If my meme-stock portfolio works out, I'm going to fund Auto-shop, Carpentry, Computer Science, and Home Classes at the local High School. My wife works there now and most of the kids are disinterested in the crap curriculum provided.
Please consider teaching at a home school cooperative, too! You'll find engaged families, kids who are better at time management, well behaved and respectful!
Depends on the school district and what they are able to offer students. Local high school offers welding certification as well as certification in pharmacy technician and intro level nursing. There are others, found in the career and technology education section. Most students choose one of those areas to follow through high school.
I have an interview for a teaching position at the high-school. Never in a million years would I have thought about teaching but I just happened to bump into a lady and was asking if they were hiring for maintenance in their facility. After telling her I am an electrician by trade but know pneumatics, hydraulics, mechanical, welding etc. she started picking my brain asking me how I am with teenagers and other stuff. Come to find out they're starting a huge vocational program for kids who don't plan on college.
I'm in a very red part of the state and the kids want to be blue collar so I may have found my calling. I'm in my early forties so I think 20 years teaching would be a great way to get a retirement, make the world better and not have to beat up my body. I always feel bad seeing guys on jobsites still swinging a hammer after sixty.
The vocational classes are the ones that the high school students enjoy and work the hardest at learning! Go for it! I just recently retired from teaching high school (29 years -science). The more hands on and real life you make your class the more they will work and enjoy it. I’m from a very red part of Texas.
I never got any B,C or D's in high-school, my transcript was straight A's and F's. I never missed shop class or science among others but it was very apparent to all my teachers that I was very intelligent but only showed it when I cared about a subject. I've done every drug you can imagine and I'm a recovering alcoholic. I was rebellious student and apprentice that took WAY longer than most to grow up.
I was offered $45 an hour with $160 a day per diem to go to Jackson Hole Wyoming for a 6 month project. I know the temptation of staying in a Hilton making 10k a month and as much as I'd like to believe that I'd get a VRBO in the sticks and just fly fish and explore Yellowstone in my spare time I'd probably end up partying and chasing women.
I prayed, meditated and asked those with more wisdom for their thoughts. Most everything pointed towards finding steady work here to start rebuilding a life. I started asking myself what I can do to make a real difference because wiring ski lodges and shopping malls isn't exactly a significant contribution to society. I think my path crossed with that lady for a reason. There's honor in passing knowledge to the next generation and I was the laziest, wildest, most rebellious shithead teenager and young adult of my generation, who better than me to teach these kids? I already know every trick in the book.
I'm gonna take it if they offer it. Even the low salary isn't a problem because I'd eventually end up with a pool of slave labor lol. Give the best students a job after graduating and turn them into a badass journeyman as I contract on the side... or start a staffing agency getting them fitted with the right contractor in a suitable trade for their personality.
Great perspective! I hope it works out for you. Lots to be said for teachers that have actual real like experiences and skills.
I know a guy that used to steal cars, wreck them for fun, didn't care about school and fought people just for fun.
He learned from his mistakes and is putting 150% into making sure his 4 kids DON'T go down the path he did. His kids are super polite, honor roll, and do their chores willingly......or else. 😉
Having kids calmed down a lot of my friends and family, I was too selfish and there was a tragedy involving the only girl I'd have had children with. Kinda kicked off my drinking and "what does it matter" phase of my life. Dealing with a bunch teenagers might be atonement for my sins kek! Lord knows I was a pain in the ass.
Some of our area schools do have trades programs but in general most do not. Compare to Germany, where for decades, you choose by 5th grade whether you are doing a trade or doing college. I do not agree with Germanys stance on homeschooling however, so not holding them up as the best model, just that they do highly encourage trades.
In our district there is a good "skills center", auto, carpentry, hvac, masonry, plumbing. They provide a way for apprenticeships in those fields and even do sellable work.
"spawn of a Beelzebub egg in Satan's shit" 😄 And here I thought you were referring to the renegade...
I must say, your descriptive powers are truly remarkable as I've noticed over time. I have a feeling you're going to be a very happy anon once these evil beasts start being publicly exposed, swept up and removed from polite society and the "Cleanup On Aisle 17!" begins in earnest. (Perhaps less of a "cleanup" and more of a "Phoenix rising from the ashes" at the rate we're going?)
SIL went to a trade school rather than high school. Took the HVAC program. He’s 26 and making around $100K. He owns his house outright, no debt except a car loan.
