Yeah, years ago his name appears on the Epstein list.
Why are not more 'influencers' ...or you know - the FBI/Pam Bondi - screaming about this? (Oh right....)
I saw one comment that kinda seemed like a deflection at the time "Oh that is just the John Roberts host from Fox news....but considering how high profile most of the names on the list were - I would more believe a Supreme Court justice over a nobody news host as the 'John Roberts' in question.
And basically all of his actions as justice point to deep state globohomo pedo sympathies since he is not interested in justice.
Did you read the article? Essentially, the article is describing Roberts stepping in to ensure that things go Trump's way.
The "meddling" spin is by an MSM outlet that is decidedly putting an anti-Trump, anti-Roberts spin on their report.
I'm not saying I'm necessarily a fan of Roberts, but leaping to conclusions and succumbing to bias confirmation are constant risks when dealing with information, especially when touted by MSM / Corporate media operations.
What is your point when judge roberts is the same head of the supreme court who was responsible for ALL 11 FISA judges who allowed illegal spying on Trump!!! See https://x.com/catturd2/status/1908136700112474151
More comments below in this thread
Chief Justice John Roberts strong-armed his fellow Supreme Court judges into allowing him the key role in cases involving Donald Trump, leaked memos reveal.
The conservative judge took the lead in March’s case on whether states could remove the former president from their ballots over his role in the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
Roberts demanded a unanimous decision from the bench according to memos leaked to the New York Times.
Actually the elite research team and forum were not accepting of the spin and not remotely knee jerking... they were comparing what they have seen and saying fuck that! BRAVO!! What they were on about played out YET AGAIN a whole day later https://greatawakening.win/p/19Awy25zka/breaking-the-supreme-court-just-/c/
I read through the article. It's is very clearly an anti-Trump, anti-Roberts spin, describing all the actions Roberts did that ensured things went in Trump's favor.
But stoopid frogs (I hate to say, but what else can I say?) just read the headline, ignore that its from Fake News Media propaganda, and run with their biases.
I seriously question whether the top voted 4 or 5 comments in this thread have ANYTHING to do with the contents of the article itself.
While I agree with your point to a degree... now argue for us who have low reading capabilities that Roberts is not a suspect of going to pedo island, was not an allies with odumma on horrific things like odumma care, has not let down the MAGA movement over and over... so yes the fake news adds color to this article trying to spin it that in fact Roberts is all in MAGA and your criticizing peoples ability to read and discern... When posting perhaps I should have expressed this but someone would poo poo anyway!!
Well, I guess I'm not immune to knee-jerk reactions, either (as per my reaction to the commentary), but ...
look at the top comments here:
"He gets worse every year." How is supporting the Trump Agenda 'getting worse'? Zero connect with the content of the article, wholesale swallowing of the MSM headline narrative.
"I'll betcha he has been strong-arming Amy Coney Barrett." Strong arming Coney Barret to... support the Trump situation? Comment shows no connection with the article. Is strong arming Coney Barret to support Trump's agenda bad?
"How much longer will we have to put up with this guy?" Again, how is this comment in any way connected to the actual contents of the article?
Seems to me that exactly EACH of these comments comes from a place where the author read "Roberts" + "Exposes meddling" and just went from there. If so, how is this NOT a) reading the headline, b) ignoring the relevance of the source, and c) running with one's bias?
Ironically, each and every one of these comments would fit perfectly in an anti-Trump uber leftist normie forum. They all chime in - ignorantly or not - with the article's core premise (paraphrase):
Roberts is an as*hole because he's been pushing the SC in ways that actually support Trump instead of destroying him.
In a previous comment, I stated "I'm not saying I'm necessarily a fan of Roberts", indicating that I'm not asserting Roberts is our Darling. BUT I'd like to offer a devil's avocado here:
Being suspect is NOT an indictment or proof. Is it actually critical thinking to accept someone being suspect as rock solid proof (of whatever), and to then go from there?
To me, critical thinking is acknowledging one's suspicions, even opinions or conclusions, but also recognizing the limitations on knowing. Indicting pretty much anyone on the basis of opinion is what belongs in 1979 France, and at the Democrat (or Republican, for that matter) Party convention (where facts don't matter, facts are selected to achieve an outcome, and where neither actual law and order, or accountability, rule).
