My belief in vaccines has certainly been destroyed the past years, and it puts one in a troubled position when you go against the status quo and prevalent medical ideas.
I didn't get the covid vaccine, while my wife did when she was in residency. With another kid on the way in 8 months, I...no longer believe in vaccines. At all.
So are we as a community against all vaccines now? Or just the covid one?
The only route I see for myself is bring the evidence and sit down and have a discussion. I feel that if I so strongly believe this, and I let my child get vaccinated, then I am a fucking weak man, and have failed my child.
All thoughts appreciated.
NO VACCINES EVER FOR ANYONE...read/listen to RFK, Jr...
The following lists were posted by fsoawesome...thank you for your hard work... I just copied and pasted...
Documentaries
1976 Swine Flu Vaccine Injuries (CBS 60 Minutes)
1982 DPT - Vaccine Roulette
1998 Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
2004 Guinea Pig Kids (BBC)
2008 Vaccine Nation (Gary Null)
2009 Autism - Made in the U S A (Gary Null)
2009 Shots In the Dark - Silence on Vaccine
2009 The Swine Flu Profiteers
2011 The Greater Good
2013 Silent Epidemic - The Untold Story of Vaccines (Gary Null)
2014 About All Those Vaccines (Truthstream Media)
2014 Trace Amounts
2015 Bought - The Movie (Jeff Hays)
2015 We Don't Vaccinate - Myth and Reality of the Vaccination Campaigns
2016 Man Made Epidemic (Natalie Beer)
2016 VAXXED - From Coverup to Catastrophe (Andrew Wakefield)
2017 Deadly Deception - Exposing the Dangers of Vaccines (Gary Null)
2017 Injecting Aluminium
2017 The Pathological Optimist
2019 VAXXED 2 - The People's Truth (Andrew Wakefield)
2020 Fact Check - Polio Vaccines, Tetanus Vaccines, and the Gates Foundation (Corbett Report)
2020 Kennedy & Bigtree - The Interview (The Highwire Episode 151) The MMR - Autism Connection
2002 MMR - Every Parent's Choice (BBC Panorama)
2004 MMR - What They Didn't Tell You (Dispatches)
2005 Does The MMR Jab Cause Autism (BBC Horizon)
2009 Selective Hearing - Brian Deer and the GMC
2010 Autism Yesterday - Autism is Reversible HPV Vaccines
2015 Cause or Coincidence - HPV Vaccines Associated with Deaths & Disability (3D Investigates NZ)
2015 Cervical Cancer Vaccine - Is it Safe? (TV3 Ireland)
2015 The Vaccinated Girls - Sick and Betrayed (TV2 Denmark)
2017 Sacrificial Virgins - The Dangers of the HPV Vaccination
2018 Manufactured Crisis - HPV, Hype & Horror
Lecture from Lawyer Suing Merck for HPV Vaccine Fraud/Clip RFK explains his lawsuit against Merck
Lecture from Lawyer Suing Merck for HPV Vaccine Fraud/Gardasil - The Science - RFK Jr Explains his Lawsuit Against Merck
News Clips/Columbia - Hundreds of girls hospitalised after HPV vaccinations
News Clips/Mexico - Young girls Convulse on floor after Gardasil shot
Anthrax Vaccines
2003 Direct Order
2005 Beyond Treason
2017 Vaccine Syndrome
Pro-Vaccine Documentaries
2013 The Vaccine According to Bill Gates (ZED)
2015 The Polio Story - The Vaccine That Changed the World (BBC)
2015 The Vaccine War (PBS Frontline)
2015 Vaccination Wars (Unreported World S29E04)
2019 Vaccine Wars - The Conspiracy Files
Notable omissions that you might want to watch:
"Lethal Injection" 1 & 2. These documentaries I found interesting but a bit weird.
"Tyranny and Eugenics through Public Health, Bioterrorism, and Vaccines" by JanaESP is good but unfinished and very intense.
"Tolerance Lost" - Andrew Moulden's 6-hour epic on how he believes Mercury causes autism and gaze palsy... filmed shortly before he mysteriously died.
"Stanley Plotkin Under Oath" - the "godfather" of modern vaccinationists, caught off-guard and forced to testify in a custody trial by a savvy lawyer, admits to all sorts of nasty things
Oh wow, tweety51A! What a fantastic list of resources! I am so saving this. ThanQ taking the time to comprise this list.
