay taxes. Never say no. Just challenge them Constitutionally. Note that this applies only to "labor capital". If you have actual income such as capital gains for from businesses, etc, you have to pay Federal taxes on that because either it falls under Federal rules regarding corporations or legitimate Fed jurisdiction because it is in a "Fed gov't program" such as a 401K or IRA.


This is the fear porn that the IRS uses to control us. Yes, they may come after you, but you have to stay in Constitutional jurisdiction, sue them as noted, don't let them intimidate you, and NEVER argue with them over case law or IRS rules. They are all irrelevant, inferior, or unconstitutional and you must say that in an affidavit when you sue them in Federal District Court. Stand your Constitutional ground and fight if you choose to do so.

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– Bostonstronk 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If i wanted my full time job to be "keeping out of jail from the irs", sure.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

We are already at war. The question is: are you going to fight or not?


This may not be your time or your battle, but eventually they will force you fight for survival as well, and I pray you unleash holy hell on them when that time comes, fren.

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– Bostonstronk 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah idk i dont like lawfare or political subterfuge. I only know how to fight one way and it's physical. Hopefully they never push me that far

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm with you...it is quite distasteful being forced to fight this way. It will take all of us together fighting in our own ways to win this war.


Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct.


I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.

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– Bostonstronk 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I think it's a dangerous game tho. They are doubling the IRS workforce specifically to hammer down any little nails that stick out. I dont think there are enough tax protestors to expect to go unnoticed or unchallenged on stuff like this. With 200,000 people working full time to legally attack the little guy, remember... the process is the punishment. If they so choose they can come after you for years over 1 tax return. And they can start a whole new case every year you do something they dont like, even if you have sound legal recourse. They make an example out of people like this to make sure the masses never get inspired to stop paying.

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Note that this applies only to "labor capital".

Does labor capital cover normal white collar employment like say a software engineer or an accountant etc?

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Anything that can be tied to an hourly wage rate, preferrably shown on paystub as โ€œlabor rateโ€ is clear exchange of labor hours for โ€œlabor capitalโ€. So if you enter work time in hours, despite being paid salary, then clearly labor capital.


Even salaries typically use ~2000 hours to calculate โ€œwage rateโ€ for pay.


IRS only has jurisdiction over direct taxation of โ€œincomeโ€ for 1. Jobs performed on Federal Lands, 2. Jobs listed on Fed employees, 3. Jobs performed on Federal Excise Tax List (most not on it); Due to structure of Republic IRS cannot tax state citizens directly except through Excise Tax List on occupations. SCOTUS has confirmed in several cases the above. โ€œIncome Taxโ€ to IRS is voluntary AND an excise tax. If you not in above 3 categories, claim โ€œlabor capitalโ€ on W-2 correction form and submit 1040-X for payroll tax refund. Note IRS is slow walking requests now, and appears to have no money.


I still pay โ€œincome taxโ€ on capital gains while I get payroll taxes back. Going for 100% refund going back to very first paycheck.

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I still pay โ€œincome taxโ€ on capital gains while I get payroll taxes back.

Rooting for you, hope you win!

(I live in Australia, so its probably a whole different story here)

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– Archon69 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Also, the IRS makes a presumption that your labor has zero value and that you profited from being paid, rather than equally exchanging labor for money.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Yes. They are weasels. This is why we must trick them into attacking us so we can drop kick their asses out of the county per listed ProSe action above to nullify them once and for all.

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– 2moro2day 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Why would WE have to trick the IRS to come after any of us? Couldn't we all just file this and attach it to our tax filing?

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Correct. We just file the W-2 correction form with taxes.


However, if you wish to take additional action against them to basically stop their operation at least within the sovereign states, they have to cause "harm" to you individually so you have standing in Federal Court in order to file ProSe action against them as described above. I believe they know this, and that is why they are cautious. Someday, they will fuck with the wrong dude, and he will take them down.

