Yeah they were probably planning on begging for US money after.
Now...probably China, and it will be used to put in a military or shipping base or some shit.
True. But with one voice, the MSM will scream that all Evil White People are responsible, and that we must send them all our money at once. (Insert picture of starving Black child here).
the leadership doesn't care. they actual want to create famine conditions so that they can elicit international sympathy, which will lead to IMF loans and food donations that they can skim off a fat percentage of for their Swiss bank accounts.
Then the instigators will come in and take over. They will get the land at distressed prices, and be hailed as heroes because they come in to restore the farms, after they instigated the destruction. .
Problems like homelessness, racism, poverty, natural disasters, and longstanding simmering hate/warfare.
All of these problems mean one thing: millions and billions in aid money pouring in for the "leaders" in places like California, Chicago, Detroit, Haiti, Gaza, African nations, and many more.
All that money means the grifters, thieves, looters, race-baiters and hate-mongers instantly jump in to grab that money and do everything they can to keep that money flowing. And how do you keep the money flowing? By making damn sure those problems NEVER go away.
These people build their entire careers on this. You can SEE them getting richer and richer, and buying more mansions and luxury cars, while their people get poorer and the problems that money was supposed to solve only get worse and worse and worse.
These are people like Newscum, Pelosi, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, every Detroit and Chicago mayor, the Clinton Foundation, warlords in Sudan and Somalia, Yassir Arafat, the Hamas thugs, and anybody else in charge of any place with big problems that somehow never get better no matter how much money and aid pours in.
It never gets better because if it does, the money stops. So there is NO incentive to solve anything. So they don't.
This can be hard for normal human beings to understand. We automatically assume that leaders care about their nation and their people, and want to solve these awful problems that cause so much misery.
But we, as normal people, have got to understand that sociopaths only see misery as an opportunity to grab huge bags of cash for themselves. They tell you want to hear, but never once DO anything that would actually solve anything because they're not about to see all that free money dry up.
Unless and until we start recognizing this pattern, it will go on forever.
WE do not need to do shit. I'm tired of the global intervention. Bring the whites & white farmers over here. Give them citizenship. Grant them government land to farm. Provide a stipend for a few years until they are up on their feet. Let the naggers starve to death. The racist blacks and murderers of white farmers and their white families can go fucking die.
The original Dutch settlers arrived in that part of Africa, it was barely populated, they turned a barren scrubland into a country.
That was nearly 400 years ago.
Most of the current black inhabitants are immigrants from surrounding areas who travelled there for work and a better life.
The South African White founders were forced to practice apartheid to keep the uneducated and excessively breeding black population in order. Just look back at some history of how they lived and behaved in their โtownshipsโ, like animals.
Degenerate international commies destroyed the nation, handing over a virtual utopia to the local Stone Age parasites.
It took them just over 20 years to turn a once great nation into turd world.
There is a lesson there, for those honest enough to look beyond the propaganda.
Um, I'd like some of that government land you're being so free with.
To be clear, I'm not looking for a handout, I'm objecting to giving handouts to others.
Because surely I'm due nearly as much a handout as they are.
I'm a citizen with an Honorable Discharge.
I've been screwed over by corporate American for 40+ years
I've been screwed over by the Federal government for my entire life
I've been screwed over by my state and local government where ever I've lived.
We brought them to the land of opportunity (a descriptor that may soon be accurate once again) out of a place they were likely to get murdered (and worse) living in. Grant them citizenship? Ok, I can go with that.
But if FedGov is handing out farmland, I want my cut before some johnny-come-latelies.
I'm operating purely from memory here (which is always a dicey proposition), but didn't Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) do pretty much the same thing a few decades ago and "redistribute" all the farms from white farmers to black farmers? ...and as a result, Rhodesia soon found themselves starving due to poor production and an incoherent distribution system?
Purkiss, correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be the way I recall it happening there.
Exactly...except I would say no production and no distribution system. Farms were left to ruin and overgrowth. The white farmers emigrated, many to Zambia. Mugabe is now dead, thank God, but the Zimbabweans still struggle to have any economy.
Not a true generality. Plenty of black farmers in Zambia. But poor and limited by lack of machinery and irrigation. In Zimbabwe, the whites managed the farms and the blacks were undoubtedly skilled labor, but if you unplug the management and the crew is left to plan, budget, etc. without training, it does not succeed. Similarly with maintenance of large utilities. Labor is there to do the work. Management is there to determine how to do the work, when to do the work, how to repair the machinery, how to coordinate the work, how to pay for the work, and what work to do. In short, Mugabe was a vicious idiot, not to realize this.
