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"So far, almost nobody in the west fully comprehends the Oreshnik weapon system just demonstrated by Russia. Hat tip to Ted Postol, Scott Ritter and Brian Berletic, the only 3 people I've found so far who fully understand this."...(Very Interesting...👀) (twitter.com)
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– purkiss80 [S] 23 points 8 months ago +23 / -0

"I've done the math on the kinetic energy of the submunitions (using estimates for mass), and I've studied up on what's publicly known about these weapons so far. My conclusion? NATO is done. The west has no idea what just hit them. Russia's Oreshnik weapon system is checkmate for NATO and the USA. All U.S. aircraft carriers can be destroyed in minutes. All U.S. military bases, all underground bunkers, all ICBM launch sites, naval shipyards, etc., can be destroyed with NON-NUCLEAR kinetic energy via the Oreshnik. There are no active treaties (that I'm aware of) prohibiting this weapon system, and it doesn't destroy surrounding infrastructure or masses of civilians. It is a devastating, unstoppable surgical strike weapon that basically drops metal lightning out of the sky like Thor's Hammer or the comets of God. Nobody has any defense against it, and the range of these weapons, once mounted on intercontinental boosters, is global. The west must now either back off or go nuclear. They will probably choose to go nuclear out of desperation, be warned. Russia has just changed the course of warfare and achieved global dominance. NOBODY in the western press even has a clue. They are too stupid, too woke or too arrogant to realize what just happened. This is like playing chess with Putin and thinkin you might be competitive, then suddenly Putin's queen unleashes a flamethrower across the chess board and roasts all your pieces, setting them on fire. You thought you were playing "chess" but Putin was playing a different game called "flamethrower." It's that big of a deal."

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– Sadness 10 points 8 months ago +10 / -0

You thought you were playing "chess" but Putin was playing a different game called "flamethrower." It's that big of a deal.

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– eagledriver 4 points 8 months ago +4 / -0

AND THE US MILITARY BRASS JUST GOT THEIR BALLS SET AFIRE!!!!!!!! I do believe that PDJT "KNEW" about this and is ready to counter-act this threat...This man ALWAYS THINKS 3 MOVES AHEAD, LIKE IN CHESS, which I understand he is VERY GOOD AT!!!!! Just sayin'!!!!!

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– MaidInAmerica 9 points 8 months ago +9 / -0

Rods of God? wasn't that a thing nearly a decade ago?

"It is a devastating, unstoppable surgical strike weapon that basically drops metal lightning out of the sky like Thor's Hammer or the comets of God"

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– Baffled 5 points 8 months ago +5 / -0

Same basic concept, but much less expensive compared to a space-based satellite system. All the good stuff, much easier to build, at a small fraction of the cost.

Checkmate. Or in this case... flamethrower.

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– JustADirk 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Thought the exact same thing.

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– celticwhisper 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Way more than a decade ago but yeah. IIRC it was the Reagan era of the late cold war that spawned it.

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– TheHumanPrimer 16 points 8 months ago +16 / -0

...and more importantly, he never used it, never threatened with it and is only exposing it by being forced to show it. Left unprovoked, it would still be hidden away. This defines Putin in a different light. It will also define NATO.

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– TinkAnon 9 points 8 months ago +9 / -0

End NATO, hopefully.

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– yldngo 7 points 8 months ago +7 / -0

I give him props for litterally just dropping it instead of teasing about it.

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– purkiss80 [S] 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-reportedly-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-against-ukraine-what-we-know-so-far/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28dzvxjyjo

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– Sadness 10 points 8 months ago +10 / -0

Not quite an intercontinental ballistic missile, which we all heard about (ICBM) - that is an overstatement from Kiev. More like a intermediate-range ballistic missile. It certainly has a ballistic element to it, in that this word describes the trajectory. However, that description does not describe the launching in mid-flight of six subsidiary missiles, that in turn launch six guided missiles each. So 36 fully guided, 'swarm' missiles, coming in at Mach 10 or more.