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– nadlersskidmark 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

A guy I know is an accountant who had a client commit suicide due to IRS agent harassment. The agent had a real hard-on for his client and went above and beyond to make his life a living hell. I guess his widow sued and won a court case against them because of it. Still doesn't get her husband back. That agency is scary and anyone who would go work for them is a demon.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

The real problem is the IRS likes to stick the FBI on people when IRS tactics don't work. So yes, one must be prepared for a battle royale. I have beat them multiple times and have previously taken measures to shield assets after discovering much of the IRS unconstitutional organization and actions.


But the FBI is also unconstitutional for many of the same reasons as noted above, so they would be wise to be cautious when targeting people knowledgeable in Constitutional Law that are smart enough to stay out of Federal Lands, where they have no Constitutional jurisdiction.


Many of the J6 prisoners got tricked by their lawyers to come back to DC. They never should have done that.


Also, accountants are trained to follow IRS rules and procedures. They do not know Constitutional Law, and they are not interested in showing that all IRS rules and procedures are unconstitutional because Constitutional Law supercedes all. So basically lawyers, accountants, and IRS agents team up to gangfuck anybody that challenges them. That is why ProSe Constitutional action is most effective, and most feared by both IRS and FBI.

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– SocratesKnowsNothin2 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

very interesting thought/theory/fact:

"Many of the J6 prisoners got tricked by their lawyers to come back to DC. They never should have done that."

do you happen to have any examples or a state citizen avoiding federal land and thus avoiding the FBI's clutches? they do raids on non-federal land, albeit maybe unconstitutionally, so what would stop them from arresting and transporting J6ers from their homes do you think even if the J6ers new the constitution and told the agents their presence was illegal?

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You are likely correct. They may have come after them, but no reason to make it easy for them. Better to challenge jurisdiction, imo. When dealing with an unconstitutional Nazi organization, you can't really stop them from doing whatever they decide to do, but by voluntarily going into their jurisdiction, it is considered "consent to be prosecuted for any 'crimes' committed in that jurisdiction", imo, even if the 'crimes' are fabricated.


Best to never sign anything or ever give any verbal consent to anything when dealing with Feds since in most cases your signature or verbal consent are the only thing that gives them any jurisdiction, ever. This applies especially to those being held in jail, but uncharged.


Per due process violation of 5th Amendment, they should all be countersuing DOJ lawyers and Merrick Garland individually in Federal District Court civilly for "color of law violation" 42 USC 1983 and then immediately after file criminal charges for violations of 18 USC 241/242 AND 18 USC 2384 (prison time for each count). Then follow that up with Crimes Against Humanity violation charges and demand execution of all Defendants (DOJ lawyers and AG). Time to stop fucking around and time to start "legally" executing people, imo.

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– bublet 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Help me understand. You're being paid in material objects rather than money? Lets say ten bricks per hours labor. That's would not be considered taxable ordinary income. If you were to sell those bricks for cash, that would be income. But if you traded those bricks for beef, it's barter, not income. Transform to a life based on barter and you're free of the 'authorities'.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Barter is one way to look at it, but that tries to exploit loopholes within the tax law itself.


The jist of the issue is that 1. all tax rules are unconstitutional because they are NOT laws, 2. all tax court actions are null and void because they are not a Constitutional court with any authority, and 3. IRS has fooled everyone so they don't understand that "labor capital" and "income" are indeed separate things as confirmed by at leas 6 SCOTUS cases [TDLR: you have to invest labor capital to get investment return on capital in the form of "income"]


IRS is exploiting Americans' financial and Constitutional ignorance created intentionally by the schools.

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– merf 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You caused me to open a new category just for this fren, thanks!

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– HardEight 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Same here!

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– Christine_grab 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Almost 7 years ago, I caught California's income tax agency running an embezzlement and racketeering scheme. I have been trying to get it stopped since then. Because I have been fighting corruption at an income tax agency, a lot of people have contacted me about their problems with the IRS (which I know nothing about). I do want to note that the majority of people who have contacted me about their tax problems have said that all seems to be fine at the time. The returns were accepted without a peep. Then 2 - 3 years after the fact, the IRS went after them with a vengeance.

Edit to add: Good luck!!! I really hope you succeed!