Aliko Dangote in NIgeria created an immense business in cement and concrete, as one example. It is very instructive to simply take a photo tour of all the African capital cities (type a name, search, and pick "images"). Some of them are surprisingly modern, even more so than ours. No whites required. Try Lagos, Nigeria, for example.
I'm married to a Zambian and have thereby inherited an extensive family! My wife grew up on a small farm. One of my stepsons comes from a farming family in Eastern Province. I've been there on a 10-day visit (medical and financial problems have kept me home since) but I get lots of intel from my wife who is over there currently. Plenty of poverty and backwardness, but the normal distribution function prevails and there are still people who are sharp and decent.
Keep Africa in mind. Every place has its problems---including the United States. I can recommend Zambia as a safe place to visit. Absolutely no racial tensions, with whites and blacks busy with their lives. In that respect, much more at ease than life here in America. Some hardship, but not usually found in decent hotels. Great wildlife tours. Victoria Falls (stupendous). The dollar goes far. Everyone speaks English, with more or less accent. More westerners have moved in over the past few years, so the general standard of quality in products and services has risen.
And, for those who are interested, it may be the home of the most beautiful women in the world (but I am biased by exposure).
You are correct, but the redistribution didn't happen until after all the farm equipment was 'redistributed' to the ruling party's cronies, who promptly sold it off.
A very good movie to watch is โEmpire of Dustโ, it tells you all you need to know about our future engineers and scientists arriving by the boatload daily.
I've personally seen farmland all over the country (US) and without a doubt some of the most beautiful farmland is just north of San Francisco โ Sacramento.
Try to take a visit to Sonoma and Napa Valley some day.
I HAVE TO BELIEVE that the "Great Awakening" is world wide and though America is going 1st, the rest will follow soon after. The exposure of the corrupt banking system will EXPOSE so many criminals world wide that existing political structures will be forced to collapse. AS I said to an American friend recently, if not, then me and my extended family are coming to live on your property! At this moment SA, AU, Canada, England and the EU look doomed, BUT as Q has said SOMETIMES you have to show the people.
He's a fucking billionaire through the shares he was given in the mines way back.....
He's a pig.
The quote attributed to Cyril Ramaphosa about "whites being frogs in boiling water" originates from the 2017 memoirs of Dr. Mario Oriani-Ambrosini, a South African MP and constitutional lawyer who died in 2014. In his book, The Prince and I: A South African Institutional Odyssey, Oriani-Ambrosini claims that during the early 1990s constitutional negotiations, Ramaphosa described the African National Congress (ANC)'s strategy for addressing white economic and political power as follows:
"In his brutal honesty, Ramaphosa told me of the ANCโs 25-year strategy to deal with the whites: it would be like boiling a frog alive, which is done by raising the temperature very slowly. Being cold-blooded, the frog does not notice the slow temperature increase, but if the temperature is raised suddenly, the frog will jump out of the water. He meant that the black majority would pass laws transferring wealth, land, and economic power from white to black slowly and incrementally, until the whites lost all they had gained in South Africa, but without taking too much from them at any given time to cause them to rebel or fight."
This alleged statement suggests a gradual approach to redistributing resources and power to avoid provoking a strong backlash. However, there is no direct evidence, such as recordings or public speeches, where Ramaphosa explicitly used this phrase. The claim relies solely on Oriani-Ambrosiniโs account, published years after his death, and has been debated for its authenticity. For instance, some X posts note skepticism, with one user stating thereโs "no evidence that Ramaphosa ever said the exact phrase 'boil whites like frogs,'" interpreting it as a metaphor for gradual change rather than a direct quote.
Ramaphosa has not publicly confirmed or denied the statement. In 2017, AfriForum, a civil rights organization, wrote an open letter to then-Deputy President Ramaphosa, seeking clarification on the quote, but no definitive response is documented. Critics argue the metaphor aligns with the ANCโs broader National Democratic Revolution strategy, which involves incremental socioeconomic transformation, while others question whether Ramaphosaโs pragmatism as a negotiator and later president would align with such a provocative stance.
They will be at the door steps of progressives retards begging for food and supplies. and the progressives will try and find a way to rob the American taxpayer again.
Can someone roll back history?? I would love to see a reasonably short discussion of what Africa (South Africa especially) would look like now!, with no European settlement or influence.
Consider the Arab slave traders, with no European slave trade.
Consider the Boers, and no Brit Boer Wars. *** Would SA have been better with the Boers than the Brits? Why did the Brits wage war against other Europeans for SA?? Then picture no Boers either.