So there's that.
In my opinion, far too many people seem to do this, although I'm not saying anyone who is critical of Roberts is necessarily doing that. To be frank, I'm not as familiar with all the accusations against Roberts: specifically the connections with the Obama agenda (such as dumma care), but that's not really my point. It's that leap from "My opinion view" >>>>>>> To "This is a fact, and I'll act, make decisions as if it is a fact" that I think is very problematic for a movement that aspires to find and uphold the truth.
That's to origin of my comment. NOT that Roberts is some wonderful guy. Or even a good guy. It's "Jeepers, why do so many of us persist in letting random sources like MSM fake news manipulate us into certain types of behavior (accusation, emotional reactions, ignoring solid critical thinking, etc)?"
But now let's look at Roberts.
Here's my very limited opinion (based on limited knowledge around Roberts). It's just an opinion, and to some extent, would probably a working hypothesis when approaching anything factual about Roberts.
Roberts is almost certainly part of the Swamp system. He is a part of the Uniparty matrix, where so-called (fake) 'conservatives' are pitted against so-called (fake) 'liberals'. (I say fake liberals, because real liberalism is nothing like the Neo-Marxist ideologues currently labelled as 'liberals'.) He is/was very likely controlled to some extent, potentially through blackmail, BUT I also think its important that many people who start out with good intentions are blackmailed and taken down by the Satanic System. I.e. they become compromised, but still, on some level, may be trying to simply navigate and not be destroyed by the sh*t they got themselves into.
So, I think that there is some potential for Roberts to be someone who, though compromised, may simply be trying to save his own skin, and for that reason, even if he doesn't particularly agree with the Marxist agenda, for example, has played along and performed as expected by the Swamp system: to be the 'conservative' representation as Chief Justice.
I don't know enough about Roberts - I've never done a deep dig on him - to say more. However....
This is my actual takeaway from the Article you posted, considering a few things.
The article is critical of Roberts, and puts a negative spin on his actions in support of Trump.
The source is an MSM (i.e. propaganda, more or less) organization.
Why would a Fake News organ criticize and attack Roberts for actually supporting Trump and even assert (possibly accurately) that he's been pushing the SC in ways that actually support Trump?
We are in a 5G war.
That last point should never be forgotten because it frames almost EVERYTHING we come across in the information sphere. Combined with point 2. it means we should question: why publish this? What purpose? Who is the audience? What narrative is it spinning?
So, my takeaway from this article leans in this direction:
There is a strong possibility that Roberts is a captured chess piece. Originally operating under the control of BLACK (The Swamp Cabal), he has been captured by WHITE (Team DJT, the White Hats, MI) and is now being used as a piece for the good guys.
At the end of the day, DJT and Team know that this is all about winning the whole game. It's an all or nothing situation. Either they win, (the globalists, Marxists and satanic controllers) or we do, and they get destroyed and taken down.
And, utilizing game theory, there is a LOT of behind the scenes action all taking place. Has been since 2015, and continuing today. Part of the war is about capturing or neutralization various pieces. Obviously core evil players like Obama (an evil piece from the outset), have to be neutralized. They cannot be flipped or used without upsetting the whole board.
Other players, pawns, such as someone like Roberts, can be captured, and then used against their original masters, by maintaining their position on the board, but redirecting them under new (won) control.
If the SWAMP Cabal recognizes that a piece has been captured, what will they do? They will then turn an attack that piece, in order to try to damage it and its ability to function under the new controller. Whereas once they happily played Left vs Right but enjoyed where that piece was, once they realize it is captured, they'll want to destroy or take it down.
And that's where the narrative warfare kicks in.
Remember when DJT "thanked" Roberts a months or two ago, and how the Propaganda Media went nuts over this? Hmmmm....
The problem with knee-jerk reacting to headlines and then running with one's biases, regardless of facts or without actually investing in critical thinking, is that A) it perpetuates the influence of the propaganda machine to affect one's thinking, and B) prevents one from taking an appropriate stance that aligns with the team we actually support.
What do I mean? IF Roberts is a captured piece and IF he is now cooperating with the Good Guys, what should our attitude be towards him and towards the narratives around him?