You are the fucking man for this list. Saved.
Well thanks but I am XX...perhaps the original compiler was XY...so you are probably good...I am sorry the links aren't there but you get what you get when you post someone else's work....it is some great info...I agree...
killer post!
Amazing thank you
Very well stated!
My mind is made up. See the "I no longer believe in vaccines. At all.".
I can see that it came out worded as a group consensus, it was meant as an open question, in a rushed post at lunch time that I didn't review before posting. My real intent of the post was the spouse conflict and how people have persuaded others to their point of view.
Cheers and agreed.
Never ask permission to do the right thing.
I'm with you. I never got the flu shot because I don't hardly get the flu, but wasn't anti-vax until the Covid Jab, when they tried to force it on everybody. If the so-called vax works, then people who are jabbed are protected, right? Why would they be afraid of people who are not jabbed? And why do jabbed people need a mask, if the vax works? And why get so bent out of shape for a disease that has about the same deathrate as lightning, if you're in good shape and healthy? I'm preaching to the choir. The above is evidence.
Now I can see that the whole vaccine industry is a colossal sham and I'm 100% anti-vax. I'll never get another jab of any kind, even the tetanus shot. For tetanus, the argument is for the case when you step on a rusty nail or get a nasty cut. But in theory, you could get tetanus from a minor scratch if you are digging in your garden. I'm done. I have no trust in the medical industry, unless I cut off an appendage and need them to sew it back on, or I'm busted up in a car crash. They are still good for that.
You need to show her Steve Kirsh , he has damning evidence , what about RFK he has proven childhood diseases are poison and kill and create diseases in kids ,,, take it from a mother who wasn’t awAke 29 years ago, like you are , , I watched it in real time , autism is a tertible situation to deal with , my daughter is 31 now and a baby like she was 29 years ago when they shot her up with the poison ! A woman I know has twin girls they’re 37 they were perfectly fine at two years old they were vaxxed they both spiked fevers one is a complete zombie doesn’t talk just wanders around the other one is like a 12 year old kid , they were both destroyed, they were born healthy twin daughters. I can go on and on ! When you have a child with autism you meet lots and lots of parents with the same battle most have all said the same… their children were perfectly healthy until they got the vaccines, this has already been proven so many times, very very sad that your wife doesn’t understand this, all vaccines for humans and dogs just keep money in the pharma system , Drs and vets live a lavish lifestyle all because of vaccines ,, it’s like an ins policy . My God protect your baby at all cost !
Ask your wife to read The Real Fauci. Show her the Children’s Health Defense website. Ask her to watch the Fall of the Cabal. Go onto Highwire, Del Bigtree’s website. He gives evidence that more babies die on the first day when they are born in the Untied States than any other country, including third-world countries. Vaccines cause that and SIDS. They are intended to depopulate and keep their customers sick. It’s a great business model. Good luck, and keep us posted!
Yes childrenshealthdefense.org as well as physiciansforinformedconsent.org
ThanQ!
Here's some food for thought...The Amish people don't vaccinate their children. Coincidently enough, Amish community has not seen the explosion of autism that the rest of the western world has seen.
The vaccine schedule for young children has grown exponentially over the last 20 plus years and surprise surprise, so has the autism rate in children. Now what could be the common denominator here???
Also, ironically enough, the Amish people were not affected by muh covid either and don't have an explosion in myocardial problems like we are seeing in the rest of the western world. You won't hear of Amish people dying suddenly or unexpectedly....unless their buggy gets hit by a drunk driver.
I'm no medical professional but conclusions can probably be drawn from this.
In the third largest Amish community in the US, I'd venture the Vax rate for Amish kids is over 60% (I've lived here 13 years and interact regularly with them) the county health departments target them heavily. Thankfully most didn't buy the covid nonsense though and only a few older folks took thise jabs.
That's a shame. The fact they are specifically going after them when they don't vax their kids is an even better reason not to get the it or any others until they can prove all of this shit is, as they love to say, "safe and effective". They literally want everyone on Earth infected with their poison.