Consider no exploration, no mines, no manufacturing, no jobs to lure other Africans to SA, no conventional agriculture.
Would the original blacks who resided in South Africa be better or worse off? and why? Would they want to go back to those conditions? why or why not?
Who invented necklacing [burning tires around someone's neck] and why?
What is the philosophy, the culture, the tradition that leads African black nation states into failure? Global communist influences?? Merely corruption of the black Africans in power? What is the influence that they subject their own people to poverty and starvation?
Rhodesia, Haiti are also exemplars.
I am asking seriously. The state of the African states is abysmal, despite billions of dollars of investment to make the people's lives better.
Part of the "colonization" was the "white man's burden." Many Europeans suffered and died to bring progress to Africa. Not all for gain, much for charity.
If they follow the pattern of other African countries that got rid of their white farmers, they will starve.
And when they starve, they will blame white people. The cycle never ends
Who gives a shit who they complain about. We don't have to care what they think.
That's right. USAID is toast. Where will they get their victim allowance from?
Yeah they were probably planning on begging for US money after. Now...probably China, and it will be used to put in a military or shipping base or some shit.
The EU!
Oh, wait...
True. But with one voice, the MSM will scream that all Evil White People are responsible, and that we must send them all our money at once. (Insert picture of starving Black child here).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BrMmNWb2U
the leadership doesn't care. they actual want to create famine conditions so that they can elicit international sympathy, which will lead to IMF loans and food donations that they can skim off a fat percentage of for their Swiss bank accounts.
Indeed. USA for Africa did absolutely nothing.
0.0
Then the instigators will come in and take over. They will get the land at distressed prices, and be hailed as heroes because they come in to restore the farms, after they instigated the destruction. .
Only if it's handled like Rhodesia was the gooberment goons will have already sold off all the farm equipment to line their own pockets first.
Sociopathic leaders LOVE problems.
Problems like homelessness, racism, poverty, natural disasters, and longstanding simmering hate/warfare.
All of these problems mean one thing: millions and billions in aid money pouring in for the "leaders" in places like California, Chicago, Detroit, Haiti, Gaza, African nations, and many more.
All that money means the grifters, thieves, looters, race-baiters and hate-mongers instantly jump in to grab that money and do everything they can to keep that money flowing. And how do you keep the money flowing? By making damn sure those problems NEVER go away.
These people build their entire careers on this. You can SEE them getting richer and richer, and buying more mansions and luxury cars, while their people get poorer and the problems that money was supposed to solve only get worse and worse and worse.
These are people like Newscum, Pelosi, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, every Detroit and Chicago mayor, the Clinton Foundation, warlords in Sudan and Somalia, Yassir Arafat, the Hamas thugs, and anybody else in charge of any place with big problems that somehow never get better no matter how much money and aid pours in.
It never gets better because if it does, the money stops. So there is NO incentive to solve anything. So they don't.
This can be hard for normal human beings to understand. We automatically assume that leaders care about their nation and their people, and want to solve these awful problems that cause so much misery.
But we, as normal people, have got to understand that sociopaths only see misery as an opportunity to grab huge bags of cash for themselves. They tell you want to hear, but never once DO anything that would actually solve anything because they're not about to see all that free money dry up.
Unless and until we start recognizing this pattern, it will go on forever.
It's insane....
95.3% of their corn
98.7 % of their wheat
97.6 % of their cotton
97.2 % of their citrus
99% of their potatoes
91.4% of their tomatoes
96.9% of their soybean
95.8% of their poultry
66% of their cattle
89% of their wool
Here is an uplifting Interview. America needs to rescue South Africa, before the Country is completely destroyed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2w-I_IdTa8
WE do not need to do shit. I'm tired of the global intervention. Bring the whites & white farmers over here. Give them citizenship. Grant them government land to farm. Provide a stipend for a few years until they are up on their feet. Let the naggers starve to death. The racist blacks and murderers of white farmers and their white families can go fucking die.
The original Dutch settlers arrived in that part of Africa, it was barely populated, they turned a barren scrubland into a country.
That was nearly 400 years ago.
Most of the current black inhabitants are immigrants from surrounding areas who travelled there for work and a better life.
The South African White founders were forced to practice apartheid to keep the uneducated and excessively breeding black population in order. Just look back at some history of how they lived and behaved in their โtownshipsโ, like animals.
Degenerate international commies destroyed the nation, handing over a virtual utopia to the local Stone Age parasites.
It took them just over 20 years to turn a once great nation into turd world.