A captured piece cooperating with the Good Guys doesn't mean the capture piece is or was 'good'. And for that reason, we need to STEP AWAY from just focusing on our judgment of people themselves, and focus MORE on how the war is being waged, why, and for what objectives.
We might detest Roberts (opinion), BUT if he is now being used by Trump Team, then we'd better get behind that agenda and work with POTUS, not against him. To me, that means not cooperating with the Cabal narrative attacks, but rather applying critical thinking to the game board.
It's not for us to judge and sentence Roberts. It's for God (spiritually) and for the Justice System (materially). And personally, I'm confident that Trump knows a whole lot more than me about any of the significant players on the board, so it's not that hard for me, personally, to try to take a more objective view towards a piece like Roberts.
I get that for some, this might not be easy. They feel the (perceived or real) damage from a bad actor Roberts makes it hard to be objective, like a general, who must consider the overall war rather than if the individual soldier is an as*hole or guilty or not. But I think that is the essence of what Q was trying to get all of us to do: to step back, understand the war, play OUR role in it without being manipulated by the system of manipulation that was put there to capture our whole populations.
I suspect that Roberts is a captured piece. It doesn't affect whether I like him or not, or whether I think he's a good guy or not. As stated, my opinion is that he has always been a swamp creature. But I'm far more concerned with whether Trump is using him now, or not. Because winning the war is more important than pursuing the emotional satisfaction of venting my disgust or antipathy on an internet forum OR wanting to see a scumbag be exposed or fry for his individual sins.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.
Well, isn't this not so nice? He has been a scoundrel in the mix for a long time. He was partial to Obama years ago and passed his Affordable Care Act, when he should have sent it back to congress to be passed as a tax and not as a penalty. Probably a huge part of the Cabal (or maybe a small part but a huge role in what his job description is.
So, are you saying you disapprove of all the pro-Trump maneuvers that Roberts did, as reported in the article?
Because that is what the article is talking about. The article is putting the spin that Roberts' pro-Trump actions were bad, because he "strong-armed" the overall court into pro-Trump decisions and opinions.
I certainly didn't read it that way. Why don't these reporters write in understandable English? If that is what they are saying, fine-but, like I said, I didn't read it at all like that. My thoughts on Roberts:
He is a terrible judge and shouldn't be anywhere near decisions involving the constitution-my simple opinion.
As far as him fighting for cases involving Trump, I wish he would stay away. His decisions are not good for conservatives, usually. I can't change his mind, but he doesn't seem to be like the person who was at the hearing for his appointment to the Supreme Court. He had a great memory and didn't need many, if any, notes.
Like I said his decision on the Affordable Care Act should have been sent back to congress to pass it as a tax, but he just changed the way it was written-Congress did not pass that tax. And I, personally, don't believe he should have done that. Justice Roberts can not pass a tax on Americans, but Congress can and didn't-they passed it as a penalty, then the Obama administration's lawyers (I think) went to the court and argued it as a penalty and as a tax. As you can see this one decision weighs heavily on my mind. But I do understand your point..
Seems like the spotlight has been clearly focused on Roberts and that light is getting more intense. Keep the pressure up, force him to step down, then put Matt Gaetz into his position.
Waiting for him to step down per Kim Clement's prophesy....
Kim Clements said this? 😃
He gets worse every year.
He's been to chomo island with epstein.
Yeah, years ago his name appears on the Epstein list. Why are not more 'influencers' ...or you know - the FBI/Pam Bondi - screaming about this? (Oh right....)
I saw one comment that kinda seemed like a deflection at the time "Oh that is just the John Roberts host from Fox news....but considering how high profile most of the names on the list were - I would more believe a Supreme Court justice over a nobody news host as the 'John Roberts' in question.
And basically all of his actions as justice point to deep state globohomo pedo sympathies since he is not interested in justice.
Did you read the article? Essentially, the article is describing Roberts stepping in to ensure that things go Trump's way.
The "meddling" spin is by an MSM outlet that is decidedly putting an anti-Trump, anti-Roberts spin on their report.