A Master’s Degree in Non-Binary Early Diversity Ecological Education and Grooming pays what? Is a Sociology degree worth $250K in student loans?
Haha! Stupid people pursuing stupid degrees will never be out of debt nor own a home.
The high school in our district has 2 trade schools as part of the campus, it is limited to car mechanics and logging, forestry. I wish they extended it to nursing and electrician, maybe they will someday. The mechanics part is cool, the garage I go to hires apprentices, and many of those boys went on to start their own business. Logging is difficult because the machinery alone is prohibitive, and the focus now is on pulp wood and chipped wood. Everyone is wanting pellet stoves, and pellets are coming from Canada. Pellets can be made from corn waste, weed trees,etc. I think nursing could be taught through High School, as a trade, and by graduation the students could take the exam.
yeah... but in American schools the kids can social media better than any other country!!! and be alphabet people better than the rest of the world combined!!
It is because the DS wants to emphasize college to: take more of your money, to indoctrinate our kids so they adopt Leftist ways & disagree with their parents (division of the family and loss of respect for parents), introduce kids to drugs (if HS didn’t do it already) and sex outside of marriage (loss of morality). In the 1950’s and through the late 1960’s schools still had shops to teach woodworking, etc. I think we will see that we will revert to this again, out of need. Welders are hard to find. They could teach medical coding, offer STNA certificates, cosmetology, food service, basic accounting. Stop study halls and replace with a skills course. All children must no cursive, how to balance a check book, etc.
The public school system failed me. It let me drift through unchallenged and without direction, fueling the idea that my talent in artwork would carry me through life. Granted, my parents could have expressed more concern as well. I worked many jobs and eventually fought my way from the shop floor into an engineering department in the manufacturing industry. Im still vastly underpaid for the programming, imaging, and and automation skills/knowledge ive developed but this appears to be my lot in life. Do not trust the system to prepare your children. I won't and don't.
I am on the Way Back Machine. Way back in 1950s they had 4 educational paths. General Ed, Vocational Ed, General College Prep, and Academic College Prep. General Ed was for housewives or secretaries. You took the basics freshman year, then
you started to hone in on what you were going to do. Vocational Ed taught you different skills. In the Freshman year you learned basics of everything, then started to specialize in later years.
Because Germany is still a country that invests in its population. They are very old fashioned and far behind countries like the USA who use schools to brainwash their young people into cutting their genitals off.
In my daughter's school she had to take either choir or play an instrument. She doesn't like we either of these classes. She also has to take Spanish, German, and French. She said she doesn't care about any of these languages. Why is she forced into crappy classes? She's in a charter school but to me it's a hippie communist school. Wasting her education with crap. I cannot afford private schooling. I have tried and looked into benefit programs. I just make too much money but not enough to pay for private schooling. Each child would cost 8,000 dollars per year. So my children suffer. I just don't know how to get them a good education. Our school /education system sucks.
If students had to learn a trade before going to college, like they do in Germany, they would be able to be self-sustaining in college (or not go if they can earn enough in their trade). It would solve a lot problems.
I went to high school in the late 60s early 70s. I enjoyed all my votech classes, and even though I knew I was going to college....I'm glad I took classes in metal working, carpentry and auto shop, and saw there was an opportunity for my class mates, who weren't going to follow an academic path, to learn valuable skills. Years later I saw that Votech was being dismantled and knew a generation of students would not have the opportunity to learn a trade. I still, to this day, curse those decision makers for robbing millions of students from learning a life skill. A paux on their houses.
I loved auto & wood shop when I was in high school. However, teachers today are more concerned about teaching young children how to masterbate & change their sexuality while demanding us normies think that is ok.
Why? Because our schools don't exist to educate our children. They stopped doing that years ago. Ever since the 1960's when radical Marxists took over the college campuses with a vengeance, the goal of education shifted from learning how to think to being indoctrinated with ideologies about what to think. The elevation of the "social sciences" above physical science, mathematics, and even the profession of teaching itself took place. The Marxist agenda of destroying America from within took root through the open doors of young minds by leftist "professors" that gladly pocketed money printed by the government they hated and preached against.
Those that learned to emulate their professors were pushed forward and encouraged to become teachers themselves so that the process of indoctrination could begin in high school or even earlier. Others who exhibited leadership skills were encouraged to become administrators within the educational system. From there they would play a vital role of employing fellow leftists in public schools across the country.