I would say they can all be very dangerous. Start by watching the doc vaxxed. It is so sad when you see these adorable children who are learning to walk and talk, their eyes are so bright and alert. These children are on video. Then after the mmr shot, they have a reaction, such as fever, rash, convulsions. After spending some time in recovery from a side effect, they never come back. And then, people try to say that it is debunked that this shot has caused autism, when it is literally on film.
Also, the US has paid out billions in what is called vax court. So, obviously there is vax injury proof.
There is a reason that CNN doctor won't debate RFK Jr. on Rogans podcast for a million dollars. If there are experts who won't come to the debate, it should be a huge red flag.
There is a 2009 article in Huffington Post that exposes the CDC for falsifying flu death numbers. Because they didn't get enough people to get the flu vaccine, the cdc changed the flu deaths from 300 per year, to include all pnomonia no matter the reason. The flu deaths went from 300 in one year, to over 30k! I can post a link to that article when on a different computer later.
We already have control groups like those who don't vaccinate, and the amish, but for some reason you can never get people who supposedly are looking out for us, to give us some real truths.
We went from 3 vaccines to almost 80. This is crazy!
It is VERY hard to take your case to vax court...doctors generally will not support documentation that they are responsible for destroying a life...there are some who have benefitted but yes...it is you and me who are paying these settlements...not the vaccine companies who should be responsible for these injuries...thanks to President Reagan....
I wouldn’t say it was Reagan that was calling the shots.
Who was his Vice President again?
He could have vetoed and he didn't...absolutely suspect that Bush was veep...especially after Reagan was shot...who was in charge...nonetheless this is one of the WORST pieces of legislation EVER to have been passed....
I totally agree with everything you said, but Reagan was under duress to not do the right thing.
No need to simp for Reagan.
If I had the information when I had children that I do now, I would never vaccinate them. My 2 grandchildren were born at home, 4 and 6, have never been vaccinated and perfectly healthy. It's not worth the risk. At least delay them until they are older. God gave us an immune system for a reason.
I was a registered nurse: 43 in hospital, and 4 years inout-patient. 1994 I was strongly encouraged to take the hepatitis B vax; with the 3rd shot I suffered permanent vocal cord damage. This was when I began to get suspicious. After 2010 we were strongly encouraged to take the yearly flu shot, I declined. Then they started requiring masking, if you refused the flu shot. I worked around it, I won’t tell you how, but I was not going to take the flu shot nor mask. 2021 the hospital system mandated the Covid and flu shot and wanted us to sign a release that our vax status could “be shared with any entity to further their business model.” I refused and retired 2 months early. With the increase in childhood vaccines and increase in autism, if I had it to do over, I would never vax my children.
Thank you for your standing your ground for what was right. I'm in the medical field too and thought I was going to lose everything.
How fair was it for health care systems to fire workers, hire unvaxed travel nurses, and now those who got vaxed are being worked to death with unsafe patient:nurse ratios? It isn’t only nurses, but also radiology techs, etc. For me, it wasn’t a hard choice because I had months ago told my boss I was retiring at the end of 2021. I just left 2 months earlier. For the younger workers, it was a more difficult decision. But if you are dead or seriously injured, you wouldn’t be working to pay those bills anyhow. No employer has the right to control your body and I hope those who got the Covid shot sue them all into oblivion. They were being coerced and without full disclosure of side effects.
Here's one that might get her to consider not vaxxing the little one:
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/vaccines-cause-autism
Best wishes waking your wife up on this topic.
Thank you friend
100000% against all vaccines.
Yup after listening to RFK on JRE I am convinced as well.
It took RFK? Damn, you are late to the party lmao
Other than rabies idk...
Nothing. Not even the "vitamin" shot. Not one thing.
Edit: I used to believe, I'm a biochemist. Then some chan and coat things made me look harder and, what do you know, there no proof of a virus of any sort ever having been isolated. Ever.
Watch this together. This is some of the most compelling testimony I've ever seen regarding vaccine safety. This is Aaron Siri of legal firm Siri and Glimstad. His firm has represented Informed Consent Action Network in several cases against government health organizations. They were responsible for getting the V-Safe data from the government. They were also responsible for getting all the Pfizer data which the government wanted to hide for 75 years. They know all the tricks our government plays, and he lays them out expertly in this video.
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/aaron-siri-gives-testimony-on-the-floor-of-arizona-state-senate/
I want people to know that there are homeopathic vaccines...