There is a lesson there, for those honest enough to look beyond the propaganda.
Sorry to hear that. I didn't know that about South Africa. They are a literal violent destructive parasite crime wave wherever they are.
Um, I'd like some of that government land you're being so free with.
To be clear, I'm not looking for a handout, I'm objecting to giving handouts to others.
Because surely I'm due nearly as much a handout as they are.
I'm a citizen with an Honorable Discharge. I've been screwed over by corporate American for 40+ years I've been screwed over by the Federal government for my entire life I've been screwed over by my state and local government where ever I've lived.
We brought them to the land of opportunity (a descriptor that may soon be accurate once again) out of a place they were likely to get murdered (and worse) living in. Grant them citizenship? Ok, I can go with that.
But if FedGov is handing out farmland, I want my cut before some johnny-come-latelies.
The us .gov is the largest landowner and trump has talked about selling land. I could see it being given to farmers
I'm operating purely from memory here (which is always a dicey proposition), but didn't Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) do pretty much the same thing a few decades ago and "redistribute" all the farms from white farmers to black farmers? ...and as a result, Rhodesia soon found themselves starving due to poor production and an incoherent distribution system?
Purkiss, correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be the way I recall it happening there.
๐ฏ spot on....
Exactly...except I would say no production and no distribution system. Farms were left to ruin and overgrowth. The white farmers emigrated, many to Zambia. Mugabe is now dead, thank God, but the Zimbabweans still struggle to have any economy.
Which to me raises the question, are native Africans incapable of managing large scale farms? ....or for that matter, any large business?
Not a true generality. Plenty of black farmers in Zambia. But poor and limited by lack of machinery and irrigation. In Zimbabwe, the whites managed the farms and the blacks were undoubtedly skilled labor, but if you unplug the management and the crew is left to plan, budget, etc. without training, it does not succeed. Similarly with maintenance of large utilities. Labor is there to do the work. Management is there to determine how to do the work, when to do the work, how to repair the machinery, how to coordinate the work, how to pay for the work, and what work to do. In short, Mugabe was a vicious idiot, not to realize this.
Aliko Dangote in NIgeria created an immense business in cement and concrete, as one example. It is very instructive to simply take a photo tour of all the African capital cities (type a name, search, and pick "images"). Some of them are surprisingly modern, even more so than ours. No whites required. Try Lagos, Nigeria, for example.
I'll take your word for it, as I've never been to Africa and have no plans to go there. Interesting answer though.
I'm married to a Zambian and have thereby inherited an extensive family! My wife grew up on a small farm. One of my stepsons comes from a farming family in Eastern Province. I've been there on a 10-day visit (medical and financial problems have kept me home since) but I get lots of intel from my wife who is over there currently. Plenty of poverty and backwardness, but the normal distribution function prevails and there are still people who are sharp and decent.
Keep Africa in mind. Every place has its problems---including the United States. I can recommend Zambia as a safe place to visit. Absolutely no racial tensions, with whites and blacks busy with their lives. In that respect, much more at ease than life here in America. Some hardship, but not usually found in decent hotels. Great wildlife tours. Victoria Falls (stupendous). The dollar goes far. Everyone speaks English, with more or less accent. More westerners have moved in over the past few years, so the general standard of quality in products and services has risen.
And, for those who are interested, it may be the home of the most beautiful women in the world (but I am biased by exposure).
๐ I'm sure you're right, however my life is here now, in America, I've done all the foreign travel I wanted to last a lifetime.
We all have our quotas. No harm done. Plenty to see here. Good luck. If you can make it out west to see Crater Lake, that would be memorable.
You are correct, but the redistribution didn't happen until after all the farm equipment was 'redistributed' to the ruling party's cronies, who promptly sold it off.
A very good movie to watch is โEmpire of Dustโ, it tells you all you need to know about our future engineers and scientists arriving by the boatload daily.
I assume blacks there commit over 97% of the violent crimes.
Come stay with (US) purk, at least till this evil gets sorted
๐๐๐๐ป
It's too bad California is run by communists.
I've personally seen farmland all over the country (US) and without a doubt some of the most beautiful farmland is just north of San Francisco โ Sacramento.
Try to take a visit to Sonoma and Napa Valley some day.
well, they're choosing to be like the rest of Africa - fuck 'em, you get what you ask for. Let these farmers come here and prosper.
I HAVE TO BELIEVE that the "Great Awakening" is world wide and though America is going 1st, the rest will follow soon after. The exposure of the corrupt banking system will EXPOSE so many criminals world wide that existing political structures will be forced to collapse. AS I said to an American friend recently, if not, then me and my extended family are coming to live on your property! At this moment SA, AU, Canada, England and the EU look doomed, BUT as Q has said SOMETIMES you have to show the people.
