Gotta say, as a programmer (in my previous life), I'm excited about this. Letting the ai handle the menial, boring aspect of coding while the human does the high level thinking. I wish I had this 20 years ago, I could have been so productive.
I agree with your sentiment, I am also a programmer and was introduced to AI in the early '90s. However, this has to take A LOT computer power to due the amount of TASK THREADS...which means a heavy duty multi-threaded processor to keep track of the threads...The processor has to be EXTREMELY EFFICIENCT AS IS THE CODE...
Machine Writing Code? Well, let's just say that the Jury is still out...This just came out and would be interested in seeing the paper (that should be written) about the processes going on inside the code and the interoperability of the classes...
Well. I will say however that, well, I'm not doubting that this is happening, I mean, the GitHub repo is sitting right there for anyone to see, but, however they are programming it's not just a simple process of sticking the ideas into gpt4. Nust for the last couple days I've been trying to get it to create a Richter scale visualizer, which I thought would be a simple little thing, and it can't do it, and it's literally like trying to get a baby to help you code. Every single iteration is some crazy, literally crazy mispronunciation or misconception of what you're asking it to do, even if you just cut and paste and say, redo code, doesn't work, and then repast your entire idea, it gives you some bizarre permutation. It becomes more performance art really where you're just like, okay, how can this screw it up again this way? It's absolutely crazy to think that these guys are getting these kinds of results out of the ai. Obviously there is something that maybe I don't understand or could do better. But still, this is pretty amazing, yes. But it's still very much a hacker thing. But the true innovation is that the value payload has has moved upwards from the execution layer to the innovation layer, to the idea itself, which is really the interesting thing here I think. Like, I don't know how to code, I often have ideas that are no require coding that I can't execute on, but, this obviously would change that, potentially
This little thing reminds me of a Terrence McKenna quote:
"We are creating a technological entity, and the more we immerse ourselves in its configurations, the more it will become like us, and we like it, until the boundary between us is blurred and the entity is born... And like the fetus—or, yes, poised at the head of the birth canal—we don't know where we're going."
Save your money. Only 3.5 can code, really, and it does a really poor job. I do think that if they can get recursive versions looking at each other's code then maybe they could do something but right now, the amount of quality control you have to do on it come to the amount of redo and just obvious stupid errors is just too much to make it worth it
Agree, and actually it is growing. Just the other night it randomly suggested that it sent code directly to my GitHub grist. It did it twice and then promptly forgot that it could do it and proceeded to act retarded again. They are clearly working on it
I spent a couple of hours trying to get it to generate copy/pastable markdown, as it's doc generation is pretty good, but the formatting of the output is sometimes weird because the responses are formatted as markdown internally.
Awesome McKenna quote and a very interesting thread to boot. This guy pushed the envelope with psychedelics so incredibly hard and was so eloquent about his experiences that I find him enthralling.
That's quite the pilgrimage and I have too many questions.
Personally I find the limited scope of normie thought hard to deal with even well outside the realm of geopolitics. The peep who instinctively down voted both posts at the mere mention of psychedelics is a perfect example.
I predict a high order of probability that he/she acted on "some kind of towering, Jesus based rage", to quote Hunter S. Thompson and continue the general theme.
I very badly need to get out of the city so I can hear the "scream of the butterfly" to quote Morrison.
I forget what McKenna was up to in Peru. I remember something about cow-pat psilocybe mushrooms and him going on a right proper bender but can't remember if it was there. Was everyone wearing bowler hats?
I use it a lot as a tool to generate code, but not a full program. Basically, it lets me be an engineer, while it goes and fills the role of a code monkey. It's not perfect, but it saves a lot of time and toil.
GPT-4 is not good for code, GPT-3.5 is good.
Also remember if you run out of response, you can tell it "continue previous response".
(Based on the lessons of history...) Here's the progression....
Release an AI that can write code for people
Everyone gets used to letting the AI do the coding
In a little while, the AI inserts spyware into everything
This way, everything is spying on you. Not just your phone, or Apple, or Android, or your smart TV - but literally everything. Even from small developers that wouldn't normally be 'teamed up' with Big Tech.
The spyware will be at the low level, where no one wants to code anymore.
General rule: Anywhere there is consolidation, there is corruption.
I can’t stand the idea of brain implants as being ubiquitous. Something that in my mind leads to all the willful robot brain people being programmed against their will to fix all the refusers
Once we win, I'm really looking forward to seeing a lot of stuff stopped.