The Hazel gives a new meaning to Deez Nuts.

And there are more variants already being made.

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– ScienceGuyWontComply 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

"...once mounted on intercontinental boosters.."

I think this was the point in regards to ICBM.

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– yeldarb1983 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

so something like an intermediate range MIRV?

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– dec3169 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

That's what they used. They can put the same things on ICBMs as well with little to no changes. The MIRV setup allows Multiple missiles on top of the IRBM or ICBM.

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– Sadness 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Yeah, but it is sort, kinda, like a double-instance-MIRV.

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– MatildaJ 7 points 8 months ago +7 / -0

I’m not sure who this guy is, but he has a good sized following and speaks on other podcasts of different military hardware. It would seem that he has researched this new weapon. This is his summary.

https://youtu.be/iL7Hb0fcpbU?feature=shared

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– BatteryBaron 8 points 8 months ago +8 / -0

Mike Adams has been on the scene for a long time. He was the first big voice I'm aware of to be cancelled/censored/banned way back in 2015, way before Alex Jones.

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– Rootcause 5 points 8 months ago +6 / -1

Yes Mike Adams has been on scene for a long time. What I don't like about him is that is tends to be an extreme doomer. To listen to him is to think that the world will end tomorrow. I no longer listen to him.

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– Papatriot12 4 points 8 months ago +5 / -1

Yep. He also waivers too much. He boasted about how didn't vote for Trump because he failed to denounce Israel's genocide. So he just threw his vote away and wrote in Dr Shiva. After the election he made a post about Dems counterfeiting ballots to push Trump under 50% popular vote. Like that's exactly why YOU ALWAYS VOTE!

One week he praises someone and the next he bashes them. If you don't listen everyday you'll be completely confused. If you listen every day your head will spin.

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– MalonLabe777 5 points 8 months ago +5 / -0

I have listened to Mike Adams for several years now...more so for the entertainment value, but recently his constant virtue signaling and his paralleling ego has forced me to stop almost entirely.

Mike's most recent ego trip has been his acquiring his license to be a minister? He has said over and over on his show that his knowledge of the Bible is minimal at best and now he does, what he calls, Bible Sermons? We all need to pray for Mike actually because his theology is straight from the pit of hell and he knows nothing of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He has said that all religions are legitimate and have a place in getting people to Heaven and worse yet, he has said repeatedly that the only way to get to Heaven is doing good, not sinning and working your way into Heaven! This is heretical teaching and Mike needs to just work his ranch and stay away from politics and preaching!

Again, I say he needs our prayers that God will open his eyes to the real Saving Gospel of Jesus Christ which teaches that we ARE saved through faith in the finished work of Jesus on the cross. We are NOT saved by works lest any of us should boast...

Almost everyone I have ever heard who consciously, knowingly and forcefully teaches Works Salvation, by definition believes that they are themselves sinless and that it's possible and required by God for Christians to not sin. For anyone to think we can live in this fleshly body and not sin is deceiving themselves or...as in Mike's case...has such an inflated ego and pride...that they indeed they sin not! Thinking we are above sin is pride and that's the worst sin of all!

We all sin...just as the Apostle Paul said in Romans 7:15..."For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I."

The reason we try to live for Christ and not sin is because we love Him and want to serve Him for the price He paid for us. We try not to sin, not so we can gain entrance into Heaven Mike...that's the whole reason for God's Son.

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– Papatriot12 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

I haven't listened to him lately. Only see his social media posts. But I agree 1000% He is in no way qualified to give "Bible Sermons". Why is he so quick to call himself an expert. It's off-putting and especially insulting to life-long Christians.

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– MalonLabe777 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Well said amigo!

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– RiverWolf 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Trust me, no Catholic believes they are sinless, but with the free gift of faith also comes grace to perform good works. Faith saves, but it’s a lived out every day anew faith, rather than a once saved you can never lose salvation. This is why St James said faith without works is dead, and St. Paul asked for prayers that he himself might not be lost. Work out your faith in fear and trembling (!)