There's going to be some mighty BIG BLOATED STOMACHS ON THE HORIZON & the hunger pains will NOT BE GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON!!!!!!!!
These idiots are getting what they asked for!!!!!! (idiots who are doing the bidding of the government)....
Bob Gheldof is praying for this. Probably planning the next live aid as we speak.
Wonder if it's because the S. Africa president is a snake, not a man. His job is to trigger a famine.
He's a fucking billionaire through the shares he was given in the mines way back..... He's a pig.
The quote attributed to Cyril Ramaphosa about "whites being frogs in boiling water" originates from the 2017 memoirs of Dr. Mario Oriani-Ambrosini, a South African MP and constitutional lawyer who died in 2014. In his book, The Prince and I: A South African Institutional Odyssey, Oriani-Ambrosini claims that during the early 1990s constitutional negotiations, Ramaphosa described the African National Congress (ANC)'s strategy for addressing white economic and political power as follows:
"In his brutal honesty, Ramaphosa told me of the ANCโs 25-year strategy to deal with the whites: it would be like boiling a frog alive, which is done by raising the temperature very slowly. Being cold-blooded, the frog does not notice the slow temperature increase, but if the temperature is raised suddenly, the frog will jump out of the water. He meant that the black majority would pass laws transferring wealth, land, and economic power from white to black slowly and incrementally, until the whites lost all they had gained in South Africa, but without taking too much from them at any given time to cause them to rebel or fight."
This alleged statement suggests a gradual approach to redistributing resources and power to avoid provoking a strong backlash. However, there is no direct evidence, such as recordings or public speeches, where Ramaphosa explicitly used this phrase. The claim relies solely on Oriani-Ambrosiniโs account, published years after his death, and has been debated for its authenticity. For instance, some X posts note skepticism, with one user stating thereโs "no evidence that Ramaphosa ever said the exact phrase 'boil whites like frogs,'" interpreting it as a metaphor for gradual change rather than a direct quote.
Ramaphosa has not publicly confirmed or denied the statement. In 2017, AfriForum, a civil rights organization, wrote an open letter to then-Deputy President Ramaphosa, seeking clarification on the quote, but no definitive response is documented. Critics argue the metaphor aligns with the ANCโs broader National Democratic Revolution strategy, which involves incremental socioeconomic transformation, while others question whether Ramaphosaโs pragmatism as a negotiator and later president would align with such a provocative stance.
What would be your opinion of a coordinated Great Strike of all whites, after the manner of "Atlas Shrugged"? SA seems uniquely vulnerable.
Now they can run farms here to benefit the USA even more!
SA donโt become like Zimbabwean.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5wwp5eelxo
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5wwp5eelxo
Who makes the spears?
Let 'em starve. Then resettle, reallocate land, and put things in order again.
Purkiss80, nice to see you back. We were worried.
Bring the farmers, let it fall. Let them learn the hard way.
They will be at the door steps of progressives retards begging for food and supplies. and the progressives will try and find a way to rob the American taxpayer again.
but with USAID cut where will the money come from?
they'll be pulling money out of their socialized medicine programs... which they're already doing to fund Ukraine.
the swamp is world wide and is being drained.
and launder 90% of the money back to themselves
Can someone roll back history?? I would love to see a reasonably short discussion of what Africa (South Africa especially) would look like now!, with no European settlement or influence.
Consider the Arab slave traders, with no European slave trade.
Consider the Boers, and no Brit Boer Wars. *** Would SA have been better with the Boers than the Brits? Why did the Brits wage war against other Europeans for SA?? Then picture no Boers either.
Consider no exploration, no mines, no manufacturing, no jobs to lure other Africans to SA, no conventional agriculture.
Would the original blacks who resided in South Africa be better or worse off? and why? Would they want to go back to those conditions? why or why not?
Who invented necklacing [burning tires around someone's neck] and why?
What is the philosophy, the culture, the tradition that leads African black nation states into failure? Global communist influences?? Merely corruption of the black Africans in power? What is the influence that they subject their own people to poverty and starvation?
Rhodesia, Haiti are also exemplars.
I am asking seriously. The state of the African states is abysmal, despite billions of dollars of investment to make the people's lives better.
Part of the "colonization" was the "white man's burden." Many Europeans suffered and died to bring progress to Africa. Not all for gain, much for charity.
The non-whites produce babies and shit so there