But in order to actually 'roll back' the gains that the Cabal has made (in language, law, degeneracy, surveillance, etc), it's going to require strong support from an overwhelming majority of the population.
I think that support already exists (and is growing).
The World is going to look extremely different in the coming decades. ChatGPT is a Pandora’s box that’s been opened. Whether you like it or trust it is moot at this point. The Box is open and barring some sort of overwhelming evidence we’re about to get skynetted. Your probably not going to get enough support to put the genie back in the metaphorical bottle. You could likely minimize it’s presence in your personal life. But at a professional level it’s here to stay.
AI stands to dramatically upset the standards for what we consider “Work”. We’re in uncharted territory. And things can either go well. Or badly.
Awesome maybe in the future I can get the app I wanna make going. 😁 Coding was the biggest short fall. Definitely can find the people for everything else
Seems anyone can do this type of stuff. Tool can be used by blackhats to show it is possible any audio (maybe pics & vid soon) are unable to be verified as real due to this stuff.
Also could be used to put anyone in prison that doesn't belong there.
This post is scary, in the sense that a powerful new tool of the overlords has been loosed upon us all, and no one knows exactly what it can do. Many will probably go down because of this. God protect us.
However, the biggest takeaway I have from reading here and following the links is that OpenAI (and the like) might just be the cudgel needed to wrest AI control from the deep state and give it the people.
That's freaking YUGE! It also tickles my funny bone!
I think the deep state was really looking forward to instituting even deeper levels of control via AI/ANI/AGI but instead 'hackers' have already jumped in and taken the reins. Glorious!
Be wary, though, AI enthusiasts! You know the deep state won't let this control mechanism go without a fight.
Gotta say, as a programmer (in my previous life), I'm excited about this. Letting the ai handle the menial, boring aspect of coding while the human does the high level thinking. I wish I had this 20 years ago, I could have been so productive.
It won't stop there you know.
I agree with your sentiment, I am also a programmer and was introduced to AI in the early '90s. However, this has to take A LOT computer power to due the amount of TASK THREADS...which means a heavy duty multi-threaded processor to keep track of the threads...The processor has to be EXTREMELY EFFICIENCT AS IS THE CODE...
Machine Writing Code? Well, let's just say that the Jury is still out...This just came out and would be interested in seeing the paper (that should be written) about the processes going on inside the code and the interoperability of the classes...
Well. I will say however that, well, I'm not doubting that this is happening, I mean, the GitHub repo is sitting right there for anyone to see, but, however they are programming it's not just a simple process of sticking the ideas into gpt4. Nust for the last couple days I've been trying to get it to create a Richter scale visualizer, which I thought would be a simple little thing, and it can't do it, and it's literally like trying to get a baby to help you code. Every single iteration is some crazy, literally crazy mispronunciation or misconception of what you're asking it to do, even if you just cut and paste and say, redo code, doesn't work, and then repast your entire idea, it gives you some bizarre permutation. It becomes more performance art really where you're just like, okay, how can this screw it up again this way? It's absolutely crazy to think that these guys are getting these kinds of results out of the ai. Obviously there is something that maybe I don't understand or could do better. But still, this is pretty amazing, yes. But it's still very much a hacker thing. But the true innovation is that the value payload has has moved upwards from the execution layer to the innovation layer, to the idea itself, which is really the interesting thing here I think. Like, I don't know how to code, I often have ideas that are no require coding that I can't execute on, but, this obviously would change that, potentially
This little thing reminds me of a Terrence McKenna quote:
Save your money. Only 3.5 can code, really, and it does a really poor job. I do think that if they can get recursive versions looking at each other's code then maybe they could do something but right now, the amount of quality control you have to do on it come to the amount of redo and just obvious stupid errors is just too much to make it worth it
Agree, and actually it is growing. Just the other night it randomly suggested that it sent code directly to my GitHub grist. It did it twice and then promptly forgot that it could do it and proceeded to act retarded again. They are clearly working on it
That's really useful.
I spent a couple of hours trying to get it to generate copy/pastable markdown, as it's doc generation is pretty good, but the formatting of the output is sometimes weird because the responses are formatted as markdown internally.
Why can only 3.5 code? That seems like a step backwards.