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– MalonLabe777 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

I find it so unfortunate that no matter what the Biblical subject matter, the Church of Jesus Christ cannot come to agreement on literally ANYTHING! Even the foundational Christian beliefs that the early Church Fathers agreed on are regularly argued amongst brethren in today's modern Church!

This is what I say to everyone who teaches others that it is possible (once saved) to lose one's salvation. If (after you have accepted Christ's gift and His Sacrifice paid your sin debt) you can do something to lose your salvation, this by definition means that there's something that you must do to maintain your salvation...this is simply what is called "Works Salvation" and is anathema to our salvation being a gift from God through faith in the completed work of Jesus on the Cross. The Book of James was almost not included in the canon of Scripture because of his language with regard to "works" and the importance those works play in revealing the true nature of one's conversion experience. And that is what was determined to be James point...if we truly are saved, we have truly had a conversion experience, our lives will outwardly show it...and the only way this will be evident is by what we do. However, James NEVER says our works have anything more to do with our salvation than that.

We all have different encounters with Jesus. Some people come to Jesus after having lived lives of utter debauchery and by the grace of God are instantly freed from their sin and a radical change occurs. Some people receive Jesus early in life and get into the world in their later years...struggling the entire time with sin...only to return to their first love in their later years. The important thing to remember is if we believe in what Jesus did for us on Calvary and at some point make a decision to accept His GIFT (a true gift is always unconditional and in our case unmerited) of Salvation, we are continually washed in His blood because Jesus PAID our sin debt completely. Now if someone falls away completely and actually in their heart of hearts turns out to be an unbeliever, well, of course I would say that individual never really believed in the first place. Once a person truly humbles themselves at the foot of the Cross, I believe my Jesus is strong enough to keep hold of that person through life's ups and downs until the day of resurrection. There's nothing I can do to maintain my salvation...it's all Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross.

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– RiverWolf 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

I agree with you on the lack of unity among Christians — unfortunately it is possible to find someone taking virtually every possible position, among the 40,000+ different denominations.

Worse, this extends even to quite important doctrines impacting our basic understanding of salvation.

I realize you think you have no possibility of losing salvation, but that is not what most Christians believe, either currently nor historically.

St James’ epistle was and still is part of the canon of Gods word, and was unquestioned until Luther realized it clearly contradicted his faulty ideas regarding faith and grace.

What began during the so-called reformation were a bunch of false ideas regarding salvation, along with rejection of the teaching authority of ordained bishops united to the pope, with the dismaying result that each person becomes their own pope.

When Jesus founded His Church, he set it up to have power of the keys (binding and loosing), which included the power to authoritatively teach and interpret all teachings without mixture of error.

Rejecting that authority is precisely why we have disunity.

You mentioned the early Church fathers, and again, I agree — a way to make progress in unity is to study what the early Church taught — even before Constantine, there are Linus, Clement, Polycarp, Ignatius, the didache, and other early writing which shed light on what early Christians believed.

But nowhere among the Church fathers is the idea that faith is just an abstract decision, made once, with nothing on our part required.

Jesus own words all over the Gospels make it clear we are to believe, be baptized, obey the commandments and spend the time he gives us doing good and serving others, lest at judgement he say, depart from me…. You did not give me food, nor clothing, etc. cf the beatitudes, among many other examples.

St Paul mentions making up what is lacking in Christs sufferings (!) and asks for prayers lest, having preached, etc, he might still be lost (!)

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– MalonLabe777 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

So then, according to you, there's no such thing as grace and ultimately since we can do or not do something to lose our salvation...that means there are things we must do or not do to maintain our salvation...which means that Jesus death on the cross was meaningless. This is typical Catholic cult heresy although there are many Protestant Christians who also think you can lose your salvation.

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– deleted 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0
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– BigDaddy1reboot 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

He over hypes everything. In 2020 he said the Chinese were going to invade CA from Mexico with 300,000 troops, and there were warehouses full of Chinese weapons in SF.