Over the ensuing years we watched each successive generation of teachers being less employable outside of education. With no other marketable skills, they were employed by the schools to further erode and dumb down students to their level of ideology. Like making copies on a bad copier and repeating the process over and over, the final result is what you see today. Students with no ability to read, write, compute, or think. 1 plus 1 is no longer 2. Rather, it's what you want it to be.
Your grades are based on skin color not knowledge. Your ability to move ahead is not based on individual merit, it's based on your victim status as defined by leftist thinking. In spite of the fact that America spends more money per pupil than any other country on earth, the ability of college age students ranks lower than many third world nations. Why is that?
Because the money being poured into education doesn't go toward education, it goes to salaries of these leftist administrators and teachers. And like those from the 1960's before them, they have no problem pocketing money printed by the country they collectively hate. It confirms their thesis that Americans are fools. Who else would be stupid enough to pay them to spout nonsense? Certainly, nobody else seeking employable people.
So why don't schools have paths to apprenticeships? That would mean these teachers lose their power to indoctrinate. Young people would actually learn something of value, something that could give them a means to provide for themselves rather than wait for a government handout. The only apprenticeship currently hat might be successful would be one aligned with teaching so as to perpetuate the fraud being conducted against the American public called "education".
The best thing that could happen to education today is a complete demolishing of our public schools after eighth grade. For each of the ensuing four years, students should be given two 5 month internships into fields that interest them. After 8 internships they should have a much better idea of what they like, what they're good at and possess a maturity that current high school graduates sorely lack. They and their parents would be better equipped to make decisions about their future direction. The country and the students would be far better off as a result.
And what about those displaced leftist teachers and administrators? They should be given the option of either one-way tickets to the leftist country of their choice or be employed to pick up trash and dog crap from our public spaces at minimum wage.
I went to college and got a degree, but if I had a "do over" I would have definitely considered learning a trade. A LOT of companies I've dealt with are having a shortage of machinists, maintenance techs, etc.
That implies that schools are meant to help, the reality is they are brainwashing daycares
Why? Because they don't want a competitive America. So their trying to raise a bunch of brainless yes people.
They used to have voc ed and shop etc. in school, as well as home econ.
If my meme-stock portfolio works out, I'm going to fund Auto-shop, Carpentry, Computer Science, and Home Classes at the local High School. My wife works there now and most of the kids are disinterested in the crap curriculum provided.
Please consider teaching at a home school cooperative, too! You'll find engaged families, kids who are better at time management, well behaved and respectful!
Depends on the school district and what they are able to offer students. Local high school offers welding certification as well as certification in pharmacy technician and intro level nursing. There are others, found in the career and technology education section. Most students choose one of those areas to follow through high school.
I have an interview for a teaching position at the high-school. Never in a million years would I have thought about teaching but I just happened to bump into a lady and was asking if they were hiring for maintenance in their facility. After telling her I am an electrician by trade but know pneumatics, hydraulics, mechanical, welding etc. she started picking my brain asking me how I am with teenagers and other stuff. Come to find out they're starting a huge vocational program for kids who don't plan on college.
I'm in a very red part of the state and the kids want to be blue collar so I may have found my calling. I'm in my early forties so I think 20 years teaching would be a great way to get a retirement, make the world better and not have to beat up my body. I always feel bad seeing guys on jobsites still swinging a hammer after sixty.
The vocational classes are the ones that the high school students enjoy and work the hardest at learning! Go for it! I just recently retired from teaching high school (29 years -science). The more hands on and real life you make your class the more they will work and enjoy it. I’m from a very red part of Texas.
I never got any B,C or D's in high-school, my transcript was straight A's and F's. I never missed shop class or science among others but it was very apparent to all my teachers that I was very intelligent but only showed it when I cared about a subject. I've done every drug you can imagine and I'm a recovering alcoholic. I was rebellious student and apprentice that took WAY longer than most to grow up.
I was offered $45 an hour with $160 a day per diem to go to Jackson Hole Wyoming for a 6 month project. I know the temptation of staying in a Hilton making 10k a month and as much as I'd like to believe that I'd get a VRBO in the sticks and just fly fish and explore Yellowstone in my spare time I'd probably end up partying and chasing women.
I prayed, meditated and asked those with more wisdom for their thoughts. Most everything pointed towards finding steady work here to start rebuilding a life. I started asking myself what I can do to make a real difference because wiring ski lodges and shopping malls isn't exactly a significant contribution to society. I think my path crossed with that lady for a reason. There's honor in passing knowledge to the next generation and I was the laziest, wildest, most rebellious shithead teenager and young adult of my generation, who better than me to teach these kids? I already know every trick in the book.