I'm not saying I'm necessarily a fan of Roberts, but leaping to conclusions and succumbing to bias confirmation are constant risks when dealing with information, especially when touted by MSM / Corporate media operations.
What is your point when judge roberts is the same head of the supreme court who was responsible for ALL 11 FISA judges who allowed illegal spying on Trump!!! See https://x.com/catturd2/status/1908136700112474151 More comments below in this thread
See my comment to you elsewhere in the thread.
Seems to me that Roberts is a captured piece.
I'll betcha he has been strong-arming Amy Coney Barrett. That's why she was looking all weird and guilty at the SOU.
Starting to feel like your legacy is circling in the toilet?
I noticed that too.
Me, three..
How much longer will we have to put up with this guy?
Chief Justice John Roberts strong-armed his fellow Supreme Court judges into allowing him the key role in cases involving Donald Trump, leaked memos reveal.
The conservative judge took the lead in March’s case on whether states could remove the former president from their ballots over his role in the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
Roberts demanded a unanimous decision from the bench according to memos leaked to the New York Times.
Did you guys read the article before you screamed at Roberts ？
The reading capabilities of this board is at an all time low.
That's what an elite research group and forum does, read headline then knee jerk spew a paragraph of opinions.
Actually the elite research team and forum were not accepting of the spin and not remotely knee jerking... they were comparing what they have seen and saying fuck that! BRAVO!! What they were on about played out YET AGAIN a whole day later https://greatawakening.win/p/19Awy25zka/breaking-the-supreme-court-just-/c/
I thought it was obvious so I left out the /s
I see that. The article is celebrating all of Roberts Pro-Trump achievements.
I despair, truly.
I read through the article. It's is very clearly an anti-Trump, anti-Roberts spin, describing all the actions Roberts did that ensured things went in Trump's favor.
But stoopid frogs (I hate to say, but what else can I say?) just read the headline, ignore that its from Fake News Media propaganda, and run with their biases.
I seriously question whether the top voted 4 or 5 comments in this thread have ANYTHING to do with the contents of the article itself.
Sadly, seems about right.
While I agree with your point to a degree... now argue for us who have low reading capabilities that Roberts is not a suspect of going to pedo island, was not an allies with odumma on horrific things like odumma care, has not let down the MAGA movement over and over... so yes the fake news adds color to this article trying to spin it that in fact Roberts is all in MAGA and your criticizing peoples ability to read and discern... When posting perhaps I should have expressed this but someone would poo poo anyway!!
Well, I guess I'm not immune to knee-jerk reactions, either (as per my reaction to the commentary), but ...
look at the top comments here:
"He gets worse every year." How is supporting the Trump Agenda 'getting worse'? Zero connect with the content of the article, wholesale swallowing of the MSM headline narrative.
"I'll betcha he has been strong-arming Amy Coney Barrett." Strong arming Coney Barret to... support the Trump situation? Comment shows no connection with the article. Is strong arming Coney Barret to support Trump's agenda bad?
"How much longer will we have to put up with this guy?" Again, how is this comment in any way connected to the actual contents of the article?
Seems to me that exactly EACH of these comments comes from a place where the author read "Roberts" + "Exposes meddling" and just went from there. If so, how is this NOT a) reading the headline, b) ignoring the relevance of the source, and c) running with one's bias?
Ironically, each and every one of these comments would fit perfectly in an anti-Trump uber leftist normie forum. They all chime in - ignorantly or not - with the article's core premise (paraphrase):
Roberts is an as*hole because he's been pushing the SC in ways that actually support Trump instead of destroying him.
In a previous comment, I stated "I'm not saying I'm necessarily a fan of Roberts", indicating that I'm not asserting Roberts is our Darling. BUT I'd like to offer a devil's avocado here:
Being suspect is NOT an indictment or proof. Is it actually critical thinking to accept someone being suspect as rock solid proof (of whatever), and to then go from there?
To me, critical thinking is acknowledging one's suspicions, even opinions or conclusions, but also recognizing the limitations on knowing. Indicting pretty much anyone on the basis of opinion is what belongs in 1979 France, and at the Democrat (or Republican, for that matter) Party convention (where facts don't matter, facts are selected to achieve an outcome, and where neither actual law and order, or accountability, rule).