It’s all audience driven for MONEY!!!!!!

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– polish_snausage 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

Yes... so much doom.

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Yes he dooms a bit but I think he only sounds like he's dooming. He's tight with Alex Jones and is therefore in Trump/Elons outer outer orbit. He knows more than he is letting on.

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– polish_snausage 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Mike Adams, I used to follow him until I couldn't take the dooming anymore.

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– MAGA_100X 7 points 8 months ago +8 / -1

These aren't as "new" as he thinks.

He's way behind on the discovery of these so-called "rods of God"

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– TinkAnon 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Sauce, s'il-vous-plaît.

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– DeepDMingDeep 6 points 8 months ago +6 / -0

I don’t have sauce, but the rods of god mounted via satellites is a longtime suspected secret govt project. Basically same thing as these Russian weapons, just already poised in orbit above them.

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– MAGA_100X 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

It's been criticized here, although likely with limited knowledge (and judgement).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_n1FZaKzF8

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– TinkAnon 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Doesn’t sound like the US really did anything. The Star Wars plan?? This quote was taken from a follow up post on X. “Physicist and weapons expert Dr. Ted Postol in fact was surprised to find that the Oreshnik weapon resembled a system he had envisioned and proposed 30 years ago at a high level meeting that no one took seriously as feasible. Follow his thinking over the last several days in these interviews: youtu.be/ks7xw5Fcxpw?si… youtube.com/live/h8LvIkGkf… youtube.com/live/Ka2gVAdvW…”

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– Sadness 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

We heard about the Rod of God back in Bush Sr's administration. The Americans were developing it, or so they said at the time. Never saw it in action though. Just big talk, and not much since then. Also, the world has changed.

TBH, I think that everything went down-hill because of stupid 'military interventions' based on lies. What did they manage to achieve? Iraq is only just beginning to scrape itself out of a hole after twenty years. Libya is a sh*tshow, and Afghanistan is reconstructing the Taliban as a legitimate force, who are negotiating with the Chinese, the Indians and the Russians to build roads and railways. Was that USA's intention - to keep out the 'others'? The excuse was that mysterious cloth-heads who supposedly flew aeroplanes into the Pentagon and twin-towers, were 'hiding' in Afghanistan. So, USA had to go in. Twenty years later, they 'had to leave'. What a mess.

Russia has just taken the Taliban OFF their terror-watch-list, BTW.

Just as USA makes enemies, Russia makes nice.

Also, throw in a good measure of succesive USA administrations putting all the research eggs in one basket, re: F35. It still hasn't managed to resolve itself.

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– BatteryBaron 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

They are new in that they've now been used in war. Nukes were being worked for a long time before demonstrated in war.

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– MAGA_100X 1 point 8 months ago +2 / -1

I understand, but in his bulletin yesterday, he said he just discovered the technology entirely

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

I'm a daily listener. He might have said that, but I don't recall. He did have several expert interviews with people who understand the technology

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– HeartofStone2 4 points 8 months ago +4 / -0

When did this happen?

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– purkiss80 [S] 9 points 8 months ago +9 / -0

First operational use The Oreshnik saw its first confirmed operational use on 21 November 2024, during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The missile was employed in an attack on Ukraine's PA Pivdenmash facility in Dnipro.

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– TinkAnon 8 points 8 months ago +8 / -0

Tell Biden Administration, C_A, bankers, NATO, military industrial complex and American traitors…end the proxy war with Russia. This is an order from “We The People!” Russia won.

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– artyjulia 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

Not to mention their DE weapons, they are truly terrible and have developing them since the 1940's. This is why Khrushchev banged his shoes on the UN's table telling everyone "We will bury you" he was referring to these weapons.

Leonid Brezhnev said that Soviet Russia has developed weapons that could destroy planets and even whole solar systems and wanted an international conference on these weapons, that went nowhere and only whetted the USA's appetite to get them for themselves.