Check out Newton Laboratories in Conyers, GA
https://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/all-natural-homeopathic-immunizations-homeoprophylaxis-is-a-proven-alternative-to-vaccines#image-11300_featured
You don't have to buy from the deepstate but here's a good read by Thomas Cowan: https://www.amazon.com/Vaccines-Autoimmunity-Changing-Childhood-Illness/dp/1603587772
They're all bullshit. Filled with poison and heavy metals. If they cured you, they wouldn't give them to you.
Be positive, look into boosting a child's immune system. Learn about childhood diseases, what causes them (cases went down when sanitation improved) and what cures them, plus how they affect the immune system (lifetime immunity and such). Look at the stats, what is the risk catching one of these diseases (most are mild cases) vs. the health issues people have now (tons of auto-immune issues). What is the risk of the scary childhood diseases of the past vs. the never-ending, ever-rising health scares now (cancer, diabetes, extreme allergies, etc, etc.)
Look into delaying for 6mths, then 1 year, then 2 year, then...dragging it out gives your child longer and longer to build a strong immune system before adding vaccinations to the mix.
Time is on your side if you can convince your wife to at least delay.
I had this argument with my wife. 1000 cases a year of measles VS a 1 in 50 chance of autism. Do the math. 1000 cases a year VS 500,000 kids with autism. You cannot logic your way out of an emotional argument I have heard from a smart person.
Get RFK Jr's book about Fauci and the covid vaxx - non- vaxxi. It's VERY info intensive with tons of footnotes on where he gets his info. That's a start. Then check out what he has to say on childhood vaccines. I think the program now is something like 78 vaccines by the time they're six. Really? Did you have anywhere near that number of vaccines as a kid? No. No, you didn't. Many, many older folks will tell tales of getting chicken pox, measles, etc. and living to tell the tale about it. Sure, if we had absolutely fool proof vaccines that had no ill side effects that could prevent people getting those diseases, then why not? But autism, and now sids are linked to vaccines. 70 some chemical cocktails going into little bodies and making big pharma rich ought to make anybody pause. Just do your research. You are well within you rights AND your responsibilites to do so. Your child will be depending on you. Congrats, by the way!
Parents had chicken pox parties when I was growing up...
LA Times even reported on that after parents on social media were speculating about Covid parties for their kids.
Contemplating a COVID party for your kids? It’s still a bad idea
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2022-01-07/covid-party-for-your-kids-still-a-bad-idea
Archived link - https://archive.ph/sLSOb
Just watched a video of Steve Kirsch talking about how the Amish are unvaccinated and have no autism, ADD and many other issues. That should be enough for anyone to want to look into it further - I mean really look into it, before giving it to your children.
My last vax was 2001. After that, I learned they are all poison. Wish I had never had any. They destroy your God-given immune system, cause SIDS, autism, auto-immune diseases, cancer, infertility and so on. They are a "soft kill" method used by God's enemies to murder his people.
C19 vax was designed to be particularly deadly.
As far as tetanus goes, I once read that the only WW2 soldiers who got tetanus had been vaccinated for it.
Weak men are not what families need to protect and provide for them.
Choose wisely. Good luck.
Get her to listen to the RFK JR episode on Joe Rogan’s show. She’ll have to rethink her position after that.
Look at the SIDS rate as it correlates with childhood vaccines.
It's your decision to make about your own health management. I, for one, have decided since this pharmaceutical nightmare to be skeptical of all vaccines now. I didn't get the covid "vaxx" and starting last year simply stopped taking flu shots. I am very healthy for my age and have boosted my immune system. Throughout the entirety of the covid hoax, I have not been sick once, with the exception of a sinus infection when the pollen was really bad this spring.
Your mileage may vary...there are too many variables for one person to give another advice about their health management. But what is working for me (and my wife too) is doing a daily regimen of immune system boosters and avoiding any more injections from the now-discredited medical industry.
[THEY] have a LONG way to go before I will ever trust them again.
Against all vaccines.
Absolutely.
I have been anti flu vaccine from when they started giving them.
Something about how they were pushing them so hard every year, gave me pause. My gut said, "No Way". I didn't really have any thought on why, only that I didn't trust the way they were pushing them.
For the exact same reason, I stood firm against the COVID vaccine. Only they're pushing campaign was on STERIODS. No way.