So there's that.
In my opinion, far too many people seem to do this, although I'm not saying anyone who is critical of Roberts is necessarily doing that. To be frank, I'm not as familiar with all the accusations against Roberts: specifically the connections with the Obama agenda (such as dumma care), but that's not really my point. It's that leap from "My opinion view" >>>>>>> To "This is a fact, and I'll act, make decisions as if it is a fact" that I think is very problematic for a movement that aspires to find and uphold the truth.
That's to origin of my comment. NOT that Roberts is some wonderful guy. Or even a good guy. It's "Jeepers, why do so many of us persist in letting random sources like MSM fake news manipulate us into certain types of behavior (accusation, emotional reactions, ignoring solid critical thinking, etc)?"
But now let's look at Roberts.
Here's my very limited opinion (based on limited knowledge around Roberts). It's just an opinion, and to some extent, would probably a working hypothesis when approaching anything factual about Roberts.
Roberts is almost certainly part of the Swamp system. He is a part of the Uniparty matrix, where so-called (fake) 'conservatives' are pitted against so-called (fake) 'liberals'. (I say fake liberals, because real liberalism is nothing like the Neo-Marxist ideologues currently labelled as 'liberals'.) He is/was very likely controlled to some extent, potentially through blackmail, BUT I also think its important that many people who start out with good intentions are blackmailed and taken down by the Satanic System. I.e. they become compromised, but still, on some level, may be trying to simply navigate and not be destroyed by the sh*t they got themselves into.
So, I think that there is some potential for Roberts to be someone who, though compromised, may simply be trying to save his own skin, and for that reason, even if he doesn't particularly agree with the Marxist agenda, for example, has played along and performed as expected by the Swamp system: to be the 'conservative' representation as Chief Justice.
I don't know enough about Roberts - I've never done a deep dig on him - to say more. However....
This is my actual takeaway from the Article you posted, considering a few things.
The article is critical of Roberts, and puts a negative spin on his actions in support of Trump.
The source is an MSM (i.e. propaganda, more or less) organization.
Why would a Fake News organ criticize and attack Roberts for actually supporting Trump and even assert (possibly accurately) that he's been pushing the SC in ways that actually support Trump?
That last point should never be forgotten because it frames almost EVERYTHING we come across in the information sphere. Combined with point 2. it means we should question: why publish this? What purpose? Who is the audience? What narrative is it spinning?
So, my takeaway from this article leans in this direction:
There is a strong possibility that Roberts is a captured chess piece. Originally operating under the control of BLACK (The Swamp Cabal), he has been captured by WHITE (Team DJT, the White Hats, MI) and is now being used as a piece for the good guys.
At the end of the day, DJT and Team know that this is all about winning the whole game. It's an all or nothing situation. Either they win, (the globalists, Marxists and satanic controllers) or we do, and they get destroyed and taken down.
And, utilizing game theory, there is a LOT of behind the scenes action all taking place. Has been since 2015, and continuing today. Part of the war is about capturing or neutralization various pieces. Obviously core evil players like Obama (an evil piece from the outset), have to be neutralized. They cannot be flipped or used without upsetting the whole board.
Other players, pawns, such as someone like Roberts, can be captured, and then used against their original masters, by maintaining their position on the board, but redirecting them under new (won) control.
If the SWAMP Cabal recognizes that a piece has been captured, what will they do? They will then turn an attack that piece, in order to try to damage it and its ability to function under the new controller. Whereas once they happily played Left vs Right but enjoyed where that piece was, once they realize it is captured, they'll want to destroy or take it down.
And that's where the narrative warfare kicks in.
Remember when DJT "thanked" Roberts a months or two ago, and how the Propaganda Media went nuts over this? Hmmmm....
The problem with knee-jerk reacting to headlines and then running with one's biases, regardless of facts or without actually investing in critical thinking, is that A) it perpetuates the influence of the propaganda machine to affect one's thinking, and B) prevents one from taking an appropriate stance that aligns with the team we actually support.
What do I mean? IF Roberts is a captured piece and IF he is now cooperating with the Good Guys, what should our attitude be towards him and towards the narratives around him?