There is a lot more to it than that, please read "Fer De Lance" by Tom Bearden for more about these horrific weapons. https://archive.org/details/beardenferdelance2ndednscalaremweapons8602www.cheniere.org/Bearden%20-%20Fer%20de%20lance%202nd%20Edn%20%28scalar%20EM%20weapons%2C%20_86-_02%2C%20www.cheniere.org%29/

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– JSSS 3 points 8 months ago +3 / -0

Well lets see the US created Space Force a while ago under DJT's first term. I live in Florida near the Cape and its almost non stop Rockets blasting off into space with undisclosed payloads. Dont think for one second there either isnt counter measures or a superior system already in place.

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– GeorgeMcPottyMouth 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Think that's bad ,we can destroy satellite's and Russia can too with a 5 gallon bucket of bolts/nails with a very small detonator.what's really frightening are the thousands of drones that can fly in the forests without hitting trees or crashing into each other that can kill a human in a nanosecond.The face of war has completely changed .

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– russiah 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Can’t the globalists leave Russia alone?

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– MAGA_100X 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

haha...

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– deleteme1234 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

An unsubjugated and strong Russia is incompatible with the one-world government project.

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– tchouk 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Neocon supremacy

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– TheVerboten1 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

I like to read Coffee and Covid substack (Jeff Childers, atty). His blog today seems to agree with this assessment. https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/unstoppable-tuesday-november-26-2024

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– Dildoman9002 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Lol health ranger thinks it's hard to understand the concept of really fast missiles.

It's like a missile, but way faster...so complex my brain can barely understand.

As if the US hasn't known and tested their own versions 50+ years ago plus ways to defend against them

People are still so naive these days it's pathetic.

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– kaizen777 2 points 8 months ago +3 / -1

I stopped listening to this guy as he is a self-proclaimed expert who is wrong, wrong, wrong. According to him, something like a decade ago California was to be a barren desert wasteland due to the drought, with nearly 100% of the population having fled due to life being unsustainable. Glad I didn't buy into the fearmongering and bought my house instead, gaining massive equity.

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– supertootsday 2 points 8 months ago +3 / -1

I stopped listening to him 3 years ago, and even during that time, I was only following briefly about the election being stolen. UP to that point I had stopped following him years prior to that as well. I can't explain it or provide receipts, but he gives me bad vibes. That being said, he's probably right about these weapon systems.

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– Bedminster 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

I think the US has this capability but is not playing it's hand. Kenitic weapons are not new to the US. Russia showed they actively have them in rotation. That is the game changer.

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– marvinthehaggler 1 point 8 months ago +2 / -1

There is the old(ish) story/myth of the "Rods from God". The idea of a satellite that has an on-board Rail Gun (Unreal Tournament bruvvas in the house!!!) that can fire tungsten rods down to the surface of the Earth at Mach 497 or whatever. It's definitely possible, and probably even exists, in a small way.

But this is Rods from the Next Town Over. It's a lot cheaper to prep and deliver. And delivers the same level of Oh My Fucking Gawd.

The amount of kinetic energy in this weapon is enough that you would assume it's a nuke.

It's that bad.

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– Moosemeadow 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Kaaaa💥POW

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– Hodar 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

A meteor doesn't need a warhead.

Don't think that Russia is the ONLY nation with Hypersonic weapons (Mach 5-25). China has them, and so do we.

To paraphrase Putin "Mach 5 or Mach 25; does it really matter"

You are going to be shot, with pinpoint accuracy with some caliber of rifle, does it really matter if the bullet is Mach 1 or Mach 2?

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– Revodude1 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

Slow your roll frens. First, you should realize that we have several varieties of similar weapons. Better. And yes we have the technology to intercept them, as well as do other things to them. A bunch of hype was thrown in by the Russians for good measure.

That said, it is an impressive kill mechanism, especially for non-hardened targets. Not well matched for appropriately hardened targets. Too fast is actually a problem. The back end of the weapon more or less passes the front end. Learned that from sled tests I commissioned. Shot one into a granite dome using a Pershing booster. The effect was impressive. I called it a range safety launch.

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