Now I am so glad I listened to my gut.
Now I am suspicious of all medication. Don't think for one minute that they just all of sudden came up with the idea of poisoning people in 2020. I would bet our government has been poisoning us since 1945 or earlier.
Tell her to break open an original mercury thermometer and ingest the mercury. When she refuses, show her the definition of thimerosal and what it’s used for. Then ask her why she’d be opposed to ingest mercury but is quite comfortable injecting it without doing any research.
Once you’ve made your point, bring up RFK Jr speaking explicitly about thimerosal. Let her watch it (better yet let her watch all of his joe Rogan interview). If she’s not at least asking questions by that point, present her divorce papers
The pressure from the media always vastly outweighs the science.
The concept of vaccines is not remotely new, it's a very old theory, like using leaches.
The difference in the past 50 years has been in the marketing. It's all marketing, actual science, as in double blind studies, doesn't exist. Same as doctors telling everyone smoking is good for you, not the scientific method in action.
The COVID thing didn't change the way vaccines are created ethically, or how the media engine works, it was just bold in it's method of poisoning you so a lot more people are noticing.
Autism rates, cancer rates, vaccine schedules ever growing, it's not all a coincidence.
I've always been against shots, more do to the fact I hate needles, but now after this covid BS, it's a wrap. I'm never getting any vaccine for anything ever again.
God help any doctor/nurse that administers one against my will while I'm out cold. Knock on wood
(((Big hugs))) You know what is the right thing to do. Many here have given you sage advice (with stats, facts, etc). Please pray to the Good Lord and ask for his guidance and strength. I will keep you and yours in my daily prayers.
First, I think good on you for advocating on behalf of your child…which you should do regardless of the vax consensus here or anywhere else. Having said that, I was never anti vax in the sense of all vaccines until the Covid vax mandate which caused me to dig in and research them all. My adult kids had all their childhood vaccines but now that they are having kids of their own, I would caution them to at least slow down on the schedule and eliminate certain vaccines associated with birth (like hepatitis) altogether. Keep in mind that even more aware Normies are asleep when it comes to the things they themselves have had without issue. At this point I won’t even vaccinate my cat for feline leukemia or rabies. But it’s taken me 55 years, a plandemic, and a stolen election to get here.
At the age of 12, I experienced a near-death reaction to a Tetanus shot, going into Anaphylactic shock within seconds. This incident led my mother to decide against any further vaccinations for me. As an adult, I delved into vaccine research and found concerns about their safety, including not vaccinating my dogs except for rabies due to legal requirements.
I'm thankful that my stepsons, aged 15-20, heeded my advice on vaccination choices. Their parents allowed them to decide, and my eldest stepson even discreetly navigated a situation in EMT school where vaccination was mandated but not verified, safeguarding his firefighting/medic career. The requirement has since been lifted.
I am not vaccinated myself, but my husband chose to get vaccinated for Covid. Ultimately the choice is yours if you want to trust other vaccines. This is just my personal experience.
Honey, if all the other kids are vaccinated, then they're unable to pass our kid any viruses anyway, right?
Agree. I have become 💯 against all jabs (but I also have Vax injured kids from childhood jabs) I'd already fought the battle and won, although in theory hubby is 💯 pro all jabs except covid jabs. He doesn't understand Vax theory, he refuses to look at anything other than cdc and govt/msm/pharma data that they are safe and effective. He even thinks using aborted fetal cells is fine since it's in the past and refuses to acknowledge that babies continue to be murdered for their cell.lines, as new cell.lines are in development. He refuses to acknowledge that vaccines kill anf maim, and even if they do, the good outweighs the carnage. Vaccinescausesids has loads of info on GAW, also highly recommend The Truth about Vaccines, Vaxxed, anything from Children's Health Defense
Sadly if your wife is covid vaxxed any future children are.likely already damaged permanently, even if they survive and the miscarriage/stillbirth rate has gone up significantly since the jabs.
Please fight for your kids. She may disregard you but it's your duty to protect them as best you can.
I have never had a single vax and my kids are not vexed at all. All very healthy. Non of the vaxxes are necessary.
PLUMBERS ARE THE REASON FOR THE ERADICATION OF MOST DISEASE, NOT VACCINES. I yell this from the mountains, but people think I am biased. Which is possible.