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. They are criminals at CA Franchise Tax Board. Use their own rules against them and ask why they are "fabricating tax claims and then incentivizing employees to collect on fabricated tax claims". <---Most hated question by all state Tax agencies. Force them to show the sauce on the tax claim, and just keep saying they are fabricating it.


If you get a copy of their "Rules and Procedures" you can point out specific violations of their own processes which they intentionally do not follow, invalidating almost all FTB actions, automatically.

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– Christine_grab 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I am not disputing them over how much they believe I owe... I am going after the lowest hanging fruit, the areas where no one will doubt their actions are bona fide criminal behavior.

In my case, FTB straight out embezzled my quarterly estimated tax payments. I sent them canceled checks 31 times... couldn't find the $... then demanded that I send them more money to cover our tax liability... I sent them the extra money they demanded to stop the harassment... they embezzled that money, too, and then filed a wage garnishment...

Anyway, the more I digging I did, the more full on accounting fraud has come out. I've got 8 documented schemes to charge taxpayers more than what the FTB assesses is owed, using their own records that they submitted in court as evidence: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=611

Plus, there are several more suspected schemes that I am working on getting info for now: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=1191

Furthermore, they are systematically violating taxpayer rights to file disputes and to see your own records (so you can't see the accounting fraud).

At this point, because of the egregious accounting irregularities, I am fairly certain that the "suspended" (embezzled) funds are going into some kind of off-the-books spending account. The FTB said that since my request for information was so large, they needed until February 28, 2023 to respond. We'll see what they say... probably their typical evasive word salad that doesn't actually disclose any information.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This is going to bake your noodle: CA FTB appears to be a privately owned corporation. If you file a FOIA for their articles of incorporation to get the sauce, you can request a permanent injunction to terminate their operation with the boundaries of California State (Union State, 1850) per violation of Article IV, Section 4 of Constitution (if you sue them in Federal District Court).

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– Christine_grab 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If you saw the last message, then disregard it. My jaw had dropped and it took me a couple of minutes to fully process what you have written. I am writing up a California Public Records Request right now! I am going to send you a PM, too.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And it gets better...Corporations have no immunity from Constitutional violations per Hale v Henkel 201 US 43 (1906)

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– Christine_grab 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

:)

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

CA Tax Board needs to be dissolved via challenge to the consitutionality of the law that was used to create it. I believe I have an approach that can be used in other states as well. I will put together a post titled "Guide to Dissolving your State Tax Board for the cost of a $402 Federal District Court lawsuit". I believe it should work for all states with an "integrated" STATE BAR CORP that has been unconstitutionally inserted into the state gov't (Judiciary Branch) in violation of Article IV, Section 4.


Doing this so other anons can try it in their states as well.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Note that the other aspect of this is that Corporations are "incentivized" to misclassify labor capital as "income" on the W-2 per the threats of investigation (stick) and effective kickbacks of legal protections and tax incentives (carrot) that they receive at the Federal level; Individuals have to correct their own Federal with-holding form and instruct the corporation what to do, otherwise they default with what the IRS tells them.


Corporations all have professional accounting firms that are required to "follow the rules" (regardless of Constitutionality) or they get imploded like Arthur Andersen. And corporate executives are all largely cowards unwilling to individually take a stand to defend the Constitution.


Note that the professional accounting firms consist of the "Big 6" and a few smaller ones that keep the corporations in line for the IRS.

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– corrbrick 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is great stuff OP, using the Constitution against those who are supposed to be limited by it.

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– OneMoreTim3 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Are you able to do this if you already filed?

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, you can file an amended return for 2022 Tax Year with the 4852 form and revised 1040. Note that there is some risk of getting audited if you file an amended return, but it may be worth it if the refund is huge and it gives you additional resources to fight off the IRS if they decide to attack.


I think you can go back 5 years to file amended returns and collect back taxes paid, but I am still figuring out the specifics. It appears to be a rolling 5 year window that expires each October 15, so the deadline for 2017 may be October 15, 2023. You can confirm from IRS website if you do a search on "amended return".

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– OneMoreTim3 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks!