I'm gonna take it if they offer it. Even the low salary isn't a problem because I'd eventually end up with a pool of slave labor lol. Give the best students a job after graduating and turn them into a badass journeyman as I contract on the side... or start a staffing agency getting them fitted with the right contractor in a suitable trade for their personality.
Great perspective! I hope it works out for you. Lots to be said for teachers that have actual real like experiences and skills.
I know a guy that used to steal cars, wreck them for fun, didn't care about school and fought people just for fun.
He learned from his mistakes and is putting 150% into making sure his 4 kids DON'T go down the path he did. His kids are super polite, honor roll, and do their chores willingly......or else. 😉
Having kids calmed down a lot of my friends and family, I was too selfish and there was a tragedy involving the only girl I'd have had children with. Kinda kicked off my drinking and "what does it matter" phase of my life. Dealing with a bunch teenagers might be atonement for my sins kek! Lord knows I was a pain in the ass.
You will make a very wise teacher. I hope you get the job, our kids need people who care about their futures.
Some of our area schools do have trades programs but in general most do not. Compare to Germany, where for decades, you choose by 5th grade whether you are doing a trade or doing college. I do not agree with Germanys stance on homeschooling however, so not holding them up as the best model, just that they do highly encourage trades.
In our district there is a good "skills center", auto, carpentry, hvac, masonry, plumbing. They provide a way for apprenticeships in those fields and even do sellable work.
They used to, at least here in the UK. Then spawn of a Beelzebub egg in Satan's shit aka Tony Blair came along.
"spawn of a Beelzebub egg in Satan's shit" 😄 And here I thought you were referring to the renegade...
I must say, your descriptive powers are truly remarkable as I've noticed over time. I have a feeling you're going to be a very happy anon once these evil beasts start being publicly exposed, swept up and removed from polite society and the "Cleanup On Aisle 17!" begins in earnest. (Perhaps less of a "cleanup" and more of a "Phoenix rising from the ashes" at the rate we're going?)
Our schools are not for education.
SIL went to a trade school rather than high school. Took the HVAC program. He’s 26 and making around $100K. He owns his house outright, no debt except a car loan.
A Master’s Degree in Non-Binary Early Diversity Ecological Education and Grooming pays what? Is a Sociology degree worth $250K in student loans?
Haha! Stupid people pursuing stupid degrees will never be out of debt nor own a home.
Because their job is to teach people to follow instructions and trust the "authorities"
The high school in our district has 2 trade schools as part of the campus, it is limited to car mechanics and logging, forestry. I wish they extended it to nursing and electrician, maybe they will someday. The mechanics part is cool, the garage I go to hires apprentices, and many of those boys went on to start their own business. Logging is difficult because the machinery alone is prohibitive, and the focus now is on pulp wood and chipped wood. Everyone is wanting pellet stoves, and pellets are coming from Canada. Pellets can be made from corn waste, weed trees,etc. I think nursing could be taught through High School, as a trade, and by graduation the students could take the exam.
yeah... but in American schools the kids can social media better than any other country!!! and be alphabet people better than the rest of the world combined!!
It is because the DS wants to emphasize college to: take more of your money, to indoctrinate our kids so they adopt Leftist ways & disagree with their parents (division of the family and loss of respect for parents), introduce kids to drugs (if HS didn’t do it already) and sex outside of marriage (loss of morality). In the 1950’s and through the late 1960’s schools still had shops to teach woodworking, etc. I think we will see that we will revert to this again, out of need. Welders are hard to find. They could teach medical coding, offer STNA certificates, cosmetology, food service, basic accounting. Stop study halls and replace with a skills course. All children must no cursive, how to balance a check book, etc.
The public school system failed me. It let me drift through unchallenged and without direction, fueling the idea that my talent in artwork would carry me through life. Granted, my parents could have expressed more concern as well. I worked many jobs and eventually fought my way from the shop floor into an engineering department in the manufacturing industry. Im still vastly underpaid for the programming, imaging, and and automation skills/knowledge ive developed but this appears to be my lot in life. Do not trust the system to prepare your children. I won't and don't.
I am on the Way Back Machine. Way back in 1950s they had 4 educational paths. General Ed, Vocational Ed, General College Prep, and Academic College Prep. General Ed was for housewives or secretaries. You took the basics freshman year, then you started to hone in on what you were going to do. Vocational Ed taught you different skills. In the Freshman year you learned basics of everything, then started to specialize in later years.