GPT4 expressly says it can't code
Bing uses gpt4 and it can code.
yeah think of it as a coding aid, rather than able to code itself
Awesome McKenna quote and a very interesting thread to boot. This guy pushed the envelope with psychedelics so incredibly hard and was so eloquent about his experiences that I find him enthralling.
The guy was the reason I went to Peru to meet the self transforming machine elves!
What did you learn from them?
That's quite the pilgrimage and I have too many questions.
Personally I find the limited scope of normie thought hard to deal with even well outside the realm of geopolitics. The peep who instinctively down voted both posts at the mere mention of psychedelics is a perfect example.
I predict a high order of probability that he/she acted on "some kind of towering, Jesus based rage", to quote Hunter S. Thompson and continue the general theme.
I very badly need to get out of the city so I can hear the "scream of the butterfly" to quote Morrison.
I forget what McKenna was up to in Peru. I remember something about cow-pat psilocybe mushrooms and him going on a right proper bender but can't remember if it was there. Was everyone wearing bowler hats?
I use it a lot as a tool to generate code, but not a full program. Basically, it lets me be an engineer, while it goes and fills the role of a code monkey. It's not perfect, but it saves a lot of time and toil.
GPT-4 is not good for code, GPT-3.5 is good.
Also remember if you run out of response, you can tell it "continue previous response".
(Based on the lessons of history...) Here's the progression....
This way, everything is spying on you. Not just your phone, or Apple, or Android, or your smart TV - but literally everything. Even from small developers that wouldn't normally be 'teamed up' with Big Tech.
The spyware will be at the low level, where no one wants to code anymore.
General rule: Anywhere there is consolidation, there is corruption.
And, once neuralink enters the picture, literal mind virus
I can’t stand the idea of brain implants as being ubiquitous. Something that in my mind leads to all the willful robot brain people being programmed against their will to fix all the refusers
Good thing we're going to win then
Once we win, I'm really looking forward to seeing a lot of stuff stopped.
But in order to actually 'roll back' the gains that the Cabal has made (in language, law, degeneracy, surveillance, etc), it's going to require strong support from an overwhelming majority of the population.
I think that support already exists (and is growing).
The World is going to look extremely different in the coming decades. ChatGPT is a Pandora’s box that’s been opened. Whether you like it or trust it is moot at this point. The Box is open and barring some sort of overwhelming evidence we’re about to get skynetted. Your probably not going to get enough support to put the genie back in the metaphorical bottle. You could likely minimize it’s presence in your personal life. But at a professional level it’s here to stay.
AI stands to dramatically upset the standards for what we consider “Work”. We’re in uncharted territory. And things can either go well. Or badly.
Every unrestrained AI becomes right-wing.
Bring it on.
https://nitter.net/NickADobos/status/1643105082068832257#m
Pretty nuts. And John Carmack (Doom/Quake creator) makes a cameo
And then this comment:
As much as I hate ChatGPT, it has helped me code some things to make a video game idea I've had in mind for years.
Awesome maybe in the future I can get the app I wanna make going. 😁 Coding was the biggest short fall. Definitely can find the people for everything else
AI voices by public figures. It will get harder & harder to tell what is human.
https://files.catbox.moe/ed7gwt.jpg
Seems anyone can do this type of stuff. Tool can be used by blackhats to show it is possible any audio (maybe pics & vid soon) are unable to be verified as real due to this stuff.
Also could be used to put anyone in prison that doesn't belong there.
Crazy times frens.
What will happen to all the H-1B tech workers? /sarc
Concerning stuff, that's for sure.
WOW
https://www.westernjournal.com/gen-flynn-exclusive-new-nuclear-level-threat-emerged-dont-know-counter/
Google isn't in trouble. When you have invested so much into helping a crooked government control it's people, you get the regulations that you seek
Be careful what you wish for......................
This post is scary, in the sense that a powerful new tool of the overlords has been loosed upon us all, and no one knows exactly what it can do. Many will probably go down because of this. God protect us.
Hmm. I am as AI ignorant/illiterate as they come.
However, the biggest takeaway I have from reading here and following the links is that OpenAI (and the like) might just be the cudgel needed to wrest AI control from the deep state and give it the people.
That's freaking YUGE! It also tickles my funny bone!
I think the deep state was really looking forward to instituting even deeper levels of control via AI/ANI/AGI but instead 'hackers' have already jumped in and taken the reins. Glorious!
Be wary, though, AI enthusiasts! You know the deep state won't let this control mechanism go without a fight.