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Also note that you may be able to file amended returns as far back as the IRS allows to collect back taxes you paid as well. But be cautious with this as it may trigger an audit.


The ProSe action listed might be an adequate defense against the IRS if they audit you, and it may turn out that this is the way get standing to take them down (i.e. bait them into taking audit action, so you can sue them ProSe in Fed District Court and shut them down).


Disclaimer: Not financial or legal advice.

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– SocratesKnowsNothin2 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

do you have any knowledge or thoughts about business income/profits...particularly if one makes income from selling newly built homes or income from renting newly built apartments which in either case involved significant personal investment, a bank loan to develop and a bank loan to continue to own. any project would be owned and developed by a Massachusetts Limited Liability Company

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

My experience with LLCs is it is best to buy property with them, do accelerated depreciation and take 100% deductions for maintenance and property taxes, yearly. Then after all depreciation taken (as quickly as possible) transfer them to personal ownership or Trust ownership. Alternatively you can put an LLC inside a Trust, but I don't have direct experience with that (any asset can be placed inside a Trust, and this is what the elites do.)


One interesting thing regarding property is that it appears if you buy the property with Constitutional money (i.e. gold or silver eagles) and fully document the exchange with a witness/photos/etc, then you should get the FULL TITLE, not just EQUITABLE TITLE from the county. Once you have FULL TITLE and you make the county sign a QUIT CLAIM, they can no longer legally collect property taxes.


Note that you may have to get the property deed redone to match to an original land grant prior to the county's illegal shenanigans, but it is theoretically possible. However, until you get everything in order you must continue to pay property taxes or they will take the property away. Best to experiment with inexpensive vacant land to work out the process for the deed correction.

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– SocratesKnowsNothin2 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

sound advice fren. are you an accountant, lawyer, engineer or something of these sorts? not that you have to be, but you sound well researched with an eye for the clown world vs constitutional world

in terms of a development flip however, where there's no depreciation to realize, can that income be treated in a manner that keeps fed hands off it for taxes? I do provide a "service" for the income/profits I finally receive in the end. while there's some manual services, most are not, if that even matters.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I would describe myself as all the above plus more, kinda like a modern pissed off Jefferson/Madison hybrid ready to metaphorically put some heads on pikes.


It is very difficult to legally shield income except by putting assets in a Trust or offsetting income with business expenses, etc. But note that many expenses fall into that category legitimately when one is running an LLC that is active in operations and doing research to develop intellectual property, etc.


I try to stay out of gray areas regarding income, especially business income because it is hard to win those fights with the IRS. An LLC flow through arrangement or Trust shield/deferral is adequate for me. Note that a SB401K can defer taxes due on business income for a very long time, but eventually they get you.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Generally, states have full authority to collect taxes on whatever they decide to collect taxes on, so one must become active politically to change the state rules to suit your MAGA needs. Remember that your Massachusetts State sovereignty has been usurped by STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS CORPORATION (domiciled in Washington, DC).


Note that all states are currently unconstitutional and in violation of Article IV, Section 4 (since March 6, 1933), so you might be able to figure out the date your STATE BAR CORP inserted themselves into the Juidcial branch of your STATE CORP, and then nullify all laws, procedures, and rules from that date via ProSe action. Key evidence here is imposition of unconsititutional jurisdiction of Roman Civil Law/UCC instead of required Common Law/Constitutional Law per Article IV, Section 4 of US Constitution: "states are guaranteed a Republican Form of Gov't", NOT Corporate Form of Gov't.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Well done! Congrats!

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

ty. this took me a while to pull off and still work it cautiously.


Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct, and it was their decision, not mine, ultimately.


I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.

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– LuvTheSmellofFreedom 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

This post is Gold. (it has real value.)

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– Litecola2 1 point 315 days ago +1 / -0

Hello from the future... I have saved this post of yours for a long time in order to follow up with you and check how your stand against the unconditional IRS has gone. I'm trying to convince the spouse and family that this is a good time to do something similar to what you did, and would like to know whether you have seen any repercussions.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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General Rules

  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


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