South Mountain High School in Phoenix, AZ has an aviation magnet program, as well as other great classes.
Because Germany is still a country that invests in its population. They are very old fashioned and far behind countries like the USA who use schools to brainwash their young people into cutting their genitals off.
In my daughter's school she had to take either choir or play an instrument. She doesn't like we either of these classes. She also has to take Spanish, German, and French. She said she doesn't care about any of these languages. Why is she forced into crappy classes? She's in a charter school but to me it's a hippie communist school. Wasting her education with crap. I cannot afford private schooling. I have tried and looked into benefit programs. I just make too much money but not enough to pay for private schooling. Each child would cost 8,000 dollars per year. So my children suffer. I just don't know how to get them a good education. Our school /education system sucks.
If students had to learn a trade before going to college, like they do in Germany, they would be able to be self-sustaining in college (or not go if they can earn enough in their trade). It would solve a lot problems.
I went to high school in the late 60s early 70s. I enjoyed all my votech classes, and even though I knew I was going to college....I'm glad I took classes in metal working, carpentry and auto shop, and saw there was an opportunity for my class mates, who weren't going to follow an academic path, to learn valuable skills. Years later I saw that Votech was being dismantled and knew a generation of students would not have the opportunity to learn a trade. I still, to this day, curse those decision makers for robbing millions of students from learning a life skill. A paux on their houses.
I loved auto & wood shop when I was in high school. However, teachers today are more concerned about teaching young children how to masterbate & change their sexuality while demanding us normies think that is ok.
different ethnic mix ---- would reject the idea
Convince them and it might work.
Why? Because our schools don't exist to educate our children. They stopped doing that years ago. Ever since the 1960's when radical Marxists took over the college campuses with a vengeance, the goal of education shifted from learning how to think to being indoctrinated with ideologies about what to think. The elevation of the "social sciences" above physical science, mathematics, and even the profession of teaching itself took place. The Marxist agenda of destroying America from within took root through the open doors of young minds by leftist "professors" that gladly pocketed money printed by the government they hated and preached against.
Those that learned to emulate their professors were pushed forward and encouraged to become teachers themselves so that the process of indoctrination could begin in high school or even earlier. Others who exhibited leadership skills were encouraged to become administrators within the educational system. From there they would play a vital role of employing fellow leftists in public schools across the country.
Over the ensuing years we watched each successive generation of teachers being less employable outside of education. With no other marketable skills, they were employed by the schools to further erode and dumb down students to their level of ideology. Like making copies on a bad copier and repeating the process over and over, the final result is what you see today. Students with no ability to read, write, compute, or think. 1 plus 1 is no longer 2. Rather, it's what you want it to be.
Your grades are based on skin color not knowledge. Your ability to move ahead is not based on individual merit, it's based on your victim status as defined by leftist thinking. In spite of the fact that America spends more money per pupil than any other country on earth, the ability of college age students ranks lower than many third world nations. Why is that?
Because the money being poured into education doesn't go toward education, it goes to salaries of these leftist administrators and teachers. And like those from the 1960's before them, they have no problem pocketing money printed by the country they collectively hate. It confirms their thesis that Americans are fools. Who else would be stupid enough to pay them to spout nonsense? Certainly, nobody else seeking employable people.
So why don't schools have paths to apprenticeships? That would mean these teachers lose their power to indoctrinate. Young people would actually learn something of value, something that could give them a means to provide for themselves rather than wait for a government handout. The only apprenticeship currently hat might be successful would be one aligned with teaching so as to perpetuate the fraud being conducted against the American public called "education".
The best thing that could happen to education today is a complete demolishing of our public schools after eighth grade. For each of the ensuing four years, students should be given two 5 month internships into fields that interest them. After 8 internships they should have a much better idea of what they like, what they're good at and possess a maturity that current high school graduates sorely lack. They and their parents would be better equipped to make decisions about their future direction. The country and the students would be far better off as a result.
And what about those displaced leftist teachers and administrators? They should be given the option of either one-way tickets to the leftist country of their choice or be employed to pick up trash and dog crap from our public spaces at minimum wage.
I went to college and got a degree, but if I had a "do over" I would have definitely considered learning a trade. A LOT of companies I've dealt with are having a shortage of machinists, maintenance techs, etc.