A captured piece cooperating with the Good Guys doesn't mean the capture piece is or was 'good'. And for that reason, we need to STEP AWAY from just focusing on our judgment of people themselves, and focus MORE on how the war is being waged, why, and for what objectives.
We might detest Roberts (opinion), BUT if he is now being used by Trump Team, then we'd better get behind that agenda and work with POTUS, not against him. To me, that means not cooperating with the Cabal narrative attacks, but rather applying critical thinking to the game board.
It's not for us to judge and sentence Roberts. It's for God (spiritually) and for the Justice System (materially). And personally, I'm confident that Trump knows a whole lot more than me about any of the significant players on the board, so it's not that hard for me, personally, to try to take a more objective view towards a piece like Roberts.
I get that for some, this might not be easy. They feel the (perceived or real) damage from a bad actor Roberts makes it hard to be objective, like a general, who must consider the overall war rather than if the individual soldier is an as*hole or guilty or not. But I think that is the essence of what Q was trying to get all of us to do: to step back, understand the war, play OUR role in it without being manipulated by the system of manipulation that was put there to capture our whole populations.
I suspect that Roberts is a captured piece. It doesn't affect whether I like him or not, or whether I think he's a good guy or not. As stated, my opinion is that he has always been a swamp creature. But I'm far more concerned with whether Trump is using him now, or not. Because winning the war is more important than pursuing the emotional satisfaction of venting my disgust or antipathy on an internet forum OR wanting to see a scumbag be exposed or fry for his individual sins.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.
Anyway, $0.02
Be well, fren. And thanks for the reply.
Well, isn't this not so nice? He has been a scoundrel in the mix for a long time. He was partial to Obama years ago and passed his Affordable Care Act, when he should have sent it back to congress to be passed as a tax and not as a penalty. Probably a huge part of the Cabal (or maybe a small part but a huge role in what his job description is.
So, are you saying you disapprove of all the pro-Trump maneuvers that Roberts did, as reported in the article?
Because that is what the article is talking about. The article is putting the spin that Roberts' pro-Trump actions were bad, because he "strong-armed" the overall court into pro-Trump decisions and opinions.
You disapprove?
I certainly didn't read it that way. Why don't these reporters write in understandable English? If that is what they are saying, fine-but, like I said, I didn't read it at all like that. My thoughts on Roberts:
He is a terrible judge and shouldn't be anywhere near decisions involving the constitution-my simple opinion. As far as him fighting for cases involving Trump, I wish he would stay away. His decisions are not good for conservatives, usually. I can't change his mind, but he doesn't seem to be like the person who was at the hearing for his appointment to the Supreme Court. He had a great memory and didn't need many, if any, notes. Like I said his decision on the Affordable Care Act should have been sent back to congress to pass it as a tax, but he just changed the way it was written-Congress did not pass that tax. And I, personally, don't believe he should have done that. Justice Roberts can not pass a tax on Americans, but Congress can and didn't-they passed it as a penalty, then the Obama administration's lawyers (I think) went to the court and argued it as a penalty and as a tax. As you can see this one decision weighs heavily on my mind. But I do understand your point..
Thanks u/proforma1.
Please take a read through my comment to the OP here. I'd be curious to hear what you think...
https://greatawakening.win/p/19Awxyh4q5/x/c/4eRTx5ermb9
Oh look, it's the Maltese Monkey!
Well, Roberts DID spend a week at Norm Eisen's home as they worked to overthrow the judicial system in Europe
Norm Eisen met Barack Obama while they were at Harvard.....
He should kill himself before resigning. Work it out.
"Here now, by my own hand, and executing myself for crimes unspeakable, I submit my resignation." 8>)
Outstanding. I'll email him.
John Robert's is a member in good standing of the Knights of Malta and the adoption of his children from Ireland is another whole story.
He steps down and Habba gets in as first Female Chief Justice. Wowsers!
For what it's worth, many prophets say it will be Clarence Thomas.
Seems like the spotlight has been clearly focused on Roberts and that light is getting more intense. Keep the pressure up, force him to step down, then put Matt Gaetz into his position.
What do they have on you, John?
I wonder if they will be able to find the leaker this time....
Yeah Kim Clement said supreme Court two will step down out of shame